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Saturday, March 09, 2002

<  Session 1030 (Private/Phone)  >

“Static Electricity Shocks and Energy Fields”

“Moving Beyond ‘I Cannot’”

“Nonverbal Communication in Sessions”

Participants: Mary (Michael), Joanne (Gildae), Marj (Grady), and a new participant, Laura (Phairley).

Elias arrives at 2:34 PM. (Arrival time is 24 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon.

MARJ: Good afternoon!

JOANNE: How you doing, Elias?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) As always. And yourself?

JOANNE: As always!

ELIAS: Very well.

MARJ: How are things in Elias-land?

ELIAS: Filled with Elias! Ha ha ha! (Laughter)

MARJ: And are you happy there?

ELIAS: This is an emotion that is expressed within YOUR physical dimension, therefore it is relative to you.

MARJ: We always want to be sure you’re having a good time, too.

ELIAS: Continuously generating fun and playfulness, be assured! (Chuckles)

MARJ: Love it!

JOANNE: Hey, Elias, we have a new participant. My sister, Laura, is here.

ELIAS: Welcome.


JOANNE: She’s scared to death, I think. (Laughter, and Elias laughs)

We were wondering if you had a good time ice-skating that Sunday?

ELIAS: (Laughs) And YOUR impression?

JOANNE: I think you had a REALLY good time! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I am quite equipped in generating playfulness quite efficiently.

JOANNE: So that was you, that day Laura saw you at the skating rink?

ELIAS: In an aspect. Ha ha!

JOANNE: I thought so, ‘cause she said this guy kept skating by and she could only see him from the back and it had the name Elias on the back of the shirt.

ELIAS: In an aspect, yes.

JOANNE: The aspect she saw had long dark hair and the aspect little Jimmy saw had short blonde hair (laughs and Elias laughs) so I knew it was you! There we were out in California trying to see you and you were back here in Vineland at the skating rink!

ELIAS: Ah! But I may express to you, my friend, I may be projecting expressions of myself simultaneous in many, many areas. Ha ha ha ha!

JOANNE: So you just weren’t in California and New Jersey? Where else were you that day? (Laughs)

ELIAS: I am projecting attentions of myself in countless directions. Ha ha ha ha ha!

MARJ: Elias, suppose everybody that’s focused on this planet at this time were calling your name at the same time. Can you handle the volume?

ELIAS: Oh, yes!

MARJ: Oh, my god! Sometimes I try to get my arms around the enormity of what you tell us and that thought came to my mind the other day. I wonder if he can be everywhere at once and hear every one of us. How do you stand it?

ELIAS: (Laughs) And shall you recognize that you also incorporate this ability?

MARJ: I don’t know if I want to! (Laughs with Elias)

JOANNE: I don’t think I want everybody calling me! (Laughs and Elias laughs)

MARJ: Do you have a secretary?

JOANNE: Yeah, an assistant, like Mary?

ELIAS: Ha ha! There is no need! (Laughs)

JOANNE: I love it!

ELIAS: I incorporate countless me’s of me, which is quite efficient! Ha ha ha! (Pause)

JOANNE: Oh, I wanted to ask about the singer Scott Stapp. Laura and I both feel an affinity with this person. First I wanted to know, what is his essence name?

ELIAS: And I shall express to you as I have previously to other individuals, I may offer this information if the individual is requesting it. (Pause)

JOANNE: Well, it was funny. When I was at the concert, of course we were up in the nosebleed section and we had binoculars that we had borrowed, every time Laura would look down and see him, he was looking right up at our section. She’d hand me the binoculars real quick and I’d go to look and as soon as I looked, he looked away. So I wasn’t able to see his face the whole show. So we talked about it afterwards and I was wondering what was going on with that?

ELIAS: And what specifically is the nature of your concern, or your...

JOANNE: Because every time I looked, he looked away. It was just funny because she was trying so hard to help me to see him, and every time she handed me the binoculars, I’d look, and he would look away or run to the other side of the stage. I would just start laughing and hand her the binoculars back, and she’d look and he’d look up and “Oooh, look! Look!” and I’d look and he looked away! (Laughing and Elias laughs) So we did that pretty much through the whole show.

ELIAS: Interesting imagery that you have presented to yourself. I may express to you that you do both incorporate other focuses with this individual, but you incorporate different types of relationships and have generated creative imagery to yourself in an offering of information. For you have generated expressions with this individual in other focuses that you may view within your beliefs presently as not quite so desirable. Ha ha!

JOANNE: Uh-oh! (Laughs with Elias) Laura said hers were desirable...

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: ...and my dreams of him are all right! (Everyone laughs)

ELIAS: And express to myself definition of curious terminology of section of the arena that you occupied. (Looking quite puzzled)

JOANNE: Oh, the nosebleed section?

ELIAS: What is definition of this terminology?

JOANNE: Oh, that means in the arena we were sitting up really high and really far away from the stage.

ELIAS: Ah! I am understanding. (Laughs)

JOANNE: I couldn’t actually see him without the help of binoculars that help you see. It brings distant images up closer.

ELIAS: Curious terminology! (Laughs)

JOANNE: You like that, “nosebleed section.” (Laughs with Elias)

JOANNE: So we both had other lives with him?


JOANNE: I kind of thought that. Oh! Laura wants to know her essence name and family and alignment.

ELIAS: And your impression concerning family and alignment?

JOANNE: Well, I know she’s Gramada. That’s the only thing I ever get, so I don’t know if she’s Gramada/Gramada or... I know she’s family Gramada but she may also be aligned with Gramada.

ELIAS: Essence family, you are correct, alignment in this focus, Sumari.

JOANNE: Sumari?

ELIAS: Yes. Essence name, Phairley, P-H-A-I-R-L-E-Y (FAIR lee).

JOANNE: Like a fairy. (Laughs) Similar.

MARJ: Is she common, Elias?


MARJ: Most popular, I mean.

JOANNE: I was going to make a motion before, that we could alter the word “common” to “popular” or “most popular” orientation. (Elias laughs) For those of us that prefer the word “most popular” use that rather than “common.” (Laughs) Leave it open to everybody! Pick your own!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You may choose to incorporate any term, for in actuality there is no absolute definite term. I have merely chosen to be incorporating these particular terms for they most accurately describe the perceptions of each of these orientations.

JOANNE: I know, and I can say that word a little bit more now than I could before.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Ah! Perhaps you may be choosing to examine your negative association with this terminology and allow yourself to identify which beliefs are influencing of THAT association. Ha ha ha!

MARJ: Throw it right back in her court. Right, Elias?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Quite!

JOANNE: Well, whenever I say the word or think it, right behind it comes, “I’m not common!” So it doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t apply to me that way. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ah! (Chuckles)

JOANNE: I’m not, and so saying the word...

ELIAS: As an individual, you are correct. You are quite unique. Incorporating a perception is not who you are, it is merely the lens which you incorporate as the coloration, so to speak, of this one focus and its expression of perception.

JOANNE: I think that’s why it doesn’t bother me so much any more, because I have a better understanding of what you mean when you say the word.

ELIAS: Perhaps you may visualize the common orientation as the red lens of perception.

MARJ: Elias, can I ask you a question?

ELIAS: You may.

MARJ: I was in a local store the other day, a handsome, I have to say, gentleman walked up to me and said, “Do I know you?” and he kept saying that. He was so sure he knew me. We talked for a few minutes, and then we left the store.

My initial emotional communication was one of pleasure and excitement, so when I thought about it I thought perhaps I have set up a probability to meet someone who could be special in my life. I also thought that this was a validation to myself that that’s exactly where I’ve been exploring lately. His saying “do I know you?” seemed to me that was me asking me if I know myself. Do you have any comment on those three things?

ELIAS: I may validate your impressions, but I may also express to you an explanation that this type of recognition is actually expressed throughout your physical dimension quite frequently. One individual may within a moment incorporate a partial objective recognition of another individual in familiarity. Generally speaking, this is a recognition that the individual’s energy expression is familiar, for you have incorporated other focuses together.

Now; in these scenarios, both individuals do not necessarily allow themselves the same recognition of familiarity within the same moment, although this does occur also at times. Generally speaking, it is more frequently expressed that one individual shall be recognizing the familiarity of another and the other is not as aware of that familiarity objectively.

Now; this also occurs in projections. Individuals may be encountering each other in projections in consciousness and one may allow themselves an objective recognition and recall of the encounter and the other may not.

As to your impression concerning generating a relationship with another individual in a romantic expression, what you have offered to yourself in validation in this experience is an expression that acknowledges that you are allowing yourself to become more comfortable and more aware of self and therefore are generating an outward expression of energy that allows you to more freely draw to yourself another individual to be expressing a romantic relationship with in more of an ease.

For as you continue to generate turning your attention to yourself and becoming familiar with yourself and allowing yourself a trust and an acceptance of yourself, you also automatically, as a natural by-product, project energy outwardly in relation to other individuals with an expression of trust and acceptance, and this allows a clearer avenue to draw to yourself individuals that you may choose to be generating a relationship with. (Pause)

MARJ: Was that me asking me if I know me?

ELIAS: Partially and partially not. Partially yes, and partially a genuine expression of the other individual in recognition of the familiarity of your energy.

MARJ: When I was meditating this morning for a few minutes, I saw an eye. I kept seeing that eye and I had the feeling that it was me looking at me. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes. This is symbology that you offer to yourself in an expression of imagery that once again is merely your offering to yourself of validation that you are allowing yourself more to turn your attention to you.

MARJ: Great. Also, one evening when I was meditating I was thinking about trying to recognize my energy as opposed to other people’s energy, and I got such a power surge. I tried really hard to hang onto it until I could figure out whose energy it was, but it was so strong I had to stand up and walk around. I just came up out of the meditation. I couldn’t hold onto it. It was like I don’t know what I plugged into. I kind of think it was my own.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARJ: And it’s not what I’m accustomed to. I thought I knew what my energy was, on an even keel, and that was SO powerful. It’s hard for me to imagine that that’s me.

ELIAS: I am quite understanding, my friend. You have allowed yourself to become familiar with certain aspects of your energy in your physical expression associated with this one focus of attention. But as I have expressed to you all previously, you are tremendously more vast than this one attention. But in this, there are many expressions of EACH of your energies that each of you are not objectively familiar with.

In this, you allow yourself this experience quite purposefully in association with what we have been discussing, for in allowing yourself to momentarily experience the tremendous power of yourself as essence, you also reinforce your movement in acknowledging your abilities, knowing that you incorporate this tremendous power. You may tap into any aspect of yourself as essence to allow yourself to accomplish more of a recognition of your abilities within this physical dimension and more of a freedom associated with your choices in relation to what you want.

This is significant in relation to yourself, Grady, for many, many times you continue to express automatic responses in relation to yourself and many of these automatic responses that you generate are discounting of yourself. Therefore, offering yourself this experience to validate to you the tremendous power that you actually incorporate is an expression of helpfulness to yourself in NOT discounting yourself.

MARJ: Oh, thank you!

ELIAS: Or thank yourself! Ha ha ha!

MARJ: Yes, I’ll do that.

I’ll just continue along this line. I just wondered, for a while back, meditating, I would see things and come out of the meditation with ... bring something with me. But it seems like anymore I’m gone for about an hour and a half, two hours and I don’t objectively come back with anything I’ve seen or felt. I just have this feeling like, well, I just feel good and I know that I know something but I don’t know what it is. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes. What you are incorporating is an action of allowing yourself to be turning your attention away from thoughts, and in that action you are merely allowing yourself to familiarize yourself with your individual expression of energy, and in a manner of speaking, resting in that in an expression of comfort. For as you continue to generate an expression of comfort and in a manner of speaking safety within your own energy, you shall also allow yourself to generate more freedom in trusting your choices.

MARJ: Thank you so much.

ELIAS: It is unnecessary to be turning your attention to thought or even imagery in these time frameworks. This is not to say that you are not generating a purposeful action and movement. The allowance of yourself to rest in the comfort of your own energy is quite significant, for this very much so reinforces your expression of trust of yourself.

MARJ: And here I thought I wasn’t going anywhere or doing anything.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You all generate quite strong associations with objective doing and producing, but you may be generating significant movement without necessarily producing an objective expression.

MARJ: Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.

JOANNE: I’m back! (Laughs)

ELIAS: As always! Ha ha ha ha!

JOANNE: Laura has a question here. Well, we both do; we talked about it all week. We had some really interesting problems at work with our computers and stuff like that and we were wondering if you had anything to do with that.


JOANNE: No? So we were just doing it ourselves?

ELIAS: Now express to me what you have generated in relation to your equipment.

JOANNE: Our computers were freezing up. They just all of a sudden wouldn’t work.

ELIAS: And what is your impression concerning this imagery that you have presented to yourself?

JOANNE: We didn’t want to work! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Quite accurate, my friend! Ha ha ha ha! And in this, what is the message that you are expressing to yourself?

JOANNE: Well, I think we’re both kind of forcing ourselves to go in to work every day and work, and we don’t really want to, so things are breaking down and not working so that we don’t have to work. We can just get there and complain about what’s broken.

ELIAS: And how do you view that you may move your perception to generate a different type of reality?

JOANNE: Well, I think it comes down to just realizing that you don’t have to go to work if you don’t want to.

ELIAS: Or that you may offer yourself permission to generate your own choices and to direct yourself – in a manner of speaking, generate your own rules in association with your employment. You may allow yourself permission to create this in a playful manner, which in generating THAT perception, you do not view your employment as work but as an action that you incorporate in fun.

JOANNE: Yes, you’re right. Because I know when I first started the job, I knew why I had taken it and when I went in there I did enjoy it and I had fun. Then for a while we stopped laughing and it got really serious in there, and I didn’t want to be there anymore. A little bit at a time now we’re back to laughing at work, and I don’t mind going there when it’s like that. In fact, I would rather do that than what I perceive as the alternative, which is staying home.

ELIAS: But do you allow yourself to recognize that you generate this reality? Therefore, it is your choice. You may create whatever type of environment and expression that YOU choose, and you may manipulate the energy to be generating a type of environment within your employment which IS playful. It is not dependent upon the expressions of other individuals.

JOANNE: Yes. No, I know exactly what you’re talking about, because I remember having those thoughts about how I need to make this fun.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: It was up to me to laugh...

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: ...and have a good time. And we’re starting to do that. (Elias chuckles) It’s gotten a little bit better in the last couple of weeks, with laughing about different things that were going on.

The other thing that was still happening at work is every time I touch something I get such an electrical shock. I’ve been paying attention to the various shoes I’m wearing and things like that, and I don’t get it.

ELIAS: And it matters not what garments you incorporate. Ha ha ha! For you may choose to be covering yourself in rubber and continue to generate this type of expression! (Laughs)

JOANNE: I mean, I laugh a little bit, but it’s starting to be painful! (Laughs) And I can see the arc of electricity between my finger and whatever it is I’m touching. I haven’t been able to figure that out, unless it’s just me showing me my power and the energy that I do have in little ways.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, at times – and I may also express, with some individuals for extensive time frameworks – individuals allow themselves a tremendous openness in association with their energy field.

Now; as you allow a greater expression of openness with your energy field, you generate a considerable expression of what you recognize as electrical energy, and you do offer yourself evidence of this in this manifestation of sparks or what you view as this snapping of electrical energy.

In association with your physical dimension, electrical energy is one of the most powerful and fluid expressions of energy. As you relax your energy field surrounding your physical body expression, you allow a free-flow in generating your energy outwardly, as radiating from your energy centers outwardly to create this energy field, and generating also an intensity in that expression of energy which manifests in electrical energy. I may express to you, although you may allow yourself to not generate the physical manifestation of a painfulness in relation to this electrical energy expression, the reason that you generate that snapping or sparking is a physical objective evidence to yourself of the openness of your energy field.

In a manner of speaking, what you generate as you allow for an openness of your energy field is an extension of it physically. It radiates from your physical body form in a larger expression of extension. I may express to you, in general terms, averagely speaking, individuals in relaxing their energy field may generate an outward radiation of it which may extend in your physical associations between one to three feet, so to speak, outwardly from your physical body form.

Now; as you allow yourself a greater openness and you project this energy field wider, you also begin to generate an expression of tremendous electrical qualities of energy. Generally speaking, you do not express this type of electrical qualities in this manner within that range of one to three feet extension. Beyond that extension, incorporating a greater openness, generally speaking the individual shall manifest physical evidence of this electrical energy, and this is what you are generating.

MARJ: Right out of a science-fiction movie! (Laughs and Elias laughs)

JOANNE: It’s gotten to the point where a lot of things, handing someone something – a file which doesn’t really involve any metal and I have thick rubber-soled shoes on or sneakers – I’m shocking them. The file cabinets are horrendous. I mean, that arc is either blue or white and sometimes it’s a quarter of an inch between my finger and the cabinet, and I kind of just look at it, amazed. I broke the fax machine one day! (Elias laughs) I mean, I was just reaching out to push the buttons to dial the phone number and the shock that went from me to that machine, it just made the machine die. They had to get a new motherboard for it! (Laughs)

ELIAS: I may express to you that this, in actuality, is not an unusual expression in this type of extension of your energy field. In a manner of speaking, in the extension of one to three feet in your terms, the intensity of the electrical expression is not tremendously great. But as I have stated, in the extension beyond that physical measurement, so to speak, you generate a tremendous allowance of electrical energy expression, and you may be creating quite obvious evidence in physical manifestation.

Now; you may also choose to continue to allow yourself an openness with the extension of your energy field and direct that energy in a manner in which you are not necessarily manifesting sparks but allow yourself to flow with that electrical energy which may, in a manner of speaking, curb the actual electrical expression or manifestation.

Now; I shall also offer to you information that even in manipulating that energy in other manners, you shall continue to generate evidence to yourself of the extension of your energy field. Some individuals do allow themselves to move with the electrical quality of energy and in generating that action they may not be creating physical sparks, but other individuals become quite objectively aware of the individual’s energy expression and many times physically feel as though they are colliding with or bumping into the individual’s energy field.

JOANNE: Why I am doing that? Why am I expanding my energy field like that? Just because I can?

ELIAS: In actuality, my friend, this is not surprising in relation to your individual focus. You are continuously generating movement to be widening your awareness and to be generating more of an openness. This is a curiosity that you incorporate and a natural movement that you incorporate within this particular focus. In actuality, these types of actions move quite in conjunction with your individual intent, for you are continuously generating movement of expansion, and therefore this type of expression may be viewed as quite natural for you.

MARJ: That’s really nice, Elias. She might even be able to jump-start my car for me sometime if I needed it, right? (Elias laughs)

JOANNE: I’m going to change the subject completely. I wanted to talk about the mirror. I guess I better lay some groundwork here.

Recently I was thinking about losing weight and how I could accomplish that. I thought about beginning to do things that I wanted to do and not worry so much about dieting and exercise but just start doing things that I want to do and I would lose weight. Then I started to notice around me – mostly with my husband Jim, but with other people also – other people were losing weight and they were doing things that I would like to do. I knew in the mirror that it was trying to show me that this is a possibility, that I can create this.

But at the same time, the feeling in my stomach was this huge “I can’t.” I kept looking at it, and I felt like I was standing in front of a mirror and on one side of the mirror it was happening, but to objectively do it I just had this huge “I can’t,” and I don’t know what to do with that. I’ve seen it in a few other areas of my life too, where the mirror is showing me that things are possible and yet I have this huge feeling of “I can’t.” I was wondering if you could give me a hint as to where to take this, the next step.

ELIAS: Very well. It is significant that you are allowing yourself an objective recognition and understanding of the reflection that you are offering to yourself and you are noticing that you are generating this mirror action to be validating to yourself that you do hold the ability to be generating this type of action. It is also significant that you allow yourself to notice your communication to yourself in relation to what you are actually generating and expressing to yourself, that you cannot, and therefore denying your choice to yourself.

Now; what you may practice in action is in the moment that you recognize that you are expressing to yourself that you cannot, allow yourself to stop, notice, relax, and intentionally express to yourself permission to do, regardless that you are simultaneously expressing to yourself that you cannot. In that moment, offer yourself objectively permission to generate a choice regardless of the expression of “I cannot.” Once you offer yourself permission to generate the choice of “I can,” even in the expression of continued doubt, allow yourself to incorporate a brief action in physically generating a choice of what you want to express, even though you continue to doubt your ability to generate it.

What you are expressing, my friend, is a noticing and a recognition that you do incorporate an ability to appreciate yourself, and you reflect this outwardly through the imagery of other individuals. But as you turn your attention to you, you automatically express, “I cannot offer this expression to myself; I cannot generate this expression in association with myself.” What you are expressing that you cannot generate is a genuine appreciation of yourself.

Therefore, in the moment that you notice, incorporate this exercise in what you may term to be even small expressions of allowing yourself permission to generate an expression of appreciation of you physically in that moment. What you shall be accomplishing in this type of action is to be recognizing and acknowledging that you do incorporate certain beliefs, and you shall not be attempting to eliminate those beliefs or ignoring them but rather acknowledging their existence and choosing to move or manipulate your choices around them, so to speak. In this, as you continue these steps, so to speak, in acknowledgment of yourself, this shall become more and more familiar, and this obstacle that expresses to you “I cannot” shall become less and less forceful.

Now; what am I expressing to you in acknowledging an appreciation of yourself? In a moment that you are recognizing and noticing that you are expressing to yourself “I cannot,” stop, objectively offer yourself permission to express “I can,” and express an appreciation of yourself – not merely within thoughts. Incorporate some action in that moment that is a demonstration of your appreciation of self. Offer yourself a gift. Incorporate some action that is acknowledging of you, that is appreciating of you. This may be expressed in a few moments. You may choose, in your terms, to indulge yourself in any action that generates preference and pleasure within you.

This shall be sufficiently distracting to allow you to discontinue concentrating upon the expression of “I cannot” and it shall also offer you a reinforcement in acceptance of yourself, and this shall dissipate the expression of “I cannot.”

JOANNE: I’ll go with that. “I can’t” was like really strong and I had no idea what to do with it; but all of the imagery, the people around me were saying, “You can! I can – you can!” and that huge “I can’t.” I just had no idea what to do, so thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. You may choose in the moment to be appreciating of your being in an action of allowing yourself to relax within a bath. You may offer yourself a gift of chocolate. You may choose to be incorporating a walk and appreciating your connection with a flower. It matters not, but allow yourself an actual physical expression of appreciation of yourself.

JOANNE: This is going to be a fun exercise.

ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckles) (23-second pause)

JOANNE: Are you there, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes. Ha ha ha! Merely anticipating your next question.

JOANNE: Oh, sorry! Let’s see, what did I write down? My brother Joe, I was trying to get his essence name. I know he’s not here to ask, but I know he wants to know. So could you give us my brother Joe’s essence name?

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Wynn Li; first word: W-Y-N-N, second word: L-I (WIN lee). (Pause)

MARJ: Now we know why he wasn’t a focus of Giselle.

ELIAS: And what is your association with this?

MARJ: C9 had said at one point that Joe’s essence name was Giselle, and while reading a transcript all of a sudden I realized, “Oh, there’s Margot and she’s Giselle.” She asked, I believe, the last time she talked to you, if that was the case and the answer was no, so then we were trying to figure out what in the heck IS his essence name.

ELIAS: Correct. I am understanding. I may express to you, this individual does incorporate a focus that incorporates that physical naming.

MARJ: That was Joe’s physical name in another focus of his?


MARJ: Well, that makes sense. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

JOANNE: My older brother Michael who disengaged, was his essence name Tenray or something along those lines? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah, I am quite acknowledging of you, Gildae. Tennelay.

JOANNE: Spell that, Elias?

ELIAS: Tennelay, T-E-N-N-E-L-A-Y (TEN aa lay).

MARJ: Thank you! Laurie still has a lot of emotional feelings about Michael and his leaving so unexpectedly. It still brings her a lot of pain. One of these days maybe she’ll open up and talk to you about it. I know you’ll help her with it.

ELIAS: And the invitation is extended.

MARJ: Thank you.

JOANNE: Oh, have you been the dark-haired guy Marje talks to?

ELIAS: In dream imagery, yes.

JOANNE: She wants to marry you. I told her you were already marrying me! (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Laughs) Ladies, ladies! (Marj and Joanne crack up)

JOANNE: Yeah, we’ve had some laughs at work over this! (All laugh)

MARJ: Don’t you miss us, Elias?

ELIAS: And how may I be incorporating missing any of you, as I am interactive with you all continuously?

MARJ: Oh, it’s super!

JOANNE: I just thought of one more question.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOANNE: A couple times when I’ve had sessions with you, I thought for sure you had said something to me, and then later when I read the transcript or listened to the tape it wasn’t on there.

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, this is not unusual. As I have explained previously with many individuals, more than merely an action of verbal communication occurs as we engage an energy exchange together. In this, I am interactive with you objectively and subjectively simultaneously.

I am projecting an energy expression to you, and in this, you may be translating some aspects of that interaction into a verbal communication within your thoughts. Although you may not audibly hear this communication, you are allowing yourself at times to be incorporating more of the energy exchange that is occurring and translating that into actual language communication in thought. This is quite valid.

JOANNE: I mean, because I remember it clear as a bell.

ELIAS: I am quite understanding.

JOANNE: And it’s like, “Oh, okay, it’s not here; it’s not on the tape!” (Laughs)

ELIAS: Now; I may express to you also, at times this may not necessarily be what is occurring. At times, it is what you are generating – and what many other individuals generate also – an allowance of themselves to be translating more of the energy exchange as it is occurring between myself and yourselves into an expression of language which may not necessarily be audibly expressed within your recording, for it is not necessarily audibly expressed. But this is not to say that it is invalid or that you have not, in a manner of speaking, heard that communication, for you have.

Now; within other time frameworks, dependent upon your energy expression, you may translate what I am expressing to you differently than what I am actually audibly expressing to you in language.

JOANNE: Oh, yeah, I know. I’ve done that! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And so have many individuals! (Laughs)

JOANNE: It sometimes takes a little time, and then I calm down and go back and listen or read it, and then I really hear what you are saying...


JOANNE: ...not what I thought you were saying.

ELIAS: Correct. At times, this is merely an expression of the individual blocking their objective reception of what I am expressing to them, dependent upon their individual energy expression in the moment. But...

JOANNE: I felt that a couple times. One time in particular I know I threw up a wall, because I couldn’t hear a word you said.

ELIAS: Correct. I am quite understanding. But be remembering also that you do generate other actions at times which are not blocking and actually incorporating more of an openness to the energy exchange that occurs.

JOANNE: The one time I’m talking about, those things sort of happened in that one conversation with you on the phone. The wall went up and yet I left hearing something that later wasn’t on the tape or in the transcript.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Both situations occurred in that same conversation.

ELIAS: Correct.

MARJ: Well, Elias, our time’s up, unfortunately. I think we went a little over, but thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friends. I shall be anticipating our next meeting. To each of you, as always, I offer my tremendous affection and encouragement, and in playfulness I shall express to you, au revoir.

MARJ: Au revoir, Elias.

JOANNE: Talk to you later. Bye.

Elias departs at 3:51 PM.

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