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soul mates

Elias “gems”

MARCOS: “Elias, could you tell us or talk a little bit about the concept of soul mates? Is that something that exists?”

ELIAS: “Quite. This is your terminology, also within a recognition, of an action which occurs within essence. You term this in physical focus to be soul mates. In this, it is an identification of a relationship that you hold with another essence, in which you remanifest many times with and hold an intimacy within relationship to this other essence. You also may identify soul mates, within your physical focus at times, to be the relationship of ‘essence twins,’ although within your belief systems you magnate more to the romanticizing of this term of soul mates, in difference to the identification of a soul mate which is a twin.

“There does exist within your reality, for you choose to create in this manner, an action of relationships that you hold within many focuses, of another individual in which you exchange places often, in your terms, within what you would view as a romantic relationship. Therefore, although essences choose to be focusing within physical focuses together in groups, not all essences choose this action. Your belief systems dictate to you that all who are manifest within physical focus hold a soul mate, and that you may only not find this soul mate within one particular focus! This is a belief system. It is an interpretation of information that you hold within, of the action of essence.

“Not all essences choose to be engaging this type of action and experience. They may choose few focuses to be remanifesting with the same individual, so to speak, or the same aspect of focus which shall remanifest into another focus, and they may choose to be accomplishing this within a romantic relationship, and they may consider themselves to be soul mates also; but in actual recognition of the action that Plato has written of, it would be more extensive and ongoing, in your terms. You would be manifesting within this particular type of relationship many times, as opposed to exchanging relationships and manifesting as parent and child or siblings or friendships or any other type of relationship.” [session 187, June 28, 1998]

ELIAS: “Soul mates are essences that choose to be manifest together in many different focuses and perhaps even manifest together in many different dimensions together in what you recognize as some type of intimate relationship. Whether it be adversarial in some focuses or in what you would view as a more positive relationship, it matters not. It is a choice of essences to focus attentions together and a type of connection in energy between the essences that generates this desire to be exploring in many areas of consciousness together.

“This is not to say that you may objectively meet a focus of that essence in every focus or that you may necessarily generate a romantic inclination or an on-going relationship with the individual within any particular focus, for you may objectively meet the individual and not choose to be engaging that type of action with them, but you shall recognize a strong familiarity.” [session 1518, February 20, 2004]

Elias “gems”

VICKI: “Okay, [a question] for one person whose name is Sarah … she would also like to know if she and her boyfriend engage counterpart action.

ELIAS: (Accessing) No. This would be a different type of connection. This would be an identification of our explanation within yester eve, of many manifestations and relationships within these focuses, creating what you identify as your soul mates.” [session 188, June 29, 1997]

LINDA: “It would appear that different fragments of the same essence of Jaupu (1) are being drawn together in the next couple of weeks or so, and Jaupu, in the guidance, seems to be encouraging some sort of merging of essences or merging of something. I’m getting dreams of physical merging, and I’m not sure how to interpret those.

ELIAS: Mergence of consciousness to be helpful in dispersing outwardly objectively to other individuals. It is a similar – although not the same – action to this essence (Elias) and the engagement that this essence draws to itself with other essences within the same [Essence] Family and within a close alignment with these essences which are physically focused with the same direction – not the same intent but the same direction – of focus, in offering information and energy to the action of your shift.

LINDA: So we’re all kind of assisting each other in doing the work of Jaupu in a way?

ELIAS: You are assisting each other. You are merging within consciousness. You are allowing more openings, that you may be drawing more information, that overall within the action of this shift, not necessarily singularly focused with one essence or another essence and their ‘mission’ as you perceive it, for each of these essences does not hold a mission....

LINDA: But collectively?

ELIAS: No. They are merely offering assistance to your movement within the action of this shift. Individuals interpret this as being a mission. The essences, in cooperation with the belief systems of physically focused individuals, may be expressing a mission or an agenda, but in actuality there is no agenda or mission. There is merely a willingness within these non-physically focused essences to be helpful within energy and information for less confusion within the action of this shift in consciousness presently. Therefore, you translate this, within the singularity of your attention of physical focus, into an alignment with one essence or another essence in furthering their ‘missions.’ In actuality, they are all the same, and there needs be no division of camps. (Smiling)

LINDA: I’m still not clear on the images I saw that were more of different essences basically having a romantic type of relationship, and it’s kind of a soul mates type of issue, I guess. Is there a benefit of soul mates connecting physically?

ELIAS: This is an interpretation within imagery, that you image this action of mergence into what you understand objectively as soul mates, for this provides you with the intensity of the subjective action which is occurring and offers you some explanation of the action.

It is a common imagery within physical focus to be viewing romantic or sexual connections; for this, within your objective awareness, is the most intimate action that individuals may share within your objective expression and within your belief systems. Therefore, you image this action in translation to yourself of the mergence subjectively of individuals that are physically focused that are fragments of this other essence, which are coming together in a mergence completely within consciousness to be offering more energy, more awareness, to the action of this shift. Therefore, you image this to yourself as this type of relationship.

The relationship of soul mates, so to speak, holds no more intensity of significance, but it is significant in your imagery as your explanation to yourself of what you are connecting to. As you feel within you that individuals are in actuality merging physically, this be true; for I have expressed previously that you merely view that you are separated by physical bodies, but your consciousness may in actuality merge with that of another individual and you may be finding yourself within another individual’s actual physical form.

LINDA: As well as my own?

ELIAS: Correct.

LINDA: So we would each share each other’s information, basically?

ELIAS: Correct.

LINDA: So it would be kind of a downloading of information from one to the other, because we’d be accessing everything?

ELIAS: Correct.

LINDA: Including the primary entity of Jaupu, then?

ELIAS: Correct.

LINDA: Oh! Okay. That’s what I thought was going on, but it gets kind of confusing sometimes! It’s getting pretty intense.

ELIAS: And the more that you are allowing within your widening, the more intensity you allow also. This be also why I express to you to be holding to your identity individually.

LINDA: So there’s a danger in letting go of that as a result of what’s going on?

ELIAS: Presently, no; but futurely, it is a possibility. As the intensity increases, if you are watchful and if you are holding strongly to your individual identity, then you need fear not. Even if you are allowing a confusion of your identity, it shall not be what you view to be permanent. It shall merely be temporary, but this may cause more confusion than needs be.

LINDA: So just remain strong in my own identity, and that will prevent ...

ELIAS: Correct.

LINDA: ... confusion?

ELIAS: Correct.” [session 220, September 20, 1997]

PAUL: “To change the topic to another area, we have a niece. Her name is Erin, and she has recently met a boyfriend named Wesley and they have a very deep connection that they sense, and so we’re asking a question for her information about the nature perhaps of their other-focus connections, or what sort of connections they may have that they’re sensing.

ELIAS: Offer to this individual, soul mates. This shall be explaining.

PAUL: Excellent. Great. Thanks, we’ll do that.” [session 224, October 01, 1997]

LINDA: “Elias, I just finished an intensive course in meditation and learning healing techniques, and with especially one of the people, I felt a strong connection. Can you elaborate on what that connection is? It seemed like we were energetically just side-by-side the whole time, and even the instructor of the course was commenting that we were like two peas in a pod the whole time. Is that any sort of relation, past life or whatever, between us? Or is it just that we, in that particular environment, connected?

ELIAS: You experience an energy connection in the same direction that I have expressed to you previously, before your travels.

LINDA: So is this a soul mate type of connection?

ELIAS: I expressed to you that several individuals connected with yourself would be coming together within this experience, and this be another example to yourself in reinforcement to yourself of your own action and your movement into this area of what you term to be spirituality. (Smiling)

LINDA: Is this a connection that I should continue? Is this something that we would help each other grow, or is just because of the circumstances that we were connecting?

ELIAS: If you are choosing! (Laughter)

LINDA: That was a vague answer! So it seemed like we were all, especially three of us in the group, it seemed like we were very strongly connected and being urged to bring forth the work of the entity Jaupu into the United States. Do you see us as capable of doing that together in a group?

ELIAS: You are capable. This would also be your choice. Acceptance 101! You hold the ability! (Grinning)

LINDA: (Laughing) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.” [session 236, November 08, 1997]

ANON: “Does everybody have a sort of a partner, so to speak, that they magnetize to?

JEN: You mean a soul mate?

ANON: Yeah.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

JEN: But many quote ‘soul mates’ can occur, especially if you’ve experienced many focuses. Then you’ll have many more experiences.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEN: So my sense of feeling like I’ve known a lot of people is because I have!

ELIAS: Correct, but this would be a different awareness than that of what you term to be soul mates. Within your terminology of soul mates, these individuals are those that not only have shared very many focuses together, but also share an interconnectedness within tone and essence, an intermingling. Or, they may not be sharing of a tremendous amount of physical focuses within one particular dimension, but share many physical focuses within many different dimensions, and also some within this dimension. But they also share interconnectedness, intermingling, and deep connection within non-physical areas. This is what is creating of what you term to be soul mates.

The knowing within any particular focus that you have known many individuals and are very familiar with them is a different action, for this is merely a remembrance that you are allowing yourself, within your widening of awareness in consciousness, that you have known individuals many times.

You manifest in groups. Therefore, you magnate in all of your focuses to the individuals that you interact with within them all. Therefore, each time you draw yourself to a new individual and you create a relationship of any type with that individual, you may also assure yourself that you have manifest with that individual previously, in your terms ... or futurely!

JEN: ... How do we recognize soul mates?

ELIAS: You shall know. You shall hold an inner knowing within you that there is a concentration of energy, an interconnectedness that becomes quite obvious. There is a knowing that occurs within the objective meeting of the soul mates. There also is an ease and an effortlessness within the interaction of these individuals.

Now; this is not to say that within certain focuses you may interact with another individual, another essence which you term to be your soul mate, and you may be repelled by this individual tremendously, or you have also chosen to continue the interaction and the interconnectedness, but in a different type of experience. You do not lose your connection, but you choose one focus to not be in compliance with each other and to be repelling each other.

JEN: Hmm. Simultaneously.

ELIAS: Correct. But within all of your other focuses you shall be in compliance with each other and you shall be experiencing the effortlessness and ease of your movement together; a click.” [session 288, June 20, 1998]

JEN: “Okay, so I want to ask a question about the exchange of energy that comes through sex as we know it. It’s my inquiry into what we term as monogamy and why it’s necessary. I’m curious about the energy that ... how can I say it? ... the way energy comes together in this act. It’s not so much the significance of it ... well, maybe it is. But what’s that all about in connection with essences, the connection of different energies?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon your expression.

JEN: Is it a way for energies to get to know one another at a level much greater than the communication that we know?

ELIAS: There are many areas that may be explored in the aspect of sexuality with respect to relationships. In physical terms, you may place this action as a physical experience that you create to be facilitating of new focuses to be physically entering into this physical dimension.

Now; you also attach significances to this physical action, and within the belief system of relationship you attach certain aspects of the belief system to this physical act, for within this physical act you are physically merging two physical forms, and in this action you may be creating of another physical form. Therefore, you attach great significance to this action. This is not to say that your attachment of significance is right or wrong. It merely is.

In this, you also allow yourselves certain openings. Let me explain.

Just as within certain actions you create focal points to allow yourselves more of an opening to self and to your own awarenesses and to energies, within your objective expressions such as your cards, your crystals, your astrology, your numerology, your rituals, you use these as focal points, as actions that you allow through your belief systems an opening to consciousness and to energy. In like manner, you create a focal point of an action of physical mergence in the area of the action of sexual intercourse.

In this, at times individuals allow themselves to move into an area of opening to their own awarenesses, and in this action of opening to their own awarenesses they may also within agreement allow themselves to open to each other. In this, they allow themselves to experience an exchange of energy and at times a mergence of energy which exceeds physical action.

Within the attachment of your symbolism, which is an aspect of the belief system, you also allow yourselves the ability to be accessing other areas of consciousness, other aspects of self, other aspects of other individuals. In this, if you are choosing and if you are allowing your own openness, you may access other areas of consciousness together that may be quite enlightening to you, so to speak, and may offer you an opening to a remembrance of self and of essence and of the energy of essence, and you may also allow yourself the excitement and exhilaration of not only a physical experience of energy, but also the knowing of the powerfulness of your OWN energy of essence which may be expressed THROUGH you.

You may experience this also individually, but belief systems lend themselves, in the accumulation of energy en masse, to an easement of accomplishment in certain areas. This be the reason that I express to you that belief systems are not bad. They may be limiting, but they are not bad, for in many aspects they lend themselves to your own accomplishments.

In this particular area, the aspect of sexuality may be quite lending of itself in areas of widening your own awareness and your own experiences. You may allow yourself the experience of mergence of essence and not only feel this within energy, but also physically, within your physical senses and within your nervous system of your physical form, if you are opening yourself to this awareness within this sexual activity. For you have created the aspect of the belief system to lend itself in this direction as facilitating to you as a focal point, in like manner to any of your props that you use within physical focus for your attention. They hold symbology, and where you attach symbology you also allow yourselves openness, and you allow yourselves more of your own widening in awareness.

Now; let me express to you that another aspect of this particular area of this belief system is that you attach to this that you need be singularly focused with one other individual. This may lend itself to the actualization of your widening of awareness, for you may allow yourself more of an ability if your attention is singularly focused, but this is not to say that this is the actuality of the situation. It is merely an aspect of the belief system. It matters not. You may be accomplishing of this same action with ANY individual.

Now; let me also offer you another aspect of information in this. You also in physical focus move into the direction of identifications of soul mates. Now, this is a different action. This is not to be promoting of monogamy or singularity in attention with one particular individual, but essences do create similar tones, and in this creation of similar tones they may choose to enter into physical focuses in conjunction with each other, and in this action they may also choose to be creating of many focuses shared between them for many shared experiences.

In this, this creates a situation that you within physical focus identify as soul mates. It is a knowing, a familiarity, and in this familiarity there also is created an easement in energy, and within this easement of energy at times, as you DO hold the familiarity of another individual that you may term to be a soul mate, this lends itself in each individual allowing themselves to move more easily into a trust and acceptance of self and of the other individual, which also lends itself to more of an easement of their joint creations.

Therefore, if you are expressing the inquiry of expanded awareness in areas of sexuality and what you may be accomplishing within energy in your remembrance within experiences of sexual activities, you may allow yourself more of an ability to experience within physical focus with an individual that you view to be a soul mate, for you move more easily into areas of trustfulness. This is not to say that you may not be accomplishing this same action with other individuals or that you need be singular within your attention. It is merely expressing that you generally shall be allowing yourself more effortlessness in the direction of the individual that you identify as soul mate.

JEN: Seems like there’s a lot of it out there.

ELIAS: Quite, and I may express to you that even within one given focus, you hold more than one soul mate.

JEN: And that that’s not necessarily a male.

ELIAS: Quite. It matters not. Gender is merely a choice of the individual focus for the purpose of experience.

JEN: I feel lucky to have been attracted to so many soul mates, or so many people that I seem to have such a high comfort level with.

ELIAS: And this be not luck, but the accomplishment of your creation!

JEN: I’m pleased with this creation!

ELIAS: Very good! I am acknowledging of you in this!” (Chuckling) [session 308, August 21, 1998]

DAVID: “My next question is about something ... it’s about love, and I guess finding my soul mate. That’s something that I’ve been obsessed with on and off for several years, and I’ve been trying to create a long-term, intimate relationship for a very long time, and I thought I’d dealt with limiting beliefs that had been blocking me, but it still hasn’t manifested in my reality. I would like to know, what’s blocking me in the area of bringing love into my life?

ELIAS: Let me express to you that within your individual situation – and this shall apply to many other individuals that move in a very similar direction – one of the most affecting elements in this area is your very concentration upon a specific belief.

There is a great preoccupation with the concept of soul mate, and as you allow yourself to focus your attention so very intensely in this direction, what you are creating is a narrowing, more and more and more, of your vision and of your focus of attention.

You are blocking out your periphery. You are creating in this particular area what you may term to be the opposite type of expression as you would be choosing to be creating in widening your awareness. As you open yourself to more elements of consciousness, you incorporate more of your periphery, so to speak. You open and widen your vision. You widen your awareness. As you concentrate upon one particular subject, one particular direction, you are creating of an opposite effect, in a manner of speaking. You narrow your periphery and you narrow your vision.

The more energy that you project into this type of action, the more you are narrowing your vision, and in this you limit your choices, and just as you may limit your physical vision by placing physical blinders upon your eyes, you are creating of a very similar type of action within your objective awareness as you concentrate so intensely in one direction. In this, you do not allow yourself to notice all that may be presenting itself to you.

Now; let me offer you a small analogy that I have offered previously to individuals. You hold this metaphor within physical focus of your ship of opportunity coming to port, and that you may be missing your ship if you are not paying attention, and you may miss your opportunity for that which you seek within your individual focus.

I have expressed many times that your ship, so to speak, arrives at your port many, many, many times throughout your focus, and continues to return. It is merely a question of whether you are focusing your attention and vision to be viewing this particular ship. You may be standing upon your dock, and you may be focusing your attention upon the pretty little shops and all of the trinkets that are offered within the shops, and to your back, your ship arrives, and you do not notice.

In this, as you focus your attention so intensely in the direction of attempting to be creating of this situation of finding and creating a relationship with what you term to be your soul mate, you are creating of the same action. You are focusing your attention upon the trinkets, and you are not noticing as the individual may be approaching you.

Let me also express to you that this is, in its camouflage, another expression of this same aspect of belief systems which we term to be control.

As you focus your attention in attempting to be manipulating of energy intentionally in this direction and creating of this type of relationship, you are placing expectations and conditions upon the flow of energy, and in this you are exerting your attempt at controlling your creation and the creation of another essence. In this attempt to be controlling of the flow of energy, you thwart your own efforts, and you are once again, in like manner to the situation with your mother, you are creating of the very expression that you wish not to be creating, and you are also creating of MORE elements, for you are frustrating yourself and confusing yourself and creating of much conflict.

DAVID: Oh, wow. So essentially, I’m frustrating my own efforts by trying too hard. How can I get more in touch with my own flow of energy and get out of my own way?

ELIAS: Ah! Now you move in the direction of inquiring as to the expression of more efficiency. In this, as you move your attention more in the direction of focusing upon self – addressing to self, exploring self, allowing yourself to move into the direction of acceptance and trust of self, and addressing to your own held belief systems – you automatically emanate energy that shall draw those elements of your desire to you.

Be remembering, in this particular type of situation you are looking to be fulfilling your desire in the area of realization – in objective terms – of your connection with what you term to be a soul mate, and to be creating of a type of relationship within this particular focus in that direction. In this, you are forgetful that this is a participation, not merely of your own creation, but a shared creation. Therefore, it is an agreement that you create to participate within, a shared creation with another essence.

In this creation, as you are focusing upon yourself and addressing to your own belief systems, widening your awareness within yourself, you shall project within consciousness outwardly a beacon, so to speak, in figurative terms, that shall be recognized by those individuals or those essences that manifest within physical focus that may be considered to be your soul mate, and that one which engages like intent and focus within this particular manifestation shall be drawn to you within this focus.

Let me express to you as I have expressed many times previously, in many of your clichés and sayings, so to speak, within physical focus, there is an underlying truthfulness, for there is an element of known workings of energy and of consciousness. In this, you hold an awareness that individuals may express many times that they are finding the very element of their desire when they are not looking.

What is meant by this underlyingly, in the knowing of consciousness, is that when you are focusing your attention upon self and addressing to your own acceptance and trust of self, this shall be recognized by other individuals within physical focus which shall automatically magnate to you as they share like intent, which you may term to be like spirit. And in this, the very object of your desire shall be realized, not by your overt manipulation of energy in controlling and intentionally attempting to be creating of this desire, but as a byproduct naturally expressed, as other individuals shall naturally hone to you in the recognition of the very energy that you express.

In this, individuals within physical focus hold much greater knowing than they hold an understanding objectively of. I have expressed previously that there are no secrets within essence, and in this, individuals within physical focus ARE aware of energy, regardless of their thought processes or their beliefs within objective terms.

They automatically draw themselves to each other within like spirit, in your terms. This would be expressed differently in our terms, of like intent or like desire. These types of expressions are expressed automatically within energy and within projections of your very energy field, and this transcends physical locations and proximities.

As you term this to be ‘moving out of your own way,’ as you address to your own acceptance of self and are moving in the direction of trust of self, you also project throughout consciousness this beacon, so to speak, which allows a window for other essences to view more of your expressed energy. As you are not accepting of yourself and not trusting of yourself, you are holding to your energy and therefore blocking the message, so to speak, and in this, thwarting your own objective efforts.

Movement in this area is quite effortless. You move together, in objective terms, to be incorporating soul mates in a very effortless manner. In this, individuals that allow themselves these types of connections within objective terms and realization within physical focus shall express to themselves, to each other, to you, great surprise in their connection with this soul mate, for no effort has been exerted. They have merely come together within an effortless manner and they are amazing of themselves that they have created such probabilities to draw themselves together, regardless of situations, circumstances, creations, or physical locations.

And THIS is the wondrousness of consciousness, that it DOES move in the direction of effortlessness.

You draw to you those of like expression. Presently, within your individual creations and your situation and the belief systems and the held energy that you create, you draw to yourself individuals that shall mirror your own expression and shall be projecting of controlling elements and situations that you find to be undesirable, for this is your expression and your own creation. You shall draw to you individuals that mirror the same expression to you. You do this purposefully, that you may be focusing your attention in areas that you choose to be addressing to. As you allow your energy to flow freely, you also shall draw to you other individuals that allow their energy to flow freely, and this shall create much more of an effortless situation within the area of relationships.” [session 330, October 11, 1998]

FRANK: “… just on a note of mergence, is that reflected in the relationship between Forrest and Michael [Mary], why they went from one extreme to another? The change in Forrest’s focus, the Vold/Vold, and the relationship between Forrest and Michael [Mary] objectively, how it went from one extreme to another over a very short period of time? Am I getting too personal for Michael [Mary]? (2)

ELIAS: This situation holds many aspects of influence, being influenced by not only this particular focus with both of these individuals, but also as being influenced by other focuses.

These two individual focuses of these essences have been within what you may term to be many different focuses in conjunction with each other, and within physical terms, many of those focuses would be considered in YOUR assessments as being quite positively connected.

I have offered information in this area to Ellius [Forrest], which he has chosen not to be offering to other individuals within physical focus (3), but I shall offer to you an explanation in the area that you think physically to yourselves – and quite romantically! (grinning) – of soul mates. Your idea of soul mates moves quite singularly in the area of positive romantic expression.

I may express to you that within your agreements of essences manifesting into a particular physical dimension, you may hold several of what you term to be soul mates, and within your agreements and your connections within physical focuses, you may be creating of many focuses together in harmony. But each of these agreements to be what you term as soul mates also generally agrees to be creating of one focus, at very least, that you shall be interactive with each other and countering each other within your physical manifestations – and also be quite repelling of each other – for that incorporation of the fullness of the experience between the physical manifestations of focuses of those particular essences.

If you are choosing to be creating of an agreement to be what you term to be soul mates, you shall be manifesting a physical manifestation where you shall hold a very similar type of action and response to each other as opposite counterparts. You may not be engaging opposite counterpart action, but the action that you engage with each other within your physical expression shall be quite similar, and you shall engage a very similar expression as the magnets pushing. (Slapping hands together and then apart)

In this, I have offered information which may be helpful to individuals within physical focus in this subject matter in this area, which I shall offer now also, for the reason that Ellius [Forrest] has not shared this information, but it is beneficial.

In this area, the action that occurs is that there IS an identification of these focuses, that there is a draw initially and this draw shall objectively appear to be quite strong, for there is a subjective remembrance of the agreement and the connection held, but subsequent to the initial meeting objectively, the extreme opposite is occurring in their creation, as does occur within your identification of soul mates.

Individuals identify soul mates in the action that they are objectively meeting and they are immediately, instantaneously recognizing each other and their connection and that they ‘fit together’ as your ‘split-aparts.’ (4) This is one side of the experience that you offer to yourselves in one direction, one expression.

In the other expression, which within balance you choose also to experience, these same essences may focus within physical manifestation, hold the recognition, hold the draw in like manner, but move in repelling direction once they allow themselves the opportunity of physical objective meeting, and their expression shall be equally as extreme as the expression in the romantic area.

This is all for what you term to be the purpose of the fullness of the experience, and offering the essence, within its choice of physical experience, a balance in their experience. This type of balance is chosen by the essences themselves as opposed to being chosen as experience to be incorporated through counterpart action, for it is more direct, in a manner of speaking, and offers the essence itself its own balance within its own energy movement, therefore not creating an imbalance in the expression of the particular essence.

This be the action that Michael [Mary] has engaged with Ellius [Forrest], and also, within the choice of their individual expressions within this particular focus, Ellius [Forrest], as I have expressed, engages also a very opposite type of expression to Michael [Mary].

Objectively, Michael [Mary] engages this energy exchange and offers himself the movement, in actual physical terms, of removing subjective interaction and therefore not incorporating the distortion of belief systems in this energy exchange. Although holding belief systems within his own focus, he has chosen to move in a direction of allowance of the lack of belief systems, therefore facilitating this energy exchange. Ellius [Forrest], within this particular focus, has chosen to move in the direction of holding very tightly within his expression to very physically focused belief systems. They are creating of opposite expressions, which emphasizes the connection.

This would be the expression, which within this particular focus – although I have not expressed this objectively in explanation to them each – this is creating of confusion and a seeming of inconsistency or contradiction in their idea of soul mates and the function of soul mates and their individual expressions, for I have offered the information that they DO engage this action of what you term in physical focus to be soul mates, and this appears to be inconsistent with their individual relationship, but it is not inconsistent.” [session 333, October 19, 1998]

KRISTIN: “I would like to know, what was my focus or what was my connection with David, the English guy I was with before Frederick? He was definitely a soul mate. Some intense stuff happened. Can you tell me briefly a little bit about that? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah. You have held physical focuses with this individual, although within this particular dimension, you may term these to be not many. You do hold physical focuses with this individual within other physical dimensions, more in number, so to speak. You also hold an alignment, in a manner of speaking, with this individual in essence, for this individual holds an essence that exhibits a similar tone and moves in similar directions of attention with your essence. Therefore, I express to you that in the terms of your connections, so to speak, you would be holding more connections, in a manner of speaking, within essence and within other-dimensional focuses than within this particular dimension.” [session 352, January 13, 1999]

FRANK: “To get back to the issue with other focuses, is that kind of the same issue in past life focuses also? Is that why I’m so ... like, I was trying to pursue that for a long time, I guess, to identify the focuses and find them in history ...


FRANK: ... just to see what was going on there.

ELIAS: Yes. You hold your attention in this area, for you also hold subjectively a recognition of their affectingness in this focus.

This also enters the situation of your attention to certain elements – as I have expressed in this session – that you view to be lacking in this particular focus. This is the expression that you view to be missing – in your terms – your ‘split-apart.’ This is quite common within physical focus and is creating also of many elements of conflict within individuals, yourself also, for this is another expression of inadequacy that you reinforce to yourself. For if you be adequate, you would be discovering your split-apart, but as you are not adequate, you are not finding this individual and allowing yourself the bliss of shared relationship. (Smiling)

I express to you that first of all, you shall be addressing to self and the acceptance of self, and in this acceptance of self, you shall draw to you other individuals which shall be allowing you the expression of relationship in the manner that you seek.

FRANK: Okay. (Pause) Alright. In going from the split-apart to specifically – and excuse my being transfixed on this one focus from the past – but the one who we identified as Lillian Buseau (5), is she a split-apart from me?


FRANK: Okay. Now, on two occasions ... on one occasion I was at a plantation in New Orleans and I heard a voice which I believe was hers, and on another occasion I had a dream, which was a very lucid dream, where we actually met very, very lucidly. My question is, did we actually meet, or is that just another one of my creations, trying to get to my beliefs? Am I creating the imagery of us meeting ...

ELIAS: No. (Smiling)

FRANK: ... in the subjective, or hearing a voice?

ELIAS: In one manner of speaking, it is a translation of imagery. In another manner of speaking, it is an actual contact, so to speak, of two aspects of consciousness, yours and the expression of another essence. You may translate this contact, so to speak, into your own creation of imagery, but this is not discounting of the actual interaction which is occurring.

What I am expressing to you in this is that within your own imagery to yourself, you may present yourself with a specific image of a specific type of individual, which is your own imagery, but this is the translation element of the interaction.

This is not to say that the interaction has not occurred or that you have merely created this singularly yourself. You have engaged the interaction, and that is reality. You merely also have created your own imagery in a physical form or type of physical form.

Therefore, I express to you that within your actions in this physical focus, you may be disappointing yourself if you are looking and searching for this particular body form, for the expression of this individual may not necessarily be manifest in that particular creation of physical form.

FRANK: Right.

ELIAS: But this is not to say that that essence is not manifest and that you do not hold the ability to draw yourself to that individual focus within this now.

FRANK: Right. Okay. At first, I didn’t really particularly feel like I was searching for that physical person in this present focus. I think I felt like I wanted to subjectively have interactions with this person on like a meditative level or a dream level, just to prove to myself that I can.

ELIAS: Quite! And this offers you also an expression of safety, does it not? (Grinning)

FRANK: (Laughing) I guess so. Very sneaky of me!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) You need not be fearful of your physical expression if you are not engaging an individual physically!

FRANK: Can you express that again?

ELIAS: You need not be fearful of your physical expression or how you may be presenting yourself to another individual if you are not engaging another physical individual. Therefore, you are creating once again a very efficient protection and safety net for yourself!

FRANK: So this is not my pursuit of my spiritual abilities or my ability to transcend myself. I’m just reinforcing my belief systems.

ELIAS: You ARE offering yourself the objective awareness of your abilities within this physical focus. You ARE allowing yourself to view your ability to be accomplishing in certain actions in connecting with other elements of consciousness. But you are also simultaneously allowing yourself a safety net, and not addressing to the physical objective interaction within this focus.

Let me express to you that you yourself, as very many other individuals in like manner, express a false sense of spirituality to yourself, in moving in the direction of concentrating your attention and your energy in the expression of exploration of other aspects of consciousness and ignoring many of your objective physical aspects of your expression.

Actual, genuine spirituality encompasses ALL of your expressions, physical and non-physical, objective and subjective, belief systems and not belief systems.

FRANK: Okay....

ELIAS: Were this not so, I would not be expressing to you or to any individual to be pursuing fun and pleasure! What shall fun and pleasure matter if the expression of spirituality is not encompassing your physical objective expression? Pleasure and fun within physical focus is the experience of physical sensations!

FRANK: Right. Alright, I guess I’ve limited myself for such a long time that that was my only outlet, and I was looking for some sort of encouragement from there, I guess, to get back out.

ELIAS: Let me be encouraging to you! And I express to you, allow yourself to break free and experience pleasure and fun, and you shall also be experiencing a great liberation!” [session 371, March 12, 1999]

MARCOS: “There’s so much there to continue to digest, and I know I will do that as I move forward.

There’s so many things you say that I feel inside that I know. I feel the knowing when you mention them, and that’s extremely helpful. I can’t tell you how helpful this conversation is, because so much of my life becomes so much clearer now, and I can begin to understand some of these extremely difficult moments that I’ve felt on and off throughout this focus.

At the same time, in acknowledgment of my knowing, I think that’s why I’ve been living by myself for the last three years and traveling so much, because within those travels, even though I do interact with people which I like, I also spend much time by myself, and more and more I begin to enjoy that, and it’s very hard for other people to understand why I like to spend so much time by myself.

ELIAS: Quite. Now; let me also offer to you another element, Marta [Marcos].

In this particular orientation [of intermediate], there is another quite strong expression which is battled with by many individuals holding this orientation. In this, it is in regard to relationships.

Within the orientation of intermediate, you may find that individuals such as yourself may be interactive within relationships and may be attempting to be creating intimate relationships in the manner of partnerships, for there is a very strong draw and feeling of a desire for intimacy, which is subsequently translated in familiar terms outwardly, and the translation is formed that you NEED to be engaged within an intimate relationship.

Now; the challenge which is presented with this particular orientation is that the relationship outwardly is not necessarily what shall be fulfilling of the individual.

Now; this particular orientation holds a very strong expression in the manner of coupling itself with other individuals of the same orientation.

I have expressed previously that each orientation magnates to individuals holding the same orientation, and that in coupling yourself with another individual of the same orientation, you shall experience more of an ease and you shall be accomplishing within that relationship with less conflict, for you are not speaking different languages.

I have also expressed that within each orientation, as an individual draws themself into a relationship with another individual holding a different orientation, they shall be experiencing conflict and confusion for a time framework. This is not to say that this may not be moved through, but it is creating of difficulties and it shall create much more of a thickness temporarily than is necessary.

Now; in this, for the most part, individuals within physical focus, as they move in the direction of aligning themselves in an intimate relationship with an individual of a different orientation, they shall generally discontinue those relationships, viewing that they are requiring of too much attention and energy to be satisfactory to themselves individually.

Now, I express to you also that there are individuals within physical focus that choose quite intentionally to be entering relationship with another individual of a different orientation, and part of their value fulfillment is to be moving through these types of challenges.

But let me also express to you that this is much less common with individuals holding the orientation of intermediate than any other orientation. It is much more common that individuals within this one particular orientation shall be experiencing and creating much more conflict within themselves with regard to intimate relationships if they are not of the same orientation as the other individual, for there is such an intensity of inward focusing that individuals as yourself that hold this orientation do not afford yourselves the movement into concentrating your energy into interpretation and translation of languages with another individual holding a different orientation. You merely create frustrations within yourself.

In a manner of speaking, within very physical terms, you may express to yourself, ‘This is requiring of too much energy,’ and it is not worthy of your time, and you are not inclined to be offering this much attention to another individual and their creations, for you are much more occupied with your OWN creations and your own perception. Therefore, there is an impatience with other individuals.

This be the reason that you experience challenges and what you term to be difficulties in establishing relationships with other individuals in an intimate manner, for another expression which is quite generally created within the orientation of intermediate is to magnate to individuals of other orientations, for they provide outward stimulation and excitement. They challenge you, but you may be accepting of the challenges only to a point.

In this, it may be creating excitement and an element of fun and intrigue for you to be exploring different types of relationships, but you shall continue to arrive in a framework within yourself in which you become bored, exasperated, frustrated, and restless in the interaction with another individual, for they do not hold the same orientation as you and they do not create their reality in like manner to yourself. Therefore, you also lean in the direction of feeling misunderstood, and you are quite right! Many times you ARE being misunderstood, for other individuals objectively are no more understanding and translating of your language than you are of theirs!

But this returns us to your natural inclination to be personalizing of those expressions, for you turn all of your expressions and other individual’s expressions and your reality inwardly and allow great affectingness of all of your reality inwardly, in intimate manners with yourself.

THIS is what you seek within yourselves within the orientation of intermediate, to be creating of this intimacy with self.

This be the reason that you have also created the imagery that you have within your dream state. (6) Look to that imagery, and the wondrousness and the joy that you provide yourself in meeting yourself, and the fulfillment that you have allowed yourself to objectively feel! And what do you express to me? ‘How shall I find this individual? I am upon my quest for my soul mate.’ Ha ha ha ha! And your soul mate is yourself!

MARCOS: Ah, that’s fantastic, Elias! You’re extremely, extremely helpful with that information, and you’re absolutely correct. Now, at the same time, in this quest for myself, I wouldn’t mind meeting along the way some other intermediate individuals, but this is fascinating, fascinating information!” [session 406, May 28, 1999]

BEN: “... I listened to the last tape of our session, which was about a month ago, and it got cut short because Mary came out of trance. I know you were in the middle of saying something, so if you had a thought you wanted to finish, we could do that first.

ELIAS: It matters not. You may continue. (Laughs)

BEN: It was one of those things where I can’t help thinking that, you know, she just doesn’t come out of trance for no reason. I just kept thinking maybe I wasn’t ready to hear whatever you had to say or whatever that was.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And also that Michael perhaps is, in your terms, not ready for the information offered.

BEN: That’s interesting, because I know one of the things that I was probably going to... I guess I’m still going in that direction. We’ve been having this discussion about the concept of – especially where it applies to intimate relationships – of trying to get everything we want in one person, that somehow that we think this is an innate need or desire, that we can’t just have one person that we like to do this with and one person we like to do that with and share our experiences with several people – you know what I mean. As a people or a culture or whatever, we keep thinking like there must be somebody out there that will want to do all of these things.

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: She wanted me to ask a question along those lines, like why do we do that?

ELIAS: This is an association with mass beliefs in relation to your concept of soul mates and your romanticizing of that concept of soul mates.

BEN: Oh, that’s it?

ELIAS: And you do set forth a considerable amount of rules as to your expectations with regard to intimate relationships in association with your belief of soul mates, that you require all of these qualities that you set forth individually that you want and project that to another individual, generating the responsibility for creating your reality and your pleasure to the other individual.

What in actuality you are seeking is the freedom to be allowing yourselves to express these qualities yourselves. But with the incorporation of your beliefs and the familiarity of projecting your attention outwardly to other individuals, you generate the expectation that this shall be fulfilled, so to speak, through the expression of another individual rather than yourselves.” [session 1091, May 25, 2002]

End Notes:

(1) Paul’s note: Jaupu is channeled by Bob Fickes.

(2) Paul’s note: Mary and Forrest had a brief relationship that ended, after about three months, in May of 1998.

(3) Paul’s note: Forrest had two private sessions in February of 1998 that remain unshared and unpublished.

(4) Paul’s note: the concept of “split-aparts” is credited to the Greek Philosopher, Plato, who lived from 427 – 347 B.C. According to Plato’s creation story in the Symposium, the original human was a singular being – a perfect being that had the gender characteristics of both male and female. This perfect being was “split apart” into separate genders, and these split-aparts have been seeking each other out in order to regain their sense of perfect union ever since.

“Each of us when separated, having one side only ... is but the indenture of a man, and he is always looking for his other half.”

Symposium – Plato, 360 B.C.

The idea of “split-aparts” forms the basis for the New Age concept of soul mates, or two people perfectly suited to create a fulfilling relationship. Ironically, according to Elias, the definition of “fulfilling” may not always be what we consider positive, but more in line with his concept of value fulfillment.

Digests: find out more about value fulfillment.

(5) Paul’s note: Frank refers to Lillian Buseau, a woman he knew in a previous lifetime that was identified by Elias during an earlier unrecorded session. The correct name was later identified as Lillian Bodreaux (see session 788, February 25, 2001). The following is Frank's account of his connection with this past life and how it relates to issues in this one:

The first time I went to New Orleans, I experienced the familiarity similar to what others describe as déjà vu. Upon my return, I called a friend of mine named Brenda (essence name Michele) who is not presently involved with this forum. I lovingly call her a “witch” since she’s a psychic.

As I was describing my visit to a plantation, known as Oak Alley, she stopped me and said I had someone with me, someone who ‘attached’ herself to me when I was there. While I understood the symbolism, I liked the idea and went with it. She said the woman’s name was Lillian, Lil for short. We were all together in New Orleans in a “past” life.

In a session I had with Elias which was not recorded, he verified that there was a connection, and the name was Lillian Bodreaux. We had two focus together in New Orleans udring the 17th and 18th centuries, as well as several others in France. The last focus in New Orleans is like a chapter focus for me, the issues are the same.

Before this session, it should be noted that upon my second visit to New Orleans, I returned to the plantation on Halloween Night at 2am, through the swamps and the fog, still in my colonial costume from the Anne Rice Ball. I walked the grounds under the huge oaks and around the building. As I was leaving, I heard a voice in a loud whisper call my name, “FFRRRAANNKKK.” It was excellent! I looked around for a visual, saw nothing, but felt very satisfied (I was alone during this experience, some 60 miles upriver along the Mississippi).

Elias confirmed that this was representative of an energy exchange between myself and Lillian Bodreaux. I was just happy with the drama of it! He also told me that I was addressing issues of loyalty toward her, and in general, which is partly the reason I have not committed too intimately with many folks in this focus. I found this fascinating.

Though this became an obsession with someone I had not met in this focus, I had to let it go somewhat, something I still work on. But I did need to meet her, and often requested to do so through Brenda and myself, for her to appear somehow and make connection with me, again.

So one day, during Easter of 1999, I had a dream and Lillian came to me in the cushioned “safety” of my living room at my Long Island house. As lucid as lucid could be, she made a grand entrance into my living room, dressed in a white lace southern belle gown of exquisite design. She asked me if I knew who she was, and I did. She sat right next to me with her hand out. I noted the lace upon lace integration of the fabric of her sleeve which ended at her hand and had a white strand which extended out and looped over her index finger.

I noted that her voice was not the expected southern drawl, but a very properly spoken annunciated version of American English. Her face was not that of a Scarlet O’Hara, but of someone who could be from New York or Brooklyn, but she was very beautiful nonetheless. I noted all of this as we spoke, and then the memory faded.

Almost one year later to the day at a party for my Friends father in Queens, I met someone. She spoke in the fashion described and looked exactly like the dream image. A day or so later, I was thinking about her, and heard the words of my friend complimenting her on the way she spoke and made his name sound so good and official.

And then it clicked, she was Lillian! I had to sit down. I finally met her, though briefly. She’s a jazz singer, actress, and part-time teacher at a city university for foreign language.

My health being the way it was, I did not dare to meet her. This may happen sometime during this summer of 2002, as things are much better now. And that’s the story. So it goes…

Added December 31, 2002:

Farewell to You, Lillian Bodreaux
A soulmate saga
By Frank Moscati

On melancholy days
Through history’s veiled haze
I called out to you in anticipation

The magnolia breeze
Through familiar oak trees
Elms bowed to conceal my fixation

Memories trickle down
Over blood soaked ground
Sifting for visions lost, yet enduring

Would we meet up again
On a city street or a train
The hope was always reassuring

The familiar look of your face
In a dream’s vision placed
The quest was illusive, yet alluring

The glow of you cheek
And the way you would speak
But the ship was already breaking from its mooring

Now all that has past
The reconciliation at last
It was you in dark times
Who kept me going

I love you for that
And I tip to you my hat
Sensation without translation, overflowing.

While on a Cliff high
Sappho contemplated life
Our first encounter, the final one, so sublime

We are released now it seems
Fallen from the heights of the esteemed
I’ve never felt so alone, “time.”

I see only ‘angels in the mirror’
As life becomes clearer
Imperfect visions of you, in my mind

As bonfires burn bright
On Christmas eve night

My memories will not soon fade

Of revolution’s chaotic days
And stern Creole ways
A meeting by chance
The art of formal dance

Water rising the levee would not degrade

With Fashion held high
I fell from the sky
The crash to break my trance

Loyalties disarmed
I still find myself charmed
The waiting, ...overstating the romance

Through mud waters I waded
With experience unpersuaded
Absolutes dissolve allowing advance

Though kind warnings were not heeded
The encounter was superceded
For there was nothing more, at this time, to enhance

The voodoo beat and bayou heat
The boatman calls to me to row
As the new year rings in
With the shift still in spin
I know now, ...I must let you go

And though I remain weary,
I will cherish you sincerely

Farewell to you,
     Dearest Lillian Bodreaux.

(6) Paul’s note: Elias refers to the dream he discussed with Marcos in session 341, Novermber 21, 1998, in which Marcos connected with an aspect of his own essence in a very intimate and loving way.

Transcripts: find out more about Elias’ interpretation of Marcos’ dream.

Digests – see also: | accepting self | acceptance 101 | agenda | “astrology” | attention (doing and choosing) | belief systems; an overview | camouflage | choices/agreements | counterpart action; individual | dimension | distortion | effortlessness | energy fields | energy exchanges; Elias, Paul (Patel) | essence; an overview | essence tones | essence families; an overview | essence families; intents | focal points | focus of essence; an overview | fragmentation | fun & pleasure! | imagery | information | intents | manifestation | mergence | noticing self | objective/subjective awareness | engaging periphery | probabilities | relationships | religion (spirituality) | remembrance of essence | sexuality and emotion | sexuality; gender, orientation, and preference | shift in consciousness | trusting self | truth | twin focuses | widening awareness |

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