the Elias forum: Digests of Essential Elias.











Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “You create your own reality! You choose your own choices for your own experiences, within each moment of physical existence. Therefore, you are not the victim of your past experiences, so to speak. In this, you engage another belief system; that you have been taught and influenced, throughout your focus, by other individuals who have exercised control over you; for obviously, you incorporate no mind of your own, and absolutely no free will! Therefore, you are reduced to nothing but the product of your experiences! This is incorrect! You have chosen your experiences, just as all other individuals choose their experiences. You do not hold the ‘better way.’ You hold the different way.” [session 102, June 30, 1996]

ELIAS: “The expression of victim is the identification of the lack of choice. It is not negative, it is not bad. It is merely the identification that you in the moment are not presenting to yourself the availability of choice, and this is your expression of freedom, the offering of choice.

And you block your choices continuously. You express to yourselves you cannot – not that you may not, not that you will not, but that you cannot – that there are some expressions within your reality that are impossible. (Continues softly) And I express to you, what glorious freedom you actually hold, for there is no expression within your reality that is impossible.

... If you are offering yourself the recognition that you hold choice in the moment that you are associating that you do not hold choice, it matters not whether you offer to yourself one other choice or hundreds of other choices. It is the recognition that you are not powerless.” [session 765, January 25, 2001]

ELIAS: “I may express to you, forgiveness is yet again an expression that is not what it appears to be. There are many aspects of your reality that are not what they appear to be.

Forgiveness, in your definition, is an action that you view to be positive and reinforcing and necessary to be moving into acceptance. I may express to you, this is the wolf in sheep’s clothing, for forgiveness, in actuality, is the discounting of another individual, expressing within yourself that another individual has wronged or hurt or been injurious to you. No other individual may be those expressions to you, for essences are not intrusive, and you create all of your reality. Therefore if you are experiencing injury, you have created that within yourself. Another individual does not create that against you. This is a facet of your perception and the power of your perception.

In this, forgiveness discounts another individual and expresses that there is some element concerning the other individual that needs be fixed, or that they are inadequate in their expression, or that they are wrong – and there is no wrong. It also discounts you, for as you move into an expression of forgiveness with another individual, you are discounting your own choices and your ability to adequately create your reality without incorporating the role as a victim.

... It is also another expression of reinforcing ‘victim.’ For if you are a victim, you have created an inability for choice, and your perception of this is inadequate or wrong or bad.” [session 848, June 09, 2001]

ELIAS: “... Every individual upon your planet is expressing an energy, and each individual expresses an alignment with a good and bad expression, right and wrong behaviors. This is the point of what we have been discussing, in recognizing that you are not eliminating your beliefs.

I am not expressing to you that you do not express good or bad or right or wrong, but recognize that these are beliefs. They are not absolutes. There is no absolute right, there is no absolute wrong, and no individual is a victim and no individual attacks another individual, for this suggests that another individual may create your reality, and another individual may NOT create your reality. You create all of your reality in every moment, in every expression. Therefore, who is the perpetrator? Who is the expression of evil? Who is the terrorist?

If you have created imagery of terrorism, YOU have created it and you are it. You are also the victim.” [session 917, October 06, 2001]

ELIAS: “You all incorporate expressed beliefs. All that you do, all that you generate, all that you express is filtered through beliefs. They are not your enemy. They are not bad. They merely are. They are an aspect of the blueprint of this reality. Therefore, you express through these beliefs as they influence your perception and you allow yourself to recognize your preferences which motivate you in certain directions. Preferences are merely preferred beliefs.

As you allow yourself to express those preferred beliefs, you motivate yourself in movements in different directions and in cooperation – NOT CO-CREATION – but in cooperation with other individuals that incorporate similar expressed beliefs.

The individual that incorporates the action of seeking out a physician to be healed of an illness is expressing their beliefs in association with their confidence in another individual to perform that action. The physician is expressing their beliefs in allowing their abilities to be in cooperation with the individual that incorporates the illness, and in the cooperation of the action, yes, the individual that is incorporating the illness is actually healing themself – for no individual may create another individual’s reality – but in that cooperation of actions, in the expressed beliefs of both individuals, they generate certain outcomes.

The expressed beliefs of the physician are not bad. They fit within your societies, within your construct of your reality. The individual that incorporates the illness is also generating expressed beliefs that also fit within the construct of your reality in the official accepted reality. It is a cooperation.

This is another misunderstanding in association with this shift in consciousness. This shift in consciousness is a design that allows you to widen your awareness, identify your beliefs, therefore allowing you to incorporate moving your attention to all of the beliefs that are available to you, and therefore allowing you to expand your abilities and recognize what you do incorporate in your abilities and therefore expand your exploration.

It is NOT being generated to create Utopia. It is NOT an ending of conflict. But if you generate conflict, you shall incorporate that action intentionally and KNOW that you are generating the conflict and why, and that it is a choice.

Therefore, what becomes eliminated in this widening of awareness is what you may term to be your own involuntary victims – which are not precisely involuntary, but in your truths you assess that there are involuntary victims. If you choose to be a victim, you shall know that you are choosing to be a victim, and you shall know that you have chosen that action quite intentionally to experience.” [session 1368, June 07, 2003]

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “Each of you listens to the concept of ‘you create your reality.’ As we have stated previously, this is a concept, within your way of thinking; for each choice that you engage also engages an element of unofficial information. You do not recognize the unofficial information, for you do not allow your attention to perceive this information. Therefore, you are not always satisfied with your choices. I say to you, if you are looking to yourselves you shall view that every breath that you engage, every choice, no matter how small within your perception you may view it to be, is a conscious choice.

We have spoken previously that you are not a victim of a subconscious direction. You are not being led through this focus by spirits and subjective information that you are unaware of. The communication within the whole of your consciousness is precise. It is extremely efficient, creative, and communicative.

You choose objectively. You may express to yourselves a lack of understanding as to your choices, but you choose consciously. What you seek to understand presently is the direction of probabilities which are influencing of your choices. This is the direction of the unofficial information. As you begin to look to all of the aspects of unofficial information that surround you continuously, you shall offer yourselves more information as to your own directions within your choices of probabilities.

Be remembering also; just as we have stated previously that within religions and philosophies there are bases of truths, one of these is, ‘You shall always answer yourself. You shall always receive what you have asked for.’ Within religions, they express that if you are asking of god, he shall be offering to you. If you are asking, you shall receive an answer; but as you recognize already, you are the one that is answering you, and you shall answer yourself creatively and in a fashion that shall be instructive to you; for no other knows you and your attention and (pause) what will be instructive to you as well as you know yourself. You may view your own creations curiously at times, but you creatively utilize unofficial information to be presenting to yourselves efficient methods, within choices and action and events, to emphasize to yourself what you wish to know. Therefore, if you find yourself within a position of expressing that you experience confusion or lack of understanding or anxiety, you may also look to yourself and you may ask yourself how you have chosen to gain your own attention.

No cosmic entities are pulling strings upon you as puppets! You are your own directors within your own play, and you shall be directing efficiently for your attention. If you ask to widen and you seek this sincerely, you shall bombard yourself with your own belief systems to efficiently accomplish what you have asked of yourself. (Vic’s note: I can certainly attest to the bombarding of belief systems, folks!)

Therefore, your confusion may be addressed in looking to your own questioning of yourself, and examining of all of the unofficial information that you present yourself with continuously, for you do. As you move into confusion, you are more reluctant to be listening to your own unofficial information; but as I have expressed to you previously, if you are listening to the quietness and not allowing yourselves to be caught in the web of the drama, you may hear some of your answers.” [session 152, February 09, 1997]

ELIAS: “I shall recap our shift for you. In very simplified terms, throughout your history upon this planet that you have created you have spent millenniums within each area of consciousness that you have designed to explore. This extends far beyond the time framework that you recognize scientifically. We have spoken of your Seers and your Dream Walkers, and for many millennium this was the focus of your species. Within this time framework, you created much experimentation and exhausted the limitations of that manifestation. As you move to exhausting your creativity within a particular focus or direction within your societies and your creations, you choose collectively to create a new focus, offering yourselves new stimulation and new areas to be expressing creativity. You moved into creating societies of which we have spoken, creating your mythologies and your elaborate, colorful stories.

As you exhaust this creation and become bored, (to Reta) as you have said, within your vast imaginations and creativity you move into a new creation. You choose to create a focus within a time framework which mirrors much more closely what you view yourselves to be. You create a religious-focus with one singular god which mirrors one singular manifestation, as are you. Within this, you do not stifle your growth. You allow yourselves ample time framework to be experiencing and experimenting and exhausting creativity within the framework of the focus.

As you approach a point collectively to which you have created all that you view to be necessary for your experience, you choose to create a new focus. You are aware within essence and your connections, and also within your physical manifestation objectively, that you have accomplished all that may be accomplished within a specific focus. Within your design of counterparts and alternate selves, you have created the probabilities to allow you the experience to view all aspects of the focus. Therefore, you approach what you view to be the end of that particular focus and create a new focus, a new direction, one that allows you the freedom to once again explore and experience anew.

Each time framework within your history has not stifled you. Each focus that you have chosen to create has allowed you creativity and also learning opportunities, in your terms. You view presently in many negative elements of the focus that you have created to this point, for this offers you the explanation to move into a new direction. It offers you motivation to move into new areas of creation. I have expressed to you many times that this focus, this religious-focus that you have created, is not negative. It has served you well, and for millennium you have continued with this set of belief systems. You now, as many times within your history, move into a position of recognition that you have exhausted your creativity within this particular direction. Within essence, your continuing desire is to be creative. You are motivated continuously to be inventive. You are natural explorers. Therefore, you are correct that you are bored, but these are the reasons that you are bored. Furthermore, you choose collectively to be creating of a new element of consciousness within a physical focus. All of your manifestations, in a manner of speaking, are experiments, and once again you experiment with a new area of consciousness within physical focus.” [session 160, March 30, 1997]

VICKI: “This question is from Kaileen [Mary Jane]. ‘First I’d like to tell you that I’m most grateful to be sharing in the information you convey, and that I’m finding it to be very helpful in my understanding. My question has to do with my daughter, and the deep sense of guilt and shame I have about our relationship. I feel as though I was a failure from the beginning in raising her, and that this culminated in the necessity of her leaving ... that she might have stayed longer in this focus had I been less selfish, more tolerant, and better bonded with her. I am discomforted about my own participation in the event of her leaving, and am particularly disturbed about the event when I seemed to have marked the car in which she was hit. I’m also ashamed that she created money for me in her leaving, and that I seem to have squandered it. Although I’ve had access to the information which would resolve this, I have been unable to do so. This event profoundly signifies my lack of self trust, and I seem unable to stop punishing myself. Can you help me with this?’

(Vic’s note: Elias’ delivery in answering this question was quite unusual. Those of us who have been attending sessions for a while noticed a distinct emotional flavor; a profound sadness that we’re not used to.)

ELIAS: Once again, a very strong belief system. Be remembering, each individual creates their own reality. Therefore, this is an agreement and shared experience. There is no victim. It is unnecessary to be channeling energy into belief systems which engage guilt. This is very wasted energy; so very unnecessary for individuals to involve themselves within this expression; for each individual chooses their interaction. Each individual chooses their probabilities and their manifestations. You each create your own reality; and as I have stated previously to you, do you not hold enough to be responsible only for yourself within your own essence, which is infinite? It is so very unnecessary to assume responsibility for another.

[I] express very deep lovingness for inner healing, which shall be directed within. This individual does not gain from the other individual’s expression of guilt. You ask how you may not accomplish value fulfillment within physical focus. Here, within separation; within your individual, private oubliette. You may allow belief systems to be overpowering, and in this you may deny your value fulfillment; which shall make essence weep. But I have stated to you all previously that you may be more harmful to self than any other may ever be harmful to you.

Great affection is extended, and expression of realization that this energy production serves detrimental purposes. It is unnecessary. This is based solely within an alignment of religious belief systems, which are a distortion and what we focus upon for acceptance.” [session 166, April 20, 1997]

RETA: “Within my life and within this forum I can see what you’re saying, but on a daily basis in a workplace where your expectations are to accomplish and to facilitate that accomplishment and you know the one-two-threes of how to do it, the expectations make it run. Expectations, deadlines, just getting in and doing the job makes it run. If I were to sit and wait for them to have acceptance, it might be six months before it got done. So that’s completely different, and that’s how I’ve trained myself. And of course with my family it’s different. But this is a difficult issue, because in the issue of offering helpfulness in this forum I’ve almost decided not to come, and I have a lot to offer. But in becoming a victim of dissent, I will offer nothing.

ELIAS: Let me be reminding you that there are no victims! There is no thing as a victim. You create your reality, as all other individuals create their reality also. If you are looking to self and concerning yourself with self and expressing as the little sapling (1), it should be of no concern to you of other individuals and how they are creating of their reality. Occupy yourself with the creation of your own reality, and being the sapling radiating. Accomplish for self, and you shall not feel as a victim. Be remembering, there are no victims! Another individual may not perpetrate against you without your agreement. Another individual may not accomplish any act involving yourself without your agreement. Therefore, how may you be a victim if you have agreed to draw the experience to yourself?

You may not be creating, as I have stated earlier this evening, of all of the events yourself, but you involve yourself. Therefore, you draw the experience to yourself and you are within agreement ... and you are not a victim! You choose to draw the experience to yourself to offer yourself information of self, to be accomplishing within self more efficiently and therefore to be trusting of self more completely.

BOB: ... As we move more into the shift and there’s a widening of awareness and periphery, will sexual issues, gender issues, be less important? Because they seem to be held more in essence than in belief system, and because we hold them in essence we create belief systems around them. But it strikes me that as we become more aware of the nature of sexuality and gender and that whole arena, that the belief systems seem to sort of break down naturally and are not as critical to be moved through as certain other belief systems, like religion ...

ELIAS: This has already begun. It is a difficult movement, for you have held strong belief systems within centuries of your history. Therefore, movement away from these belief systems shall appear initially to be sluggish, although they are already moving quite swiftly in an acceptance which grows more and more, of your sexuality and the lack of importance of choices of expression within this. If you are expressing within this area and you are not being hurtful, it matters not what you choose as an expression to be manifesting.

BOB: Why the distinction about hurtfulness, if murder isn’t a bad expression?

ELIAS: This being an expression of essence; and as you are moving into your shift and widening your awareness and knowing of this, you shall be moving into an area that you shall not be intentionally being hurtful to each other. Within your belief systems presently, you continue to view this as not an agreement; as victim and perpetrator. Therefore, I qualify that until the time of acceptance of this shift, hurtfulness is unacceptable.” [session 171, May 04, 1997]

ELIAS: “You choose each probability. No thing is thrust upon you. No action is required of you. No interaction is necessary to be continued. It is all a choice. You always hold, within every moment of your being, the choice to be altering of your reality, and you may alter it in whichever direction or manner that you choose. Therefore, I suggest to you that you hold tremendous freedom, for you are not bound by these belief systems that dictate to you that you must be interacting within certain guidelines. You do not manifest within the belief system of karma! There are no ongoing focuses that you must experience, for you have experienced previously the opposite. You are not obligated to be experiencing being a victim simply because you have chosen within another focus to be murderous. You may choose not to be a victim. In like manner, you may choose to be a victim and you must not necessarily hold to also experiencing being murderous. It is all of your choice, and that which you choose to be experiencing.

NORMA: ... So if you want to be fat, you are fat. If you want to be thin, you are thin.

ELIAS: Quite.

NORMA: If you believe in that, then.

ELIAS: Quite.

MARCOS: But it’s a little bit like, every victim that is let’s say murdered wants to be? Or puts himself in a position to be?

ELIAS: Yes. I take issue with your terminology of ‘wanting to be,’ for objectively none of you feel the emotion or feeling of wanting to be hurt or to be hurtful, but you do create agreements within essence and you do choose those experiences. They are not accidental, and they are also not random. If you are engaged within the action of being a victim, you have chosen within agreement to be that victim for that experience, for no experience is bad! They are all neutral. They are all merely experiences, and you hold many, many, many focuses within essence experiencing all simultaneously. Therefore, you are experiencing all aspects of this reality, not only within the action of the focusing of your own essence, but also within all of your aspects, all of your counterparts, which may be held within different essences. Therefore in this, it is merely a choice of the probability in which you personally, within an individual focus, choose to be actualizing yourself.

All ... underline ‘all’ ... experiences are incorporated to you within essence, for you provide yourself with multitudes of avenues to be incorporating experiences. All experiences are experiences. They are not good. They are not bad. They do not hold cause and effect. They do not hold consequence. They are merely experience.” [session 187, June 28, 1997]

NICKY: “My daughter was raped like three years ago when she was touring a third world, and it’s still something that needs to be dealt with, and I view that whenever I read anything like that. I view it and I say, ‘Okay. How can anyone....’

ELIAS: It is quite difficult for you within the confines of your belief systems to be understanding and accepting of these situations. Be remembering that your responses, and the individual within the act, their responses, are quite heavily influenced by your belief systems. Although the individual may choose to engage an action of violence either by participating as the perpetrator or the victim role, objectively within their belief systems they are not presently aware that they have chosen this action. Therefore, they feel that they have been victimized.

NICKY: Or violated! Isn’t there a violation though, when you come upon one’s personhood? When you enter their boundaries, so to speak? Isn’t that a violation of some sort?

ELIAS: Within essence, this is unacceptable; but within essence, this also is not created. Within some physical focuses this is created as an experience physically, which offers you physical, emotional, and mental extremes.

NICKY: Are we so off-balance that we have to go through all these things in order to bring ourselves to the reality that really is? Is that what this is all about? Is it so deep-set involved in all these belief systems that are so deeply rooted that it’s time to uproot it all, and these types of things happen to bring people to that point? I mean, I just have a hard time. I accept it. It’s just that when I think about it, it just seems to be such a violation!

ELIAS: This shall serve within your value fulfillment and motivation within your desire to move into a wider awareness, and therefore be discontinuing these actions.” [session 195, July 18, 1997]

MARGOT: “Why have I created these situations for myself? Just for the experience, and because this is my last lifetime and I’m just doing it ALL?

ELIAS: No. There are several situations within these creations, but they are all connected and all are imagery of the same things. First of all, they are all tied to your fascination with death and bringing yourself many times within this focus almost to the point, but not quite crossing your line.

MARGOT: That’s right! I know those other times!

ELIAS: Therefore, this also is an element of the same thing within your intent in this particular focus, and experiencing all of the different elements of this subject.

MARGOT: And lots of ways to die!

ELIAS: Correct.

MARGOT: Yes. I know exactly what you’re talking about because it’s happened a lot!

ELIAS: You also have chosen to be experiencing the role of the victim in agreement in different manners; but within alignment of your intent, your victimization moves into the area of death. Therefore, you are continuing to be creating in alignment with your intent. Within the last scenario you offer yourself more information, for you also address to belief systems and what you believe to be possible and what you believe to be NOT possible, and offering yourself information that moves beyond what you view to be possible.” [session 241, November 22, 1997]

ELIAS: “Within your dimension, you DO HOLD belief systems of right and wrong. Therefore, they are reality. I am not expressing to you that this is non-reality. It IS reality within this dimension. But I express to you that it is a direct reality influenced by your belief systems. Therefore, I may also express to you that if you are assaulted or molested as a child and engaging in sexual activity with another individual, this is not IN ESSENCE right or wrong. It is merely a choice of experience. It is your belief systems that suggest a right and wrong to you.

You may engage in sexual activity as a small one and if you are not holding belief systems that this be wrong, if other individuals about you within your society are not suggesting to you that this be wrong, you shall not bear psychological affectingness. You merely are affected in what you term to be psychological aspects for the reason that you also dwell within a society that expresses mass belief systems to you that this activity is unacceptable.

As you engage within sexual activity at ANY age, as you begin initially, is it not creating discomfort physically?

HELEN: You mean when you first start to have sex with someone? At the beginning of the actual action?

ELIAS: Correct.

HELEN: Physical discomfort?

ELIAS: At your very first encounter.

HELEN: Oh yeah! You mean when I was a virgin!

ELIAS: It matters not what age you are, but you place belief systems upon small ones and you reinforce these belief systems by expressing that this is more hurtful to a small one.

HELEN: You’re talking about physically, when you have sex for the first time ever?

ELIAS: Correct. You reinforce this belief system also by including psychological hurtfulness. Without the belief system, the small one is not psychologically affected.

HELEN: So you’re saying that there have been, in this physical focus on earth, children that have had sex with adults that have gone unscathed from the experience?

ELIAS: Correct.

HELEN: Because no one told them that it was a shameful, wrong thing?

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: But you’re not talking about instances where people force themselves on children and hurt them?

ELIAS: I am not speaking of what you term to be violent acts.

VICKI: Right. We’re talking two different things here.

ELIAS: This would be a different situation. This is a choice of a victim and a perpetrator.

HELEN: So if you didn’t grow up in a society like that, like most of us didn’t, and you suffer emotional or psychological scars from that ... well, I have a feeling I know what you’re going to say, but how do you get past that and go on to being free sexually?

ELIAS: By allowing yourself to be accepting of self, and recognizing realistically that you create your reality within every moment. There are no victims. I am quite aware that this may seem to you within your belief systems to be harsh and also to be quite difficult to accomplish. I do not express to you within physical focus that you may not be experiencing difficulty in objectifying an acceptance, for this is requiring of your addressing to your own belief systems and accepting all elements of yourself. There is no one element of yourself that is worse or better than any other element of yourself. All of your experience is that which is you, and all of this is acceptable. It is merely your belief systems that suggest to you that SOME of your experiences, some of YOU, is not acceptable.” [session 255, January 04, 1998]

DREW: “Well, I understand that there’s a difference between what I call theory and practice. Basically, here we’re learning theory, which is a little different from objective practice. But isn’t the whole point of this to try to expand and get beyond the illusion of victim and perpetrator and someone being subjected to someone else’s action and activity?

ELIAS: It is to widen your awareness. The perpetrator and the victim are NOT illusions. They are your reality!

DREW: They’re belief systems.

ELIAS: They are belief systems, but they are reality!

DREW: Well, but they would only be reality to those people who held those belief systems.

ELIAS: And do you not hold these belief systems?

DREW: It depends on the situation. There may be a circumstance where ... there are people who murder. Those people obviously have different belief systems than someone who would consider it wrong to murder, I would venture to say.

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

DREW: Not necessarily, but even if there’s ONE person for whom that’s true, then that disproves it as a rule. If we’re creating our own realities and we all have our own belief systems, then everyone’s reality is different based on their belief systems. Would that be correct to say?

ELIAS: In some aspects.

DREW: So if my belief systems differ from someone else’s, then my reality and my vision of what is right and wrong and good and bad will be different from theirs.

ELIAS: Correct.

DREW: So good and bad and right and wrong are not truths.

ELIAS: Correct.” [session 260, January 18, 1998]

ELIAS: “Ah, another area which has become a very strong mass belief system – and we shall rock your world again – your [tobacco] smoking. Individuals have inquired previously, ‘Is this harmful to me?’ Yes, it is harmful to you, in relation to your belief systems. If you are in compliance with the mass belief system and you hold the belief system also that this action is harmful to you, yes, it shall be, for you shall create that; but in itself, no, it is not.

It is merely your belief systems that dictate what you create, but the things in themselves do not hold belief systems. Therefore, how may be they affecting of you in any harmful manner, for nothing that you create is harmful to you. It is merely your belief systems that create the harmfulness, for you do not create harmful elements, for essence is not harmful to self and is not intrusive to any other essence. Therefore, how shall you be creating of any element that is hurtful to you, except within the expressions and the influences of your belief systems.

Therefore, I answer to you: Yes, to you there are actions that are acceptable and there are actions that are not acceptable. There are directions to be followed and directions not to be followed. You shall not be harmful to another individual and murder them, for this is unacceptable. I express to you, if you shall be engaging the action of murdering another individual, you are in agreement to be experiencing a role of perpetrator and victim for that experience, and it IS a choice and it IS an agreement. [Therefore] what is the right or wrong? There is none. It is merely an experience, and each experience is purposefully chosen by each individual for their own benefit; not necessarily pleasure, but benefit.” [session 284, May 30, 1998]

DONOVAN: “… I got a ... well, I got two perceptions. Aliska, is that her name? The other focus?

ELIAS: Malita.

DONOVAN: Oh, Malita?


DONOVAN: Okay, Malita. I got the impression that she has a great deal of hatred towards men, and was perhaps raped or abused very badly, to the point where she cut off all sexuality for the remainder of her focus. And a portion of her – or probabilities or something of her – is aware of me as a focus of her, and there’s some anger towards me, I was perceiving, which reminded me a lot of the way that I was raised by my mother. And if there is a similarity there, I wonder if that’s some challenge that I’ve presented myself to deal with in being born a man in this lifetime, but feeling the guilt of the anger of women that I’m connected to, be it a focus that is my own or even a mother that I’ve chosen to have, and it’s causing me a lot of confusion with my sexuality and relating to women. I was wondering if you could comment on that or help me with that.

ELIAS: Yes. Now; I express to you that you have purposefully manifest in this manner. I also express to you that you are correct in your association with this other focus, and also once again in relation to the individual that you have chosen to be in relationship with as your mother.

Now; this presents itself in one respect, as you state, as a challenge. But in another respect, you have offered yourself this experience as an opportunity – one, as an opportunity to view that there is no karma. You are not repaying or creating restitution for what you view to be past experiences. You owe no thing to any individual and you are not creating the payoff, so to speak, of debt.

In this, you lend energy to that focus of Malita in helpfulness to be comforting, and also in recognition that within what she identifies as spirituality, she also is more than she appears, and this offers her information in the direction that all that she projects outwardly to other individuals, she also projects to self, for you are an element of her and she is an element of you.

Therefore, there is within that focus a partial rejection of this energy which you lend to her, for this entails the recognition and the identification of responsibility of her individual focus, that she is not a victim but that she is creating of her reality also, and that there is in actuality no separation and all is interconnected within consciousness.

Therefore, each action and each projection of energy which is created is affecting of all of consciousness, of which she and you are a part.

This also offers you the opportunity to be accessing a remembrance of that focus, identifying with the emotional qualities of that focus and the recognition of certain elements of what you in physical terms express as bitterness. This offers you more of an understanding, and in this understanding, you may also be creating compassion and a knowing of the experience, which may be subsequently offered in outward expression to the individual of your mother. It may also be projected inwardly to yourself in a healing element, in allowing yourself to be accepting of self, recognizing that you have created no hurtfulness merely by manifesting in this particular focus as male gender, that these are perceptions of other individuals and they may hold certain areas of a lack of acceptance, but this is an expression from their beliefs in the area of identifying victimization.

No individual is a victim. You all create your reality equally with no exception, and in this, each of you chooses the experiences that you shall engage, and in those experiences, it is merely your beliefs that identify them as bad and wrong, and it is your own lack of acceptance of self that creates hurtfulness, not a projection of another individual. Therefore, in this you offer yourself the opportunity to be allowing yourself acceptance within yourself, the elimination of the identification of guilt, the elimination of the underlying identification of karma, and the freedom to be accepting of other individuals, recognizing that regardless of their expression, this is not necessarily a reflection upon you as the individual that you have chosen to be. Are you understanding?

DONOVAN: I think I am. And along the same lines of sexuality and stuff like that, I had a dream, a really jarring dream, a few months ago, where I was walking with somebody who was similar to me, but was another individual. We both had this sort of dark, scary kind of make-up on, sort of androgynous, I guess, in sort of a scary way, and we were walking, and I pulled down my pants and I had this black blood covering my genitalia, and the guy like sort of gave a sinister laugh. We walked into this house, and there was two old ladies who were also sort of like twins, and apparently the police were coming or something, and I don’t really understand this, but apparently we had raped these two small cats. I looked in the mirror and I looked at myself, and I felt sleazy and weird-looking and I had all this make-up on my face. Then the police came, and I climbed out a window – which I think is maybe one of my dream triggers – and I hopped over a fence, and at that point, my dream became less like a dream and more like what I guess I would call a daydream, where I was sort of conscious of choices that I had within the dream. Can you help me interpret the symbolism in this dream?

ELIAS: Very well. This particular dream imagery moves in conjunction with this wave which is occurring presently in consciousness which addresses to the belief system of sexuality.

In this, what you are offering to yourself is the viewing, one of duplicity, one of unfamiliarity in relation to different orientations and the judgments that accompany this unfamiliarity in association with orientations, and the aspect of physical unacceptability in action and in form. You also present yourself with the aspect that is involving the acceptability or unacceptability of behavior in relation to what you term to be sexual activity. This offers you the opportunity to identify many different areas associated with this belief system of sexuality that you hold great judgment within, and in this identification of these different aspects, you allow yourself the noticing of your own fearfulness of the unfamiliar in these areas, which is also creating of very strong judgments.

In this, there is an expression that you have created within your dream imagery of camouflage. Therefore, it is more difficult to be identifying that you are participating within all of this dream imagery, for much of this dream imagery within your beliefs is quite unacceptable. It addresses to many areas of this belief system.

It also addresses to the area of victimization – the victim and the perpetrator. You view yourself as the perpetrator, which of course is very bad. I express to you that in this imagery, you also offer yourself the opportunity to view that these are merely experiences and choices. You create this imagery within your dream state as it provides you with a safe environment to be experiencing all of these identifications of aspects of belief systems that hold much fearfulness and uncomfortableness for you within objective waking state, therefore allowing yourself a beginning movement into addressing to these aspects of this belief system and lessening the intensity of them within your objective waking state.

There is much involvement within this present wave in consciousness addressing to this very large belief system, and it is very affecting of individuals within this present time framework, being manifest in responsiveness in many different manners, dream imagery being one of these expressions, but not the most affecting expression.

In this, I say to you that you presently within your awareness are allowing yourself movement and opportunities in many different directions, addressing to your reality in many different manners all simultaneously within this now, and in that expression, I offer to you an expression of energy from myself which may be helpful to you in your accomplishment, for the base line of all of this activity that you engage presently is to be allowing yourself a greater acceptance of self.

You hold a partial trust in self and in your abilities, but this imagery that you present yourself with presently offers you a movement more into the area of acceptance, in knowing that you are merely creating your reality for the purpose of experience and exploration, not in the expression of right and wrong. These are the influences of your belief systems.” [session 401, May 23, 1999]

FEMALE: “... If we have another focus, or say we’re having in this focus a real high or a real low in our life, we’re feeling that, would another focus be feeling some of that?

ELIAS: Possibly; not absolutely. It is not a rule. Therefore, at times another focus may be experiencing a similar creation, or they may not. You may be creating an experience unique and individual to you within one focus.

Each focus of attention creates their own experiences. You are not subject to the creations of other focuses. Even in your draw and your association with this luminescence, this is not an expression that the individual is subject to that draw, merely that there is an engagement of other focuses.

You draw to yourself, in relation to other focuses that you hold, those experiences and those expressions of energy that may be in relation to what YOU are choosing to be creating, that may be beneficial to you to be holding an awareness of, to draw your attention to some aspect of exploration that you wish to be engaging, but the direction is created by you, by each individual focus.

Once again, we return to our subject matter of victims, and NONE of you are victims.

In this, in any expression that you associate some action, some expression, some element is being thrust upon you – or is being, more softly, ‘given’ to you – without your permission, you are becoming a victim, for are not expressing that you yourself are creating the choice, but that some other aspect of consciousness is creating a choice for you, and this is NOT correct.

(Firmly) No other aspect of consciousness chooses for you, period. You ALWAYS choose, in every moment, your reality, your movement, your expression. NO expression is thrust upon you.

Therefore, in relation to your question – as to the relationship between different focuses, and shall one focus be experiencing the same or similar experience to another focus in the same time framework – this does occur, but not as an expression that is thrust from one to another. Rather, it is an individual choice that is being created simultaneously.

If two aspects of one essence, two focuses of one essence, are creating the choice to be experiencing the same high, so to speak, or the same low within the same time framework, as you associated, this is being created purposefully by essence – which is you – to be experiencing different aspects of a similar experience, for each experience is not identical. They are not the same; they are similar.

Each focus creates uniquely. Each focus of attention holds the expression of free will and choice, and therefore, each focus of attention of each essence is creating their choice of an experience which may be beneficial to them, with the underlying knowing of all that is being created within every other focus. (Emphatically)

It is all a movement of harmony. You are not randomly creating within consciousness. You are not coincidentally creating. You are not accidentally creating. It is all purposeful and it is all precise. It is all a movement of immaculate action, and in this, each choice holds with it an underlying knowledge of all that is being created in every other aspect of essence. You may not afford yourself the objective recognition or awareness of all that you create as essence, but you do hold an underlying awareness.

I have expressed many times, there is no difference of myself and yourselves, other than I remember and you do not.

This is merely an expression of attention, and you have created a singularity of attention which blocks the incorporation of the remembrance. It is not that it is not present. It is not a situation that it does not exist. It is merely that you have focused your attention very precisely and directedly, and in this, you do not view all of the remembrance of you. But this also is an action which is incorporated within this shift.

You would not be participating within this exchange were you not participating within this shift in consciousness. You would not be inquiring of these matters were you not widening your awareness and participating in this shift in consciousness. You ARE participating. You ARE widening your awareness. You ARE incorporating your periphery. You are becoming objectively aware of more of yourselves, of the remembrance of consciousness, and in this, you have sparked new curiosities within yourselves. (Pause)

You do not choose to be creating a high or a low in conjunction with another focus ‘because’ another focus is creating that. But you are ALL creating ALL of your focuses simultaneously. Therefore, it is not merely an association of ‘at the same time,’ for all that is occurring is at the same time.

FEMALE: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.” [session 704, October 07, 2000]

SUE: “I want to talk to you about a problem I’ve been having. Specifically, on Friday I left my backpack on the train, and I lost my purse and my keys and my glasses and various other objects, and I was really upset about it; not just because it’s a hassle to replace everything and it’s a loss of money, but because this is like the fourth time this year that I’ve lost things.

In most cases, it’s just leaving something. I left my purse in a shopping cart back in January, and that was returned to me. Then I lost my student I.D., and that was returned to me a couple of months ago. Then about a month ago, I left a shopping bag full of stuff on the train, and I didn’t get that back. And now I’ve lost my backpack and purse on the train. I just want to know why I seem determined to leave my possessions everywhere!

ELIAS: … There are many expressions that are being created in the one action of this type of imagery.

In your individual example of losing, so to speak, personal belongings and repeating that action, you present to yourself a communication in relation to your own movement in addressing to aspects of duplicity, in an involvement of many more expressions than merely an automatic discounting of yourself or an irritation or frustration in the action itself and what you view you must be accomplishing in replacement of these belongings.

For in actuality, you offer yourself many communications. One, in association with repetition, is beneficial to gaining your attention. Repetition is beneficial to the facilitation of your learning process. Repetition offers you a method in which you may allow yourself to be examining your actions and choices and automatic responses more efficiently.

These are your associations. They are not necessarily the situation, but they are the associations that you hold in relation to your individual beliefs.

In this also, your perception draws to it all of the other communications that you are offering to yourself – your emotional communication, your assessment of yourself in your abilities or your lack of abilities, one being your ability in the function of attention and memory, in which you create this type of action of losing an object, and your automatic association is that you are not paying attention enough and that you are discounting of your ability of recall.

For were you engaging memory and attention coupled together, in your assessment, you would not leave the object in a particular location. You would allow yourself to be paying attention and recalling that you have carried that object with you, and therefore you shall retain it as you move on to a new location, correct?

SUE: Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, there is an automatic association with your lacking in certain abilities and expressions.

Let me express to you, most of the associations that you create and most of the communications that you create in each of these actions are not expressed through thought. You do not turn your attention to the identification and evaluation of all that you are creating through a thought process. But this is not to say that all of these expressions are not occurring, for they are.

There are many, many, many associations that are being expressed in each of these events individually.

Now; another aspect of association which is automatically expressed is the association of being the victim of yourself.

SUE: Yes. That struck me really strongly, that this is not a case of people taking things from me. I mean, in some cases, they have given things back that they found, and in some cases they haven’t, but it was something that I initially did.

ELIAS: Correct.

SUE: That was really clear. A victim of myself ... yeah, that says a lot of things that I see about myself. I don’t think of myself as a victim of other people, but I often see myself as my own victim.

ELIAS: Quite.

In this, let me express to you, you offer this type of imagery to yourself to emphasize that association to yourself, and offer yourself information that this is an automatic response and that you do hold choice. For the expression of victim is the association within your perception that you do not hold choice, or that you do not view what your choices are.

In this, I may express to you, many, many, many individuals throughout your globe are presenting this particular challenge to themselves quite strongly, for you have moved yourselves in many of your societies into an alignment with psychological expressions in which you camouflage your individual association with being a victim.

Therefore, you objectively express to yourselves that you do not participate in that type of action or that type of role. You do not view yourselves individually as being a victim, and you view this term in quite negative associations, and you associate that identification of a victim as a weakness. Therefore, you express to yourselves quite strongly objectively that you do not participate in that type of role or action.

But I shall express to you that one large aspect of the belief system of duplicity IS the expression of victim, and although many, many, many individuals do not view themselves as creating that role or participating in that role or offering energy to that expression, you do, and you do not allow yourselves to view how you are expressing that automatically within your movements and within your creations and your associations within yourselves.

Therefore, you continue to create that type of expression, for it is an automatic response. It requires no thought – and no association in action, many times – to be creating this particular role within the individual self as a victim.

Therefore, you have quite creatively and quite efficiently engaged in types of imagery that shall allow you a clear and objectively obvious and simple example in how you automatically create these associations.

This in actuality is quite beneficial, for if you are not recognizing your automatic responses to your creations and your choices, you shall also not allow yourself the recognition of your freedom of choice, and therefore you shall hinder your movement into an expression of freedom.

Once you allow yourself to notice what you are creating, and you allow yourself to be paying attention and familiarizing yourself with your own individual automatic responses, this movement in itself offers you more choices.

SUE: Okay. So in this case, what I’ve shown to myself is that I don’t make myself a victim of others, and I’m not even making myself a victim of circumstances. It’s a really clear case of making myself my own victim, of doing things to myself, and that that’s kind of a pattern that I need to be aware of?


SUE: Okay, that makes sense to me. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, because I ... yes! (Laughing)

ELIAS: In this, also allow yourself to view the challenge and the difficulty that you present to yourself each time you create this movement in being a victim to yourself. Each time any individual moves themselves into this association, this role, this experience, this expression of viewing themselves or perceiving themselves to be a victim of any expression, be it through circumstance or other individuals or of yourself, you deny yourself choice, and therefore you create difficulty in your movement.

In this situation, you have presented to yourself quite clear objective imagery in which you may identify your movement into the association of a victim of your own creations, and how you subsequently create thickness, difficulty, hindrances, and much more of a laborious expression of energy in relation to what you have created as the victim, correct?

SUE: Yes. Yeah, after it happened, I was upset, too, because back when I lost my purse last winter, I thought, gee, I should keep like one credit card in my purse, and I should keep some cash around the house and things like that, and I didn’t do any of it. So when this happened, I found myself with no active money, and even though I had money in the bank, I couldn’t get to it, and I was very upset because I felt that if I had learned from that other experience, I wouldn’t have been in as much trouble this time around.

ELIAS: Ah! But let me offer to you a different perspective upon what you have created. For in this, once again, you are automatically chastising and discounting of yourself, expressing to yourself [that] if you had followed your ideas in association with these physical expressions of duplicate items, or reserving some expression of finance or money in an accessible location, or not carrying with you all of these items continuously in the pouch, you would have offered yourself what? An expression of protection.

SUE: Yeah, and I think that’s why I didn’t do it last winter. I remember thinking, well, I could do that, and then I thought no, I don’t like being paranoid, because if I do that, then I’m assuming this will happen again.

ELIAS: Quite!

SUE: So I didn’t do that, but then it happened again anyway, so that just made me more upset. I felt like I should have listened to those impulses.

ELIAS: Ah, but these expressions were not impulses. This was a thought process that you engaged in association with the creation itself, with the choice itself to be a victim and the denial of your choices, and your automatic response in that moment was a thought process in association with protection.

Now; you have chosen objectively to not be creating that movement into an expression of protection, recognizing that that type of movement and expression merely reinforces what you are creating.

But you also stopped at that point and did not allow yourself to be listening to the communication that you were offering to yourself in association with this role that you were creating as the victim.

Therefore, you present yourself with partial information, and you acknowledge yourself that you are not reinforcing or creating an additional expression of energy in the association with protection, recognizing what that expression may create.

But you also were not continuing in that recognition and engaging the tool of the thought process to be defining and identifying the other information that you were offering to yourself in the event through other avenues of communication.

Your thought process is designed as an objective tool to be helpful to you in defining and identifying the other avenues of communication that you offer to yourself, of which you engage many.

In this, your attention held to the event and turned to the discounting of self, stopping in a furthering of discounting of self and allowing yourself not to engage the movement of protection, but holding in merely viewing the event, and not in actuality paying attention to the message that you are offering to yourself in your choice. Are you understanding?

SUE: I think so, yeah. ‘Cause I didn’t look at what had really caused ... why I’d really done it to begin with. It’s interesting, too, that when I lost my purse back in January, I remember feeling very strongly like, ‘Well, things like this don’t happen to me, and if they do, then it works out well.’ And sure enough, that evening, somebody called me and got my purse back to me. So it was like even though I felt that I’d been my own victim, I felt that somebody else was going to help me out and get the stuff back to me.

ELIAS: Quite, and rescue you!

SUE: Yeah, and this time I kind of felt like my luck had run out, and I also felt like ... it upset me that I just didn’t think that was going to happen this time, and it hasn’t happened, and I feel like I’m not trusting myself to get the stuff back to me or to resolve it as easily as last time.

ELIAS: Ah, but this offers you another aspect of information. For in part, you express to yourself, ‘I do not create in this manner, and shall I create in this manner, I shall also resolve this situation.’ But then you move into the expression of associating that another individual or some action outside of you shall rescue you and shall create the favorable solution.

In this, you chose to not be listening to the message. The message is expressing to you an identification that you do at times create this role and association of victim with yourself, in relation to yourself being a victim of yourself.

Now; in being a victim of yourself, you also look to yourself to resolve that situation – or in your terms, rescue yourself from this role of the victim – and the manner in which you create this is to be recognizing those automatic actions and responses that create your association with being a victim of yourself, and in that, allow yourself to recognize your choices. And in this, how you rescue yourself is not to be creating the association of the victim.

But let me express to you also in quite physical [and] what you may term to be practical terms, recognizing that you and other individuals are addressing to automatic responses, and therefore at times you may be creating another automatic response, and you may view yourself to be in a similar experience once again.

Now; in these types of experiences, rather than expressing to yourself the other automatic responses once again and creating the repetition once again of discounting yourself, of becoming frustrated in your actions and expressing irritation within yourself that you have once again created a similar expression, allow yourself to stop and listen to what you are communicating to yourself. Allow yourself to acknowledge the message.

Once the message is acknowledged, it is unnecessary to be continuing to present it to yourself.” [session 750, January 02, 2001]

JEN: “I know that good and bad is the observance of duplicity in everything, and we do that. That’s just a part of who we are and our way of being. But I’m wondering about the color of good and bad. Is it a light and dark color, and do people embody different amounts of light and dark, and does it vary over time? What about people that we think of as bad people? That’s our judging bad people (Elias laughs), but like some of these terrorists. People say you just can’t talk to some of these people, you can’t have a conversation or whatever, and I wonder if they embody a different energy? I mean, it’s a broad question in terms of how it works in our universe. It seems like we must have light and dark energy always.

ELIAS: Not in association with what you are expressing.

JEN: Because I’m expressing it in terms of good or bad, is that what you mean?

ELIAS: Correct. Yes, you do incorporate tones in relation to energy. You do express thickness in energy or a lack of thickness in energy, what may be identified as more of a difficulty in movement of energy at times, which also is quite influenced by your beliefs. But in relation to what you are attempting to identify, let us examine these expressions. You identify a particular energy of certain individuals that you define as bad – terrorists, in your identification.

Now; let us examine this expression. These are directly associated with your beliefs, for the individuals that you define as terrorists also incorporate very strongly held beliefs, and in their perception their beliefs are right.

MICKEY: And we’re bad.

ELIAS: You match each other’s energies. This is what you are attempting to define. What creates the expression of good and bad? What creates the intensity of these expressions and the conflict that arises from these expressions? How do you participate? And you may view yourself as not participating.

JEN: I’m noticing, so in a way I am participating.

ELIAS: You are participating, and now you are noticing your participation.

JEN: Right, whether I’m lending to it, or...

ELIAS: You ARE expressing. You are ALL expressing. Every individual upon your planet is expressing an energy, and each individual expresses an alignment with a good and bad expression, right and wrong behaviors. (Looking at Laura) This is the point of what we have been discussing, in recognizing that you are not eliminating your beliefs.

I am not expressing to you that you do not express good or bad or right or wrong, but recognize that these are beliefs. They are not absolutes. There is no absolute right, there is no absolute wrong, and no individual is a victim and no individual attacks another individual, for this suggests that another individual may create your reality, and another individual may NOT create your reality. You create all of your reality in every moment, in every expression. Therefore, who is the perpetrator? Who is the expression of evil? Who is the terrorist?

If you have created imagery of terrorism, YOU have created it and you are it. You are also the victim.

JEN: If you choose to be a victim.

ELIAS: (Leaning forward with a smile) And you do.

JEN: But if you’re noticing yourself in victim mode, then you can choose to not be in victim mode, and be aware of what that energy feels like.

ELIAS: Correct! Correct, and this is the point.

JEN: And that, I guess, is my question, because that energy seems like it has a different tone, the energy of victim, the energy of feeling ... hmm, I don’t want to use the words ‘good’ and ‘bad,’ but feeling...

ELIAS: It matters not!

JEN: ...feeling in a flow of energy that’s moving you in ways and drawing things to you that are really wonderful and that perpetuate that.

ELIAS: In expressions that you view yourself to be empowering of yourself, in your terms, you experience an energy that FEELS to you physically to be thinner, for you allow yourself to direct your choices.

In an expression of victim, you may notice a physical feeling of energy of thickness, for you are denying your choices. You project your attention outside of yourself and you associate that some other expression ... and it matters not what the identification of the expression is. It may be an individual; it may be a circumstance; it may be an object.

If a vase topples from a table and strikes your foot, you may express in the moment that you are the victim of the vase, for it has hurt you; but you have created the vase. But in the moment of that action the energy is experienced in thickness, for you are expressing within yourself a lack of choices. Something has occurred to you, and therefore you have not chosen it and you are not expressing the freedom of your choices. This is the point in recognizing.

It matters not what your expression of good or bad or right or wrong is, but the recognition that it is not absolute, and the recognition of energy, as you have stated. For in allowing yourself to move within an energy that is not thick, you allow your energy field to relax and flow, and in that flow you do not attach judgment.

In this, I may quite definitely express to you all, you may be expressing an alignment with a right or wrong or good or bad and NOT express judgment.

JEN: So is that the manner of noticing the energy that we’re projecting as we’re thinking good or bad?

ELIAS: Noticing your associations, for not every judgment incorporates much thought process. (Group laughter) There are many times when you may be expressing an automatic response and incorporating judgment, and choosing and expressing energy and doing, and not necessarily incorporating much thought concerning this automatic response, but incorporating judgment.” [session 917, October 06, 2001]

JÜRGEN: “In the recent month, I’ve just experienced that people obviously express in kind of lying to me. I was wondering, just considering, is there a mirror action possibly happening? But on the other hand, maybe people are just expressing themselves to me.

I just couldn’t make heads or tails of it actually, and it was concentrating. For example, my employer is kind of lying to me about my payment. My girlfriend – my ex-girlfriend – lied to me, just made points to cut off the relationship. I was thinking, ‘Okay, now what’s happening to me? I guess I’m part of it.’ But I have problems telling what do they express in themselves – is it just to make me accepting, or maybe just telling me why I’m actually lying to myself, perhaps?

ELIAS: Not necessarily a mirror, but a reflection to experience some of your truths.

As I have expressed previously, this wave addressing to truths is not being addressed intellectually; it is being experienced. Therefore, you present to yourself experiences of your truths, incorporating one of your truths that lying is unacceptable and is an unacceptable behavior and is dishonest, and participating in experiences to reflect the truths that you incorporate.

Remember, your truths are not bad; they are merely beliefs that you have generated into an absolute. What is significant to be examining with your truths is how those truths influence you and how you express outwardly in association with other individuals in relation to your truths.

Your truths are your guidelines for your behavior, but they are not necessarily applicable to another individual. What is significant with truths is that you view them quite literally to be absolutes – honesty is honesty. What is honesty?

JÜRGEN: You ask me? That was actually the question that was arising. If honesty and let’s say truth – I’m not speaking of the absolute truth, but the truth – for example, communicating something that happens in the same space/time with a person and the same focus I have, and tells me something different that happened just to kind of confuse me in myself. So the question is, is honesty actually relevant?

ELIAS: Quite!

JÜRGEN: And the next question for me was – well, of course it’s relative – but if everybody’s just expressing the relative situation maybe to just kind of make something that is uncomfortable for them more advantageous for them, it would kind of confuse the communication, at least an objective communication, if people were just expressing what they wanted but it has no relation anymore to what actually is happening.

ELIAS: But remember, each of you creates your reality in its entirety through perception, and your perceptions are different.

JÜRGEN: That was the next irritating thing, because if I’m considering I create my reality through my perception, what I’m perceiving was the question, maybe. Do I really perceive objectively something else, and maybe this person is just telling me what she or he is experiencing?

ELIAS: You are generating your reality through your perception, which is the mechanism that creates your reality, and you present this scenario to yourself to offer yourself information and to present a reflection to yourself – not a mirror, but a reflection – that you may view or experience some element of yourself or your beliefs that is significant for you to evaluate.

JÜRGEN: Does this mean that this scenario is not necessarily happening to the other person, but to me?

ELIAS: It is possible that the other individual may be expressing, and in their perception they are expressing, in what you would term to be a truthful manner and they are not lying. But perhaps they ARE, and it matters not to the other individual. They may incorporate their reasons within their reality, but that does not concern you.

What concerns you is what YOU are creating and what you are presenting to yourself, and if you are presenting to yourself this interaction in which you are perceiving that the other individual is lying and not being truthful, therefore not being honest with you, this is an opportunity for you to examine how you define truthfulness and honesty and what your beliefs concerning lying are.

These are YOUR truths, which are your guidelines. These are the guidelines that you set for yourself to guide your own behavior. You view lying as an unacceptable behavior; therefore you do not incorporate the action. It is your guideline. Another individual may not incorporate the same guideline, and may not view lying to be unacceptable.

JÜRGEN: The funny thing is I’m recognizing that in this context the lies expressed to me or perceived by me actually show some kind of dependency, that I think I’m depending on this relationship or I think I’m depending on the salary of my employer, that he is responsible for giving me a salary, which shall not be the case.

ELIAS: Correct.

JÜRGEN: Actually, I’m responsible for my salary.

ELIAS: Correct, and you are responsible for generating it and creating it, not for acquiring it. You are responsible for your projections of energy and what you create, and in these scenarios what you create is being victim.

JÜRGEN: Is it possible... I’m just evaluating this idea that maybe letting people lie to me ... let’s put it this way: I’m just giving myself an objective excuse why I’m not creating what I actually want to.

ELIAS: And therefore you have offered yourself a considerable volume of information, have you not, in this scenario and in these experiences? It is merely a matter of whether you pay attention and allow yourself to evaluate what you are actually doing, rather than merely moving into the role of a victim and not receiving any of the messages that you are offering to yourself.

JÜRGEN: So I’m starting to begin picking up the receiver? (2)

ELIAS: Congratulations!” (Laughs) [session 1574, June 05, 2004]

End Notes:

(1) Paul’s note: a reference to the “straight little sapling” allegory that Elias often refers to when he discusses our need to trust, accept, take full responsibility for only ourselves.

Digests: find out more about the sapling story.

(2) Paul’s note: Jürgen refers to the telephone analogy used by Elias to describe the many ways that subjective awareness communicates with objective awareness, for example, through impulses, impressions, dreams, emotions, inner senses, imagination, language, intuitions, and physical symptoms. In other words, we will hear a “ringing” until we answer the phone and receive the message from our inner self. As long as we refuse to answer the phone, the ringing will continue to get our attention until we do. Elias’ also calls these avenues of communication.

The telephone analogy was originally presented in the following exchange with Gail:

GAIL: “Is that what the door-knocking and the phone ringing in my sleep state is about?”

ELIAS: “Yes.

“Now; let us view this briefly as an example – your telephone ringing. This provides a clear, objective, simplistic example of what I am expressing to you.

“As your phone rings, it is delivering a message to you to respond, to receive. As you answer your telephone, it discontinues ringing, correct?”

GAIL: “Right, but I never seem to get to pick up the phone in my dream state. I just hear it ringing and it wakes me up.”

ELIAS: “And this is the imagery that I am expressing to you, for as you do not answer that ringing telephone, it continues to ring, correct?”

GAIL: “Yeah, but I want to answer it!” (Laughing)

ELIAS: “And this is what you are presenting to yourself, and this is the reason that you are engaging with myself this day ...”

GAIL: “This is very true!”

ELIAS: “... that you may allow yourself a clearer understanding of what you are presenting to yourself. This is a clear example. You are not responding to the emotion; not the emotion being reactionary or responding to you.” [session 739, December 15, 2000]

Digests: find out more about avenues of communication.

Digests – see also: | accepting self | alternate selves | aspects of essence; an overview | avenues of communication | belief systems; an overview | camouflage | choices/agreements | counterpart action; individual | distortion | Dream Walkers; an overview | essence; an overview | fear | focus of essence; an overview | forum | intents | imagery | imagination | information | “karma” | manifestation | objective/subjective awareness | oubliette | perception | probabilities | religion (spirituality) | remembrance of essence | sapling | separation | sexuality; gender, orientation, and preference | shrines | shift in consciousness | time frameworks | trusting self | truth | unofficial information | value fulfillment | waves of consciousness | widening awareness | you create your reality |

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