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waves in consciousness, pt. 2

Note: this is the second of two parts on waves in consciousness. Go to waves in consciousness, pt. 1.

Paulís note: to date Elias has offered information about the following waves in consciousness:

  • fear of change/subjective bleed-through (ca. July 06, 1997)
  • acceptance (accepting self) (ca. August 03, 1997)
  • illness (cold/flu ďseasonĒ) (annual)
  • duplicity (ca. May 30, 1998)
  • relationships (ca. July 25, 1998)
  • sexuality and orientation (ca. January 17, 1999)
  • duplicity (a reprise, ca. January 27, 1999, whoohoo!)
  • emotion (ca. June 08, 2002)
  • truth (ca. June 07, 2003)
  • perception (ca. October 21, 2006)

ELIAS: ďWelcome! This afternoon we shall be discussing tsunamis in their many forms, and we shall be participating together in this discussion Ė not lecture Ė concerning this subject matter and how you perceive it and what you generate within your own focuses in your own individual tsunamis that also contribute to mass events.

Therefore, what are your realities in association with your own energies, and what do you notice that you have been generating that has created the participation in the mass event?

DEBI: Judgment Ė lots and lots of judgment, wanting to be right and being really pissed off because everybody doesnít agree with me.

DARYL: And wanting to fix people.

ELIAS: Ah, for of course they are wrong and of course they are broken.

You are aware that you create your reality Ė in theory or in concept. You have been privy to much of the information that I have expressed. You understand intellectually the concepts, but are you actually aware of what type of energy you are projecting? Are you actually aware that your individual self generates a contribution to all of consciousness in every action that you do, in every expression of energy?

You are NOT singular. You think you are singular, but you are not. You generate one individual body form manifestation, but you are not disconnected from all of your universe and all of consciousness, and you are participating with each other. There is an exchange of energy which occurs continuously with you all. Whether you are objectively aware of that energy exchange or not, the reality is that it is continuously occurring.

Whether you physically are participating in a location in which a mass event occurs or not is not to say that you are not participating, and whether you are aware of the mass event occurring objectively is not to say that you are not participating.

Your energy is being projected continuously. The reason that I have expressed so very many times within this previous year, in association with this wave addressing to truths, that it is significant to be aware of what type of energy you are projecting is that that energy ripples outward throughout consciousness and throughout your world.

Let me remind you once again, you cannot generate a mass event without individuals. The individual is the most significant element of the mass, and what creates a mass event is many individuals projecting similar energies and moving in similar directions. Therefore, what do you view within your realities that you have been creating in your waves Ė in your large waves?

This mass event was no accident. The manner in which it was presented was quite precise and purposeful. It was generated in terms of tremendous power of energy erupting to generate an enormous wave Ė or many enormous waves. The choice of the waves was quite precise, for this is what you are experiencing, this wave addressing to truths. Although you may intellectually express to yourselves that you understand the strength of the intensity of this particular wave, now look to your physical wave and view the strength and the power of that wave. That wave is dwarfed in association with this wave that you are engaging and have been engaging for some time framework Ė and it is growing. (Low uncomfortable laughter and murmurs)

STELLA: Is there a place to hide? (Laughter)

ELIAS: Ah! Now; that generated an attention, did it not!

This wave is not dissipating; it is increasing. Those waves that you viewed of water shall appear to you to be ripples in association with this wave, which is affecting of the entirety of your world, and you are ALL participating. Now how shall you participate is the question. How are you generating energy and what type of energy are you generating? Are you generating energy that is contributing to that type of experience, or are you moving into balance?

I may express that most of you are not balancing. Most of you are experiencing not necessarily conflict, for many of you are not experiencing conflict, but confusion and struggle.

PAMELA: Overwhelm.

ELIAS: And difficulty.

In this, you are presenting yourselves with the experiences of your truths. How are you addressing to them and how are you responding to them? And in that, what type of energy are you expressing? What occurred in your physical mass event was not merely generated by the energy of the individuals that were physically involved.

CAROL: It felt to me like it was a reflection of the energy from Iraq, in a situation that just couldnít take anymore and then it went over to...

ELIAS: No. I shall express to you, this wave was quite purposeful. All of the individuals that physically participated in that event at the moment of their death were aware of what they were choosing. ALL of the individuals in that mass event were also aware of each other. ALL of the individuals that disengaged in that mass event were also aware of the purpose of its creation and what it was designed to express. This is unusual.

Mass events occur and many individuals participate, and at the moment of their disengagement or their death they are aware of their choice to be disengaging, but they may not be objectively aware of what they are participating in. These individuals incorporated an awareness and continue to incorporate an awareness of what they chose and why they chose it and what they were participating in.

I have been expressing for an extended time framework that there is a tremendous energy of polarization that has been occurring and that has been building also and expanding and intensifying. In addition to the polarization, there has been a tremendous expression and energy of opposition that has been being generated throughout your world.

In this, these individuals chose to be expressing an energy together as a collective to effect your physical environment to generate this imagery of waves, and chose to engage the action that they did in death to send a message to all of the rest of you to remember appreciation and cooperation, and to generate a reason to create that action or to instigate that action of cooperation rather than opposition, of appreciation rather than polarization, to remind you of what you value.

I am aware, as you are aware, that you value many different expressions, but one element within your physical reality that you value quite highly is that which you define as life. Regardless of your differences, regardless of your conflicts, regardless of your philosophies, you all share the commonality of valuing life. And to remove such an enormous expression of life from your reality in one wave has generated a significant impact. You are paying attention and your world is paying attention, not merely individuals that engage conversations with myself and congregate within this forum and are privy to this information. (Humorously) Which of course is the highest information (laughter), for of course I am the highest entity. You may all feel free to worship! For of course, I am God! (Laughter)

But in this, you all as YOUR highest entities, yourselves, value your manifestations and you do value each other. Even if you do not like each other, you value each other, for you value what you signify, and you signify life.

STEPHEN: Elias, when this event happened I felt a lot of conflict because I knew the world would pay a lot of attention to it and a lot of money to it, but they donít pay a lot of attention to 800,000 people dying in Rwanda or some other part of the world. I felt that it was unfair that they pay attention to this and they donít pay attention to something else.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, this is a comparison, first of all. Comparison is an automatic discounting and judgment. Also, that may be one of your truths that you are experiencing, fairness Ė what is fair and what is not.

This is the point of this mass event, to be emphasizing that you are engaging this wave addressing to truths, which are merely your beliefs which have been set into absolutes; but to you they are true, but they are not necessarily true to another individual. That is not to say that your truth is right or wrong or that another individualís truth is right or wrong; it is right to you. But it is not wrong that another individual or many other individuals express a difference, and this is the point.

What has generated such tremendous polarization in conjunction with this wave addressing to truths? Difference. This is what generates the polarization.

The reason that you are generating this polarization in association with differences may seem to you initially to be contradictory. You are engaging this wave addressing to truths, therefore you should be recognizing that your truths are not true and you should not be expressing judgment. But what have I expressed to you from the onset of this particular wave? It is not a wave that shall be addressed intellectually. It is being addressed experientially. If it is being addressed experientially, you are experiencing your truths.

You are experiencing your anger or frustration or irritation of a lack of what you perceive to be fairness, for that is YOUR truth. And what is the automatic response to your own truths if you are presented with differences? To oppose.

STEPHEN: Judgment.

ELIAS: And that is what is generating this polarization, for that is an automatic response, to oppose any difference that threatens your truth or that opposes your truth. The automatic response is to match energy, and this is the point that has been expressed with all of these individuals in this mass event, to pay attention.

PAT: Elias, was there any significance for the area of the world where this happened, why there and not here?

ELIAS: Yes. The significance is that it would involve more of your world. It would be a physical location that is rich in trade with many, many, many countries. It is also an area in which there is much travel. There is a large influx of individuals from many, many, many other areas of your world. Therefore it would be quite impactful not merely to one country but to many countries, and therefore would be quite noticed.

GEORGE: Well, God... (Laughter)

ELIAS: Yes? (Grinning)

GEORGE: The interesting thing is that almost no animals perished in this whole event.

ELIAS: Quite! Which is quite significant, but not unusual and quite natural. Why do you think that is?

GEORGE: Because we have lost a sense that they still retain?

ELIAS: No, you have not lost those senses. You merely do not pay attention to them, and you do not pay attention to what you are creating within your energy, and you have generated such a separation between yourself and all that you create, which is all of your reality, all of your universe, your planet, your environment, your atmosphere. All that is within your reality Ė ALL that is within your reality Ė you are each individually creating, but you generate this belief of separation, which creates a reality of separation of yourself from your environment. Your environment is merely an extension of you.

Your creatures know that and experience that, and your creatures recognize what is churning within their atmosphere and choose not to participate in that action and know that that is being created by your energy. Therefore they flee and they are unharmed. For it is not their energy that is generating this mass event, it is YOUR energy that is creating this mass event. It is unnecessary for your creatures to participate. They are already cooperating; they are already appreciating.

GEORGE: Do they still have the knowingness?


PAT: With that in mind, Elias, with the massive mudslides that we had recently in California, there were a lot of animals that were affected and were covered by the mud, some of them found with their families, almost protecting the families. Why did those creatures choose to be...

ELIAS: That was a different event.

PAT: Thereís no correlation between the two?

ELIAS: No. This is your location. I have spoken of this physical location and other locations previously. Individuals dwell and choose to dwell in physical locations that resonate with their energy. You resonate with each other. You generate a similarity of energy, which is what creates your environment.

In this physical location, you generate extremes, and the individuals that dwell in this physical location generate an energy of extremes. It may not appear to you that you are generating extremes, for it is natural and it is what you term to be normal. Therefore, you do not perceive it as extremes, but your energies together create an intensity and your environment reflects that. It is an environment of drama.

PAT: Back to the creatures Ė how come they didnít decide to leave?

ELIAS: For the creatures also dwell in this environment and they are connected with you and they are participating with you.

This event was designed to express a message. The creatures in that area already understand the message. They are already experiencing the message. Therefore, there is no need for them to participate in the mass event.

The creatures that dwell in this area, in this location where you dwell, they are a part of your environment; they are a part of you. You are not generating a statement to yourselves continuously. You are merely generating your natural flow of energy, which your environment reflects in extremes and in drama. Which is not bad; you enjoy more excitement than other individuals in other locations. Therefore, this is what you generate and it is reflected in your environment also. Other locations may not necessarily enjoy that type of excitement, and therefore they do not create that.

But the environment, the natural movements or what you term to be disasters or even weather patterns, they are all created by you collectively. They are orchestrated by the individuals collectively that dwell in particular areas.

Therefore, once again I inquire of you: how are YOU participating in the tsunami? What are you generating in your reality that is creating polarization or opposition?

NICOLETTE: To be honest, I think Iíd have to say that my participation is a wake-up call, and my judgment is that we need to wake up and maybe something like this would cause a wake-up.

ELIAS: Very well. I am aware that there are some of you that may not necessarily be generating extremes in this time framework and you may not necessarily be generating much opposition. You may be generating your own movement into balance and you may be presenting yourself with some of your truths and understanding them.

This is the point, that whether you are generating an energy of opposition or not, what is important is that you are allowing yourselves to move into a recognition of what your truths are and how you express them. For although we have spoken of these truths many times, they are more elusive than you think, for they are so very absolute and unquestioned that you do not see them. This is the reason that this wave is being expressed in experience, and this is the reason that it is important to be paying attention to your experiences and what you are actually doing.

STELLA: Elias, I think thatís what is happening with me. Thatís where Iím going, right? I need your validation! (Laughter, and Elias laughs) I think thatís where Iím going.

ELIAS: Where are you going?

STELLA: The direction of coming to terms with the opposition and having more cooperation and being the angel that I always wanted to be! Thatís my experience right now. I am having a hard time, I really am, with this wave. I think with the bad times that Iím having, Iím getting close to the area of appreciation, do you think?

ELIAS: By recognizing your own truths and also recognizing your natural expressions of energy, and allowing yourself to move more into a balance in that.

STELLA: Iím sorry, Elias, but you told me yesterday that I donít have to go to that balance. Iím the only one! (Laughter) I donít have to reach balance.

ELIAS: Ah, but your balance is your extremes!

LETTY: But thatís good!

STELLA: But ... what a second! (Laughter) Thatís why I donít have to work towards balance.

ELIAS: For your balance is your extremes.

STELLA: Right, because I was concerned and I was going to really work on balance. Now I donít have to work on balance Ė I just wanted to make that clear. Everybody else does except me! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Very well, Cindel. You do not deal with balance and you mind your extremes, and we shall see. And perhaps we shall be speaking with each other sooner than later! (Laughs loudly)

CAROL: I find myself becoming really interested in conflict resolution and mediation, being able to do that. Iíve just been to my conservative relatives who have a lot of money and a lot of conservative values, and I realized that they live in me. I came to see a median, that this is a another part of me. All of these people and all of these viewpoints feel like theyíre in me, that Iím the Republican and that Iím all of these... So I became interested in conflict resolution. Our community is very polarized, but it feels like I can see that, that Iím all of them.

ELIAS: Quite, yes.

CAROL: I didnít have to go to one or the other of them, I could just mediate.

ELIAS: Without the expectation of changing other individuals, correct. Very well.

JOHN: Elias, Iíve been generating my intention on my balance towards my goals, and I find myself creating without manifesting my true reality, where I want to be.

ELIAS: Which is?

JOHN: Which is fulfillment of the mission in my mind.

ELIAS: And what is your mission?

JOHN: My mission is to heal.

ELIAS: Ah. To heal what?

JOHN: To heal others, to give my gifts that I have. But it hasnít manifested and I donít know why. Iíve been working in every area, I believe.

ELIAS: And the reason that you generate obstacles is that you also generate expectations.

You may engage a direction of healing and create quite a successfulness in that, but the manner in which you shall be successful is to recognize that you are not healing another individual or another expression of consciousness, that you are cooperating with another individual and that you are offering your energy in supportiveness, and not to generate an expectation that the energy that you offer shall be received and configured in the manner that you want [but] that it may be received and configured in the manner that the other individual wants, which may not necessarily be in conjunction with what you want. In allowing yourself a genuine cooperation with another individual without expectation, you project a very different type of energy, one that is received by the other individual that may encourage the other individual to generate their own healing.

The other aspect of this is that in attempting to instruct and also attempting to do and generating the expectations, you draw different types of individuals to you, not necessarily those that genuinely wish to cooperate and genuinely heal themselves. You draw to yourself individuals that are moving in a reflective manner to you of expectation also, individuals that do not necessarily want to be healing and therefore they configure the energy differently. They configure it in the manner which reflects your expectations, that you may view your own expectation and therefore allow you to actually recognize what you are doing.

Now; if you move in another expression and allow yourself to genuinely create a cooperation with another individual and merely share Ė share your energy, your experience freely with the other individual without an expectation and allow them to receive that energy in what ever manner they choose Ė you shall incorporate much more of a successfulness and you shall draw much more to yourself.

GEORGE: Elias, if I may, it seems like acceptance balances a lot of these extremes, at least for myself. Once acceptance comes in, judgment flies out the window. As long as one is open and just lets it be somehow, thereís a lot less conflict coming oneís way.


GEORGE: Thereís not energy that one has to fight off.

ELIAS: Yes. Acceptance is a significant key, but acceptance may be challenging at times if you are presenting significant differences to yourself that trigger your own truths and generate a threat. Differences generate automatic threat, and if the difference is what you term to be big enough, the expression of acceptance may be challenging to incorporate.

This is the reason that it is important to notice what your truths are and therefore incorporate the ability to identify those differences and why they trigger within you, and in that generate an awareness within yourself, a reminder within yourself, that your truths are true for you and that they are your guidelines. Therefore, for you they are right and good.

Duplicity is not being eliminated any more than any other belief system. It is being expressed differently, it is being incorporated differently, but it is not being eliminated. You continue to incorporate your opinions and your preferences. I have expressed that from the onset of this forum. You shall, even fully shifted and in complete acceptance, continue to incorporate your own opinions and your own preferences and your own guidelines. That is an element of your uniqueness, each of you.

But the expression of the good and the bad and the right and the wrong shall be different, for you shall apply it to yourself and not necessarily to other individuals. You may view actions or choices of other individuals and you may express within yourself that you do not agree or that you do not like them, that you do not prefer them, and you recognize that your choice is to move with your guideline. Therefore, YOU shall not express in that manner for it is not your preference, but not incorporate the judgment of the other individual if they choose to be expressing in a particular manner. That is the significance of being aware of your own truths and recognizing that they are only true to you.Ē [session 1695, January 15, 2005]

ELIAS: ďGood afternoon!

GROUP: Good afternoon, Elias!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) We shall be engaging an exchange in this conversation, and I shall be requesting your participation. I shall be posing two questions to each of you, and we shall discuss what your response is.

The two questions that I pose to you are: what is your greatest fear, and what is your greatest irritation? Both of those questions are posed in relation to yourselves and in relation to your interactions with other individuals.

GILLIAN: ... I recognize the irritation question more easily. Government control, protection from outside Ė itís a really irritating factor in my life, and thatís where Iím going at the moment. I am experiencing and drawing it all to me, and itís an irritating experience. Itís like, why? I donít really like this, but I know Iím experiencing it and I know Iím creating it. Before that, it was like, ĎNo problem! Iíll just circle it, go the other way.í But itís a real irritation Ė form-filling and what-have-you. Thatís my irritation.

ELIAS: Very well. In this, you are irritated at the difference.

GILLIAN: How do I go into the acceptance of it? I donít want to pull it into my life, but Iím doing it. Iíve created a situation where I need assistance in a specific way. There are other areas where I donít need assistance, but theyíre still poking their nose in my life.

ELIAS: And what is [needed]?

GILLIAN: Monies to live, lack of employment, a roof over my head. Theyíre doing a wonderful job, but on the other hand Iím really irritated with this form filling. I havenít done it in forever in my life; I just didnít create that. But Iím doing it now.

ELIAS: But you chose that.

GILLIAN: I know I chose it! But why?

ELIAS: For you generate a perception that you incorporate a need. What is a need?

GILLIAN: Iíve never lacked before.

ELIAS: Need is a perceived lack. A need may be expressed in association with an anticipated lack, a present lack, and loss or the anticipated loss. That generates the feeling and the perception of need, which also generates you into the role of the victim, not creating your reality any longer but dependent upon other individuals or other sources to create your reality for you.

GILLIAN: The Ďdependentí word is important. But at the same time, I realize what Iím doing. When Iím looking into creating my reality, Iím looking into my abundance at the same time and saying I come from a space where thereís enough to go around. This is juxtaposing the thing; itís sort of knocking it on the head.

ELIAS: You generate an irritation with the method.

GILLIAN: That makes sense to me.

ELIAS: But you have chosen to participate in the method.

GILLIAN: That I know, but it irritates me anyway.

ELIAS: And the irritation is expressed in association with difference.

GILLIAN: But I am different.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but other individuals are different also. That is the point: not opposing. What creates the irritation is the opposition.

GILLIAN: So Iím polarizing into ĎIím a free-flowing being and youíre not a free-flowing being.í

ELIAS: Which is what?

GILLIAN: Opposition.

ELIAS: Opposition and judgment and a lack of acceptance of difference. As I have stated, this is the most difficult and challenging experience and expression that you shall encounter in association with this wave addressing to truth: difference.

GILLIAN: I know, but I always thought I was pretty cool on that!

ELIAS: And obviously you are offering yourself new information... (Group laughter)

GILLIAN: I am, indeed!

ELIAS: ...concerning your absolutes.

GILLIAN: Now the fear bit has come into my head, and the fear bit is the dependency. Throughout my life Iíve quite adequately created a dependency without always worrying about it but oftentimes worrying about it.

Iíve moved into a space lately in the last six or eight months where Iíve felt like I was actually making a change in my life, and I was actually choosing to be independent and creating everything the way I wanted to. But the dependency is still there, and it scares me. (Emotionally) It scares me to bits because I feel Iíll never get there.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this also is associated with control. Many individuals incorporate STRONG tendencies in association with control in different capacities. Control is a very strong expression and association that many of you incorporate. For if you do not incorporate control, how shall you manipulate your environment and your focus? How shall you generate intentionally creating what you want if you do not express control? But control is not the issue.

GILLIAN: No, itís not, and I recognize that.

ELIAS: But it matters not, for underlyingly it IS the issue.

GILLIAN: I have so much support in my dependency. But I would like to just wake up one morning and say, ĎHey, way to go! I created what I want to create, and I did this on my own,í even though you offer me and I allow supportiveness, to be able to say, ĎIím okay.í

ELIAS: Yes, for you have created that.

What you are opposing is yourself. In opposing yourself and in denying yourself the acknowledgment of yourself, you generate fear and irritation. You oppose yourself and you oppose other individuals, but more so you oppose yourself.

GILLIAN: Yes, and I do that a lot.

ELIAS: In this, the key important point is to balance and to begin to acknowledge yourself that whatever method you choose to accomplish any particular direction or desired outcome matters not Ė you have accomplished the outcome.

GILLIAN: I do have moments when I look at it to remind myself that thatís exactly what I want. I know and I recognize those moments. But there are other moments where Iím in complete, well, not quite despair, like how Iíve been before; I havenít gone to that deep space of I canít get out of it. But the extremes! One day itís like, ĎHey, youíre on top of the world,í and then the next day Iím crying and crying. What the hell is this about?

ELIAS: This concerns this wave and the extreme...

GILLIAN: How soon is it going?

ELIAS: It is not. (Laughter) That is the reason that I continue to address to this with all of you, for it is NOT receding. The reason it is not receding is what we are addressing now, this type of situation, [and] many, many other types of situations.

All of you present in this forum this day have some elements within you that are opposing and are generating that fear and irritation, and it concerns difference. The point is to be genuinely evaluating what that is being generated from, for it is NOT being generated from outside of you. It does not concern other individuals or collective individuals or governments or any other expression. It is what you are opposing within yourselves and what you are denying within yourselves.

This is what continues to be expressed and this is the reason that this particular wave is not ceasing, which is being expressed in quite obvious terms in relation to your world, which is experiencing tremendous turmoil and tremendous polarization and tremendous opposition.

The point is that each of you makes a contribution. What is your contribution? Is your contribution opposition? For there is no collective without the individuals. The most significant is the individual. This is the movement of this shift, movement into directing yourselves, not allowing other individuals or authorities or groups to be dictating to you but for you to be choosing and creating in your own empowerment and your own recognition of your freedom and your strength.

Some of you are generating more of an awareness of this and are creating less opposition and less conflict, and some of you are generating more conflict and more opposition. But each of you incorporates some element in which you do generate opposition, and that creates fear and irritation.

That is the point, to be aware of what it is that you generate within yourself that creates that fear or that irritation. You cannot address to what you are expressing or what you are creating if you are not aware of what it is. It is important that you are aware and you allow yourselves to actually see yourselves and know that you are not a victim, that YOU are generating all of these choices, and [know] what type of energy you are projecting that influences your environment and what you create outwardly.

Individuals in recent time framework have been projecting energy in volumes of ĎWhy? Why is this occurring? Why is this happening? Why am I doing this?í You are giving yourselves no answers, which I have addressed previously. ĎWhyí is a question that is so very familiar you do not respond to yourself if you inquire Ďwhy.í You merely engage your hamster wheel again and again, and you offer yourselves no information. But figuratively I may express to you, (wryly) those of us in the cosmos have been receiving tremendous shouts of ĎWhy?í (Laughter) This is the reason that I speak to you, and my energy is always with you.

But it is your responsibility to generate the openness to receive information or to provide yourselves with information, and that is what each of you are doing in this moment. You are creating this. You are creating myself as a means to offer yourselves information. Credit yourselves with the information that you receive this day. Do not credit me, for you are all creating this scenario.Ē [session 1742, April 02, 2005]

ELIAS: ďWhat we shall be discussing: motivation, why bad things happen, energy, and your favorite subject, truths. Identifying truths, which is what we shall begin with.

Who has identified a truth?

ELLA: Does it qualify if I realize that certain beliefs from my childhood that I never analyzed or questioned, I realized that they were beliefs and that they (inaudible). Is that true?

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

JEREMY: I have one. I have a belief that love requires sacrifice.

ELIAS: Very well. And in that, what do you view are the influences?

JEREMY: So far, Iíve viewed it relating to one of my religious beliefs about self-worth and deservingness.

ELIAS: And how do you view that is affecting of you in your daily actions?

JEREMY: Iíve noticed in addressing to that belief or that truth that I usually tend to forfeit my choice to the other individual by discounting my own expressions in viewing the other individualís wants or expressions as more deserving than mine.

ELIAS: And how does this truth influence you in mundane actions that you engage yourself?

JEREMY: Usually I notice I tend to hold back and create a lot of restrictions, even in playing video games. Sometimes crossing the street, I might create a lot of traffic and I view cars holding more dominance over the road than me, so to speak, because theyíre bigger and can kill me.

ELIAS: In identifying this truth and recognizing its influences, do you recognize how often in one day there are expressions that are generated or actions that are generated that are associated with that truth?

JEREMY: Many, many times.

ELIAS: And what do you do?

JEREMY: Since Iíve become aware of it and allow that awareness, usually I present myself with choice. Sometimes I offer a fluctuation, where I seem to want to create both the familiar Ė which is going back into the forfeiting of my choice Ė and also moving into the new choice. It just depends on the moment and the specific expression, where in that moment I am choosing to place my trust Ė if I actually trust the new information or the new direction, which is the trust in myself and the validity of my expression, or if I choose to go back into the familiar and not do that.

ELIAS: Very well. (Looking at the group) Another?

ELLA: I donít know if itís a truth, but recently I realized that I have a thought in my head that I talk a lot. Iíve never analyzed that as being my truth. But lately I am seeing how, like you said, through the day it influences my beliefs so that internally I tell myself that I have to control, that I am doing something that affects other individuals in ways that they donít feel comfortable with, and it also leaves a negative connotation of myself to me. But lately Iíve been more aware of that and also of the generating more choice of accepting myself just the way I am rather than fighting it, and feeling that maybe I am not worthwhile to be listened to. Is that the thing that you are describing?

ELIAS: Yes. Another?

VERONICA: I am in conflict as to the foods that I can safely eat Ė do I need to eat organic food in order to maintain my health. At times I say it doesnít make a difference, because if I believe that potato chips are good for me, I can eat them. But Iím caught between eating foods that I think are good for me and foods that are not good for me.

ELIAS: What is the identification of the truth?

VERONICA: The truth is that I hold conflict as to what to eat.

ELIAS: That is an influence. What is the truth?

VERONICA: I am what I eat, and if I want to be healthy I need to eat what I label as good food or what is labeled as good healthy food.

ELIAS: The truth would be concerning health.

VERONICA: And the food that I eat?

ELIAS: The food is an influence. The truth is health. In this, a strong influence of that truth with you is food and what types of food you eat. How does this truth affect you in relation to other individuals and differences?

VERONICA: I will try to convince others as to their choice of diet rather than allowing them to make their own choices. So Iím kind of controlling their choices rather than just saying let them eat their choice and donít interfere.

ELIAS: Another?

PAT: A belief in limitation, a truth of limitation, in a way that for me is that I must not be wasteful: waste food, waste water, waste power, waste energy.

ELIAS: And how do you view that to influence mundane actions that you generate within your day?

PAT: Iím very careful not to leave the faucet running or saving things from dinner. I have to save things, not to throw away things that have value to maybe someone else, that I shouldnít throw that away; thatís wrong.

ELIAS: And how does this influence you in relation to other individuals and differences?

PAT: I make judgments about people who do waste things. How could they leave the water running? How could they leave all the lights on? How could they throw that away?

ELIAS: (Nods) Another?

KEN P: I am a focus of awareness and consciousness, and where that relates to day-to-day life is that I can be focused anywhere, not just in this body, but I can be focused in a dream, I can be focused in other altered states. What is becoming aware now is that there can be other focuses focusing through the body.

ELIAS: And what is the truth?

KEN P: The truth is that I am a focus of awareness and consciousness.

ELIAS: No. That is not a truth.

KEN P: It is not?

ELIAS: No. Another?

KEN M: The situation where one would feel that productivity that involves struggle would create an outcome that is more valued or valuable. Interestingly enough, sometimes for instance if I look at want ads in the paper, I will see ad after ad where somebody is looking for a hard worker Ė Ďwe want a hard workerí Ė but to me that would imply hardship. I was curious as to why they would not put theyíre looking for a vigorous worker, which would be the same thing and would not have that same kind of belief attached to it. Iím kind of curious about that.

I just feel that has been ingrained in us all our lives to work hard, work hard. But if something is acquired easily, itís almost like you had that easy. So itís like definitely a belief attached to that, in terms of productivity.

ELIAS: Do you view this as one of your truths?

KEN M: Yes, very much in my life Iíve done that and still find myself doing it. When I find myself thinking in terms of that, Iíve decided to just realize, wait a minute, Iím doing the old Ďthis is valuable because I worked hardí and that itís not necessarily a truth of reality. Itís just basically a belief that is entertained by many people.

I believe less thickness would be produced for me by looking at this as ĎI put forth a vigorous effort,í because that has kind of a neutrality to it. Vigor is just vigor, as opposed to Ďhard,í which always makes you think of hardship or twenty years at hard labor, that sort of thing.

Almost, in a way, itís kind of like a thing that Seth once said about bridge beliefs, the same kind of thing, and I was wondering if it might have been kind of a precursor to your concepts of acceptance.

JEREMY: Would that also be an example of struggle being more noble?

KEN M: Yes, that same sort of thing.

ELIAS: It is a belief. But we are identifying those beliefs that have been generated into absolutes that are being identified as your individual truths.

RODNEY: Iíve had these conversations going on in my head for my whole life. I create dialogues between people, between myself and people. The other day I said whatís with these frigginí dialogues? They just go on. They get triggered and I donít know what triggers them, although Iím improving as to discovering what does trigger them. In doing that, I realized that what motivates these dialogues in my head is a lack of trust in my own decision-making, in my own choices.

I love butter. I put butter on my bread four times thicker than anybody you ever saw. So I have a dialogue in my head about butterís good for me and I donít give a damn what other people do. But why am I having that dialogue? It came to me that thereís a very strong belief that I have to justify myself, period. (Elias nods) Thatís draining an awful lot of energy out of me.

ELIAS: What is the truth?

RODNEY: Thatís what Iím trying to see. Itís gotta be a truth because itís so prevalent.

ELIAS: You expressed it already. (Smiling) What did you say?

RODNEY: I said a lot of things.

ELIAS: Justification.

RODNEY: Yes, I see that very clearly.

ELIAS: Therefore...

RODNEY: So whatís the truth?

ELIAS: That IS the truth.

RODNEY: That I have to justify myself?


RODNEY: So the antidote to that...

ELIAS: We shall proceed in that direction shortly.

RODNEY: You canít just say? (Laughter)

ELIAS: We shall continue in that direction shortly. (Looking at Alicia) Yes?

ALICIA: Iím almost embarrassed to say this, but I think itís a truth because it feels absolute to me. I donít pay attention to it but it influences me. I think I still hold that creation occurs outside the self. Things will happen to me and my immediate response is somebodyís doing that TO me, this is happening TO me, as opposed to I am generating this. (Elias nods)

Actually, one of the things Iím finding is Ė I donít know if this is typical Ė I donít think I like any of my truths or my beliefs. I feel like I live them and Iíve been raised by them, and all of a sudden I donít like any of them. So when you talk about preferences, theyíre not my preferences but I still live by them. Itís very frustrating.

BILL: One of mine, I believe, is a truth that I need to fill time, like I need to do something. It doesnít need to be a struggle; itís just that I need to be doing something, like sitting there meditating, which I donít like doing. Maybe I donít like it because itís one of my truths. That seems to be a truth that Iíve never really thought about before.

ELIAS: (Nods) Yes.

PAUL: How about respect? Thatís a big one I think.

ELIAS: Yes, and how does this influence you?

PAUL: I think I go through a process of judging others if they donít respect either themselves, other people, me. I fall into this trap of judging.

ELIAS: And how do you view that influencing you in mundane actions that you generate within your day?

PAUL: Unknown; I donít know. I havenít processed it fully.

ELIAS: Very well.

ELLA: Elias, what I thought of as my truth, which is that I talk a lot, does that concern self-worthiness and also caring what other individuals think of me? Is that what I would identify as the underlying truth?

ELIAS: Image.

ELLA: My self-image?


ELLA: But you donít leave it to self-worthiness? I donít understand. I understand that itís not the maybe the best (inaudible), but doesnít it deeper relate to self-worthiness?

ELIAS: That can be an influence, that can be an avenue, but the truth is image.

KEN P: Are you working to get a distinction here between truth and belief? Is that part of what this exercise is?

ELIAS: No. We have established that your truths, your individual truths ARE beliefs. They are merely beliefs that have been generated into absolute. The point is that they are challenging if not quite difficult to identify, for they are so unquestioned and they are generated so automatically. Generally, you are unaware of what they are or how to identify them, but they are very influencing.

And now we address to the second part of your question, in that they are NOT your enemy. They are your guidelines. In your terms, they are good.

RODNEY: Boy, they donít feel that way!

ALICIA: No, they donít!

ELIAS: The reason that you make this association that they are bad is that you are not aware of the expressions and influences of them in mundane actions that you engage every day that you ARE comfortable with. What you notice is influences that are uncomfortable or that are automatic responses that limit your choices.

When you identify a truth and recognize a truth genuinely and begin to view how that truth is associated with many, many actions that you engage within your day, you begin to recognize that there are many expressions of that truth that ARE comfortable for you. They ARE preferences and they are your guidelines. They become conflicting and what you view as your enemy when you are not aware of these influences or when you are not aware that they are a guideline for you, or when you are discounting your own guideline and expressing to yourself that it is bad.

Not being wasteful Ė this IS a preference; it IS a guideline. But that guideline can also create conflicts in association with differences.

If you are not aware of your guidelines and that they are YOUR guidelines and that they are not necessarily other individualsí guidelines, what occurs is Ė as it is an absolute and it is not questioned, unless it is being questioned in discounting yourself Ė there is an underlying expectation continuously expressed within you that other individuals shall respond in like manner to yourself in any given situation.

This blocks the acceptance of difference, for you are automatically generating a personalization of those differences, for they are absolute. There is no other means or manner to engage in certain actions. You must and all other individuals must also, for this is the absolute established method. But it is not. It is your own absolute established method, and that is not necessarily bad.

Truths are all associated in some capacity with your preferences, but many of you are not aware of your preferences. In this, those same truths that generate conflict are also the same truths that influence you to behave in certain manners, to engage certain actions in certain capacities, in certain directions. You engage actions within your day that are mundane actions that do not incorporate thought, and you do not generate any recognition of any association with those actions.

Do you wash your dishes?


ELIAS: Do you wash your clothes?


ELIAS: And each of you shall engage these actions in a particular manner. You will each engage these actions with your own method. Do you fold your clothes? Do you hang your clothes? If you do or if you do not, every action that you engage is being associated and motivated by your truths, by your guidelines.

The manner in which you engage these actions is an expression of energy. In that expression of energy, if you are not aware of your truth and how it is influencing you and you encounter another individual that washes their clothes differently than you do, your automatic association shall be the other individual is wrong, or my method is better, or the other individual should do this, or you shall confuse yourself and express to yourself a lack of understanding and express, ĎWhy do other individuals do this?í

ELLA: Or you could say maybe Iíve always done it wrong and maybe they are doing it right, if you are not that comfortable with yourself.

ELIAS: That also can occur. The point in this is that this wave is intensifying. (Group comments, mostly of the Ďyouíve got to be kiddingí variety) And why would it not intensify, as most individuals are not actually addressing to truths?

JEREMY: Is this related to the truth in despair also in the not addressing to it, it will exist until the addressment to?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

JEREMY: In transitioning to the addressing to, depending on how a group of individuals are responding to their own truths and their own actions. Regardless of whether there is an allowance of this information or not, some of them might feel lost or confused or even depressed, and based on their allowance in viewing these types of things in whatever manner theyíre choosing, that might create a type of despair, which Iíve heard discussed previously. So Iím asking if that would be in relation to the intensifying of the truth wave.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

PAUL: Are we going to see a physical manifestation globally that will mark this increase in the truth wave?

ELIAS: You already are.

PAUL: Iím thinking like a catastrophic event.

ELIAS: You already are.

JEREMY: Like with Bush, for example Ė many people have varying opinions and beliefs about his approach to things. Would that be an example of viewing truths as well?

ELIAS: Yes, and differences and the intensification of the lack of acceptance of differences. For the lack of understanding of differences, the lack of realization that in association with your own truths you yourselves are creating or initiating the conflicts in not being aware of what they are and not identifying them, most individuals, as I have stated, are not addressing to them and they have not even identified them.

RODNEY: This mass event taking place right now over the immigrant issue with Mexico Ė weíve got 11 million unidentified Mexicans in this country, and there are big street protests taking place. (23)

Why is it that when they do polls you find that almost 50 percent of the people disagree on an issue and 50 percent agree on an issue? In other words, one half of the people say yes and one half of the people say no, and that occurs again and again and again and again. A lot of our elections are very close. They differ by only a few votes.

ELIAS: Polarization.

RODNEY: Yes, but thatís indicating that our truths are mirrored 50-50. Why is that? Why would half of us see it this way and half of us see it that way, instead of 80-20? Itís almost like you get into a discussion with someone and you go so far, and then you come to the place where I see it this way and the other person sees it that way.

ELLA: Maybe because there is a stalemate right now. (Inaudible) ...because the majority was then, and right now the forces are almost equal. You have stalemate. You canít move anywhere. One side pulls at the same force as another, and you block and suspend this way.

ELIAS: Which is also associated with this wave. It is polarizing, and that is allowing very little leeway and much rigidity and extremes.

ALICIA: Elias, Iím confused. I want to go back a little bit. I said that one of my truths was that creation occurs outside the self. Where Iím confused is how does that influence how I wash my dishes or launder my clothes or whether or not I hang them up or leave them on the floor?

ELIAS: This is the point. This is the point of clearly or correctly identifying a truth, for a truth will be influencing of almost every action you engage.

ALICIA: So then that is not a truth of mine? I guess Iím not seeing how it influences.

ELIAS: That is an influence.

ALICIA: What is?

ELIAS: That there are occurrences that are generated outside of you, that reality is created outside of you, or that elements of your reality are being created not by you.

ALICIA: So thatís not a truth, thatís an influence? (Elias nods in agreement) So whatís the truth?

RODNEY: If itís an internal thing, how does my truth of ĎI need to justify everything I doí influence how I wash my clothes?

ELIAS: How DO you wash them?

RODNEY: Soap and water in a washing machine, the same way everybody else does.

ELIAS: Is it?

RODNEY: No, probably not. There are different ways to wash clothes.

ELIAS: Yes, there are. In that, how YOU do this action will be somewhat influenced by your truth...

RODNEY: ...that I need to justify myself.


RODNEY: Maybe I use a little bit more soap than I have to...?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. The influence shall not be obvious unless you are presented with a difference. If another individual visited your home and engaged your laundry for you in an entirely different manner than you do, you may not necessarily appreciate their effort.

RODNEY: Iíd say, ĎWhyíd you do it that way?í

ELIAS: Correct, and in that, you shall justify your method.

RODNEY: Yes. Thatís the influence, the justification?

ELIAS: The justification is the truth, and in mundane actions that you incorporate there is an association with that. It is your truth. It is your guideline. Therefore, you do not view that action as bad. It is the manner in which you do it. But if that same action is done differently, you shall justify your method.

RODNEY: I would feel the need to protect, because justifying is associated with protection. It seems to me that Iím hooked into protecting myself constantly or to protect my ideas. Am I going too far afield with this?

ELIAS: No. That is another influence and can be quite affecting in association with your interaction with other individuals.

Generally speaking, your truths become tapped when you are presented or when you present yourself with a difference. The difference threatens your truth, for your truth is absolute and there are many avenues of your truth that are comfortable and that are not conflicting.

JEREMY: Is this where conflict would come into play? For example, heís washing his clothes, and for him the truths he holds based around washing his clothes as the thing that is threatened, so to speak, by the other individual, is that threat and that justification also motivated by the belief that another individualís reality or truths are more valid? Is that where the threat or the conflict is?

ELIAS: Not necessarily that the other individual is more valid or that their method or their beliefs or their behaviors or actions are more valid. In actuality, quite the contrary, that your own is more valid, that your direction IS the direction.

IOANNA: Like when I rearrange the dishwasher after my mother. I wonít say anything to her but Iíll go in and put everything how I like it. Is that discounting her when I do that or is that just expressing my preference without bringing it to her attention? I know one of my truths is that thereís a certain way that has to be done to make sure everything is clean.

ELIAS: In that, yes, in a manner it is discounting of the other individual, but it is also generating that action of figuratively placing that energy into that container, which this is why bad things happen.

In association with your truths, in mundane actions that you incorporate within your day that you are NOT actually addressing to within self and recognizing the potential of these mundane actions, you are placing that energy into your invisible container that you pull with you in every direction that you move, with every step.

As you continue to place that energy in these small actions into that container, as it fills and begins to overflow, you shall blast that container with an equal strength of energy in opposition to it, and you will create some occurrence that is uncomfortable or that is conflicting or that you do not like. In this, it may be in any type of expression. It may be that you generate an occurrence of some possession that you own is damaged.

IOANNA: Like the ceiling coming down after we just repaired it.

ELIAS: Yes, or your window may be broken or your vehicle may be stolen or you may engage in a significant conflict with another individual or you may be frustrated that you cannot accomplish a particular task or that you are not accomplishing generating what you want.

The energy that is generated in creating those types of occurrences, bad things happening, the same truths that influence those types of occurrences are the same truths that you engage every day, many times within your day, and you do not notice, and they are not recognized, and you do not think. For what is to think Ė why?

DANIIL: How many truths on average does an individual have? Is it hundreds and hundreds, or is it a few major ones?

ELIAS: I would express that each individual incorporates many truths, but that each individual may incorporate a few that would be considered the core truths.

DANIIL: So it may be that washing my clothes, for me, I would have a different truth than someone else?

ELIAS: Yes, yes. Your truth may be...

NATASHA: Washing may be a major truth, how you wash your clothes?

ELIAS: It is not the washing of the clothes that is the truth. It is associated or motivated by a truth that may be appearing to you to be far removed from the action of washing your clothes.

As this individual expressed, one truth of respect, one truth of consideration, this may appear initially to you to have no association with an action of washing your clothes. But you wash them in a particular manner, and when presented with a difference, you may generate an association with consideration or respect, for it is not being expressed in the manner that YOU express. You shall generate this association, for you automatically interpret the expression of the other individual in relation to your truth.

You shall automatically express within yourself the identification Ďthis individual is expressing in an inconsiderate manner.í The individual may not be expressing in an inconsiderate manner, but you shall interpret it in that manner for that is your guideline, and it is unquestioned.

Another individual may not be expressing disrespectfulness, but YOU shall interpret in that manner for that is YOUR truth, YOUR guideline, and you automatically interpret the other individualís expression or behavior in association with your truth, your guideline. It is unquestioned.

GEORGE: So if I find myself making a judgment about another person, at that moment, if I begin to then focus on that judgment and work backwards and attempt to use that as a way of discovering the truth thatís causing me to make that judgment...?

ELIAS: Yes, yes.

JEREMY: Iíve been in discussions with some common individuals and some soft individuals about relationships. In some of these conversations Iíve had, Iíve noticed that some of the conflict comes into play when a common individual might hold a truth that to be in love with someone or to be expressing in a romantic intimate manner, you have to be outwardly expressing, like hugging or kissing or things like that, whereas a soft individual may be expressing in a different manner. Itís not that theyíre not holding those feelings, but itís just more that the common individual has that truth.

ELIAS: Yes, and how differences trigger. But it is not the other individual or the difference that is actually triggering. It is YOU, for you have already set into motion that trigger before it even occurs, for you are continuously expressing your truths. They ARE your guidelines. They ARE NOT bad.

You express your truth of respect. This guides you in how you shall behave and how you shall express. But in not being aware of how many actions you engage that are also associated with that truth, you cannot view the choices that you can engage to not create bad things happening.

PAUL: So one way we could look at this is, letís say we identify our truth, whatever it may be, and then start looking at our dayís activities. In my case, I could have a place-card saying my truth is this, and then Iíll carry it with me or have it posted somewhere where Iíll see it daily, and Iíll try to stop myself and notice aspects of that truth that will influence that given set of activities and beliefs in the moment.


PAUL: Then as we do that, thatíll start diffusing some of that energy weíre carrying around in our bucket?

ELIAS: You begin to empty that container and not continue to place the energy in that container, for you diffuse it. You allow yourself to notice, and you begin to recognize that you do not incorporate merely one choice. You incorporate MANY choices, and it is a matter of choosing the choice that is not expressing your own triggers, that allows you to move in a direction that you continue to appreciate your direction, your guidelines, but you do not set yourself in the choices that shall trigger your own truths in relation to differences.


CAROLE: I have a very developed understanding that Iím creating my own reality 24/7. I never think that itís coming from outside of me. However, Iím just beginning to understand that one of my truths is still the old religious truths of right and wrong, sin and retribution, crime and punishment.

Because I really, really always think that itís always me, no matter whatís going on in my life. When I create something that I donít like, it feels like somehow Iím to blame or Iím wrong or Iím bad, because I know that I created it. I never think itís anyone else or anything else. So that brings me to the point of realizing that one of my truths is still that old-time religion Ė good and bad, right and wrong, I do something and I get punished. So I create a whole little string of minor physical ailments, and I think, ĎWhy am I doing this to myself?í

ELIAS: Cause and effect, in any direction, any expression, which does incorporate the influence of good and bad, right and wrong, and crime and punishment. But it is the truth of cause and effect.

CAROLE: So thatís the truth?

ELIAS: Yes: every action that I incorporate, there shall be a consequence.

RODNEY: Thatís a truth?

ELIAS: This is this individualís truth, of cause and effect. As I have expressed, you each incorporate several core truths that shall influence you in all that you do.

RODNEY: Wouldnít you say that a belief in cause and effect as an absolute truth is probably core to most of us?


RODNEY: Itís universal.

ELIAS: Not necessarily universal, but yes, many, many, many individuals incorporate this as a core truth.

GEORGE: For most of the people in this room, cause and effect is a core truth?


ALICIA: Elias, if you could help me? I think Iím having difficulty identifying a truth, and I think I had a couple of experiences in the last couple of weeks that probably are eliciting to my attention what the truth is. Iím having a hard time figuring it out because it involved conflict and it intensified.

It was interesting. You said that with the boss that I was describing to you that her being there was to help me see my own responses. So right after that, we had two big fights. They seemed to be around her thinking that I am not doing my work and her coming in, and in my experience, being very intrusive to me, not trusting me, constantly wanting to know every little thing that Iím doing, questioning the things that I have on the floor by my chair thinking that itís not work material, looking over my shoulder to see what I have on the computer because she doesnít think that itís work material. Finally I just sort of told her to get off my back, and we got into an argument.

Iím thinking that I must have a truth there. It happened twice in two weeks, and has been occurring, not as intense as the last couple of weeks, but itís been occurring in the last couple of years that Iíve been with her. So is there a truth somewhere that I...? I donít know. (Laughs) Iím one of those people who are struggling in being unable to identify their truths. I can see just the influence, and thatís obviously why it keeps happening, from what youíre saying.

ELIAS: This is the point.

ALICIA: Right, I am the point! (Group laughter) At that time you said that to me, and I know Iím one of those people! So use me as a guinea pig. How do I begin the process of identifying the truth, moving beyond just understanding...?

ELIAS: Paying attention to what YOU are doing...

ALICIA: Iím becoming defensive, is that what you mean?

ELIAS: That and what you are physically doing, paying attention to ALL that you are doing within your day Ė genuinely paying attention and allowing yourself to question what is your motivation.

ALICIA: Iím still confused. How can I begin to break this apart this particular instant to see what my truths are? You said by paying attention to myself, but I guess Iím not paying attention to myself!

ELIAS: I did not express Ďpay attention to yourself,í I expressed Ďpay attention to what you are doing.í

ALICIA: You mean before the conflict happens?

ELIAS: And during. What associations are being generated? What are you doing?

ALICIA: Iím talking.

ELLA: Maybe you donít like your job or something. You go to work thinking you donít want to go there, trying to understand how you relate to your work.

GEORGE: What youíre doing, actually, right now is related to this issue, and what you were doing a few moments ago. I noticed that you had your hand up, and I was looking at that for a while, and then it occurred to me thatís what I used to do when I was in grade school to get the attention of the teacher. I was thinking one of your truths is that youíre a student in relation to Elias and also perhaps in relation to this other person with whom youíre having this conflict.

RODNEY: Itís almost a statement of a question of authority, because thereís a half a dozen people here that would simply interrupt the conversation at what they felt was an appropriate spot, and that seems to flow. But youíre standing there with your hand up, waiting for some outside authority to say itís all right for you to speak.

CAROLE: All right, Iím going to interrupt then, now that everybodyís wanting to interrupt. Can we get back to cause and effect?

ELIAS: Although...

CAROLE: I donít feel that was developed enough, because it sounds like itís ubiquitous. It also sounds like itís related to a lot of the things that are going on here. Because if you move away from cause and effect, what you move to is having each action be a choice regardless of any preconceived notions of an effect of that action, right?


CAROLE: I can keep talking, but Iíd rather listen to you. (Elias chuckles)

RODNEY: But we ARE getting to the issue.


RODNEY: The cause and effect is paramount, in my mind, because if you took the energy out of the box that youíre filling with that, you would become very, very, very powerful...

ELIAS: Precisely. And this truth...

RODNEY: ...because that truth controls every single thing that you do. Everything has a cause; everything has an effect.

ELIAS: Somewhat.

ALICIA: Something tells me, though, that what I thought about wasnít so different from what youíre talking about. If thereís a belief of authority, isnít that cause and effect?

ELIAS: The expression that you are generating, the truth that you are generating is not concerning authority.

ALICIA: Well, then what is it? Please tell me!

ELIAS: It would also be respect Ė you being respectful and you expecting respect in the manner that you express it.

ALICIA: So the raising of my hand is respect?


ALICIA: But how is that with the boss and the conflict? Is that also respect?

ELIAS: For you interpret the other individual in her differences as disrespectful, and that generates conflict for that is threatening to YOUR truth, to your guideline.

ELLA: May I express that I had a person trying to supervise me every moment? I saw that that person was insecure. He wanted my report every 30 minutes, but I would give it every 15 minutes. That person seemed very comfortable that I know what Iím doing, that I am cooperating in a very appreciating manner. I didnít do it with attitude. I genuinely wanted him to be more secure, so I reported twice as often as he expected. It lasted two days, and he never wanted to monitor me again! (Group laughter)

ALICIA: Except in my case, itís the opposite. Iím giving her logs, and now sheís wanting more.

ELIAS: ... In association with your truths, it is important that you recognize how they interplay with your movement, how they complement you, how your truths allow you to move in your directions in a comfortable manner, and it is important that you acknowledge the value of them. The automatic response is to perceive them as bad and to merely focus upon the influences of them that hinder you. But there are many more influences that do not hinder you, that allow you to move in your own natural expression and allow you to interact with yourself in a manner of comfort. They ARE precisely your guidelines.

(To Carole) It is not bad to incorporate a core truth of cause and effect. It guides you: it guides your behavior; it guides how you think; it guides how you interact. It prevents you, many times, from generating an action that you may regret.

(To Paul) It is not bad to incorporate a core truth of respect. It guides your behavior, how you interact with other individuals.

(To Rodney) It is not bad to be incorporating a core truth of justification. It guides you in allowing you to accomplish what you want in the fashion that you want.

(To Jeremy) It is not bad to incorporate the core belief concerning relationships or your experience in relation to other individuals and moving in the direction of placing other individuals first or valuing other individuals. It guides your behavior.

(To Lynda) It is not bad to incorporate a core truth of consideration. It guides you in how you behave.

None of your truths are bad. They do incorporate influences that limit you, but only in association with automatic responses. You become so very familiar with your truths that in being unquestioned, they incorporate many, many automatic responses.

Some of your automatic responses you would evaluate as good and you would not change and you would appreciate. Some of your automatic responses lead you into conflict and lead you into bad things occurring, in your terminology. This is the reason that it is so very important and significant that you identify what your truths are, and that you not merely identify what your truths are but that you recognize what the influences are, and in that, allow yourself to recognize that you incorporate choice.

Let me also express to you, when you genuinely recognize [and] identify your truth, the element of Ďyou do not create all of your realityí becomes a moot point, for in accepting the responsibility of your own truth, you begin to recognize and perceive in reality that you ARE creating all of your reality. You are not a victim to circumstances, to scenarios, to situations, to other individuals, for YOU incorporate the choices and you can choose different actions to allow yourself to continue in the expression of your truth but not be dissuaded by other individualsí choices, expressions or behaviors. They literally move into the expression of Ďit matters not.í You shall incorporate no judgment associated with differences, for you shall offer yourself choices that open new avenues, even in association with washing your clothes. Even in the mundane actions that you generate each day, you shall not be placing that energy into that container, for you shall allow yourself to engage choices that circumvent that expression of setting yourself into motion to trigger yourself.

Other individuals are merely a catalyst in reflection; they are not actually DOING the action of triggering you. YOU are doing the action of triggering you, and you began that before you presented the scenario to yourself in which you become triggered, for you engaged choices that set you in a direction to be triggered. But if you are aware of your truths, you are intentionally directing and intentionally creating.

What is the intention of every individual within this room or within this Forum? The intention of every individual is to be aware of themselves objectively to the point that you can objectively intentionally create your reality in the manner that you want, whether it be associated with relationships or money or home or family or children or your employment; it matters not.

What you want is to intentionally direct yourselves to create what you want. That being such an intense desire, it is motivating you to be generating all of these experiences, the experiences that you do not like, the experiences that generate discomfort. The reason that you generate these experiences is associated with that desire. But you lose sight of that desire and you express to yourselves, ĎWhy can I not create what I want now?í Why can you not create what you want now? You are not aware of what influences you NOW in all that you do.

I have been expressing for an extended time framework the significance and the importance of paying attention to all that you do. There is NO element hidden from you. There is no subconscious. ALL is available to you. It is merely a matter of paying attention and not placing yourself in the position of the co-pilot of your airplane, with no pilot. Without the pilot, it is quite a guess where the plane shall fly, and you incorporate no sense of control! In that, you open the door to be the victim of situations, of circumstances, of other individuals Ė even of yourselves! You sabotage yourselves, for you are not directing.

The question in each individual is ĎHow do I direct? What does this mean? And what do I pay attention to?í You wish to be incorporating a formula. You wish for me to offer you the formula. I HAVE, repeatedly. (24) But the formula is too simple, and without the complication, the formula is not being received, for you continue to look for more of the formula: ĎComplicate it, Elias. Generate more of it, Elias. This is simple. This cannot be accomplished; it cannot be all that there is.í

I express to you to pay attention to what you are doing, and you incorporate questions in your mind. ĎWhat am I doing? I am sitting, I am listening; I am doing nothing.í You are never doing nothing. You are always engaging choices and you are always doing in many more expressions than you allow yourself to be aware of. Your body consciousness is always doing. You are always generating choices, every moment. Each of you in this moment is generating a choice to sit, to listen...

RODNEY: To munch! (Group laughter)

ELIAS: And are you aware of what you are doing, what associations you are generating as you are listening?

PAUL: Yes. I am processing.

ELLA: I also notice that I automatically distract myself and then I recall that action. I just noticed I was sitting doing this. It was my action to distract myself, and especially what you were saying, I can see the difficulty. I tried paying attention and itís especially difficult. Itís simple Ė the formula is simple; the action is difficult. So I start distracting myself, and then I recall.

I also analyze. While you were reciting every truth, I was noticing my bodyís response to each of the truths. For me, it was an opportunity to see if I can identify more of them, and from that I deduct that probably cause and effect and consideration are more prominent than respect, and justification comes somewhere in the middle, for me personally.

ELIAS: Yes, and image.

ELLA: Image is the first one you identified, so I knew I didnít have to analyze that. I was trying to identify what I didnít identify myself. So thatís what Iíve been doing. Do you commend? Do you concur?

ELIAS: I do. I do concur, and I am also acknowledging. I am acknowledging of you all that you ARE participating and that you are noticing what you are doing. You are not merely listening. You are paying attention that there are other actions that you are engaging also, regardless of whether you are moving physically or not.


BILL: Elias, itís interesting that you got to this point. I was sitting here wanting to ask a question like crazy. Iím sitting back and Iím putting my hand up or not. When you started talking about noticing, Iím noticing this incredible belief I have that interrupting people is not a good thing. So I put my hand down and squirm and energyís going through me. So having said that, Iím going to ask a question Iíve been wanting to ask.

You said that everythingís a choice and that we also create conflict. Itís a choice to create that, and we may not like it. The question I have is I think you may have said at one point that some people desire conflict. If itís a desire rather than a want thatís incorrectly interpreted by thought, how do you know that the conflict youíve created is actually a desire? Do you understand what Iím saying? (Elias nods) If youíre a drama queen or a drama king, how do you know if thatís part of your desire rather than just a want? Because in your thoughts, itís not something you want.

ELIAS: Correct.

BILL: How do you know the difference?

ELIAS: How have I instructed to evaluate or discover what your intent is?

BILL: To pay attention to the events of the entirety of your life.

ELIAS: Correct, the theme of your experiences. In this, if the theme of your experiences within the entirety of your focus has consistently been conflict and you begin to evaluate how that conflict is generated rather than merely moving in the direction of blame, if you begin to evaluate how YOU create that and your participation in that, an individual MAY generate the recognition that this is an action that they value.

BILL: Are there people who actually like conflict? (Assents from the group) Really? I hate it.

JEREMY: I do, at times. It gives me a challenge.

ELIAS: There are individuals that do like conflict and appreciate that.

ELLA: Conflict is a great way to clear the air in some cases. If you miscommunicate and never speak your mind, eventually it will blow. In some cases itís very beneficial, because there you are, face to face.

BILL: Thatís if youíre paying attention. What Iím getting at is if youíre experiencing conflict, for people who donít pay attention...

ELLA: Thatís what Iím talking about! For me, itís true. In the normal situation where people are not aware of this concept, very often conflict is at the time where people say to each other, ĎThis is my preference; this is yours.í Now they clash and then resolve it, and very often out of conflict eventually compromises occur.

BILL: Youíre talking about yourself. Iím talking about myself.

ELLA: Iím describing mine.

BILL: Yeah, because youíre not describing MY experience of conflict. My experience of conflict is that I donít like it. Before, I have to win and you have to lose, and I donít like that.

ELLA: Iíve been involved where they clear the air like a thunderstorm.

BILL: Yeah, for you!

ELLA: Iím not imposing my view on you. Iím just saying my experience is that, and I know other individuals that this happens to, probably because Iím attracted to that. Iím not saying that you experience the same.

BILL: So how do you know? For me, I donít like it; for you, it resolves something. For me, it repels me Ė at least it did more before I got engaged with you.

ELIAS: Which is recognizing a preference.

BILL: What has happened since I got engaged with you is I rarely encounter conflict anymore, because I donít need to win. A lot of my intent had to do with this win/lose, my experience of polar opposites like right and wrong, competition, everything Iíve done.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But that is not necessarily intent; that is associated with truths...

BILL: Of right and wrong?


BILL: There has to be a winner.

ELIAS: And that influences perception very strongly, and it motivates you.

As to motivation also, this is another factor. For in association with shifting and discovering or identifying truths, your movement is changing. What you are familiar with, what you are accustomed to is goals. You set a goal, you set an ideal, you focus upon a wanted outcome and that is the focal point, and that motivates you to accomplish achieving that goal or that outcome.

What is shifting in perception and being misinterpreted as a lack of motivation with many individuals is the unfamiliarity of generating more importance in relation to the process than the outcome. In paying attention to the process, which is associated with what your desire is Ė to be more aware of yourselves and intentionally creating what you want Ė the outcome becomes unknown. Therefore, the process becomes ultimately important.

For you may engage an idea of what you want, but what you genuinely want is to be generating the awareness to create your reality intentionally entirely in association with what you want Ė THAT is the genuine desire. That can be expressed and developed in many, many different manners, and not necessarily always comfortable, for that choosing aspect of you does not distinguish between comfort or the lack of comfort. What it moves toward is whatever is most efficient to gain your attention.

RODNEY: Ha! Dying will get you there very quickly! (Group laughter)

ELIAS: Yes. (Smiles) Therefore, whether an expression is comfortable or not, if it is efficient and if it gains your attention quickly, that is what you will choose.

In this, as you shift into paying more attention to the process Ė which is what you are doing, all of you Ė your motivation becomes unclear, for you are not incorporating a clear goal. You incorporate an idea that you want to create your reality intentionally. What does that entail? You are not sure, and therefore the goal appears to you to be somewhat defined, but somewhat undefined and vague. It is not; it is quite clear, but you do not incorporate an expectation of what the outcome may be. Without the expectation, that creates, in a manner of speaking, a type of floundering, for it is unfamiliar. You always incorporate an expectation Ė you KNOW what to expect, you KNOW your direction, you KNOW what you want Ė but the greater desire is to be aware and to be intentionally directing and creating what you want.

You can think of many, many, many expressions that you want, but in relation to any of them the desire to be intentionally creating and aware of creating is greater than any of the individual wants that you may want to create. You may want a particular employment, you may want not to be employed, you may want to engage a particular action, you may want to create a relationship, you may want to create money Ė yes, these are all valid wants. But the greater want is to understand and know HOW to be directing yourself intentionally to create those WHEN you want.

Therefore, in that greater desire, you yourself shall present to yourself the opportunity to become more familiar with yourself by identifying what is the most influencing of you that prevents you from creating what you want, and those, many times, are your truths, merely in association with not being aware of them and therefore not intentionally directing yourself in relation to them as guidelines. Therefore, yourself shall present many different expressions and scenarios in which you can offer a showing to yourself of your truths and how they are influencing.

That opens the door to choice, and choice presents your freedom. For once you recognize that you incorporate choice in every situation, in every moment, that you are not locked to one expression or one direction, that within any scenario Ė within every scenario Ė you incorporate choices, not one choice but many choices, there lies the seat of you directing yourself intentionally and allowing you to create what you want WHEN you want it. Not futurely, not anticipating: ĎSome day I shall arrive. Some day I shall incorporate the ability to create this. Eventually I shall incorporate the ability to create what I want.í No.

ĎNOW, in this moment, I can create what I want, for I am aware of what influences me and I am aware that I incorporate choices. It is not black and white. I am not hidden from myself. I am also acknowledging of myself and my guidelines, for they are what allow me to create what I wantí Ė not that I discount myself in incorporating these guidelines, not that they are bad.

Not justification Ė terrible word; very, very bad. No, it is not. It can be, but it is not.

Respect Ė very, very bad; incorporates tremendous judgment. This is very bad. ĎI should not be judgmental of other individuals. I should be...í Should, should, should, should!

Image Ė ĎI should, should, should. I should present myself in this manner. I should appear in this manner. I should express in this manner. I should not express in that manner. I should be aware of how I present myself physically and mentally and interactively. I should be aware of how I present myself in attractiveness or not attractiveness. My form, my thoughts, my speaking.í Many, many, many shoulds!

ELLA: Itís always self seeing self inside of your head.

ELIAS: And this is what creates the discounting. This is what creates the obstacles and this is what creates your truth, your own guideline as an enemy.

ELLA: How do you...?

ELIAS: You appreciate this IS your guideline. This is what you do. This is who you are. This is the manner in which you behave. This is not bad.

ELLA: This is acknowledgment of myself, which Iím doing lately. It feels liberating. But when you say Ďguideline,í to me it has a connotation that it gives you a sense of direction.


ELLA: Acknowledgment, I understand that Ė I acknowledge myself. But how do I direct myself going somewhere where I donít associate with sense of direction in that? Iím not sure.

ELIAS: It already IS your direction. You already do this.

ELLA: I do. But I thought when you said Ďguidelineí...

ELIAS: That IS the guideline.

ELLA: Guideline for me means behave along those lines Ė is that what youíre saying?

ELIAS: Yes, and you already do this. You ALL already do this.

GEORGE: You are doing what you were saying before. You are making this more complex than it is.


GEORGE: Youíre saying, ĎI understand, but...í and adding some other element there. But you are acknowledging yourself.

ELLA: You sense something, but not entirely the way that you feel comfortable already. So youíre halfway there? I donít know if it works this way.

DANIIL: In Ellaís case, image is the truth, right? (Inaudible) trying to make a certain image and not to protect at all. So oftentimes it helps you to direct. Your thinking about image helps you to make choices that will serve you well.

GEORGE: That IS your guideline.


GEORGE: Youíre already doing it.

ELLA: But in those cases that I notice that I say ĎI should,í then I say to myself ĎI really shouldnít, itís only that I believe that I should.í Then I am helping myself, right?

ELIAS: No. The should and the should-not are the expectations. Those are the obstacles associated with your truths. Those are the discounting elements of your truths. Those are the opposing expressions of your truths.

ELLA: I am saying, me, myself, what am I doing? Not that I should not have an expectation, just accepting myself just the way I am. I donít say that Iím talking a lot, so stop talking. No. Iím just saying, ĎI talk a lot; it comes naturally to me. So what?í Is that...?

ELIAS: Partially, yes. Partially. But in association with other individuals, if that generates conflict or uncomfortableness, there are other choices that you can engage, not merely expressing to yourself the acknowledgment Ďthis is what I do,í but also with the what you expressed Ďso what.í

In that, you generate another element, and in that element you are closing yourself to genuine interaction. In this, you are also setting yourself in a direction to create conflict or distress or disappointment or hurt in relation to how another individual may respond to you in difference. The point is, yes, acknowledge your direction, acknowledge your truth, do not view your truth as bad but recognize that in relation to other individuals you incorporate choices of HOW you express.

ELLA: Iím hearing. Iím not sure I am processing that internally yet.

ELIAS: You will. Cause and effect, also.

CAROLE: So weíre talking about the how and getting to know ourselves, but weíre not going into the why. Weíre not going into why we became that way or why we perceive that we became that way. Weíre simply talking about this is the way we are and weíre acknowledging of it. Weíre also acknowledging the fact that we have other choices...


CAROLE: ...should we discover that this way causes too much conflict for us and a lot of uncomfortableness that weíre becoming aware of, and also why that conflict and uncomfortableness is manifesting in our lives. So itís more of an understanding of ourselves and who we are, kind of a Ďknow thyself,í correct?


CAROLE: Thereís a new method in hypnosis called Part Therapy. In this method they have one self Ė maybe the hypnotist or they teach people to do this themselves Ė talk to the other parts of themselves, the selves that are giving them conflict. My understanding in my way of thinking is that they donít need to find out why these aspects have evolved, because I always think the why is a waste of time. Iím just curious if you concur with that.

ELIAS: Yes, and I would also not be encouraging of that type of action. For in that, you are generating an automatic association that your body consciousness is wrong or that it is creating in opposition to you, and it IS you.

CAROLE: So thatís ascribing the cause to something or someone other than ourselves, and itís always ourselves.

ELIAS: Correct. It is also discounting of your body consciousness, that YOU did not create this, cells created this. An individual that incorporates asthma did not create that; their body consciousness creates that and attacks them. No. The individual that incorporates asthma restricts themselves in some form and generates a physical expression of that in constricting breath. The body consciousness is not attacking; there is no attack. It is an expression that is created in...

CAROLE: Itís an expression of the body consciousness but created by us.

ELIAS: Yes, yes. But you ARE your body consciousness. You cannot separate. You are not a vessel. Your body is not a vessel. It is the physical expression projection of YOU. Therefore, what it does, what it manifests is a reflection of what you are doing. It is a communication. It is an expression of you.

As to not-wastefulness, this is not bad either. It is your guideline. How it generates conflict is the lack of acceptance of differences. For once again, it is so absolute, how can other individuals NOT proceed in this manner? How can other individuals NOT be aware of conservation and the importance of it? Some individuals are not, and that is their guideline. But it is not BAD for you to incorporate your guidelines, and to engage those actions and generate different choices in association with other individuals that allow you to continue in regard to your guideline; but do not generate expectations of the other individual.

As an example, perhaps you may be dining with a friend, and you are dining with this friend in their home. Subsequent to your dinner, you notice that there are many elements of the dinner left and the other individual shall probably discard them. You can express, ĎI shall offer to incorporate them myself.í This allows you to cooperate with you, to cooperate with your guideline, but incorporate no judgment or expectation of the other individual and their guidelines, which are different Ė and that circumvents your distress.

DANIIL: Would it also be a valid method to try? If I am not wasteful all my life, I may wish to be wasteful for one day intentionally just to observe my reactions to that. I remember (inaudible) who were vegetarians in one part of the house where we were consuming meat, and meat-eaters to be vegetarians, etcetera, just to look at yourself from the other side.

ELIAS: Which is merely experimentation. That is an exploration. What we are discussing are truths that are continuously influencing of you.

In that, generally speaking, most of your core truths you incorporate throughout your focus. But you can relax them in a manner that allows you to make different choices and move in easier expressions. It is not that you discard those truths, but that you relax your perception with them and you allow yourself more freedom of other choices.

Just as you (looking at Bill) expressed in the competition, the win or lose, that has not been eliminated. It is being expressed in a different manner in which you allow yourself a perception that all directions win rather than merely yours. It continues to be a truth and it continues to be influencing and expressed, but you are incorporating different choices in which now it does not necessarily entirely concern winning and losing but how all individuals that you encounter can win, which is more effective and generates more comfort and less conflict with you.

BILL: A lot more.

ELIAS: Yes. This is an example that your truths are not the enemy. They are your guidelines, but you also incorporate many, many choices. You merely do not allow yourselves to view or to see your choices, for you move in these absolute, one direction, these-are-the-only-choices: each situation incorporates only one choice; there is only one manner in which each situation can be perceived, for IT IS and there is no more. It is.

JEREMY: Iíd like to offer an example along those lines in relation to the core truth I expressed earlier that I noticed about myself. Iíve been looking at, as weíve discussed, doing these workshops, and the point in my interacting with other individuals is to be noticing my own beliefs and my own movements, my own expressions through those interactions.

Well, I woke up one morning recently and my goal for that day was to be finishing the website so that I could be promoting that a lot more, but instead I ended up talking on the phone for three or four hours. So again, moving to the mundane expression in my talking on the phone, at first within that core truth I was feeling automatically that I was putting other people first and wasnít accomplishing what I wanted to accomplish. But then in noticing my expressing of that truth or that belief, I started to notice, wait a second, I donít have to accomplish in the manner of the website to be moving into these workshops. Because the point is to be interactive, in which case Iím moving in that direction, and not necessarily in my automatic response in viewing that I was putting these other individuals first. That would be not discounting of the individuals or what actually occurred, but discounting my movement and what I was creating. Whereas, it was more beneficial for me to be interactive, which again was the point of what I was looking to do.

ELIAS: (Nodding) Correct.

CAROLE: And you made the phone calls or you answered the phone.


CAROLE: What Iím saying is it was you! It wasnít them; it was you.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you in your noticing and your recognition of that choice, and not necessarily discounting yourself but acknowledging that you were engaging a different choice but continuing in your direction.

JEREMY: Thatís a big difference compared to some of our previous conversations.

ELIAS: I would express agreement, and I am expressing to you congratulations. This is significant movement! (Laughs)

PAUL: Elias, I have a question. You mentioned process, and as we go toward The Shift, we focus more on process and no longer see the goal, necessarily?

ELIAS: You view the goal but it becomes less important.

PAUL: And thatís a good thing?

ELIAS: Yes. Or you may not necessarily actually incorporate a clear view of what the outcome may be, but you do incorporate somewhat of an awareness of the goal, but it becomes less important than the process.

ALICIA: Because the process is now...


ALICIA: ...and the goal is future...


ALICIA: ...and the point is to pay attention now.

ELIAS: And the now is what creates that goal.

DANIIL: So there is a connection between the idea of identifying truths and the idea of process. As you pay attention to what influences you more and more, you are more and more creating in the moment.

ELIAS: Yes, correct.

ELLA: Iím confused. From what Iíve observed, it seems to me that all of us more easily identify the influences of our truths than the underlying truth.


ELLA: Then how could we be a little bit more...?

ELIAS: (Enunciating slowly and extra clearly) PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING. This is the official formula! Ha ha!

ALICIA: I shouldnít raise my hand here Ė Iím going to interrupt!

ELIAS: Ah! (Group applause and laughter) Discounting of yourself!

ALICIA: Did I discount myself?

ELIAS: Yes, in expressing that you should not!

ALICIA: Oh, the dreaded S word! Um... All of this and I forgot what I was going to say! (Group laughter) What did you just say?

ELLA: I said it was easier to identify influences of the truth rather than the truth.

ALICIA: Thank you. When you talk about what youíre doing, I think thatís the part that trips me up. I almost feel like itís another language, even though itís not, in that how I have always assumed the verb Ďto doí is not necessarily the whole spectrum of what you are doing. Doing is talking, but doing also means other things. Sometimes I feel like I donít have the words in my awareness to be able to then label what Iím doing. Do you know what Iím saying? For example, I didnít know until Chicago that discounting was really doing. (25)


ALICIA: But now I know. Now I have that word and association, so now I can notice. Whatís hard for me is to notice what Iím doing when I feel like I donít have the verbal language to attach to it. I feel like I want to broaden my vocabulary in terms of Ďto do.í

ELIAS: It is not a matter of broadening your vocabulary. It is a matter of broadening your awareness of doing, that when you are expressing a discounting, when you are defensive, when you are apprehensive, when you are projecting, when you are anticipating, when you are distressed, when you are pleased, you are DOING. These are all actions that you are also incorporating.

These are the actions, also including your physical actions, that are the indicators as to what type of energy you are projecting, which allows you to recognize what you shall draw to yourself. If you are projecting any type of opposing energy, in all of its forms, you shall draw reflections of that in many different forms.

It also allows you to recognize whether you are cooperating with yourself. Remember, cooperation is NOT teamwork! Cooperation is NOT what other individuals can do to acquiesce to you. Cooperation is what YOU can choose to do to allow yourself to continue in your own direction and to continue with your own guidelines, uninterrupted by other individualsí choices or expressions or behaviors, and not expecting other individuals to change what they express. If you generate different choices in cooperation with yourself, not opposing yourself, it is not necessary for other individuals to change any expression.

ALICIA: One of the things that I noticed when you were talking about projecting, anticipating and everything else Ė which is a kind of form of doing, to observe Ė on the plane over here, it came to my mind and I was jotting down some thoughts that it almost seems like thereís a holding of energy. I donít know if this is true for a lot of people, but even after I noticed that Iím projecting and that now I can make another choice, thereís a part of me that, I wonít say I donít want to make another choice, but that I feel almost like I canít... But itís not that, either. I just feel like Iím holding to that. So then I wondered if thatís because if in that moment I am identifying projection as an enemy, so that somehow creates an opposition...


ALICIA: ...that then makes me hold to it.


ALICIA: Itís like, oh, thatís bad, Iíve got to get rid of that projection!

ELIAS: Yes. And this is also an element, in that you generate so very many associations of what is bad or what you are doing wrong.

CAROLE: Guilt and worry get thrown in there, too, donít they?

ELIAS: Yes, at times.

CAROLE: They stop us. I somehow heard that, with what she was saying. The evil twins.

ELIAS: Waste of energy.

ELLA: But you are saying Ďat times.í Youíre not saying that itís always waste of energy.


ELLA: I thought you always said it is, and now youíre making a distinction?

ELIAS: Guilt and worry? Yes Ė waste of energy. What I am expressing is at times that can be associated with these types of expressions. It is not always associated with guilt or worry.

ALICIA: So the energy would loosen up if I stopped thinking, ĎOh, thatís something bad. I should stop projecting.í


ALICIA: Then naturally I will find another choice.


ALICIA: I think I got it!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well!

VERONICA: Excuse me, Elias? Are you saying the holding of the energy within the body can dissipate once the acknowledgment of fear and of lack of authority or indecisiveness will release itself?


ELLA: I feel it every day.


ELLA: When I notice I tense up for whatever reason, that I project, and then itís okay that I projected, I can feel my muscles loosen up.


ALICIA: It goes back to the acceptance.


ALICIA: What youíre doing is accepting that youíre projecting, as opposed to judging it, which is opposing it. (Elias laughs) Well, that only took me about eighteen months!

VERONICA: Elias, can that be a rapid process?


ALICIA: Not for me!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well, my friends! I express to all of you tremendous acknowledgment, appreciation and friendship. To each of you, I offer my energy in encouragement. To you all, au revoir.Ē [session 1970, April 01, 2006]

RODNEY: ďCould you just make a crystal ball statement?

ELIAS: (Humorously) Myself?

RODNEY: Whatís going to happen in the next few weeks and months?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I may express to you what you may term to be good news.

ELLA: Is the truth wave over?

ELIAS: Not yet, but it is dissipating. It is dissipating, and you are generating movement in strong possibility concerning the next wave, which may be challenging to some and fun to others. That would be, as of this present now, the belief system of sciences.

ELLA: Is there another strong possibility as well?

ELIAS: That is the strongest presently.

ELLA: Will there be interesting scientific breakthroughs that happen?

ELIAS: That is a possibility, or it may actually create significant frustration, dependent upon the openness of the individuals that involve themselves more than others, namely the scientists.

VERONICA: How about doctors and the whole pharmaceutical industry?

ELIAS: That would also be in that category. That would be in association with sciences.

RODNEY: How will this affect us individually?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon you, your direction and your openness. It can be quite inspiring in generating new discoveries, new revelations, new understandings, or it can generate significant trauma. It is dependent upon your openness and your willingness to be engaging differently, which at this point you are somewhat accustomed to engaging differently and perceiving differently. Therefore, you incorporate significant practice in this direction, and in applying that practice, it may be an opportunity for exciting new discoveries.

RODNEY: For us, individually?


VERONICA: Could it extend to discoveries in the electro-magnetic field and crystals and vibration? (Elias nods in agreement) Yes? Wonderful.

RODNEY: Will I be able to predict the winning lottery ticket?

ELIAS: Ha ha! That is not a scientific action! (Rodney laughs) That is an intuitional action. (Laughs) You can engage your sciences quite extensively and I may express to you it will likely not bring you any closer to predicting your lottery!

DANIIL: ... Usually there is a connection between the subject of discussion during public sessions and the wave that is going on. Is there a connection between this subject of thinking and the scientific wave?

ELIAS: There is an association between thought and the wave concerning your sciences, not necessarily directly in relation to the repetition of thought but thought itself as a mechanism, and how it is viewed and how it is defined as a function and how that function is created not necessarily in association with your physical brain.

DANIIL: Would that be an explanation of this new wave, that I would observe something that I have no explanation for? The automatic response may be to struggle in the usual way, but would it be more beneficial to pause and somehow re-align my thinking to accept something that I have no explanation for?

ELIAS: Or merely to recognize that you incorporate no explanation and that that is acceptable, that eventually you may present yourself with an explanation that is unexpected.

RODNEY: You talk about science, and the most fundamental concept in science is that if you perform the same experiment many, many times in many different places by many different people, you begin to get the same results. In other words, the reality repeats itself under the same conditions.

Weíve talked about impressions, intuition, projection of consciousness, dreams, and none of these have any home in what is currently called science in our general culture. So Iím really curious.

ELIAS: Ah, but they are beginning to.

RODNEY: Is this what this wave in science is going to do?

ELIAS: That has already begun. It shall enhance it, but that movement has already begun.

RODNEY: The incorporation of dreams and so forth...


RODNEY: ...into a scientific context?


ELLA: I think it was always happening. It just was not documented that the way to discover something is to dream about it. Sometimes you go to bed and somehow in the dream state you solve it.

RODNEY: Iím not referring to that aspect of it.

ELIAS: Correct, I am understanding.

RODNEY: Iím talking about hard science, what is...

ELLA: Using it as methodology?

RODNEY: Right. But what is it? How can you repeat an intuitive...?

ELIAS: Yes, that has already begun, but it shall be enhanced...

RODNEY: It hasnít been widely reported, then.

ELIAS: That would be a relative statement, for within the scientific community it is more widely expressed and there is an awareness and an incorporation of an exploration of these...

RODNEY: I would sense that thatís true, but it hasnít been formally put forth in scientific journals.

PARTICIPANT: There is a book called ďEntangled MindsĒ (26) which (inaudible).

VERONICA: Elias, would thought be coupled with technology?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

VERONICA: In scientific communities, recognized within the scientific community and the medical community that the functioning of the mind... Could it be recorded by machinery?

ELIAS: The association with the function of thought is being questioned and shall continue to be questioned more intensely to be discovering what the actual function of thought is and what drives that, what engineers it, rather than merely the functioning of the brain. For, thought is not merely generated by the functioning of your physical brain.

RODNEY: This brings up the question of consciousness, because a very large segment of scientific research, and Iím thinking particularly of the pharmaceutical industry, treats animals, and consciousness does not exist in animals. Is this wave in science going to put some support to the very concept of consciousness...


RODNEY: opposed to brain activity?


NATASHA: So our sessions now become science sessions!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It may be possible.

RODNEY: Is this going to become public?

ELIAS: The entirety of your world is participating in this wave and in this shift. The entirety of your world participates in this shift in every aspect of it and in every wave that is generated. You participate in different manners but you are all participating. In that, yes, it shall be generating more public attention, for new discoveries shall warrant that public attention.

RODNEY: Can there be a scientific demonstration that is acceptable to most people that consciousness is an energy that truly exists?

ELIAS: That is what you shall be discovering! That is the direction that you are moving within. That is the desire in association with this shift in consciousness, to be discovering what you can in relation to the nature of consciousness and how it is expressed, and the mechanics of yourselves and all of your reality, in how you are manifest and how you function and what you do and how consciousness is expressed. The absolutes that were once are being questioned.

RODNEY: Will this give us some new methodologies?

ELIAS: Quite!

VERONICA: Will this be recognized by different branches of the government?


PARTICIPANT: So the entire planet will move into a higher level of knowing, will access knowledge that wasnít available before?

ELIAS: This is the point of this shift; this is what you are doing already. You are expanding your awareness. You are widening. You incorporate much greater understanding now than you did within ten of your years previous. You incorporate a tremendously greater capacity of understanding and knowing now than you did within your previous century. You are expanding in a much more rapid manner now than you were in your previous century, and you were expanding quite rapidly then.

Now you are moving even more at an accelerated pace, for you are becoming more aware and you are questioning and you are becoming self aware and generating greater understanding of yourselves, which offers you a greater capacity for understanding of your world.

PARTICIPANT: Is the conflict that we all see around the world right now, is that a manifestation of the wave of truth?


PARTICIPANT: As the wave of truth is diminishing, can we expect to see some of these conflicts settle down?

ELIAS: That is variable, for although this wave addressing to truths is dissipating, it has instigated tremendous recognitions of absolutes. It has sparked the expression of absolutes. Therefore, it is possible that within a relative short time framework these actions in oppositions may dissipate, but it is also possible that it may incorporate some time framework to recognize that these are actually not absolutes in individualís philosophies.

Look to your own experiences in this wave and how long this particular wave has been generated in strength and how much time each of you yourselves in seeking information have incorporated to discover your own absolutes. Many individuals are not seeking information. They are being presented with it, but they are not necessarily seeking it.

This is the reason that from the onset of this forum I have expressed that the purpose of my interaction with all of you is to lessen trauma; but I have expressed from the onset there WILL BE trauma associated with this shift, and there is.

ELLA: So even though the truth wave is dissipating, the mass events that are already in motion will continue and the individuals still will be dealing with their own issues related to absolutes, even though the wave of truth is dissipating. Certain events are already in motion...

ELIAS: Correct.

ELLA: ...and one will still have to address that wave.

ELIAS: Correct, but you address in different manners. Some individuals or groups of individuals choose to address in aggression.

RODNEY: ... On science, youíve presented this information to us in a manner that is quite different than how youíve done it in the past.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: In the past youíve said there is a wave in truth and this is what you need to look out for, this is what is being developed, this is how you can help yourself, this is how you can process, this is how you can work with it. Youíre not doing that this time.

ELIAS: (Grinning) You are correct.

RODNEY: What youíre saying is weíre going to become aware of things.


RODNEY: Youíve really changed course here! (Elias chuckles) Will you be discussing this...


RODNEY: ...further in our next group session?

ELIAS: That is dependent upon whether you have actually engaged it or not. You have not engaged it yet.

RODNEY: When should I be looking for it?

ELIAS: That is dependent upon you.

RODNEY: Where shall I look for the engagement?

ELIAS: I shall express to you the identification of it. I shall generate what you would term to be the announcement of the engagement of that wave when it begins. It has not begun yet. Therefore, there is a variable and there is a possibility that you collectively can alter course, so to speak, and choose a different belief system.

I am expressing to you now the identification of the movement that you are engaging now. In the probabilities and the possibilities that you are expressing now, this is the greatest potential of being the next wave in consciousness that you engage. If you choose that, or when you choose that, I shall address to it with you.

I am offering you an inspiration! You have endured, in your terms, more than three of your years in struggle with your wave addressing to truths. I am offering an inspiration to you in a new direction of movement.

ELLA: Do we have to go through every individual wave to complete the Shift? Isnít there a shortcut?

ELIAS: This would be your design! (Chuckles)

ELLA: What waves were there before the truth wave?

GROUP: Relationships, duplicity...

ELIAS: Perhaps you shall discover (laughs), and perhaps this shall be another avenue for you to engage in offering yourself information rather than repeat!

Very well, my friends! I shall express to each of you my appreciation of the intimacy of this group interaction and the comfort of it. And in this, an acknowledgment to each of you in the contribution of unique energy in this particular discussion. Therefore, I shall offer my thanks to each of you in your participation in this session.

To each of you in tremendous appreciation, great friendship and ultimate encouragement in your new adventures and your stopping of your thinking, thinking, thinking (chuckles), but the new inspiring thinking, to you all, my friends, au revoir.

GROUP: Au revoir.Ē [session 2049, July 22, 2006]

ELIAS: ďGood afternoon!

GROUP: Good afternoon!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) As I am aware that you are anxious to be receiving the information of the new wave in consciousness that is beginning, and in usual form of yourselves, I may express that perhaps you have surprised yourselves once again. You have NOT chosen science as your current wave. You have chosen collectively perception, which in actuality is an adequate follower to your wave addressing to truths, for you have already set the foundation with that wave to be addressing to this wave. Therefore, this wave may in actuality be somewhat easier for you to begin, for you have already been engaging information regarding perception. You have already offered yourselves experiences to identify differences in perceptions and to be more aware of the strength of your own individual perceptions, how that colors and influences yourself and how you view your world.

Now; this wave, as you may be aware, is orchestrated by the essence family of Tumold.

Now; unlike other waves in consciousness Ė which generally the orchestrating family, those individuals belonging to or aligning with that family, experience more of an intensity in relation to the particular wave than other individuals belonging to and aligning with other families do Ė this particular wave differs, for in association with being orchestrated by the Tumold family, this lends an energy to all of you in supportiveness.

Rather than the individuals belonging to or aligning with Tumold incorporating more difficulty or challenges in relation to this wave, they actually will be more helpful, and may even experience less challenge than other individuals in expressing their qualities of this family, in recognition of difference and generating an acceptance of that, merely in their being. Therefore, the individuals that are associated with this particular family in this particular wave may be considerably helpful with themselves and with all other individuals in the movement of this wave.

I may also express to you, as you have generated such a foundation with your previous wave addressing to truths Ė which involved some elements of perception Ė this particular wave is likely to not be long ongoing.

Now; that is a likelihood, not an absolute. But as you are moving presently, and in the widening of awareness that you are generating presently and the awareness of perception that you incorporate presently, there is a likelihood that this particular wave will not be ongoing, which will allow you to move into your next wave. And perhaps in that moment you will choose your science wave, but that remains to be seen! (Laughs)

Now; in this particular discussion, I shall address to all of you. What do each of you view presently as a significantly important issue or struggle or confusion that you may be incorporating presently? I shall open to you.

ELLA: As a common issue, or individually?

ELIAS: Individually, for what you experience individually is also being experienced en masse.

ELLA: At the beginning of your initial dialogue, I was thinking to myself that thatís what Iíve been doing for the past at least six months, probably more, changing my perception, and thatís been challenging. To change your perception, you first have to identify your underlying perception, meaning you have to identify a belief with which you hold so strongly you donít even realize that you view it as unchangeable fact.

ELIAS: Correct.

ELLA: (Inaudible) I didnít realize that maybe I was in a way preparing for this wave, but it resonated very strongly with me.

One of the beliefs that I recently identified was that I have a fear of money, because I have a very clear (inaudible) but I have a clear equation that says money equals power equals corruption. Once I saw that, I said wait a minute, it doesnít have to be this way. So I am changing my perception of it now. I brought into my reality a challenge, which I donít perceive as a negative challenge but more like an adventure/excitement type of a challenge, to be participating in a home business or at least to try to do this, and in that, allow myself to get out of my personal space where Iím guarding against that (inaudible) and realize the fact that having money doesnít necessarily make you a corrupt person by definition.

ELIAS: Correct. That is a strong perception of many individuals, that money can be corruptive. Even if individuals do not generate that association, they may generate associations that money is bad or that wanting money is bad.

ELLA: I have that also. Another one, I donít know if somehow the answer will present itself to me directly or indirectly. I still donít understand. I guess Iím holding to a belief that one person participating in a life with another person has a certain responsibility toward that other person, and so it makes it very difficult for me to make the distinction (inaudible). If I would abandon a person that needs me (inaudible).

ELIAS: How you perceive yourself is also very challenging or can be very challenging in relation to other individuals, for this also is a very strong expression associated with perception: how you perceive that other individuals perceive you, and in that, how you want other individuals to perceive you, and how it can be threatening to you if you are receiving information from other individuals that they perceive you differently than you perceive yourself. That can be quite disturbing to many individuals.

For, you incorporate a perception of yourself; you view yourself in certain manners. You view yourself and perceive yourself in relation to your guidelines, and within yourself, your guidelines are good. Therefore, as you follow your guidelines, if another individual expresses differently and does not value the same expressions that you value, that can become threatening, for that informs you that they view you differently than you view yourself.

For the most part, most individuals want other individuals to view them the same as they view themself. If the other individual does not, you generate another association that the other individual does not know you or does not see you clearly. Therefore, their perception of you, in your perception, is distorted, and that influences you to strive harder to convince the other individual of your perception and therefore create that sameness which allows you to feel that you are seen, and seen correctly. In this, that may many times influence you to generate certain actions or choices that you may not necessarily want to engage, or that may be compromising of yourself, to accommodate other individuals and to influence their perceptions to match your perception of yourself.

As an example, an individual may perceive themself to be a good individual, a kind individual, and they may be influenced in some situations and interactions to generate choices and actions, in a manner of speaking, to prove that they are a kind and good individual to another individual. Therefore, they may generate certain actions or certain choices that they themselves may be hesitant to engage, but that hesitation will be overridden by your want to be viewed by other individuals in the same manner that you perceive yourself. In a manner of speaking, they are actions that you engage to prove to yourself that you are a good and kind individual.

Generally speaking, the actions and the choices that you engage to generate that type of expression are surface actions. They are offerings to other individuals. They may be an offering of finances to another individual; they may be an offering of helpfulness, of time, of attention. There are many different expressions that you can offer to another individual to allow yourself to perceive yourself as kind and good, and therefore, the cycle perpetuates.

When you allow yourself to stop and question yourself, question your motivation: ĎWhat is motivating me to engage this interaction? What is motivating me to engage this choice? Am I engaging this choice to present myself as good, or am I generating this choice for I genuinely want to engage this choice and it matters not how other individuals perceive me in light of this choice?í That is a matter of altering your perception through the action of questioning yourself and questioning your motivation for what you are actually doing.


LYNDA: The first thing I wanted to tell you Ė before I tell you what Iím going to tell you Ė is that doing it freely feels free. The feel of ignoring the hesitation feels totally different to me, because I just did it this morning. Itís a clear distinction from last night to this morning in a couple of choices I made, that when I really noticed my motivation for making the choice and it didnít feel right, I let it go. In the morning I made the exact same action, but I did it out of a totally different motivation. So to me, the bottom line is feeling, correct?


LYNDA: For me, the indicator is the feeling of the difference of the energy, thick or thin.


DONNA: ... Elias, I have a question. Will this new wave be another wave that we will be experiencing the concepts as opposed to intellectually understanding them?


GAIL: I can totally relate to everything that you were saying about the personal scenario. Iím finding that whatever Iím giving out or I feel that Iím doing is truly what I want to do for myself. I find that way harder than doing it for someone else. Thatís the statement.

ELIAS: Yes, and most individuals would express a camaraderie with you in that, for you are accustomed to expressing outwardly. You are accustomed to paying attention to other individuals and placing other individuals above yourself or before yourself. This is in actuality associated with religious beliefs of being less than Ė the individual is less than. There is always some expression that is greater than the individual.

That is one of the most significant challenges of this shift. One of the largest elements of shifting is placing the significance and the importance of the individual first. Therefore, what you are doing is reversing what is familiar to you. Rather than placing yourself, as the individual, as less than or second to any other expression within your world and within your reality, you are shifting to be self-directing and to be placing yourself in the position of first.

GAIL: I truly want to be in that position, but a lot of times I think thatís so selfish, thatís so self-centered, thatís so bad. Itís very easy for me to do it outwardly because Iíve been doing it all my life.

But now since Iíve been doing this empathic reading for people, I draw people to me that are in those intense scenarios and I think, ĎSay something! Do something!í and then I turn around and go, ĎListen to yourself! Do something! Say something!í So Iím verbalizing it more and more, and each time I verbalize it I make a small amount of movement. But itís ingrained so deeply that Iím constantly fighting to get out and say, ĎHey, I want this! No, I donít want this.í Itís a constant struggle. Even though I see it, to create the action on a regular basis is very difficult.


GAIL: Itís so ingrained.

ELIAS: Yes, and it is a struggle, for not only do you perceive that paying attention to yourself or nurturing yourself is selfish and therefore bad, but also that it is perceived as arrogant. Therefore, that once again triggers that automatic association of concern in relation to what other individuals will perceive and how they will perceive you.

Now; another difficulty or challenge in this movement of altering perception and directing yourself and listening to yourself first Ė other than being very unfamiliar Ė in association with your guidelines you want to be right. You want to express in right manner. Therefore, that is a factor that becomes involved in your motivation, for you are questioning yourselves what is the right action to incorporate.

It becomes confusing, for as you have swung the pendulum so far in one direction of discounting yourselves and of placing yourselves beneath or behind, the action of considering yourselves is so unfamiliar that what you begin to generate is somewhat of a false assertion. You begin to assert yourselves for this is what your sciences of psychology express, that it is a matter of not paying attention to other individuals but asserting yourself in all that you do. This can become very confusing and conflicting. For in association with your psychology, that is an encouragement to you to merely project outward with little or no regard to what you actually want or your own guidelines, and with little or no regard to differences but merely to be continuously expressing you.

That many times creates conflicts also, for in doing so, you begin to generate this perception that you must force your energy outwardly. You must generate an action of forcing other individuals to see you, to hear you, for you generate this perception that you have become a shadow and that you are unseen and unheard and unimportant, for you have not generated that nurturing with yourself. Therefore, you perceive there to be a void.

In that void, you attempt to fill the void with the assertiveness, but that is a surface action and it does not accomplish what you want. In actuality, it creates more conflict and more frustration, for you begin to recognize that you are actually not accomplishing what you want to accomplish. You are not actually expressing yourself in the manner that you want, for you are forcing energy. You are not actually expressing a gentleness with yourselves and therefore allowing yourselves to perceive yourselves as a good and nice and gentle and kind individual, a loving individual.

For the most part, this is what most of you want to project of yourselves, and for the most part you do, but you do not credit yourselves with that expression. What you see is your shortcomings or the expressions that do not accomplish what you want to accomplish. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you override yourself and begin to assert yourself, which forces energy, which conflicts you, and generally speaking will generate a reflection through other individuals of conflict or frustration.

Now; a key element in relation to perception is recognizing, first of all, that your perception is valid. It is real and it is valid, and that in many areas of your perception, it is absolute Ė and that is not bad and it is also not changing. Your guidelines individually are not changing, and there are elements or aspects of your guidelines that are very absolute to each of you. What is changing is the recognition that they are absolute to YOU but not necessarily to other individuals, that other individuals may express different absolutes.

What becomes difficult is you viewing yourself, interacting with other individuals, receiving the reflection, seeing that the reflection is different from how you perceive yourself, and not reacting to it. That is the challenge, recognizing the validity and the reality of other individualsí perceptions of you that may be very different from your perception of you, and recognizing that that does not invalidate your perception of you, that it is real and that regardless of how another individual perceives you, rather than automatically viewing that as bad, that it is merely a different shade of you.

RODNEY: This is following up on this. Instead of projecting myself outwardly and being totally assertive, Iíve been saying no to a lot of people who would have me engage in certain activities or certain conversations, etcetera, and Iíve been successful in saying no in a gentle way. I find that I now have to cope with their new perception of me. Thatís another aspect of what youíre talking about.


RODNEY: Frequently it seems to me I have to put myself in a position of being unsociable or not interested in what theyíre talking about, when in fact I really am. Itís just that in my assessment the conversation is not going to benefit me, so why should I go along with it? So Iím now learning to cope with other peopleís new perception of who they thought I was.

ELIAS: Precisely.

RODNEY: Thatís another aspect of whatís going on here.

ELIAS: Yes, for that can also initially be threatening, for it is different from your perception of yourself.

As an example, as you are widening your awareness and you are becoming more and more directing of yourselves, other individuals that you interact with that may not necessarily be offering themselves information in the same manner as are you may be expressing their absolutes in relation to you. In that, they may be expressing their perception of you in terms of you are less sensitive, you are less cooperative, you are less attentive...

RODNEY: And many others.

ELIAS: Yes, or you are less considerate. But there is also somewhat of a paradox in what occurs. As other individuals notice alterations in each of you, they filter that through their guidelines. Therefore, there are automatic associations that they generate. But they also are drawn to how you are expressing, for they are drawn to the example of directing yourself and not allowing yourself to deviate from your course. Therefore, there are two expressions that occur, but the one that appears to be the most obvious to you is the one that appears to be discounting of you or what you view as negative. This is one of the snares of differences and personalizing.

When we discussed core truths, I expressed to all of you that two of the automatic associations that accompany your core truths, if they are triggered, are personalizing and expectations. They are automatic responses; you immediately express them. This is not to say that you will not continue to express some moments of personalizing or of expectations of other individuals that they should know, but they become more and more brief and you more and more quickly recognize what you are expressing.

Once identifying, ĎAh! I am experiencing that personalizing; I am generating this expectation of the other individual,í it dissipates and it does not continue to influence you, unless you oppose it. If you are merely acknowledging yourself, ĎI recognize in this moment I experienced personalizing this interaction with this other individual. In this moment, I recognize that I incorporated an automatic response of expecting the other individual to express differently,í once recognizing and acknowledging that, it dissipates immediately.

If you oppose it and oppose yourself, and express to yourself, ĎI should not be expressing this any longer. I should know better. I should have enough awareness now that I should not be expressing this automatic response ever again,í that is the same expression as attempting to eliminate beliefs, and you are not eliminating beliefs. You are not changing them; you are not eliminating them. They are, they are present, and they are an element of your reality, of your blueprint. You are not changing your guidelines, you are not eliminating your guidelines, and you are not generating them as being less absolute Ė they are, to you.

BILL: Elias? Youíre talking about this wave of perception. Iíve been noticing personally, in going into some of the forums, how critically important our use of language is. Perception, before I came across you, I understood as something I take in. As I understand you using Ďperception,í perception is basically what we use to project outward.

ELIAS: It is both. It is how you filter information and it is how you project outwardly and create reality.

BILL: So you can use the word Ďunderstandingí almost interchangeably with the taking-in part of perception?

ELIAS: Somewhat, for you can input information that you may not necessarily initially understand, and that will also influence what you project outwardly. Therefore, understanding is not necessarily a requirement. It can be associated with what you input to yourself, but not entirely.

For there are many elements of information that you input to yourself, even in interactions with other individuals. You may encounter another individual that expresses such difference from yourself that you genuinely do not understand their expression or their perception, and you do not understand the possibility of their perspective. But you are inputting that information to yourself regardless, whether you understand it or not, and it is influencing of your perception and what you project outwardly and create in your reality. Many times what you do not understand influences you to generate stronger absolutes.

BILL: And the understanding comes through thoughtís interpretation of it?

ELIAS: It can.

BILL: Or you could just get the feeling of knowing?


BILL: But thought plays a part in the understanding, or it can play a part?

ELIAS: It can, yes. It is dependent upon your attention.

BILL: So youíre using perception as input and output?


BILL: And the input not necessarily with understanding?

ELIAS: Correct.

CARL: Itís like if you listen to a foreign language, youíre inputting it but you donít understand it.

ELIAS: Correct. Precisely.

ELLA: Elias, what is personalizing? I would like to understand exactly what you mean when you say that.

ELIAS: Personalizing is an action that you incorporate in which you place responsibility upon yourself for the action or expression of another individual.

CAROLE: Elias, every time I start to think of something, you start talking about it immediately after, and itís blowing my mind! (Elias laughs)

Iím sitting here thinking I canít stop seeing a correlative between what weíre talking about and personal responsibility. There is only a very small group of people that I feel that personal responsibility for in this particular physical existence. I donít have a problem at all with the world at large, really, in how they view me. But thatís how it feels to me; maybe someone else might see me differently.

For instance, today I had a choice between coming here and being the good little girl and going to a funeral. Somebody just died in town. My husband is going to work outside, stop his work, go to the funeral, go to the grave and come back. I said to him, ĎBob, are you sure you want to do this? You donít know those people that well. People are going to keep dying. Iím not going to go to all these wakes and funerals. If you want to, you can.í

But I understand that he has much more of a need to be thought of as good, and I donít. Part of it, in my perception, is that Ďgoodí wasnít necessarily touted in my family; Ďbadí was. If you were bad, you were worth more; if you were good, you werenít, and you were positive and church lady and all that. I donít know if that plays into it, but I donít have that need to be thought of as good and my husband does.

I said to him, ĎYouíre really going to lay up a lot of points when you die. Everybodyís going to come because youíve been to so many of these things.í I really donít care; just throw my ashes in the Sound and thatís it. He understood and picked up on what I was saying. He said, ĎNo, no, I donít really care who comes to my wake or who comes to my funeral. I just feel like I should go.í I said, ĎWell, okay, but Iím not going. Iím going to go up to Vermont, and Iím going to see Mary and Lynda and have an Elias session.í

But the personal responsibility thing that I get stuck on personally and where I will always try to do whatever I think is going to help the other person is with my kids. That is just a whole different ballgame for me. I know that Mary has a similar situation, because Elias mentioned that once. Itís very strong in me and I try to push against it, not to always be doing that, but thatís where I get stuck. I think that people maybe have one more than the other, either the good/bad routine or the right/wrong routine, that is more who they are and whatís important to them.

This morning I was thinking to myself about perception as I was looking out the window. I was thinking the common perception would be that this is a beautiful view out here, and itís only a perception. I could be sitting in this chair and have the perception that a wooden chair with a hard bottom is terrible or I could be sitting in this big velvet queenly chair with a high top and robes coming down it and have the perception that itís good. Itís really all my perception. I freak on that sometimes, how much everything is perception.

ELIAS: Which it is, but it is very real.

CAROLE: It is real, but I have a tendency maybe to go into la-la land more easily than some people. I think itís just a perception and itís not bad. So I am enjoying this because Iím liking it, even though the common perception is that this is not something that should be enjoyed.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ELLA: Could you possibly get back to personalizing? You started talking about taking responsibility for actions of others or their lives...

ELIAS: No. It is placing the responsibility upon yourself in relation to the actions and the choices and expressions of other individuals. Such as, you may be interacting with another individual and the other individual may express in a manner as ĎI am very annoyed presently and I am frustrated, and you are not being helpful in this situation.í

Now; in personalizing that interaction, you would automatically assume responsibility for the other individualís expression and express within yourself, ĎIt is my fault that the other individual is annoyed. It is my responsibility, and therefore it is also my responsibility to alter what the other individual is expressing.í Or it may be [that] you may not necessarily be interacting with another individual. You may be generating your own movement, and you may encounter another individual in the same space arrangement that may express to you, ĎThere is such noise occurring that I am experiencing difficulty concentrating.í In personalizing, you would automatically incorporate the other individualís statement and express within yourself, ĎI am generating too much noise and am irritating of the other individual,í regardless of whether you are incorporating any noise or not.

ELLA: Immediately you involve this feeling of guilt, right?

ELIAS: Yes, and responsibility that you are the cause of the other individualís expression.

ELLA: So if you acknowledge it in that moment without saying I should or shouldnít, you might be able to distance yourself from that feeling?

ELIAS: And also evaluate within yourself are you actually participating, are you actually involved in what the other individual is expressing.

CAROLE: But donít you feel obligated to fix it, too?

ELIAS: In association with personalizing, yes, for you generate that responsibility. You feel responsible for the other individualís expression, and therefore, yes, you urge yourself to fix it to rectify the situation, for it is your fault initially, regardless. Therefore, if it is your fault, you also incorporate the obligation to alter the situation.

This is the reason that it is important to pay attention to yourself and allow yourself to evaluate what are you actually doing. Are you actually participating? Is this the expression of the other individual and does it actually involve you, or do you want to be involved?

ELLA: Your examples are very carefully worded, because both experiences were impersonal. In both examples, the individual did not say, ĎYou are causing this.í But what if you are in the situation where the individual actually says you are creating noise? You would probably feel guilty anyway because this is a direct interaction where they are asking you for some action.

ELIAS: Very well. In the scenario in which the individual confronts you and expressed to you, ĎYou are generating too much noise,í you can generate that automatic personalizing and you shall express a type of guilt and beholden to the other individual, and subsequently you shall attempt to rectify the situation. Or you can stop and evaluate whether you are actually generating too much noise and evaluate whether you are actually engaging an action that is intended to annoy the other individual. If not, you can evaluate the difference in perception.

You may actually engage a similar physical action of quieting yourself, but the motivation may be very different. For you may accept what the other individual is expressing and choose to be generating the action of quieting yourself or your actions, but also recognizing that the other individual may be expressing a very different perception from your own.

ELLA: And you also donít have to feel guilty about it?

ELIAS: Correct, and therefore acknowledging yourself, generating a choice in relation to what you want rather than being responsible for other individualsí expressions and incorporating guilt and discounting of yourself in relation to the expressions of other individuals.

ELLA: Thatís very helpful, and I will think about it because that applies to me in some cases. But the question in my mind, first of all... I donít even know that Iím going to present that itís also personalizing, but thatís what is very difficult for me to resolve so far. Another individual is engaged in some self-destructive action. While I choose to participate, obviously, even though itís not always on my mind, the other individual is being self-destructive. I donít mind that, thatís their choice, but I also recognize that I do project. A short while ago, the individual engaged the same action, and it took a lot of effort for me to help rectify it because we are connected. What I feel is that that individual being negligent to themselves put me in the situation where I have to run like a chicken without a head and try to help that individual to get back on track.

I donít enjoy to watch somebody suffering; it can really give me a lot of unpleasant emotions. So I start saying, ĎDo that, please do that, otherwise that will happen.í I realize that I project, and I understand. But itís very difficult not to, because itís so fresh in my memory; it just occurred. I feel Iím personalizing, because I am taking responsibility that I have to remember that that individual has to do A, B and C; I donít! But I cannot stop doing that.

ELIAS: That is personal responsibility. That is different.

JOHN: Iíd like to make a comment. I think what youíre talking about is (inaudible) to what I experienced (inaudible) making noise. We moved into a new place and have a new house with a porch. The landscapers took a bunch of bushes away, and the noise and sound carries really quickly. I was out about 10:00 talking on the telephone. It turns out our neighborís bedroom is on the other side of the porch, and he became agitated by (inaudible). I wanted to be a good neighbor and (inaudible).

What I think youíre talking about is this whole dichotomy between compromise and cooperation, and I still donít understand cooperation. I have not experienced and done it in the way that you defined it and explained it many times.

ELLA: Maybe it would be helpful for us to define the difference between personalization and personal responsibility. Even though (inaudible) are meaning similar in my mind, you are saying different actions are involved. I would like to divorce myself from that action really badly. It really gets on my nerves.

ELIAS: Personal responsibility is the perception that you must be fixing or directing another individual, that you must be instructing another individual.

ELLA: For self-preservation. That is my motive, I understand. For me the difficulty is that all the time I think that I am doing it for selfish needs! I need it! I donít care what he is doing. I need it because it really affects me, and I donít want it to affect me. Thatís an action. How do I sever that? What do I tell myself when Iím looking at him and see that heís doing it again?

ELIAS: Incorporate precisely that action: divorce yourself from the action. Do not involve yourself in the action.

If you are participating with another individual and you are generating considerable discomfort in that interaction, you are expressing that as a message to yourself. It is a communication to yourself. That discomfort is expressing a communication that you are generating some action that is contrary to your own guidelines and your own preferences. That can be expressed in varying degrees. At times it can be expressed quite extremely.

In that, it is a matter of generating the choice of whether to participate, whether to continue to participate in certain interactions with another individual or not. As you continue to participate regardless of the discomfort and the communication that is expressing to you that you do not want to be participating for this is contrary to your guidelines and your preferences, you are incorporating personal responsibility for the other individual.

In that, you are discounting yourself and you are discounting the other individual. You are generating the camouflage of elevating yourself, that you know better. You know more, you know better, you have more effective and efficient methods to be incorporated than the other individual. Therefore, obviously you are discounting the other individual, that they are not creating their reality well enough. But you are also discounting yourself, for you are not listening to your own guidelines and your own preferences, and you are generating opposing energy with yourself. Therefore, you discount yourself also.

In these situations in which you incorporate personal responsibility for other individuals, what you do is you create hurtfulness to yourself and to the other individual, and conflict. The conflict can be expressed in many different manners. You express opposing energy. Although you generate the association that you are being helpful, you are actually generating an opposing energy, which is not helpful.

ELLA: I have started to recognize it. In some situations I can feel that Iím moving, but this one... At times it feels that Iím also being helpful in a real way when I let other individuals do exactly what they want in whichever way they choose. But then it blows up in my face, so probably there are other underground processes that I donít evaluate. Letís say everything is perfect on the surface. That still doesnít mean that possibly the intent of what I project is still in the way, as you said...


ELLA: ...that I know better or that I donít necessarily approve of that other individual. I donít fully accept, so it builds up and eventually it erupts in some sort of an accident, and then I think I donít protect myself in self-preservation.

ELIAS: Yes, and that is the action of placing the energy in the container that we have spoken of previously several times. Once the container fills, you turn and match all of that energy in one event, which becomes overwhelming and quite conflicting and generally quite uncomfortable.

ELLA: That all makes perfect sense. I just wanted to understand terminology-wise what is personalizing, not to resolve the situation but to understand what youíre saying.


As to compromise or cooperation, cooperation is not teamwork. Cooperation is an action that you generate within yourself. It is an action that you incorporate, in a manner of speaking, to honor yourself. It is an action of not opposing yourself. Compromise is an opposing energy. There is always expectation associated with compromise in some manner.

In association with generating interactions with other individuals such as you have expressed, that they be disturbing, it is not a matter of instructing the other individual and it may not necessarily be a matter of requesting a behavior from another individual, but being genuine within yourself and allowing yourself to express you and your preference without discounting the other individual, which may generate a more peaceful environment. (Laughs)

JOHN: Just like you, I can see that the wave in perception, the heart of it is a sense of cooperation generating from self and oneís own choices, and sticking with oneís own perception and self-image regardless of how it might be perceived.


JOHN: Cooperation helps to remove the issue.


DANIIL: In the example of creating noise, letís say compromise would be lowering your noise a little bit to satisfy another individual but still thinking that you have your right to create that noise and the other individual can make that request and you can lower it for that reason. Cooperation would be maybe going into another room or putting on headphones so that you can continue your action and the other individual can continue his.

ELIAS: That is dependent upon your motivation, for it may not be an expression of compromise. As I have expressed, the outcome that you choose in such a scenario may be the same, but it may be motivated by different expressions.

One motivation may be associated with personalizing and viewing yourself to be at fault for the other individualís situation or expression, and therefore you may choose to soften your expression of noise. Or you may recognize the difference of the other individualís perception, you may acknowledge that your perception is different also, and you may choose the same outcome, not in association with fault or guilt but as your own choice in what you want to engage. Therefore, that would not necessarily be an action of compromising.

For in compromising, there is an expectation. There is an expectation of yourself and there is an expectation of a return from the other individual. If you engage one action in compromise with another individual, you expect that the other individual will express a return in relation to what you express. Therefore, in your terms of niceties, it would be a situation of give and take.

RODNEY: Tit for tat.

ELIAS: Yes. But it is an opposing energy of expectations, and it discounts you and the other individual, for you do not acknowledge yourself and your expression. You devalue that to generate that compromise with another individual. You shall partially express if they partially express or vice versa. If they partially express, you shall also partially express.

RODNEY: Elias, I have a question. You (inaudible) upon perception to be the mechanism by which we create our reality.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: My perception of our discussion here is that itís all involved with interpersonal relationships.

ELIAS: For that is what you are discussing, basically.

RODNEY: This wave in consciousness, which youíve labeled perception, Iíve had the experience of gazing at a picture, defocusing my attention and recreating a totally different picture. Iíve discussed this with you, and you said yes, youíve changed the ink, you changed everything, and the new picture really is there in physical reality. Would you talk about that aspect of this wave in consciousness you call perception?

ELIAS: These types of experiences will not be unusual, for perception is the mechanism that creates your reality. It is closely associated with your beliefs and it is closely with your attention. But in that, all that you create is a projection of your perception, and you can change any of your reality in relation to your perception. What is only as it is perceived.

RODNEY: Will this wave enhance...


RODNEY: ...our ability to be aware of how we manipulate our perception to create what we want...


RODNEY: ...and in addition to that, to see things that we donít see now?


RODNEY: I read the lists and I see that individuals are seeing things and getting information, which I find would be difficult for me to do. If thereís a ghost sitting on the end of the counter here, thereís somebody here who might be able to see that. I wouldnít say Iíve never, but it would be not typical for me to see that image.

ELIAS: But you see me. (Group laughter)

RODNEY: I knew you were going to say that!

ELIAS: (Laughs loudly) Of course. I am understanding what you are expressing, and yes, you are correct. For in this exploration and examination of this wave addressing to perception, it can be another step in widening your awareness and allowing you to incorporate your senses in different manners, which will also influence your perception and what you create with it, for another factor closely associated with perception are all of your avenues of communication. Some of your strongest avenues of communications are your senses, which are continuously inputting information.

In this, dependent upon your attention and how you are moving your attention, that can be very influencing in altering your perception and allowing you to manipulate it in different manners in which you can create different types of manifestations such as your painting or (to Carole) the chair. Recognizing that your perception is flexible, that it is not as rigid as you may have previously associated with and that it can create much more than you have allowed yourself to generate pastly, you can actually be sitting within your wooden chair and transform that chair into your throne and generate that in actual physical reality.

For that is what your perception does: it creates the actual physical reality that you participate within. This can also alter your cells, for you can alter your actual form in association with manipulating perception.

CARL: Is that going to be obvious to other people? If there is agreement?

ELIAS: It is not necessarily a matter of agreement. It is a matter of awareness and openness. It can be perceived by other individuals, and many times is, when you actually generate that type of alteration. Other individuals will notice.

Remember, each of you creates the image of every other individual that you encounter. You are receiving their energy and you configure the form. Therefore, as the individual projects a different energy to you, it is dependent upon how you receive that energy.

If you are generating generally an openness, not merely with one individual but generally speaking, you will perceive the alterations of the energy and you will configure your image of them differently. That can be to different degrees, depending on how you receive the energy from the other individual. If you are allowing yourself to express less rigidity in perception, which is another element of this wave, you can allow yourself to receive energy more in the manner that it is being projected rather than filtering it through your guidelines and configuring it in a manner that is much more familiar to you Ė which may tie nicely into a segue, also associated with perception, in what has been created this day.

What is one of your greatest avenues of projection of perception? It is an avenue of communication and it is also an avenue in which you recognize perception, other than thinking.

RODNEY: Visual.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: And we busted the visual machine.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Perhaps you did not bust it, but you have provided yourself with an excellent and clear example of alterations of perception. In this, what you see, what you input visually is very influencing of your perception, more so than any of your other senses.

CARL: Iíd like a clarification. When you said to Rodney, ĎAnd yet you see me,í my first thought was no, I see Maryís body. I might hear and feel the difference, but thatís not what I see.

RODNEY: But he was joking; he didnít really mean that. Heís in Regional Area 4. Heís in a place of nothing. You know I canít see that, so I knew you were joking.

ELIAS: I was not actually joking. There is more than one manner of seeing. You can close your eyes and see. Individuals that incorporate no sense of sight can see. Images are expressed. Regardless of whether you are incorporating your visual sight or not, you can see and you can even see images. Although you visually see the physical body of the individual of Mary, when you are interacting with me you are not generating the association of that individual. You are associating with me, and therefore you are seeing me.

GAIL: Itís just like seeing a fan turn on, when you know you turned it on. The electricity, the idea of you being there turning it on, you know youíre there, even though you donít see you. Like you in Maryís body, youíre manipulating the energy in the fan, and itís the recognition of the energy.

ELIAS: Correct. Or as you incorporate seeing myself in dream state, you each incorporate images of myself, and they are all very different.

CARL: I have to ask one question. In our last session, we had discussed me having a conversation with you, and you acknowledged that that was taking place. Then I had a couple more after that, and youíre acknowledging that? (Elias nods) Then I thought a couple of things. One, any time of day or night, if I want to I can do this. I can tune into you and have a conversation.

ELIAS: You are correct.

CARL: Then I thought if I can do that with you, I can do that with my dead mother, father, whoever, whatever.

ELIAS: You are correct.

CARL: I started to experiment with that. When Iím doing that, I have a tendency to discount myself, at which point the communication ceases and (inaudible).

ELIAS: Which is quite common. If you acknowledge yourself and acknowledge the reality of what you are doing and the interaction that is occurring, rather than excusing it away as being imagined, the interaction will continue. When you discount it and express to yourself that it is imagined, you create a block.

CARL: The other night, I was having this conversation with you and my mind drifted. I started getting mental image pictures of this or that or whatever. My impression of that was that you were giving me examples of free thought or how essence creates in a nonlinear timeframe. Would that be a correct assessment?

ELIAS: Yes, and assimilating, that you do not necessarily assimilate through thought.

CARL: To quote somebody earlier, ĎWow! This is big!í (Elias and group laugh loudly) I think Iím done for the rest of the day.

ELIAS: Very well!

JANL: I think one of the things thatís a trigger for me of when I might make that transition from going with what I want and starting to move into doing what I think I should do would be the feeling of frustration. Is that like a genie for me, Elias, that frustration and that sensation within my body?

ELIAS: It is a signal, yes, and you can incorporate that as a gauge, especially in association with intensity. The more intensity you experience, the stronger that gauge is expressing to you.

JANL: Thanks, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

GAIL: I have a question. Iíve been having that dichotomy within myself. Itís not like I need another person to have this back and forth thing; I have this back and forth thing within myself. Iím using an objective imagery of smoking and not wanting to smoke. Iíve been doing this for like a year. At times when Iím smoking, itís relaxing. Then I get to the point where I canít stand the smell, I canít stand the taste of it, why am I doing this, and then I stop for a while. I have what Jan was talking about, which was that irritation, but I canít find out why Iím doing this. Does this have to do with perception even within myself?

ELIAS: Yes, and also the association that you must choose.

GAIL: I know! And itís not just with that. Itís like where do I want to live, whether I want this, whether I want that. I feel like Iím constantly saying, ĎChoose! Choose! Choose!í but I canít make a choice because I donít feel the movement. Usually I just listen to myself and I go, ĎOh, Iím presenting myself with this. Okay, Iím going that way. Iím presenting myself with this; Iíll go that way.í It used to be easy. Now Iím making myself make a choice in like everything.

CARL: Should I dump that new boyfriend? (Group laughter)

ELIAS: It is a matter of allowing yourself to stop analyzing and teeter-tottering in relation to what is the right choice, and recognizing Ė and this is significant Ė that preferences change and they can change frequently. Therefore, in association with the action of smoking, in one time framework you may be incorporating a preference to engage that action and in another moment you may not incorporate a preference, and that can vacillate.

GAIL: Oh, yeah, quite often.

ELIAS: That is not bad. It is not a matter of generating a choice of either/or, and this is what you are presenting to yourself.

GAIL: What do you mean I donít have to make a choice of either/or? Iím doing it or Iím not doing it, I want to move or I donít want to move?

CARL: She wants the stability of a stable neighbor, which would be an absolute, right?

GAIL: And thereís no such thing.

ELIAS: In this, it is a matter of allowing yourself the flexibility that you allowed yourself previously, and in that flexibility not anticipating, not projecting: ĎWhat should I do? What should I not do? What direction should I move in? What direction should I not move in?í Previously you allowed yourself to present yourself...

GAIL: Yeah, it was easy.

ELIAS: Correct, for you were not anticipating. Now you are projecting, you are anticipating, and you are vacillating. You are not paying attention to your preferences in the moment, and you are projecting futurely and pastly to the distraction of the now.

GAIL: Iím aware that Iím doing that, even, and I always say, ĎStay in your now. Do your five senses.í Like staying at my parentsí house and trying to work through that, what got me through that was paying attention to my five senses and to my now. I feel like I have to practice that every minute of the day because Iím constantly making choices, yes?

ELIAS: Yes. That would be the point. I may express to you that practice does incorporate a payoff and it does become easier.

GAIL: Kind of like when I was sitting with Belinda and just trusting myself to do what I was freely going to be doing, right? Itís that feeling?


GAIL: Okay, I like that one.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well! I shall incorporate one more question.

JOHN: I have one. An element of perception as I understood it, or the mechanism of perception, are the four focus types that youíve laid out before: thought, emotional, religious, political. I would expect all those differences to be emphasized between people. Also, my own experience within this wave of perception is that emotion and the emotional focus, for example, that should play some sort of role in my experiences with respect to this wave. Am I correct?

ELIAS: It is a factor. I would not necessarily express that it would be the central role, but it is an influencing factor, for those are lenses, as I have expressed, in relation to perception. Therefore, they are influencing of how you perceive and how you create through that perception.

That would be a factor that would be important to pay attention to also, its influence and the recognition, in certain situations, of how strongly it may be influencing, and also the differences of other focus types that express differently and therefore perceive differently from yourself, and in that, allowing yourself to generate an openness in relation to those differences Ė not discounting yourself for the lens that you incorporate, acknowledging that, but also allowing yourself an openness to the other lenses, whether you understand or not for that is not always necessary, merely the recognition that there are differences and that you may not necessarily...

JOHN: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckles) Very well, my friends!

RODNEY: Wait! We get no homework?

ELIAS: You are already engaging it! Be encouraged! (Laughs) Go forth and conquer! (Laughs with group) And create great new adventures and strange viewing objects, and perhaps new ghosts!

To you all in great appreciation and tremendous lovingness, dear friendship, and as always, great encouragement as you move forward, au revoir.

GROUP: Au revoir.Ē [session 2116, October 21, 2004]

ELIAS: ďAs you have all been anticipating, the announcement finally arrives: your previous wave is ending and your new wave beginning. (Applause, and Elias laughs) That may be premature! (Laughter)

This wave in consciousness is associated with the Vold family. Those individuals belonging to or aligning with this family of the Vold will be experiencing this wave more intensely than other individuals, but it may also be beneficial for those individuals in being helpful to other individuals in understanding what they are experiencing.

This wave that you have chosen to begin is the wave addressing to emotion. I will express to you that within what would be identified as this previous month, many of you will have been noticing a building intensity of energy and most likely have been experiencing unusualness. In this, you have been building energy to begin this wave.

This wave will include some intensities. For those of you that are thought- or political-focused individuals, you will likely be experiencing unusualness, for you are not accustomed to expressing emotion as often or as intensely as religious- or emotional-focused individuals. Therefore, it may be confusing at times. Those of you that are emotionally focused or religious-focused individuals will be experiencing more of an intensity in your emotional communications. By that, what I am expressing is not necessarily MORE emotional communications, but louder. Therefore, they will be less easy to ignore.

DEBI: Well, thatís good.

ELIAS: It is, in your terms. For many of you, as individuals with your respective focus types, do at times find it difficult to be paying attention to emotional communications and what they are expressing, what the messages are. You are all accustomed to the signals, but not as accustomed to what those signals are expressing in their messages. This will offer you an opportunity to become more clear in identifying your own communications with yourselves. But there will be an intensity, and this wave also appears that there is a potential that it will be more on-going than that of the perception wave.

I would also acknowledge all of you in your movement in relation to the perception wave, for you have accomplished quite well in paying attention and noticing differences and recognizing the importance and the significance of perception and the strength of perception, how it actually does create all of your reality and colors all of your reality. But you have fared well and you have accomplished, and this has facilitated your movement into your new wave, which I incorporate no doubt that you will fare well with this wave, also.

But be aware there are many, many, many individuals within your communities, within your societies, within your world that are not objectively aware of what is occurring. They are experiencing the same but may not incorporate the information that you do to offer themselves explanations. This is the reason that the Vold individuals will be instrumental, those belonging to or aligning with, for you as individuals incorporate strong capacities for sensitivities to other individuals in relation to emotional communications and can be supportive in dramatic manners.

Therefore, I encourage all of you to be aware that there will be confusion in this wave. This is not to say that it is bad, but there will be confusion. Those of you that understand can be encouraging to other individuals. This is your opportunity to incorporate what you know into action.

Many, many, many of you have engaged with myself for extended time frameworks and incorporate desires to offer information to other individuals and to include other individuals in the expansion of this information. Many of you become confused in how to do that without being instructing. This is your golden opportunity to be helpful, to be supportive, to be accepting without instructing and to be sharing in a manner that will be encouraging to other individuals, to allow them an expanded awareness and more of an understanding and more of an encouragement, for other individuals to become more intimately and clearly aware of themselves.

Now that you are informed (chuckles), I have chosen to open this interaction to you and allow you to pose your questions in relation to your experiences, and perhaps share your experiences in what you accomplished or what you offered to yourselves in information in relation to the previous wave.

Sharing is an excellent form of connection and communication, for as you do that, you each allow yourselves to attract different perspectives that allow each of you to expand your own perceptions. Therefore, I also express that it is excellent to be acknowledging of accomplishments, and I am aware that all of you have accomplishments in relation to our previous wave. Who shall begin?

PAUL T: Hey bro, howís it going? (Elias chuckles) Yes, the perceptual wave. I have been sharing with many people what I have chosen to call Ďperceptual orientation,í your orientations. The terms to the uninitiated to your nomenclature, the terms of common, intermediate and soft, sometimes raise directions of questioning which is not really pursuant to me being able to effectively share information about perceptual orientation. I have been using the viewpoints of Ďexternally focusedí for common, Ďinternally focusedí for intermediate, and Ďblended or combinationí for that of soft, using these terms not to imply extrovert or introvert, but rather just for where a personís focus of attention is. The purpose behind this is to not confuse people with terminology which takes a whole lot of explanation and that sort of thing.

Would you comment on that sort of terminology that Iíve been using, or is there perhaps another direction you might suggest? Because the information about perceptual orientation has been extraordinarily helpful to me in understanding people around me and my interactions with them and their interactions with other people. Itís been very interesting sharing this with other people, watching their reaction to it and having them be able to use it effectively as well.

ELIAS: How you interpret or translate the information is entirely acceptable. I choose terminology intentionally, but also am aware that once it is presented, each of you will interpret that in your own manner, and you will discover manners in which you can individually effectively share. This is not recruiting; it is SHARING. In this, what method you choose or what terms you choose that facilitate your sharing and generate more ease in doing so is entirely acceptable.

And what have you recognized in accomplishments in association with differences?

PAUL T: Thatís probably the most significant aspect. By understanding the differences in the perception of others, it allows me to make a deeper connection with them, because it allows me to stand in their shoes, so to speak, and take their perception at least temporarily.

The most striking example is a neighbor of mine who is intermediate. The extreme focus upon her relationship to everything else is interpreted by some others around me as being extremely self-absorbed. Whereas, this information and understanding how she actually perhaps Ė I have to imagine, because Iím not intermediate Ė how she views these things allows me to relax my automatic judgments of that way of viewing things. It allows me to relax more, and thatís the most important thing.

ELIAS: Very well, which is quite important, for comfort is a very important subject in what you all seek to attain. It can be an elusive state of being if you are not paying attention to when you are comfortable and when you are not comfortable. Most individuals focus upon when they are not comfortable but do not necessarily acknowledge when they are. Therefore, when they are not, it becomes confusing in how they can return to being comfortable. But I would be acknowledging of you in your accomplishment.

But I would also pose an inquiry: what if you do not understand?

PAUL T: Well, then Iím just fucked! (Elias laughs loudly with the group)

ELIAS: That would be the next accomplishment! Ha ha ha! Yes?

JO: Who me? (Elias laughs) A year ago today, I began an energy exchange with an essence who calls herself Rose. It was just a few very scary, precipitous words on a ouija board, after sitting and looking at it for about two or three weeks as it didnít move. It was lifeless.

Itís been a very emotional and overwhelming and beautiful experience. In the context of it emotionally, it gives me pause Ė I hadnít thought about that before Ė because I am emotionally focused, it has been part of the process, somehow, of being open to that. A lot of the material that is coming out seems to be moving into the action area. It will be encouraging me (inaudible) to be taking more action, and others as well, in line with our intent and doing things that bring us joy and bliss and that are in line with what we came here to do and that please us. So itís like a cusp that weíre on today, thatís going to be very interesting to see how it evolves. Thatís my accomplishment.

ELIAS: Very well, and how do you associate that with perception? How has it affected your perception?

JO: Itís as if I see now why Iíve always perceived things perhaps a little differently. Iíve been more accepting of my orientation, and it has helped explain a lot of things Iíve perceived about myself in the past. So it has helped me relax into my life in ways that Iíve never considered before. It helped explain things.

ELIAS: Congratulations.

JO: Thank you very much, and I mean that most deeply. If it hadnít been for you and Mary, I wouldnít be doing this now. Iím deeply grateful to both of you. (Elias nods in acknowledgment)

ELIAS: And the next individual?

DEBI: Iíd be happy to go, but Iím not quite sure where to start.

ELIAS: What has the wave addressing to perception allowed you to accomplish in relation to perception?

DEBI: Definitely, the last couple of years Iíve spent a lot of time purposely meeting people from other places with other beliefs, from other countries, extreme other beliefs. This is typically on-line, because I donít travel. I started out that way, with a goal of getting to understand more people. Forget about the news, the newspaper. I donít want to go there. I want to go to people and I want to find out whatís really going on. The result is, for me, Iím still judgmental Ė Iím not gonna say Iím not judgmental; I donít know that thatíll ever be gone Ė but much, much less judgmental. I still do auto-respond to things that are not my guidelines, the difference being that now Iím aware of it much sooner than I used to be. I think one of the best things that came out of this perception wave is Iím much faster at getting things than I used to be, partially because itís so goddamn painful Ė sorry, excuse my French Ė but it is. You know I was suicidal for the better part of last year. Iíve put more good days together in the last two weeks than I have in my entire life, I think.

The perception wave, for me, culminated in this experience I had one day where I was standing in a parking lot smoking a cigarette trying to figure out why everything was so screwed up. My perception was it was going in one direction, and I didnít make it go that way. I heard myself go, ĎWhy does God hate me?í and then I go, ĎYou donít even believe in God, dumb ass! Donít call yourself dumb!í I realized, while this was going on, where was I in this huge parking lot? Iím standing next to the dumpsters! I am with the trash. I put myself there. I go, ĎNo, why do YOU hate you so much? Why do YOU hate you?í So I spent about 24 hours trying to come up with a really good reason to hate myself and keep screwing myself over and creating bad stuff, and I couldnít satisfactorily come up with enough... I could add up everything Iíve ever done that was horrible in my whole life and none of it was worth hating me. If someone else came along and said, ĎI did this, this and this, da-da-da,í I wouldnít hate them. And within 24 hours, my entire world shifted. Thatís all I did!

ELIAS: Congratulations.

DEBI: Thank you. Talk about a perception shift! I would have stood by that dumpster two years before if I had known that was going to happen! (Elias laughs with group) So I did move away from the trash Ė I donít smoke next to trashcans anymore!

For me, it was a very rough road. I have to be honest and tell you Ė and you can laugh at me, I know you do a lot and youíre going to Ė when I say Iím thrilled to hear itís the emotion wave and itís Vold time, because Iíve been living my life that way forever. So bring it on! (Laughter) Iím happy to help.

I already had a feeling about this. There has got to be a reason why Iím learning all this stuff Ė with a lot of help from my friend Milde, who held my hand through all this, while I was talking about shivving myself in the neck with scissors, stuff like that. To me, it feels like a breath of fresh air, Iíll be honest with you. Later on I might recant that, but it sure doesnít feel like it now. I donít feel afraid of this next wave. I feel excited. The perception wave, if that one didnít kill me Ė and it didnít, because I surprise the crap out of myself still, so I know Iím not dead! Ė I feel like man, I made it to the top of the mountain. Chutes and ladders, now I get to chute back down and start back up the next mountain.

ELIAS: Very well! (Chuckles) Yes?

STEVE: Elias, I have a proclivity, an urge to express and argue my point of view with other people a lot. Iíve posted over 6000 posts at BlueFlash, which is devoted to you, and I even attend a Bible class and I speak with them. I speak with people in the park. Wherever I go, I do that. I notice during this perception wave Ė and I argue with ghosts, too, by the way, as you well know (laughter) Ė and what Iíve noticed is that essences of your type and of our type have convictions that no matter what you say, no matter what argument you dream up to convince them of your belief, you cannot budge any of them, not one human being one inch, and the same with essences of your type. So Iím not sure why I even bother! (Laughter) But that seems to be the human condition. Thatís what Iíve noted during this wave.

ELIAS: Congratulations, that is significant. (Chuckles) Yes?

ANET: This is Anet/Alexi. Elias, it has been one heck of a year! I can identify very much with what you meant and talked about a couple of minutes ago. For me, the perception wave, I feel like I started it six or seven months before you announced it. I started comprehending on an experiential level that we really do, each of us, live in our own individual, self-created world. Iíve been reading this for many years, thought I knew it Ė I didnít know it!

When I started to get it, it was, just in and of itself, very upsetting to me because I felt like I was alone, where nobody else really understands what Iím experiencing and I donít really understand what theyíre experiencing. It was a very isolated kind of feeling. That was enough in and of itself, and then I went on to create significant trauma in many areas! But I learned in this process to appreciate other peopleís version of their world, other peopleís truths. They work for them.

I had the experience with a friend of mine, someone Iíve shared many other focuses with and who is totally not into the Elias material Ė in fact, he thinks itís of the Devil Ė he saved my life. He physically saved my life. I could see his beliefs, fundamental Christian beliefs, and they work perfectly for him. I would not try to take that away from him. We get along fine. We realize on a fundamental level we believe the same things, but I come here and listen to channeled material and he reads the Bible. That was profound.

From there, with every person I meet, Iíll catch myself going into judgment: they donít know the truth! But wait a minute, their truths work really well for them and mine work similarly well for me, and thatís okay. If I think back to where I was two years ago, because thatís when I started experiencing the perception wave, that was a tremendous shift for me because I still thought I knew the right way, the best way, and everybody else was going to be better off if they believed as I did. I now see that that is not the case, and that is just fine.

ELIAS: That is a significant accomplishment. Congratulations. Yes?

GEORGE D: Hi, Elias. For me, it gave me a great sense of freedom. I felt okay seeing the world the way I want to see it. I realized that everything is up to me, pretty much, in my own life. It also gave me a chance to understand other people much better. My relationships kind of grew, and to not take things personally.

ELIAS: Ah, that is significant.

GEORGE D: It allowed me to allow people to be who they are, and in exchange, I can be who I feel like that day, pretty much. It allowed me a great sense of fun. Life is more enjoyable, more colorful, and I actually like a lot more people nowadays than I used to. (Elias laughs with group) I donít peg everyone as bastards, because I was one of them, too. Overall, it hasnít really been that easy because everything takes experience and practice. Sometimes you see this belief sitting there like a wall and youíre heading straight at it a hundred miles an hour, and you think oh shit. Part of you doesnít want to deal with it and part of you just wants to see whatís going to happen. Sometimes you to have relax and let it go and know itís going to come back to you and youíll have what youíre looking for. It kind of allowed me a certain trust I never had before in everything.

ELIAS: Congratulations.

GEORGE D: I can summarize it that way.

ELIAS: Very well.

GEORGE D: Thank you for the material!

ELIAS: You are very welcome. Yes?

STELLA: Hi, Elias. Iím scared right now, but Iíve got to tell you that one of my greatest accomplishments so far, up to this point right now, itís the fact that I appreciate I chose to experience victimhood in all areas and experience the life I led and I had, because I always felt regret and like I was missing something, why did these things happen to me, why was God not there, why did God not love me, why couldnít I love myself, what had I done so bad that I could not love me. So behind all of that and appreciating today, that aspect of me that chose my parents and chose the life, the whole scene has such a great impact on me today because I can appreciate so much more of everything. I think thatís pretty big for me, and I thank you so much, Elias, so, so much. Even to allow you to be consistent and to continue to have you in my life, itís amazing. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: Congratulations. Yes?

DREW: I had a profound perception shift. It was actually kind of uncomfortable, but I think itís closer to the truth of things, and I would like you to comment if you would.

ELIAS: Very well.

DREW: It used to be my perception that energy and consciousness and life sprang from a place of joy, love. I had an experience a few months ago with the aid of some natural substances. I had the sense that I was defocusing and becoming more one with consciousness, and I had the profound sense that itís not a place of joy or love; itís ambivalent. If space is a metaphor or imagery for consciousness Ė and I donít know that it is, but I sense that it is Ė if youíre in space dying, space doesnít care. Space is ambivalent, and you can create whatever you want. If youíre drowning in the middle of the ocean, the ocean doesnít care. Whether youíre sailing and having a wonderful time or drowning, the ocean is ambivalent. Thatís been a profound shift in my perception and kind of a disturbing one for me, and I wonder if you would comment.

ELIAS: Very well. In actuality, you could incorporate space as a metaphor for consciousness, loosely speaking, and I would agree with your experience, for what you are describing are feelings: joy, despair, sadness, happiness. These are feelings. They are connected with emotional communications, but they are signals; they are feelings. They are associated with objective awareness. They are a part of objective awareness, and they are very strongly associated with this reality. This is not to say that other realities do not incorporate feelings. Many do, but in different capacities. What you are describing are feelings that are very much and very strongly associated with this reality.

As to consciousness, you are correct. I would not necessarily express Ďambivalenceí but neutrality. There is very much so an entire neutrality, for it is an entire allowance of choice, an entire recognition that every experience is a choice and every experience is purposeful. Therefore, there is no distinction of good or bad, of joyful or sorrowful, for every experience offers expansion and offers information. Therefore, they are all purposeful, and they are all beneficial.

This is the reason that I have expressed many, many times the importance of paying attention to your energy and what type of energy you express and you project outwardly, for you are continuously, in every moment projecting energy outwardly, which stems from what you are doing inwardly.

The reason it is important to pay attention to what energy you are expressing or projecting is that Ė you are correct Ė consciousness does not concern itself with good or bad or comfort or discomfort. It matches what you project. It precisely matches what you project. You precisely attract or draw to yourself whatever you project. Therefore, there is no distinction of what is good or what is comfortable or what is joyful, or what is bad or uncomfortable or distressing. It is a matter of energy and what energy matches what energy.

Many times you may be projecting an energy in a process that you want to be accomplishing, and you may actually attract or draw to yourself uncomfortable and distressing situations and experiences. That is not necessarily bad, for in whatever you want to accomplish, those experiences may be valuable in offering yourself information that you may not offer yourself in other manners. They may be more profound if they are uncomfortable.

But consciousness is not a THING. This is the point that becomes confusing to many individuals, for you think of consciousness as a thing, some type of endless entity, and it is not. Consciousness is an action. It creates things from no-thing. The action creates things, and you as consciousness create things also. You create yourselves, which is a thing.

In this, if you remove yourself, even momentarily, from what is known, and remove yourself from the experience of what is known in your reality Ė which is quite attached to emotion, for that is one of the base elements of the blueprint of your reality Ė when you remove that, yes, you do experience consciousness in a form that is very foreign to what you experience in this reality. It is not necessarily more true, but it is more essential. It is not more real, for that would discount or devalue the reality of what you experience in this reality, and it would also devalue the TRUENESS of the reality that you are creating now. It is different and it is more consistent, for that element of that void, so to speak, is present in every reality, for it is essentially what you are.

In that, this is the reason that I have offered information in relation to your reality and how it functions, how it operates, how you move and create in it, the significance of energy, how all that you do is interconnected and interrelated, and the significance of recognizing that emotions are communications. Feelings are associated with the objective awareness.

Within consciousness outside of physical reality, there is no objective awareness. It is not necessary. It is only necessary in relation to physical manifestations, for it is the element of consciousness that allows you to create physical realities, for it is the seat of perception, and perception creates reality, physical reality. Therefore, without the objective awareness, there is no necessity for emotion, for emotion is a communication to the objective awareness. Therefore, without the objective awareness, you are already aware of whatever the communication may be, and it is not necessary to incorporate that form of communication of emotion.

I expressed one group interaction in our early interactions in which I incorporated a different aspect of this essence, one that did not express any element of emotion. None of the individuals participating in that group interaction incorporate any recall of what the interaction was and could not connect, for you very strongly associate with emotion. This is the reason that I incorporated that action merely once and have not generated that again, for none of you respond to that lack of emotional expression.

Now; what you experienced is not actually bad, for it can be perceived as an empowering gift that you offered to yourself. For in recognizing the vast neutrality of consciousness, it also is acknowledging that quite definitely everything is your choice, that whatever you experience is your choice and is in your power to manipulate, for there is no outside power manipulating or influencing, for it has no cause to influence.

DREW: So this concept that the underlying stuff of existence, for lack of a better word, is love, is a distortion and inaccurate. God, if youíll excuse the expression, is love is inaccurate. Itís a distortion.

ELIAS: It is dependent upon how you define love.

DREW: Weíre limited in our terms, unfortunately. I donít mean...

ELIAS: Individuals generally define love in association with a feeling. They define love in what is actually affection. That would be the more accurate term for what you generally define as love. Affection is an emotional expression with a feeling. Love is not. Love does not actually incorporate a feeling. The actual definition of love is knowing and appreciating.

Now; in that definition, it would be accurate to express that the base of all or consciousness, or even God if you will, is love, for that is not an emotion. It is knowing and appreciating, and that would be a base element of consciousness. But if you genuinely experience genuine love, you can couple that with affection, which generates a powerful expression and experience and feeling. But if you experience it without affection, you will notice that it is not expressed in a feeling. It is a sense, for it is a deep and genuine knowing and the appreciation of that knowing.

Appreciation does not necessarily incorporate an emotion, either. But generally, you do express an association, for you do incorporate such a strong attachment to emotion that you do attach feelings to these experiences; but in themselves, they do not necessarily generate a feeling. It is more of a sensing, it is more of an empowering, a genuine knowing and a state of being as the appreciation.

Therefore, if you define love in that term, it is not a distortion. If you define love in association with a feeling, yes, it is a distortion. Does that answer your question?

DREW: Yes, and that was my recent shift in perception.

ELIAS: Congratulations. That is a significant shift and can be a very empowering shift. I am acknowledging of you.

PAUL H: Elias, that definition of love you gave as accepting, appreciating and knowing, that would also fall into your definition previously of truth as an absolute with a capital A, along with color and tone and other abstract...

ELIAS: Not necessarily as an absolute, but yes, as a truth, for a truth can be expressed in any area of consciousness. Not as an absolute, for in different expressions of consciousness it can be manifest in very different manners, just as can be tone or color. But in its essence, yes, it is a truth, for it can be expressed in any area of consciousness, in any manifestation of consciousness.

PAUL H: So itís not an absolute?

ELIAS: No, for it can change. If it can change, it cannot be an absolute.

PAUL H: Thatís right, an absolute is ever present, not ever changing.

ELIAS: Correct. Yes?

GAIL: In the perception wave, I actually realized that I have perception. (Laughter)

ELIAS: Congratulations! That is significant also, for there are many individuals that do not actually understand what perception is and do not recognize that they incorporate a perception. They rather express that actions are what they are, situations are what they are, you do what you do, you interact the way that you interact, but it is not perception. It merely is what it is, all of which is outside of you. I would be acknowledging. That is a significant accomplishment.

GAIL: Iíve given myself a lot of really hard examples to get to know that. (Elias laughs)


JOYCE: Iím new to you, so I greet you, Elias. I must have been in your perception wave, even though Iím new to the group. I have come to certain perceptions. First of all, I look at them now as lenses. I see us going to war because one wears a red lens and another a green lens, and how sad that we will fight for whose perception is so right instead of learn to have a multi-color world. Secondly, Iíve learned that whenever I need to change someone, there is a need, itís usually that someone is me. And that person, that projection out there, that behavior is calling me to really come back to me, look at myself. When I do that Ė and it takes time, and I do change Ė I can be more loving to the other person exactly as they are, thank them for bringing the lesson to me, and I can grow. Thatís where I am.

ELIAS: Congratulations.

Now; also in response to this, that is an accomplishment but I would also add an encouragement to all of you. Yes, you do draw to yourselves other individuals to emphasize differences and to emphasize your own guidelines. But remember, you each do incorporate your own guidelines, and that is not wrong and it is not bad. You are not eliminating beliefs. Therefore, you are also not eliminating duplicity, the capacity to evaluate right or wrong or good or bad. You are relaxing your associations with the right and wrong and good and bad in relation to other individuals, but it is also important to not discount your own guidelines in that process, to not discount yourselves and the validity of what you perceive to be right or wrong or good or bad for you, and that it is acceptable to disagree and to dislike expressions or behaviors or choices that other individuals generate. But you can also be accepting.

You can accept that their choices, their behaviors, their expressions are valid and that you disagree, and you can acknowledge yourselves also in your disagreement, which acknowledges you and acknowledges the other individual, and that allows you to be accepting of you and accepting of the other individual also.

When you are accepting of you, it is a natural by-product to be accepting of other individuals. It is not an action you must work at. In this, a difficulty that many individuals express is they generate the association that if they are accepting, they must like and agree with every other expression in their world. No. In that, it creates difficulties, for then the individual begins to discount themself: I should not be angry, I should not be disliking, I should not be disagreeing, I should attempt to discover an avenue in which I can change myself and be in agreement and be liking this expression. That sets you in a direction of considerable discounting of yourself and difficulty and struggle, and creates significant opposing energy within yourself, which can create significantly uncomfortable cycles or circles. For then you begin to project that opposing energy, and what will you draw, what will you attract? Opposing energy in some form, and that can become a circle which is quite destructive.

Therefore, I am greatly acknowledging of your discovery and accomplishment in relation to perception, and merely reminding all of you that it is important also to acknowledge your own opinions, your own preferences, your own likes and dislikes, your own associations with what is right and wrong, for that is not disappearing. (Chuckles)

We will incorporate one more, and break.

GEORGE G: A measure of oneís own self-acceptance is your capacity to accept another personís point of view and understand that they have their particular view of the world, which you may disagree with, but youíre willing to accept the fact that it is theirs so youíre not placing any judgments or associations of judgment on them. Thatís a measure of your own sense of self-acceptance.

ELIAS: Yes, and also...

GEORGE G: If you want to know how self-accepting you are, all you have to do is look to the outside and use that as a measure.

ELIAS: Yes, you can.

GEORGE G: I wanted to say something about the last year. I was thinking about what Cindel said before, and it made me realize that there has been a tremendous change in my perception in the last year and especially the last few months. Most of my life, I have been what you might say addicted to victimization and extremely preoccupied with it. In the last few months, I have been able to notice that much more and associate it and look to beliefs that I have. I find that itís been extraordinarily empowering and liberating. Now Iím beginning to experience and consider other aspects of myself, my creativity in many different areas as a direct result. In other words, my perception has changed, and that change in perception has allowed my awareness to expand considerably, thanks to you. As I said yesterday, I have so much affection and appreciation for you, Elias. Again, thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Congratulations.

... And the next individual Ė no? (Laughter) Yes?

STEVE: You speak of the three perceptions as if it was the whole ball game. I asked about eight people outside during the break what are the ABCs of offering our perception. Elias, give me something simple that everybody can understand real easy. Say I hate Iraqis. I want to change my perception to one of not hating Iraqis, maybe even liking them. I think I understood you to say during the first hour that you canít just go okay, Iím gonna look at it this way: Iím going to like them! That would not be effective. In the transcripts, you usually speak of offering perception as something thatís done through noticing. You notice (inaudible). Letís see, do I hate Iraqis? Yes, I do. Then you would ask why do I hate them. Well, because theyíre killing our soldiers. Is that the entirety of how we offer our perception and then Iím supposed to sit there and hope that I stop hating them, or is there another step involved?

Would you give us advice exactly on how to alter our perception that would apply to that situation and maybe to all other circumstances?

ELIAS: Very well. In this example, first of all it is important that you recognize that this is your perception, but...

STEVE: Let me interrupt for just a second. Eight different people gave me eight different answers. All right, go ahead. (Laughter)

ELIAS: And that would not be unusual! For all of those eight individuals incorporate eight different perceptions.

Now; your question is associated with how you change your perception. In this, you incorporate the perception that you strongly dislike a group of individuals Ė a culture, so to speak.

Now; first of all, you offer yourself the reason that you dislike this culture, which you have. You express that you dislike this culture for they are killing your fellow countrymen. Very well.

Now; you expand that picture, and you evaluate. Yes, they are killing your countrymen but you are also killing their countrymen. It is not a matter of who began the slaughter; it is a matter of differences. It is a matter of recognizing that you incorporate ideals and preferences and opinions, and they are valid; but they also incorporate ideals and opinions and preferences, and they are also valid. They are different from your perception, but their perception is no less real and no less valid than is yours. It is a matter of recognizing that it is acceptable for you to disagree with their perception, their ideals, their opinions, their preferences. It is not necessary for you to agree with that. It is also not necessary for you to like it. You can continue to dislike it and disagree, but what can change your perception to allow you more of an acceptance is to recognize that regardless of whether you agree or not, that does not absolutely designate you as right. You are right for you and in association with your guidelines, but they are also. They are right in their guidelines

In this, what is important is to understand the acceptance of the differences. You all incorporate differences to a degree, and in some situations and in relation to cultures, there are at times significant differences. It is natural for you to dislike or disagree with differences, for when you present differences to yourself, it presents a threat.

Now; what is the threat of the differences? When you present differences to yourself, the threat is your identity, for your rightness in whatever your associations are is entangled with your own identity. It is a part of your identity. Therefore, if you encounter differences, that threatens your identity, for it is very important for most individuals to be right. And in your own guidelines, you are.

This is the reason that you incorporate your guidelines. They are right for you. They govern your behavior; they govern how you will express yourself. How you express yourself may not be right for another individual. In that, that difference will create a threat, and the other individual, in like manner to yourself, will respond in opposition. It is a matter of becoming aware that your perception is not absolute. There is not one absolute right reality. There is your reality, which is very associated with your guidelines, and that may be right for you, but it may not be right for another individual. It is not absolute.

Just as you expressed previously in this forum that you interact with other individuals and you choose to interact in a manner that is somewhat antagonistic. In this, you recognize that you are not necessarily changing the perception or the opinion of another individual, but it is your choice to express yourself in this manner.

Now; to another individual that incorporates different guidelines from you, that may be perceived as threatening, for it is different, and they will respond in an opposing manner and project an opposing energy.

It is not necessary to understand what another individualís guidelines are or what their perception is. What is important is to recognize that there are differences, that you are all different, that as many individuals as you can gather that will support your guidelines, your opinions, your preferences, there are equally as many individuals that another individual in another culture can gather to support their opinion and their preferences and their guidelines. Does that generate the basis for rightness for either of you, how much support you can gather that is similar to yourself? No. It merely is a reinforcement that there are other individuals that may incorporate a similar perception to yourself, but that does not express that it is right or that it is wrong. It is right for you, and that will influence you in how you express yourself.

Changing perception is not necessarily changing your opinion or changing your preferences. It is not necessarily changing that now you agree with another individual or now you like this culture. Perhaps you will not. Perhaps you will not throughout the entirety of your focus. But you can accept that their perception, their choices, their preferences are equally valid as your own.

If you can acknowledge that another individualís perception is equally as valid as your own and you are not experiencing the threat of the difference, there is no necessity for war. There is no necessity for conflict, for it is not necessary to convince the other individual that you are right and they are wrong. It is not necessary for you to defend yourself, for you can incorporate that confidence in your own perception that it is right for you. Therefore, it is not necessary to defend it; it is not necessary to boast it; it is not necessary to impose it. You can allow the other individual to express their perception without the attempt to change it, and they can create their reality in the manner that they choose. Which, if neither is threatening each other, you can coexist in your differences, for there is no longer a threat that one is right and one is wrong, and therefore the one that is wrong must be changed.

In your scenario, as I expressed, you express, ĎI dislike this culture for they kill my countrymen.í They dislike your culture for you kill their countrymen. It is the same, and the essence of it is neither culture will accept the validity of the other in their perception of what is right and what is sacred to each.

STEVE: That was a very long answer, and I wasnít expecting it to be that involved. Iím trying to grasp what the essentials are of what you just said so I can apply it to something else. I first gleaned the fact that it is not just a matter of noticing. Thatís not enough.

ELIAS: At times it may be.

STEVE: You went through a whole intellectual process there! You mentioned a lot of different things. How would you summarize what it is that you do? In other words, letís say you want to apply it to some internal thing, like youíre worried about your anger getting you in trouble, or youíre worried about self-destructive tendencies and you want to alter your perception of worry. Letís make it worry, about anything you want. You want to alter your perception of worrying, so first you notice the worry Ė thatís what I got from your last conversation. But then Iím not sure, in fact, what would apply. What rules have you just stated about how it would apply to anything, including worry?

ELIAS: You notice that you are experiencing the worry, and you evaluate what the threat is. For, the threat is what prompts the other expressions: the worry, the defense, the aggression, the conflict. What is threatening, and is it valid? Is it directly affecting you now? If it is not, it is real, but it is not valid. Therefore...

STEVE: So the two answers youíve given so far have that in common. Identify the threat...


STEVE: Notice and identify the threat. Step 3...?

ELIAS: Is it valid?

STEVE: Youíre doing well. (Laughter, and Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: If it is not valid, your perception will to a degree automatically alter.

STEVE: Is there ever room for saying, is this completely out of the question, ĎIím just not going to worry any more; Iím not going to be angry any more; Iím not gonna hate the Iraqis any more; Iím going to perceive this way instead?í Is that not going to work?

ELIAS: It can. It is unlikely, but it can. It is not impossible. It is quite less likely that you would accomplish in that manner, but yes, it is possible.

STEVE: Youíve got to see all the implications of anything you want to change, all the intricacies of whatís going on there.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is not necessary to be that complicated. But identifying the threat is very helpful to intentionally be changing your perception.

STEVE: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Yes?

GEORGE D: Elias, this past week I had a very vivid dream that had to do with changing perception, but I didnít change it myself; someone changed it for me. (Elias chuckles) In the dream, I was backstage in a theater, and I had an exchange with this lady, a very chubby lady with very thick glasses. She says, ĎCome here,í she taps my cheeks, and everything changes. My perception changes. My focus, everything is different. I say, ĎIím dreaming, I enjoy this, and Iíve got to figure out how to do it myself without it being done to me.í The dream ended.

Thereís got to be something in this dream for me, a clue. Maybe you could give me a hint. It was so easy in the dream, it was so easy, and the change was instantaneous. It felt how it is supposed to be. Itís been on my mind for three or four days now, since last week, and I canít figure it out. I think itís so simple that I donít see it. It just shifted, like that. Would you have a hint, please?

ELIAS: First of all, the image of the other individual is not another individual. It is you. Another individual does not change your perception. It is not done to you or for you. YOU change your perception, and I can express to you that you can change your perception quite instantaneously and easily. Generally, you do not, for you are fascinated with complicating all that you do. Therefore, you incorporate methods and steps, and you generate all of these actions to attempt to change your perception, when in actuality it is quite simple. It is merely a matter of recognizing what threatens you, for generally speaking, that is what creates your own rigidities.

The manner in which you complicate is by looking outside of yourselves and attempting to identify all that is outside of yourself that is occurring in your environment or around you that robs you of your comfort, when in actuality, those elements outside of you are not what rob you of your comfort. It is you that robs you of your comfort when you are expressing an identification of threat, and that creates defense.

It is a matter of being confident in your own perception, that regardless of what any other perception is of you, it does not invalidate your own perception of you. But what occurs is other individuals all incorporate different perceptions of you than you incorporate of yourself, and when any element of their perception is expressed to you, there is an automatic response to question yourself: is my perception of myself valid? Perhaps it is not; perhaps the other individual is right; perhaps I am wrong. And you begin to complicate.

When you are comfortable with you and trust and are confident in your own perception of yourself, another individual can express their perception of you, and even if they are expressing it in the intention of being negative or derogatory, you will configure that in an entirely different manner. An individual may approach you, notice your behaviors, your energy, and may express to you in a judgmental manner, ĎYou are a selfish individual.í And they may intend it to be a negative statement in association with their guidelines. But in your own confidence and comfort with your own perception, not questioning it, not being threatened, you may receive that statement and be complimented, and may even express Ďthank you,í for your perception will be expressing, ĎThis is a validation. I am paying attention to myself; I am expressing my own empowerment.í Therefore, this is a compliment, even if it was not meant to be one.

It is not a matter of gaining your acceptance or changing your perception through the offering or the gift of any expression outside of yourself. It is the recognition of your own validity and that your perception is valid, regardless of what any other individualís perception is. Each of your perceptions are valid, and each one of you is unique and different. Therefore, you all incorporate differences in perception in degrees, but none of them are invalid. All of them are real, and all of them are valid. Yes?

PRINCE: Elias, in a past transcript you briefly mentioned that our visual sense is very strongly influencing of perception and altering perception. Did you mean that what we look at physically can influence the way we perceive things and can influence changing our perception?

ELIAS: Yes. You generally rely upon your visual sense the most strongly, more so than your other senses, your other outer senses. This is a natural action that you incorporate. Your visual sense can be very influencing of your perception.

For, let us incorporate an example, one that may be disturbing. Let us say that you encounter another individual that is engaging in a behavior of being neglectful to a creature.

Now; you visually see the individual being neglectful. Perhaps the individual is withholding nutrition from the creature. You view this scenario visually, and you process information. In that, you process the information in association with your guidelines, which governs your behavior and what YOU would do. You immediately generate an association that what the other individual is doing is wrong: you disagree, you dislike what the other individual is doing, and you react in some manner, for what they are doing is wrong.

Now; you may encounter another individual that is actually doing the same action. You visually see them doing the same action, but you visually see the other individual in a different scenario, such as perhaps you encounter an individual that you term to be homeless upon your street. This individual also may be doing the same action of withholding nutrition from the creature, but you process that visual information differently, for although they are doing the same action, you may notice that the individual that is homeless interacts with the creature with compassion.

Regardless that they are doing the same action, you process that information visually differently, and your response or your reaction will be different. For although you may continue to express that you disagree and that the individual is withholding food from the creature, you now incorporate a different perception. For in some situations, you will be more accepting of that in accordance with the conditions and whether the individual in your perception incorporates adequate means to provide for the creature. If, in your perception, they do not, you will be more inclined to excuse the same behavior that you would not excuse in the other individual.

Therefore, your vision has offered you information and a communication that you process in different manners dependent upon what you see. In both scenarios, you may not actually interact with the other individual. You may merely see what is occurring, and you will generate evaluations in relation to what you see.

Your vision also can influence you in perception, for you may not necessarily see entireties of scenarios. Therefore, if you see pieces of scenarios, you will process that information and generate an evaluation which may be quite different from what is actually occurring in a particular scenario Ė but you will generate an association in relation to what you see. In many situations, what you see, you may generate an evaluation that it is unacceptable or it is wrong what the other individual is doing. But you may not be seeing all that the other individual is doing, and therefore not incorporate complete information. Therefore, your evaluation may not be accurate, and you may present yourself with additional information subsequently and recognize that you were generating an inaccurate evaluation of what actually occurred. Your vision can be very influencing, more so than any of your other senses.

PRINCE: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

STEVE: Elias, since nobody has their hand up, can I sneak one follow-up in? (Elias nods) Iíve got a little unsettled feeling still. If I would have asked you how do we alter our perception, and I didnít give you an example to work with and I told you I didnít want you to work with an example, I want you to state the principal, in principal how do we alter our perception, how would you have answered that?

ELIAS: In the same manner that I did.

STEVE: You mean this is going to apply across the board?

ELIAS: If you want to alter your perception, it is a matter of noticing what you want to alter and evaluating what in that perception presents a threat.

STEVE: Is it always a threat?

ELIAS: Generally, you do not want to alter your perception if you view it to be pleasant. If you like your perception, generally speaking you do not want to change it. You want to change your perception when you do NOT like what you are perceiving. Therefore, if it is that you want to change your perception for you dislike what your perception is or you are uncomfortable with your perception or incorporating the perception that you have generates some discomfort, there is an element of threat.

STEVE: What if you identify the threat and then ask Ďis it validí Ė youíre assuming that it isnít Ė a lot of threats are valid...

ELIAS: At times they are.

STEVE: If I get angry and cause a lot of hell, that hell is valid.

ELIAS: It is real; it is not necessarily valid.

STEVE: Whatís Ďvalidí mean?

ELIAS: What is DIRECTLY affecting you now. You can become very angry that there are violent expressions in the world, and you can express that anger quite intensely. It is very real. Is it valid? Is it occurring to you? Is it affecting directly of you in the moment? Likely not.

STEVE: Well, if somebody shoots me because I got angry with them, it could pretty well affect me.

ELIAS: But if you are generating anger in relation to a subject or a concept or even another individualís behavior, generally speaking many times what other individuals are doing is not directly affecting of you.

STEVE: Because...?

ELIAS: For they are not personally doing to YOU.

STEVE: What if itís internal? What if you want to stop something that youíre doing to yourself? We create our own reality, so that rules out the example I gave of another person being involved. But itís very valid if you have a self-destructive tendency, say, and you get destroyed.

ELIAS: It remains the same: what is the threat?

STEVE: The threat is, like Iíve got this problem that if I think about a certain thing in my consciousness, it barks, it snaps back and causes me symptoms of disease, actually, so thatís a very valid threat. I canít just say thatís invalid. It is not invalid. It hurts.

ELIAS: It is real, but what is the threat?

STEVE: That if I think about it, it will do it again.

ELIAS: And you incorporate the choice to engage it or not.

STEVE: This seems to have its own independent mind on this matter.

ELIAS: That, it does not. That is the threat, that there is some manifestation that is not you that incorporates the power to control, and that is incorrect. Therefore, the threat is that you do not create all of your reality, that there are elements that create some of your reality for you.

STEVE: So Iíve got to link up with this thing and think of it as part of me. (Elias nods)

ELIAS: ... Yes?

ROBERT: Hi, Elias. I wanted to talk more about your definition of being (inaudible) because I found it really helpful when you distinguished it from not necessarily being happy. The word that came to my mind was Ďauthentic,í when my experience seems authentic and when it doesnít. The question I wanted to ask was as Iíve gotten older, Iíve noticed that sometimes Iíve perceived things, thinking they would make me happy and then they didnít, and then found that other things that I thought would not make me happy actually being much more lasting. But I still feel like Iím at a stage where Iím watching myself engage in behaviors which I know are not going to make me happy and yet I continue to engage in the behavior. Itís as if Iím outside of myself watching myself make a choice I donít want to make. If thereís behaviors weíre engaging in that we feel are not authentic, how can we accelerate the process of moving away from those behaviors or changing those behaviors?

ELIAS: By examining your motivation, paying attention to what you are doing, and examining what motivates you to do what you are doing, and once again, in similar manner to my response (gestures to Steve), evaluating what is the threat. What is the apprehension? If you do not engage what you are engaging, what will occur? You already know what will occur if you do engage.

This is an interesting point in relation to worry. You know what you create when you worry. You know you do not accomplish avoiding what you are worrying about. You know that worrying does not solve or fix what is distressing you, but you do it anyway. If you can inquire of yourself what do you associate will occur if you do not worry Ė you already know that the worry does not accomplish Ė what will occur if you do not worry? What is your association with what will occur if you do not worry? Is that to say that you are bad, for you are not worrying, or is this to say that you are not concerned for you are not worrying? Are you insensitive, for you are not worrying? Are you any of those expressions? Perhaps not. Once again, the evaluation of not what is real, but what is valid and what is not. Those are real associations, but are they valid? Are you insensitive? Are you bad? Likely not.

ROBERT: What if the behaviors give you momentary pleasure, like youíre eating food that gives you immediate pleasure but you know it will later make you feel unhealthy or...? You know this consciously, and you keep over and over getting the immediate pleasure instead of the longer term satisfaction of...

ELIAS: And what is the source of the immediate pleasure? What motivates that immediate pleasure, which is the same question as previously. What is the motivation for the behavior, what is the motivation for the choice? In that, is it genuine pleasure or is it another expression that you are labeling as immediate pleasure? What motivates that? If you know, if you are aware that this is an action that you generate that genuinely is not comfortable, the pleasure is a camouflage. Therefore, it is not to say that it is not real in the moment, but it is a camouflage, therefore it is not valid. Therefore, it is important or significant to view what the motivation is.

ROBERT: And the fact that itís not valid is born out by the fact that the pleasure stops and is replaced with something...

ELIAS: That you know that this consistently occurs, that you know you are engaging in a behavior that you consistently recognize you are uncomfortable with. Therefore, there is an element in that that the motivation is questionable. It is not genuine; it is being camouflaged.

DREW: Maybe the pleasure is real and the guilt later is whatís invalid.

ELIAS: The pleasure is real.

DREW: Maybe the pleasure is valid and the guilt or the discomfort later is whatís invalid.

ELIAS: That can be possible also.

DREW: ĎI shouldnít have...í

ELIAS: That can be possible also. It is a matter of evaluating what the motivation is, what you are doing and what associations you are generating. You are quite correct. An individual can be engaging an action that is genuinely pleasurable and valid, and discounting themselves subsequently, which would also be associated with what is the threat.

You can be consuming a food that is quite pleasurable and can be engaging a valid action that is valid to your preference, and subsequently experience guilt or discomfort. In that, it may be that there is the threat that you should not engage that action for it may be destructive to your body consciousness, or it may create different expressions of your body consciousness that you may not like. Is that valid? Is it doing that? You may make an association that if I indulge in consuming this particular food, I will gain weight, I will not incorporate the appearance that I want. Is that valid? Is that what is occurring now?

Therefore, yes, you are correct. It can move in either direction. But what is the common denominator is Ďwhat is the threat?í What are you apprehensive of? What are you anticipating that is not occurring now?

ROBERT: What if you analyze that and the answer you come up with is the threat that I will be a better person than I think Iím supposed to be, or that self-satisfaction isnít something I can calibrate back to my... Iím a six not a ten, and since Iíve done a bunch of eight things this week, Iíd better do some three or four things to bring myself back...

ELIAS: That would be interesting to evaluate, would it not? For what would express to you that you cannot be a one hundred? What is it that suggests to you that you are not worthy of being all that you want to be, or that it is not your right to be all that you want to be and to expand to the fullest that you possibly can in your focus? It is your right, and it is your value, and there is no reason that any of you should devalue yourselves to any degree to limit yourselves from any direction that you want to accomplish. It is not bad or wrong to have it all.

ROBERT: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. Yes?

GEORGE D: Elias, doesnít all this happen because of oneís belief systems?

ELIAS: Your belief systems filter every action, every expression. In this, there is no action that you incorporate within this physical reality that is not filtered through your beliefs. But in this, what is the snare is that you generate an association that your beliefs are bad. Your beliefs are not bad. They can be limiting when you oppose them. But if you are not opposing them, they can be very liberating and very empowering, and allow you to accomplish whatever you want to accomplish. I encourage all of you to befriend your beliefs and to empower yourselves, that you ARE great and powerful beings.

We have expressed a sharing of what you have accomplished in association with the wave addressing to perception, and that is no small feat. That was an intense wave, not long expressed but intense, and you have all accomplished considerably in association with it. In your terms, although I would not interpret the term Ďgrowthí but you do, in that I would express that you have all grown tremendously in that wave and have become much more aware of yourselves, and perhaps are beginning to glimmer what you can accomplish, even if you have not yet.

Although, I will also express that perception can be tricky at times, for you do accomplish and you express to yourselves that you have not, for you do not credit yourselves with what you have accomplished. You express you have not generated enough money, but you have generated money. You express you have not generated enough in relationships, but you have accomplished in relationships.

Whatever the subject is, even if it is an expression that you would view as small as acknowledging in a time framework of distress or despair ĎI expressed one hour in which I was not despairing,í or in a time framework of illness, ĎI expressed some moments in which I did not feel ill,í but you generalize and you overview. You express, ĎI do not incorporate enough money,í or ĎI do not incorporate ANY money,í and that is the generalization that you express in every moment, in every day Ė whether in one moment you are generating money, that is invalidated. Or when you are expressing illness or depression, you are ALWAYS for a time framework ill or depressed Ė there are no moments in which are you not, but there are. But you do not acknowledge them. You do not notice. And even if you do notice, you do not acknowledge, and that is not to your credit. Perhaps it will be of great benefit to you in this wave to pay attention to what you are doing and what you ARE accomplishing, regardless of how small you assess it to be.Ē [session 2482, April 04, 2008]

ELIAS: ďGood afternoon! This day, we shall discuss this present wave and how it is affecting each of you and what your experiences are thus far in association with it. But before we engage that conversation, I would pose to all of you, how would you define Ďassociationí?

RODNEY: With people or with anything?

ELIAS: Associations are generated with any expression: with individuals, with objects, with any experience.

ELLA: It is an emotional response to something based on something you already encountered.

ELIAS: Partially.

MALE: Itís a link between two different experiences. Somehow, theyíre linked together.

ELIAS: Partially.

NATASHA: Memories attached to feelings. (Elias nods)

MALE: I think that beliefs are attached to it.

ELIAS: Partially.

MALE: Do our inner needs and intent color our automatic associations?

ELIAS: At times.

FEMALE: I would call it a vibrational resonance which (inaudible).

LYNDA: My experience with associations is that it is something that triggers a feeling either from my past or my future, but it colors whatís happening in the moment. (Elias nods)

RODNEY: I would simply call it an experience, generally. Sometimes confused, sometimes complex, whether I see myself within the event, within the experience, or I see it solely as outside of me, coming to me, but very broadly almost any experience would define some kind of an association.

MALE: I think itís anything thatís generated by our perception, anything that we generate.

MALE: I think of a system of symbols, archetypical symbols, and a language, a symbology, in the classic consciousness Ė archetypes.

ELIAS: Very well. Association: an association is what you form or what you create in relation to an experience. You generate an experience and you create an assessment of the experience, which includes a judgment, good or bad. Once that association is formed, it generally remains with you. Yes, it does involve many of the elements that you have described, but simply and clearly, an association is the assessment that you generate in relation to an experience that includes a judgment.

The reason this is important to define and to understand is that you all generate many, many, many associations. You do not generate associations with future, for you have not experienced that yet. You do generate associations with past experiences and with present experiences. But past experiences and the associations attached to them are very affecting and are the most confusing in the present, for they confuse you with your present experiences, coloring them in relation to past experiences.

I have been expressing to individuals for a time framework now of paying attention to your associations and questioning yourself not whether they are real, for your experiences are real, but whether your associations are valid in the present with your experience. For many of your associations are past associations that are influencing and coloring your present experiences, and that becomes confusing and can create significant conflict. That is what is occurring in many situations in relation to this present wave.

Also, remember, this present wave is addressing to ALL FORMS of communication. This is a base element of your reality. It is a base element of the blueprint of your reality: physical and emotion, physical manifestations and communication Ė not feelings, communications. This wave is more intense than any of the previous waves, and it is more affecting. In this, many individuals are experiencing difficulty and unusualness and fear in relation to the intensity of the energy of this wave. It is different from other waves in consciousness, and as it is one of the base elements of your reality, it is very powerful.

This is not merely addressing to inner communications or outer communications. It is not merely addressing to communication that you generate between each other in your own species. It is ALL communications, in any form. It can be communications with creatures, which generate very different language than you. It can be with your planet, which also generates a different language than yourselves. It can be with any living expression in your reality. And it is challenging, for there are many, many differences. In that, there can be significant confusion, for you all automatically interpret other languages through your own, but your own language may not be what is being expressed by other manifestations. Therefore, it is important to pay attention.

Now; I will engage all of you to share your experiences that you have been generating and what you have been noticing thus far in this particular wave.

I will express to you one encouragement that may not seem to be an encouragement presently, but in actuality, it is a physical example that your planet, that your world, is actually shifting and that you can visibly see. The turmoil that you perceive in your world presently in actuality is not what it seems. It may be frightening to many individuals, that it appears that your foundations are somewhat crumbling, but in actuality, this is a sign of you ARE shifting. Many changes will occur in this shift, and they have begun. What you view to be bad or devastating economically is actually the birth pangs of a new foundation and a new order, for your old systems do not fit any longer in your new reality. This change is not occurring immediately, but it has begun.

But in these changes, there also is trauma, and there is confusion and distress. Individuals are experiencing intensities and are confused in what they are experiencing, and this is what we shall be engaging in conversation this day. What are YOUR experiences?

JEN: I have a question, and it comes from a group of us. I personally and many others have been experiencing a heightened intensity of energy. We feel that we have a (inaudible), and we feel different sensations that are unusual. Is there an energy surge? Could you comment on that?

ELIAS: Many individuals are and will be experiencing physical affects. Many individuals may be experiencing what they think of as a lack of motivation, but it is not actually a lack of motivation. It is a lack of motivation in relation to what is familiar.

Let me express to you, as I have recently with some individuals, one significant factor that is being affected is the body consciousness. For, you think that memory is held or stored in your mind. Memory is not stored in your mind. Memory is stored in your body consciousness. Every experience that you have ever engaged has been logged and stored and retained in your body consciousness. This is actually a very efficient action for you. For when you generate new experiences, your body consciousness retains old experiences and can reference them, which allows you to engage your thought mechanism to reason and to provide yourselves with logical or rational explanations for what you are experiencing. The difficulty presently is that you are moving into a time framework and an energy and experiences that are new. They are unfamiliar and some of which are even unknown.

Now; that creates a temporary disruption. It creates a disruption with the body consciousness and it creates a disruption with your thought mechanism, for your thought mechanism automatically wants to translate what information is being processed, but the body consciousness does not incorporate a reference of experience for what you are experiencing now. Therefore, it is processing new, unfamiliar, unknown information, and it must assimilate that before it can be translated by the thought mechanism. Therefore, there is a delay.

You perhaps observe yourselves experiencing, but as you incorporate no frame of reference for what you are experiencing, you do not understand what you are doing, for you cannot offer yourself a reasonable explanation. You merely know what you are doing, but it does not always generate sense to you, for it is unfamiliar. You may be engaging actions that you know within the familiarity of your experiences that you would not do, but you are. You may be responding to situations or individuals in manners that you know you generally would not, but you are. You may be reacting to individuals or to situations that you know in your experiences that you would not necessarily naturally do, but you are.

It appears that your world and yourselves are upside down, and the difficulty is how to right yourselves. But therein, as you express, lies the rub. For you want to right yourselves, but in attempting to do so, you perpetuate the confusion, for you block the assimilation of the new and that requires more time to assimilate. You become more confused and struggle more, therefore creating this circle of confusion and frustration, but also incorporating a sense or a knowing or a feeling that you are fine or that you are comfortable, which is also conflicting, for how can you be comfortable and confused and frustrated simultaneously?

LYNDA: Thatís a good question, and I hope you have the answer!

ELIAS: You are comfortable, for you do incorporate much information and you have applied much information. You have allowed yourselves to become more familiar with yourselves and to know yourselves more and to know more of what your preferences are Ė not all, but enough to allow you a comfort. You are directing of yourselves enough to allow you a comfort. But you also are engaging actions and experiences that are unfamiliar, and therefore, they are confusing.

In that confusion, you are not necessarily uncomfortable, but you are feeling and you generate frustration in not understanding how to eliminate the confusion and continue on with the comfort. Therefore, you search for some reason of what is occurring. Perhaps you may offer yourselves outside reasons, that there is tremendous energy being expressed, that your world is in tremendous upheaval. But in actuality, it is the unfamiliarity of experiencing different. You ARE shifting, and you are evidencing that to yourselves now.

You may express to yourself, ĎI want to read a book,í but you cannot seem to force yourself to do it. ĎI SHOULD go to work,í but you remain in your home. ĎI should engage this action and tidy my home,í and you go to a film. You are not uncomfortable doing the actions that you do, but there is a conflict, for you express, ĎI should not be doing this. I donít WANT to do this. I want to read a book, but I am not reading a book.í That may become very confusing also, for you do incorporate information, and therefore, you turn that information on yourself. You express to yourself, ĎPerhaps I do not want to read a book, for I am not doing it.í Yes, you may want to read the book, but you are DOING what is comfortable. You are DOING what you are self-directing in Ė not what you are supposed to do, not what you are told to do, not what you have trained to do, not what you are expected to do, but what you want to do, which is the beginning of moving in that genuine self-directedness.


RODNEY: It just occurred to me yesterday that I can allow myself not to smoke, and I feel better when I do not smoke. A weekend comes along like this and I want to have more energy, so I tell myself donít smoke for the next two weeks. I discovered this only yesterday, that the more I say I will do something, the more I donít it. It really hit me, the less I say I will do this or I will do that, the more I accomplish! I get up in the morning and I start moving through my day and I accomplish a lot more not having a schedule.

It was funny, last night Ė Iím spending the weekend with the Russians Ė I tried to set a schedule for this morning, because thereís a group of us and who gets the bathroom and so forth. Finally, one of them said do we have to be on there to piss? (Laughter) That was a perfect example. Here I was trying to project myself into the future and will it to be a certain way, and heís telling me to just allow and let it take care of itself. I hear thatís what youíre talking about right now.

ELIAS: Yes, allowance would be the key word, for this is key in this time framework. You ARE shifting, and in that, attempting to force yourselves in old familiar patterns merely creates tremendous resistance within yourself.

You are actually moving into what I have been discussing with you for many of your years. You are actually beginning to experience it now. In that, the more you push, the more difficult it becomes to function, for it is not a matter of pushing any longer. The more you force, the more difficult it is to accomplish whatever you want to accomplish.

The key also is comfort Ė what is comfortable and what is not. What is familiar and what you SHOULD do or what you are supposed to do is not always comfortable. But in shifting, you are willing out to the comfort rather than the shoulds and the supposed-tos.

RODNEY: Question? (Elias nods) This is personal. Iíve been thinking about moving for the last three years, and I have been creating a lot of anxiety about it. I finally decided in the last week or so to go out and look and experience areas, because thereís nothing drawing me. Thereís a lot of places I could go to, but thereís nothing drawing me. I can discover nothing that will motivate me. My decision in the last couple of weeks to go and experience the places and the people there and determine what feels the most comfortable and make my choice based on that and donít try to make sense of anything, is that what youíre talking about?

ELIAS: Somewhat, yes, and also allowing yourself to be open to new and open to unconventional. In this, perhaps no one location is drawing you for you may not want to be in one location. Perhaps you would be more comfortable being mobile. There are manners in which in your reality you can incorporate the comfort of a home that is mobile.

BILL: Elias, I have a question. This emotional wave seems to be hitting me most forcefully in family relationships. Before this wave occurred, it pretty much was easy to pay attention to me in the little things. Whatís occurring in the family now is there is such an intensity of different opinions and preferences, that Iím finding it really difficult to get in cooperation mode. Itís also making me realize that my attention was on them. I needed sort of a sledgehammer in everything, even big things, to shift my focus around to me. I sort of got that just this week. I was almost forced to get it.

My question is, though, the cooperation bit is difficult. I seem unable to allow my preferences and my guidelines to manifest within very opposing preferences. The guidelines seem the same. My wife wants the same thing that I do in relation to our son. We have different methods of doing. I donít know how to get to that cooperative state. She doesnít understand Elias stuff, but whether that even matters... I donít think that matters.

ELIAS: You are correct.

BILL: So I wonder if you could sort of talk me through what cooperation might look like when possibly preferences and guidelines on a particular issue are similar but the direction in which we get to them are very, very different. Itís still causing conflict.

ELIAS: And what is the conflict with the differences?

BILL: Itís probably my judging that her direction is not... We had a battle over that. Thatís what made me realize my attention was on her and I wasnít accepting of her. And itís work. I always start on the little things, and this is big. Iím creating this because I need to get my focus and my acceptance...

ELIAS: And an example of precisely what I expressed, differences. Differences are being tremendously emphasized in this wave. What is important is to view the difference. View your own position, so to speak, your own preferences, your opinions, but also view the other individualís and inquire of yourself what is so threatening in the other individualís difference: ĎI am reacting; what is motivating me to react; what threatens me?í

If the other individual incorporates one method and can accomplish the same outcome as you can accomplish with your method, what is it that you are threatened with in relation to the other individualís method? Do you view that as invalidating yours? Do you view yourself as being not heard? Are you generating associations that your opinion is not as important? This is also the reason that it is important to be aware of associations, experiences that you have generated in the past that you have attached associations to that may be influencing in what you are doing now and in conflicts and in judgment. Remember, associations carry judgments, whether they be good or bad. In that, is that association valid now?

You may have an experience pastly in which you were interactive with another individual and you may have felt invalidated in a particular type of scenario, and you may present yourself with what appears to be a similar situation. The imagery may be very different but it appears to be somewhat similar, and that association automatically comes into play without you thinking of it. It does not require your thought mechanism; you feel.

What you feel is the association. You think you are feeling in relation to what is occurring presently, but for the most part what you are feeling is that association, which is automatically being expressed, and you are not even identifying it. It is so present with you that you do not even notice it. Therefore, you think you are reacting to this moment and what is occurring in this moment. You think you are being present and you think are being in the now, but your indicator is where your attention is. That was your clue, that you are focused upon what the other individual is saying or doing, and it is bothersome to you. The reason it is bothersome to you is that already an association has been expressed and is present.

BILL: And creates an expectation within the present moment.


BILL: I feel that.

RODNEY: Youíre saying an association cannot exist unless thereís a judgment?


RODNEY: To have an association where there is zero sentiment is not possible?

ELIAS: In relation to all of you, no. You are correct.

RODNEY: In relationship to all of us?


RODNEY: Are there other examples where this would...? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes...

RODNEY: Iím just trying to see if thereís an exception to the rule.

ELIAS: Not with your species.

RODNEY: I donít care about other species. (General hubbub ensues in the group, and Rodneyís next few comments are lost.)

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. But it does...

RODNEY: (Inaudible) ...a very important point...


RODNEY: ...and I want her to get it, because sheíll understand that this rule does not apply to cats.

ELIAS: Or other species. It applies to you as human species.

RODNEY: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: I would express that associations in relation to humans, yes, do carry judgments, whether they be good or bad.

DANIIL: (Long, inaudible question)

ELIAS: Minimal judgment, and yes, they would be more aware in not generating past associations and generating associations in the moment, in the experience, but not necessarily be influenced by past associations. But there would continue to be some element of judgment, for once again, you are not eliminating duplicity. You are not becoming non-human and therefore eliminating preferences and opinions. You are shifting, but you continue to generate preferences and opinions, which incorporate judgments. In that, you also continue to express your own guidelines, which also include judgments. Therefore, associations would also continue to include judgments, but not necessarily bad.

DANIIL: (Inaudible)


LYNDA: Could I ask you for a little piece of clarification? The sticky piece for Bill and me is in the association. How I know that thereís a sticky piece or Iím uncomfortable is that my attention is on the other person, and itís all about either what they think about me or how I perceive they make me feel, and that can be an association many, many times in the past.

The one thing I want to acknowledge in this is that I agree with you. You can see where youíre attention was on the other person and not push and relax behind it. Thatís all I really know how to do at this point, is to go thereís that familiar discounting, which I know is my second clue that my attention is on somebody else, and allow myself to recognize that I feel like that and almost not do anything or distract myself, something like that. Did I get that right?


LYNDA: For me, this wave can happen so fast and suddenly Iím overwhelmed, thatís my experience. Suddenly I feel overwhelmed, and I have to backtrack and go, ĎWhat happened?í A lot of people are overwhelmed around me, too.

ELIAS: And the overwhelm can be generated in very minor experiences or actions. An individual may become overwhelmed and almost nonfunctioning in merely breaking a pencil.

RODNEY: Iíll be watching a movie, and someone will say something in a particular way and all of a sudden, I feel tears coming to my eyes. My entire body is filling with emotion. Itís like what is this? Where does this come from? Is it being depressed?

ELIAS: Or fear, and fear is being triggered very easily.

MALE: Can I ask you a big question? If I understand, in every moment you create a new experience, and in every new experience, we automatically generate an association?

ELIAS: Yes, but not necessarily a past association.

MALE: That was kind of where I was going. Itís very essential that now we know this, that this is completely new. Iím thinking of several examples of what weíre going through in the financial atmosphere, completely new, and no one really knows what is going on or what will happen tomorrow. What kind of associations can we generate to expand that data, to automatically take something from the past and create a kind of conflict that you described? Iím kind of mellow, but if itís something completely new, then Iím lost. Iíve learned a lot from having heard you over the years and having had you around, and I havenít experienced tremendous fear or confusion. Much of itís inside of me, but Iím trying to define something within this unit of experience, that I can relate something to it.

ELIAS: And you cannot, and that is the point. That is the point: it is a matter of allowance and moving with the new experience and allowing it to unfold, and in that, you will form a new association. But it is a matter of allowing the experience to unfold and to be assimilated, which your body consciousness does. In that, as you allow and as you relax into the experiences, you will offer yourself information. You will generate the translation in thought. You will create your explanation and understand. But the more you push, the more you force, the more you try to understand before the experience has unfolded, the more you cannot and the more elusive the explanation becomes or the understanding becomes. Therefore, it is important to allow yourself to merely flow with the experience.

This wave is literally more associated with actual physical waves than any other wave. If you attempt to swim against a wave, you will meet considerable resistance, and you will not move very far. But if you allow yourself to flow with the wave, you will travel considerable distance with very little effort.

DANIIL: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Quite so! Quite so. And in this, it is very similar to an experience of giving birth.

Now; many of you have never given birth. Therefore, that would be a very unknown experience to you. But in generating that type of direction, you can plan to become pregnant; you cannot plan the pregnancy. You can move with it or you can move against it. If you move with it, you will generate more ease. If you move against it, you will create difficulty and much discomfort. You cannot plan what the outcome of that pregnancy is, either. It will be what it will be. In this, there are many experiences now that you are and will be engaging that are not a matter of planning. They are a matter unfolding, and you allowing them to unfold.

For whether you understand it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you accept it or not, each and every one of you is a participant in the collective. Whether you think you have agreed to be or not, you are. Your energy ripples out tremendously more than you imagine and is affecting tremendously more than you imagine, and it mingles with every other energy in your reality, in your world. You may view yourselves as one small singular individual that perhaps touches some few individuals that you immediately interact with, but this is incorrect. You are touching throughout your world, whether you know any other individuals objectively or not. This is not to say that you are not participating and that you are not touching; you ARE.

In that, you are choosing to shift. You are choosing to expand. With that expansion comes great freedom, but can also include significant overwhelm and trauma, dependent upon whether you are flowing with or flowing against. Those that flow with may experience significant ease and little trauma, if any, and tremendous comfort and significant satisfaction.


JOHN: I find it interesting that this wave isnít driven by Ilda, which is all about communication.

ELIAS: Exchange.

JOHN: Pretty much the same thing.

ELIAS: Not entirely. And what is curious to you that it would not be directed by Ilda?

JOHN: It would seem that Ilda and the sense of exchange, the ultimate in communication...

ELIAS: The reason it is associated with Vold is that the Vold are revolutionary, and this is a type of revolution. This is being reflected in your financial communities. The revolution is occurring. Eventually, you will not stand upon the foundation of exchange. (Loud group chatter)

MALE: Youíve already told us that there is no cosmic equivalent of a condom. Weíre all getting pregnant! (Elias chuckles)

FEMALE: (Long inaudible question)

ELIAS: But this is what you are doing.

FEMALE: (Continues, inaudible)


FEMALE: Elias, could we return to the financial scene? The plain old country, the values and our pocketbook and our financial standing? I know youíve referred to the year 2075 everything will be...

ELIAS: Approximately.

FEMALE: But in the interim and presently, is there no guidance system? Are there some steps we can take to reassure ourselves?

ELIAS: Stop worrying! (Laughter)

RODNEY: When I was a little boy, my mom would give me a nickel at the end of every week. That was my allowance. That was the kind of allowance I was (inaudible).

ELIAS: And what will you do with your nickel when it no longer incorporates any value and no one is receiving it?

RODNEY: That would be terrible!

ELIAS: And why would it be terrible? Would it not offer you so much more freedom if you were not ruled by money?

RODNEY: Elias, Iím just trying to be funny, and youíre being so...

LYNDA: Damned serious! (Laughter with Elias) (Hubbub ensues again, taking comments or questions with it)

RODNEY: (Inaudible) ...I almost canít imagine.

ELIAS: I am quite aware, and this is what we are discussing, that you cannot imagine it, that you do not incorporate a concept, that this is not a direction that you can conceivably plan, that it is occurring but you cannot individually plan it. Therefore, it is a matter of allowing and flowing with rather than flowing against, and one of the flowing-withs rather than against is not to concern yourself and worry in relation to lack.

RODNEY: Iíve been practicing that all my life.

ELIAS: And it is a matter of continuing, but in a different manner now. For now it appears that there is a threat, but there actually is not. You perceive there is a threat, for it is a change; but it actually is not a threat. It is a movement into precisely what you want. You are generating precisely what you want, and you are terrified. (Laughter)

JEN: What happened to me, I have a wonderful life, all the money is there and everything, but I am so flipping scared, Iím shaking. There is this huge contract, excellent success, and weíre just freaking out. But every time something so good happens, do you still get scared?

ELIAS: For you doubt the reality of it. It cannot be real, for it is too excellent, and in that, I do not deserve too excellent. Only special individuals deserve too excellent, not ordinary individuals. But none of you are ordinary, and all of you are exquisite. Therefore, you are all deserving of extraordinary!


FEMALE: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Yes, for all that you do is interconnected. I have expressed this many, many, many times, but I am also aware that many of you at this point do not necessarily entirely understand that or recognize that. For you view actions as imagery, and they may incorporate different subjects or different types of imagery, but it matters not. What connects them is your energy, and all that you do is interconnected.

Therefore, if you are paying attention to an abundance of pebbles in your garden, or you are paying attention to the abundance of foods that you store in your home, or you are noticing the abundance of friends that you interact with, or the abundance of energy that you incorporate when you are generating an action that you genuinely enjoy Ė it matters not Ė that is creating an energy. When you are creating an energy that is focused in a particular direction, that is what you manifest in all of your directions. It spills into other expressions, such as money.

When you are generating a continuous attention and concentration upon lack, as I have expressed many times Ė I have not enough money, I have not enough time, I have not enough friends, I have not enough energy, I have not enough milk, I have not enough bread Ė when you are concentrating upon lack, you create that, and you create more and more of it, for that is the energy that you are projecting.

When you are concentrating upon appreciation and upon what you do have and what you are generating and acknowledging that, that creates a very different energy, and energy is key, for it is what MOVES what you create, for it attracts what matches it.

DANIIL: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Correct, for you attract what you express in energy. This is one of the most difficult elements for most individuals to recognize, for you do not see energy. Therefore, you are not always aware of what your energy is doing or how it is being expressed. This is the reason that I have expressed many times, your greatest indicator of what your energy is is to be paying attention to what you are actually doing, not necessarily what you are feeling. At times, what you are feeling may correlate, but feeling is not always an indicator of what your energy is doing and how it is being expressed.


CURT: If we learn to create the feelings intending what youíre experiencing, then as you learn to create those feelings, do we not generate what weíre feeling, do we not generate that physically?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the situation and the individual; not necessarily. An individual can be feeling quite agitated or distressed, and actually be generating an energy quite differently that would attract to them more pleasurable or more satisfying situations.

CURT: Which comes first... (inaudible).

ELIAS: That is not a feeling. That is the energy, and energy is not a feeling. You can feel energy, but it is not a feeling. Generally, energy that you can feel is expressed by another individual or some situation involving living manifestations. Most individuals do not attune themselves to feeling the energy of objects. Some individuals do, but most individuals do not. Other energies of living manifestations are more obvious to all of you, and you can feel them more strongly.

In that, yes, if you were attuned to feeling energy, you would offer yourself clearer information in relation to any particular situation, for you would be aware of what is occurring, and you would be aware of what your energy is doing and how it is participating in that situation.

CURT: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: That would be listening to your intuition, and I would be advocating of that.


VERONICA: Elias, I feel like I have a (inaudible) attached to my body, and itís sending out rippling energy layers. It distracts me, because I think why is it happening and am I allowing your words to come through or am I fighting them? Is it a conflict situation or is it merely a concentration of how I feel, my body consciousness? What could I be doing? Is this beneficial, or is it just a matter of allowing it?

ELIAS: Allowing. Distraction is not bad. There is much distraction occurring recently, and it is not bad. In actuality, it can be very beneficial, for it allows you not to concentrate upon what you have not assimilated yet. Therefore, it allows you to not frustrate yourself and allows you to experience being comfortable in the midst of confusion or in the midst of unknowing.

JEN: ... I have a question about bridging. (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Yes. Bridging is your allowance of yourself to express your own ability to stop and pay attention to the different languages that individuals speak, and rather than incorporating the direction of attempting to force individuals to speak your language or to expect them to speak your language, to incorporate the ability to listen and understand their language.

This is the reason that I expressed that individuals that are thought-focused or politically-focused would incorporate much more difficulty in this wave and much more confusion and possibly trauma in this wave. Not every individual incorporates the ability to be a bridger. Not every individual can accomplish that, for the differences of focus types allow you different abilities, different qualities. You are not all the same, and in this particular wave, these individuals would not incorporate the ability, for the most part, to be a bridger, whereas individuals such as yourself can be, for you process and assimilate and interact more abstractly. Therefore, you can incorporate more differences, more translations. You can translate in more of a diverse manner.

Individuals that are thought-focused or politically-focused do not incorporate that abstractness to allow them to translate in more diverse manner. They are more rigid and in some manners more absolute, for they are more literal. Individuals that are emotionally-focused or religiously-focused are more abstract, and therefore incorporate more flexibility in communication. This is what allows them to be bridgers, which is significant, for that is, in your terms, in this time much needed.Ē [session 2658, October 25, 2008]

ďNow; I will express that presently you may be experiencing somewhat of a paradox, in that you may be beginning to experience slightly more of an extreme of this direction but simultaneously incorporating a feeling of being upon a threshold and incorporating an inner knowing that you are buoying yourself, you are floating, that you are not drowning and that you will not, and that you are moving in the direction in which the flow will become more natural and easier. A significant factor in that is that you have chosen your new wave.

TERRI: Was I correct in thinking it was the scientific wave?


TERRI: Itís the religious wave?


TERRI: I thought there were only two left!


TERRI: Did we create a new one?

ELIAS: No. As you may be aware, these waves are being expressed in conjunction with the belief systems.

TERRI: Duplicity wave?

ELIAS: No, you have already accomplished that.

Now; in association with belief systems, I would be reminding that there are ten belief systems, and in that, nine of which are associated or represented by one essence family to each of nine belief systems. The tenth is associated or represented by all of the essence families.

Now; in this, you have chosen collectively to engage a new and different expression with this wave, for you have chosen to incorporate two belief systems rather than one, but these two move very much in conjunction with each other. I will be offering much more expansive information in relation to this subject very soon, for it has been chosen. Therefore, this present wave is ending. The new wave will be addressing to the belief system of senses, and the universe and creation.

TERRI: Which moves us more in the direction of the Shift. What I was reading the other day, weíre going to become more interested in where we came from and what else is out there, so that makes sense.

ELIAS: Yes. This is a significant wave, for this is a wave that is moving you into the direction of expanding.

Now; I will also express that this wave can potentially be fun and potentially very interesting. It offers an opportunity for significant playfulness with perception and reality, for this wave is moving you in the direction of interests that to this point have been somewhat fantasy, such as teleportation, exploring other dimensions, exploring your own dimension in much greater capacity, moving in the direction of new, innovative inventions, and changing the manner in which you proceed with your reality, which will also move you in more of a direction to address to the construct of your reality, which includes that factor of exchange. Therefore, this particular wave will be opening new windows into a significant expansion, which will also be more of a preparation for science and religious, that they may not be as traumatic.

TERRI: Thatís cool. So, is that why weíve been experiencing more of an awareness lately?

ELIAS: I would agree. Some individuals may be aware of some energy surges at times, which may be brief but incorporate some intensities. In this, that is not unusual, for you are ushering in a significant wave and especially that you have chosen to be addressing to two belief systems rather than one, which creates more of an intensity of energy. The build in energy can be incorporated in a very inspiring direction, for this energy can be used in a manner that can be very motivating and inspiring, if you allow yourselves to follow yourselves. If you are following attachments, you may experience considerable frustration.Ē [session 3007, September 21, 2010]

ELIAS: ďGood afternoon!

GROUP: Good afternoon, Elias!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) We began this new wave with the identification, for the most part, of the first aspect of it which was addressing to the belief system of senses. And in this time framework from the announcement of this wave we have been discussing that aspect of this wave Ė senses Ė how affecting they are, how intricate they are, how absolute they are, and in that, how they are your main avenue for triggers for associations. We have engaged several conversations in relation to that subject. If you are all remembering when I introduced this new wave I expressed to you that there are TWO belief systems being addressed in this wave in difference to other waves previously. This wave concerns senses and also the creation of universe. Or creation AND universe.

Now; this is the second aspect of this wave and we have not discussed this aspect of this present wave. But when this wave began most of you were not quite ready, yet, in experience to be inputting information in relation to the second aspect of this present wave, which is creation and the universe. Now you have incorporated enough time to be experiencing this present wave and paying attention to senses, but also moving forward in shifting. And many of you are beginning to experience the second aspect of this particular wave.

Now; the point of shifting and the point of these waves in consciousness are to offer you avenues in which you will be becoming more aware of self. And in shifting, one great action that you are engaging is becoming aware of the difference in identity between attachments and your genuine self, and what your genuine self is, and therefore, who you are as your genuine self without the attachments that you are familiar with that you have previously defined yourself with in relation to who you are.

Attachments, as we have discussed previously, are not expressions that you are necessarily eliminating for they do serve a purpose in some capacities. We used the example of independence as one attachment and that there are influences of that attachment that may be hindering to you, but there are also other influences that you may choose to continue to engage, that you may actually appreciate certain aspects of this particular attachment, as with any attachment. But the point is the recognition of attachments and therefore generating a new ability to see beyond those attachments that cover your genuine self in very similar manner to a shell. And in that, the type of shell of, let us say a snail.

The snail generates a shell which serves a significant purpose, but is the shell actually the genuine essence of the snail? No. In this, a snail lives within the confines of the shell and uses the shell for protection and also for storage. And in that, it benefits the snail, but the snail is very soft and vulnerable within the shell.

You, within yourselves, incorporate the essence of yourself which is your genuine self, which is covered by the shell of attachments. Attachments incorporate their uses, but they are not to be mistaken as your identity for they are not. They are not who you are. They may influence what you express or what you do, but they are not who you are.

You are moving into a new direction, a new age, of discovery and expression of your genuine self. And in that, there are some very significant changes Ė very significant changes Ė that you will incrementally become aware of, and the purpose of this discussion is to clarify those changes that they may be easier for you to identify and for you to move through.

One very significant change that is occurring that is different expressed by your genuine self, is passion. Passion, to this point in your reality - and Iím not merely speaking of all of you present here, but throughout your history, through the history of your species as humans - passion has been motivated by outside goals. What you strive for. What you strive to do. How you motivate yourself to move farther, regardless of what it is.

One passion that you all share at some point in your existence in this physical reality, commonly, that you can most obviously identify is sexual. You understand sexual energy. You understand sexual passion. You know what that is. You know what it feels. And you may think that that is not motivated by goals. Oh yes it is. Even in the act of engaging sexual activity with yourself or with other individuals, in any capacity, it is goal-oriented. You are striving for a particular outcome, a particular feeling, a particular sensation. And in that the point is goal is defined by what you do not already possess. There is no point in striving if you already possess, even in a simple passion such as sexual energy. You do not already possess a climax. Therefore, you strive to express it! And to experience it and to feel it. This is merely an obvious, easy example.

Even your most holiest of monks and priests that deny all physical attachments are goal-oriented. They strive for nirvana. They strive for enlightenment. They strive for heaven. This is an expression that you have developed throughout the history of your species. You are always striving for what you perceive you do not already possess.

Now; this is a very different and immense change that is occurring, for in the recognition of genuine self and in the being of genuine self and expressing from that beingness, you know you already possess all. Therefore, the passion and the motivation is not goal-oriented. It is generated very differently. It is not the attainment of what you do not have, or what you do not possess, or what you have not expressed yet. It is the movement and the choices of expressing any passion in new manners or in whatever manner you choose. But the point is that the passion exists, but in a very different capacity. And it is expressed, but also in a very different capacity. This is creating. This is creation. And this is your universe.

The formula for creating is very simple. And this is the basis of your genuine self. And the formula includes three components: you project energy, you reflect energy, and you either react to the reflection or you choose in relation to the reflection. This is the formula. This is the basis of your genuine self. This is the other belief system, creation and your universe. For all of your universe has sprung from each of you, individually, differently, in configuration, similar, but not all the same. And each expression of your universe has been projected long before you see it by what you projected in energy first.

Now; the reason this is so very much important is this is the manner in which you create your reality. If you want the secret to how you create your reality it is this formula. This is it. And in this formula, the most difficult aspect is the projecting or the awareness of the projecting. The projecting is easy, you do it continuously. Every moment you are projecting energy. Knowing or being aware of what type of energy you are projecting in any moment is not as easy for it is very unfamiliar to you. It is not hidden from you, for you have created this marvelous design in your reality in which every moment that you project you are reflecting. Therefore, the reflection of what you are doing is always in front of you. How you pay attention to that reflection is questionable. What you do with that reflection is the tricky aspect, for what you generally do with most reflections is react to them!

Now; let me also clarify. In many times, your reactions are not necessarily what you would perceive to be bad. They are automatic reactions.

Let me offer a very simple example. If you choose to travel a short distance to a specific designation and you choose to engage a vehicle of some type. An automobile, a train, it matters not. Long before you leave your home you have already projected energy to configure interacting with your mode of transportation. If you are engaging an automobile it will be physically in the location you expect it to be. When you enter it and you place your key in the ignition and you turn the key, for the most part, you will engage the engine in the manner that you expect it to be engaged for you have already projected that energy for those actions to occur. Once the engine engages you have reflected what you projected and you react by driving the vehicle. Those are reactions. You are not intentionally objectively aware of choosing to engage the vehicle. You merely do it. You are reacting to your senses in relation to the vehicle, the energy that you projected, and the reflection that occurred.

Now; let us change this simple scenario slightly. You leave your home. You move to your vehicle. You enter it. You place the key in the ignition and it does NOT engage the engine. And it generates a strange sound. And you are conflicted and baffled. And you react again, but in a different manner. Now you react in frustration, or irritation, or confusion, and you begin thinking, and you are anticipating your destination, and the time framework, and you begin to include many, many other ideas and feelings that are now changing your energy more. You were already projecting an energy that included some type of agitation that affected the reflection to engage a malfunction with the vehicle. You were already projecting that. Now you compound that and you begin projecting a more agitated energy and likely speaking, from that point, your day will include significant challenges, or many small challenges, but it will be a series of challenges, for you are already projecting that energy of dissatisfaction.

Within that day, for the most part, do you think to yourself, do you evaluate, ďMy first reflection was with the vehicle and it was not functioning in the manner that I expected. What was I doing before I engaged the vehicle?Ē Generally, no. Generally, you continue with your day and you continue to meet each reflection in a manner that includes some type of agitation.

Now; you can approach this formula from one end or from the other end - the beauty of this formula. You can approach this formula from the end to the beginning or from the beginning to the end. You can pay attention to your reactions and evaluate what you are reacting to in the reflection and thereby begin to evaluate what you were projecting that created that reflection. Or you can approach the formula from the other direction and you can pay attention to what you are doing, and therefore what you are projecting, and therefore not be surprised by the reflection, and choose what you do in relation to the reflection.

There are two components of paying attention to what type of energy you are projecting. It is a matter of paying attention to what you are doing and what you are feeling in the moment. Not either of those exclusively. If you are only paying attention to what you are feeling you are likely to offer yourself misinformation. If you are only paying attention to what you are doing, once again, you are likely to offer yourself misinformation. It is only the combination of these two expressions that offers you accurate information in relation to what your energy is doing.

Now; there are also two aspects to what you are feeling. There is the what you are feeling now in this moment in relation to what you are doing physically. And what is the underlying feeling? What is the ongoing feeling that may be occurring? This is directly related to associations.

In my previous group interaction I explained that there is a difference between now-feelings and then-feelings. Then-feelings are the feelings that accompany associations. And with some then-feelings, some associations are different than other associations, which we discussed.

Within certain time frameworks of your physical lifetime, your physical focus, there is a period of time from birth through Ė not to, but through Ė adolescence. This time framework you generate associations and experiences differently than you do within the rest of your existence in one focus, for you have not yet developed attachments in those ages. In not having attachments yet, you are generating more from the perspective of genuine self. How many of you are familiar Ė all of you Ė with adolescents and how difficult they may be in your perceptions? And if you have not encountered other individuals as adolescents you know yourselves as adolescents, and all of the qualities that are ascribed to being an adolescent. And in that, you are within a point of your existence that you are developing and moving closer to adopting and developing attachments, but you have not yet. This is the reason that individuals within those years of existence are so volatile, that they express such intensity of feelings, but are desperately attempting to function and to behave as if they had attachments. They are moving close to them, but they have not developed them yet.

In all of those years of your existence your body consciousness mechanism to alert you to danger or threat is expressed in a manner that is more obvious and more intense, for it is the little snail without the shell. Therefore, any danger to the shell, to the snail without the shell, is perceived to be much more grave than with the shell. Those experiences, those memories, those associations are held differently in the body consciousness than other associations. They are held surfacely, therefore they are easily triggered. They are, in a manner of speaking Ė regardless of whether you objectively recall the associations or the experiences, it matters not Ė the memory is held in the body consciousness in a very surface manner which creates a vulnerability.

When you generate experiences in that time framework before you have developed attachments, you carry those associations with you. And they are very easily triggered. And they are triggered considerably, repeatedly, throughout your lifetime. And the one most significant manner in which they are triggered, for the most part the only manner in which they are triggered, is through one of your senses. Any of your senses. Your senses are continuously inputting information every minute of your existence, regardless of whether you are waking or sleeping, your senses are always inputting information. And that information triggers these surface memories. Once again, regardless of whether you recall objectively those memories or not, they are being triggered. In this, they influence you in how you create whatever you are creating in your reality. In this, this is that aspect of the formula, the two parts of what you feel. There is what you feel now in relation to what you are doing now, but also the inclusion of what you are feeling in relation to old associations that are very present.

Therefore, evaluating what type of energy you are projecting is a matter of paying attention to what you are doing outwardly and what you are doing inwardly. What you are doing inwardly is what you are feeling and what you are engaging, not necessarily what you are thinking. For in relation to feelings, thinking can be very distorted. Thinking is a translating mechanism. In translating it always seeks information to translate. If it has no new information it will seek out old information to translate and repeat it. Therefore, it may not be accurate in relation to what you are actually doing.

But the feelings are very real and they may not be overt or extreme. They may be very subtle, but they are present, and they exist. Paying attention to these feelings is an important part to evaluate what type of energy you are generating in the moment and therefore, what you are affecting in your reality, what you are creating.

Another factor in this, which is a part of expressing from genuine self, is the dropping of this expression of separation that you automatically express between what is outside of you and what is within you. There is no separation between what you project and what you reflect. Therefore, there is also no separation between what is outside of you and what you are doing inside of you. This is another significant change and can be very challenging for you are very accustomed to viewing whatever is outside of you as being outside of you and different and not the same as what is inside of you. And it is not different. It is merely the physical projection of what you are doing, what you are expressing, and whatever you directly engage in your reality, regardless of what it is. This room that you are presently occupying, for each one of you, before you stepped into this room you already projected energy to configure it and you personalized it. You placed your signature upon it. Therefore, it reflects precisely in every minute detail, to every thread in the rug, to every grain in the wood, to every aspect of the room, you personally configured in detail in creating that reflection of what you have projected.

Now; in like manner, surrounding this room that you occupy, that you have personally each created, there are many other structures, other buildings, other configurations of manifestations. You are aware of them. They exist. Whether you are paying attention to them or not, they exist. But in a manner of speaking, figuratively, they are somewhat of a blur. They exist, but they are periphery, for you are not personally engaging them. Therefore, it is not necessary for you to be entirely detailed. You may in your reality create the faÁade of a building and not necessarily project the detailed energy of what is included inside of the building. It exists in your reality, but it is not as detailed as what you are actually physically engaging.

But that physical manifestation, such as this room, was created before you even arrived. You already projected the energy whether you incorporate a thinking idea of its appearance, or not, it matters not. You so effectively and efficiently projected that energy to create the room, the building, in every minute detail, that when you enter it, it is all formed. And it matters not whether you are personally engaging an aspect of your reality in a physical location, or a picture, or a song. It matters not. You are personally engaging that in the moment, and therefore you have created its history. You have created its configuration. What, how it appears. What occurs with it. You have created all of it. There is no separation between what is outside of you and what is inside of you.

Yes, you interact with other individuals, and you are all interconnected, and you each generate your own choices, and you do not create other individualsí realities, but you do create the image of every other individual within this room. You arenít creating them, but you are creating your own image of them, your version of them. And yes, they are interacting with you. But you have projected, already, an energy to specifically include those specific particular individuals in your interaction in each moment rather than fifty other individuals. You have specifically drawn those particular individuals to be interacting with. You can choose between billions of individuals. You have chosen these, each one. You have projected an energy and attracted, or drawn like a magnet, those energies that match and those are the other individuals present. In all of their differences, in all of their expressions, in all of their different forms, they each match what you projected, and therefore they are present for you drew them.

There is not one aspect of your reality that you have not already projected before you even engage it. This is creation. This is how it operates. This is how it functions. This is what you do without even thinking. You do it automatically, easily. It is not difficult. Did you think to yourselves of every individual in this room and visualize every single form? No. Was it effort for you to create all of these different individuals? Was it an effort to construct the building? No. You merely did it. And I hear so very often how difficult it is to create my reality! (Laughter) You do it continuously with no thought and no effort. And how difficult it is to create what I want in my reality (with mock anguish). Use your own examples. How easy is it for you to create what you do not want? You create that very easily and very powerfully. At times you may even be miserable in relation to what you do not want that you created with no effort and no thinking. And you can create what you do want as easily and with as little thinking. It is merely a matter of being aware of what you are doing and paying attention to what you are expressing. That is the key.

Now; I will also express to you that another factor in creating your reality being expressed from genuine self, as it is not goal-oriented, a significant change is the recognition that all that you do is actually a choice. And one choice is not necessarily better than another choice if it accomplishes what you want to experience. It is your beliefs, your experiences, your associations that shape that idea of what is a better experience and what is not a better experience. What choice is a better choice to accomplish what you want, and what choice is not very good? In actuality, it matters not. A choice is a choice, and if it accomplishes what you want, it matters not. It is your guidelines that decide whether it is good or bad.

Iím not advocating anarchy (Laughter), but I am expressing a point that expressing from the genuine self, many of those lines of rigidness, what you consider to be better or worse, are very blurred for you are not operating from that perspective. You are not concerning yourself with what is right, or what is wrong, or what I should or should not. Those are goal-oriented. You are concerning yourself more with who am I and what do I want to express? And how do I want to express in any capacity? What is interesting to me? What is my curiosity? What do I want to explore?

And in that, exploration is generally not a consideration of whether it is right or wrong. It is an exploration. You are discovering. How can you evaluate what is right or wrong if you do not know what it is? If you are discovering it you have not generated an association yet. What is an association? That evaluation of an experience that includes a judgment of good or bad. Is this experience good or is this experience bad? Is it comfortable or uncomfortable? That is an association. You do not have an association for what you have not experienced. It is new. It is a discovery. This is the perspective of genuine self. The newness even within what is known. It is always an expansion. It is the new.

In that, this aspect of this present wave Ė creation and the universe Ė you are the universe and you are continuously creating. And you shall be creating very differently very soon. You are stepping your toes into your ocean, embarking upon the new journey to traverse the ocean. But all you have engaged thus far are your toes and you have an immense, vast expanse in front of you to explore. And in that exploration it is important to know what you are setting into. What is the new adventure? And the new adventure is expressing creation and how you develop your universe. What will it be? How will it be configured? How will it be expressed? What new stars will you discover? What new nebulas? And what new expressions in interaction with each other in recognition of your interconnectedness, which becomes not a threat any longer, but an expression to be embraced and appreciated for it is support. For the more you embrace that interconnectedness the more you bring to you supportiveness and you are not alone.Ē [session 3074, October 22, 2011]

Note: this is the second of two parts on waves in consciousness. Go to waves in consciousness, pt. 1.

End Notes:

(23) Paulís note: Rodney refers to the street protests that took recently place in major cities across the United States by people supporting the roughly 11-12 million illegals who perform many jobs at substandard salaries that are crucial to current economic health. It is a very complex election year issue that involves the porous southern border with Mexico, the Bush administrationís fear-driven ďwar on terror,Ē US taxpayers footing the bill for illegal's health care and education, US companies that don't want to pay full wages and cut corners for profits, the growing Spanish-speaking presence in US demographics, racism, xenophobia, etc.

(24) Paulís note: even though Elias goes on to give the formula as ďpay attention to what you are doing,Ē this is only the most recent variation of a method I now call NIRAA (pronounced nigh-rah) that stands for four basic actions: 1. Notice, 2. Identify/Recognize, 3. Address to, 4. Accept. Notice that Elias concentrates on the first two actions in this session almost exclusively. Addressing to and accepting inevitably follow, but it is clear that Elias is hammering away at the basics. I marvel at how he patiently and persistently he repackages the same essential ideas he has been discussing since the session first began in 1995. This technique does help us work with his process of accepting self from different angles.

Library: find out more the NIRAA method.

(25) Bobbiís note: the Chicago Elias group session 1799, July 16, 2005.

(26) Paulís note: a reference to parapsychologist Dean Radinís new book Entangled Minds: Extrasensory Experiences in a Quantum Reality (2006).

Digests Ė see also: | absolutes | accepting self | acceptance 101 | acceptance 102 | appreciation | aspects of essence; an overview | attention (doing and choosing) | avenues of communication | being in the now | belief systems; an overview | bleed-through | blueprints | camouflage | choices/agreements | counterpart action; individual | creature consciousness | dimension | dimensional veils | dis-ease and healing | disengage (ďdeathĒ) | distortion | duplicity | Dream Walkers; an overview | effortlessness | energy centers (body) | equations | essence; an overview | essence families; an overview (Sumafi/Seers,Sumari/Speakers, Vold/Hearers) | essence families; belonging to/aligning with | fear | focus of essence; an overview | forum | fun & pleasure! | information | inner senses; an overview | imagery | ďkarmaĒ | manifestation | mass events | mirror action | noticing self | objective/subjective awareness | perception | probabilities | prophecy | Regional Areas of consciousness; an overview | Regional Area 1 | Regional Area 2 | relationships | religious era | religion (spirituality) | Rose; an overview | separation | Seth/Jane Roberts | sexuality and emotion | sexuality; gender, orientation, and preference | shift in consciousness | simultaneous time | Source Events | time frameworks | transition | trauma of the shift in consciousness | trusting self | truth | unofficial information | victims_perpetrators | widening awareness | you create your reality |

Note: this is the second of two parts on waves in consciousness. Go to waves in consciousness, pt. 1.

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