Friday, October 12, 2001
Session 924 (Private/Phone) 
“Creating in Ease”
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra).
Elias arrives at 10:44 AM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
FRANK: Good morning! Nice to talk to you!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! How does the adventure proceed? (Grinning)
FRANK: It’s proceeding! It’s fun! (Elias laughs) I’m enjoying myself ... with your help, I might add! And now you’re meeting more members of the family, so that’s always interesting, too.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Very well!
FRANK: Let’s see, where shall we start here? First let me ask you, last night I was reading one of the older transcripts, previous transcripts, and in there you had mentioned that we had had several focuses together. I never really explored that, so I tried to do that a little bit.
I got this image in my mind of – how do I describe it? – sort of a middle-aged to older woman, sort of reddish hair, kind of dirty and unkempt, like a street-urchin type. I had the impression of this being somewhere between 1400 and 1800, and in England or France or somewhere in Europe. My question to you is, does that image have something to do with some focus we have together? Was that you or me, and was the time and place somewhat accurate? Although that was a pretty broad range I’ve given for the time and place! (Laughing)
ELIAS: (Laughs) I may express to you that your vision of the individual is correct and this may be recognized as a focus of this essence, and your time framework may be narrowed to early 1700s in a physical location outlying of Prague. Now you may continue your investigation and discover YOUR placement.
FRANK: You’re not going to tell me? (Laughs, and Elias laughs loudly) I will do that! Okay, that was number one.
Next, we have spoken in the past of this focus of mine that took place in Austria, an individual named Wessel. The question I have for you is, was that person a war criminal?
ELIAS: Not in the terms of being recognized as such, but in terms of your mass beliefs and actions and what you identify as morality, yes.
FRANK: I have the feeling there’s some reason I really don’t want to look at this focus, and I kind of suspected that that was the reason. Is there some benefit in me looking at that focus?
ELIAS: In actuality, my friend, this is dependent upon yourself presently and what you choose to be engaging in relation to your beliefs. I may express to you in both manners: yes, there may be a beneficial expression in exploring that focus in relation to acceptance of your beliefs and a greater acceptance of self concerning beliefs and recognizing that choices are merely choices. But I may also express to you that this in itself is a choice, and in choosing not to be exploring this focus, you shall not be expressing to your detriment.
FRANK: I was just ... okay, that’s a good answer. (Elias chuckles) I just knew that I was sort of avoiding that, and suspected that that was the reason why. So, we’ll see what I do with that.
ELIAS: Very well!
FRANK: Next, I’d like to ask you about a dream I had a couple of nights ago. I don’t remember this dream particularly clearly, but I wrote down as much as I could remember the next morning. In this dream, I believe I was in the physical location of Los Angeles with two other people, and I think they were people that are familiar to me or maybe in the dream they were people I was familiar with. But in any event, we were looking for money that I believe somebody else had either stolen or obtained illegally or illicitly. We didn’t want anyone else to know we were looking for this money, and I seem to remember riding around in a car or a taxi or something like that, looking for this money.
ELIAS: And your impression?
FRANK: My impression is probably not really clear, but the best I can come up with is that it has something to do with my beliefs that we have discussed previously regarding work and gaining money through work, as opposed to having it come without struggle and effort and that sort of thing.
ELIAS: Now continue in relation to this impression and attempt to offer yourself a further translation. (Pause) View your dream imagery. You are seeking out money, but you are also being secretive.
FRANK: Right, and I don’t feel right about it in the dream. I feel like these two people who are with me are sort of unsavory, I think, or there’s something about them that I don’t feel right being with them.
ELIAS: Correct. This expression is offering you information in relation to automatic responses concerning effortlessness and ease and the expression of being suspect...
FRANK: The expression of what? I’m sorry.
ELIAS: The expression of being suspect of acquisitions that appear too easily.
This is a very strongly held mass belief, my friend, and a challenge to be addressing to this belief, for the expression of worth acquired in struggle is quite strong. You attach value to what you acquire through work, perseverance, struggle; and in the moments that you allow yourself to acquire, in your terms, without struggle and in ease, you are suspicious of what you acquire, for there is an underlying expectation that you have not created a thing of value without the struggle.
FRANK: Is it also the issue, maybe, of feeling you don’t deserve it?
ELIAS: Quite! For you also express that if you are, in your terms, working hard to acquire certain expressions, you are also expressing your worth and that you do deserve to be acquiring what you seek.
FRANK: Well, as you’ve noted before, I’m lazy! I don’t want to work hard to acquire what I want. So how do I deal with this mass belief that I also hold?
ELIAS: Merely by noticing, recognizing that you do also align with this belief, and allowing yourself to recognize in certain moments when you are expressing more effort than is necessary. And as you allow yourself to pay attention and recognize your expression of effort at times, you may simply offer yourself choice.
FRANK: I think I might be ready to start doing that.
ELIAS: It is much less complicated, my friend, than it appears to be, or than you so fondly choose to create it! (Laughs)
FRANK: I really think I’m starting to get that in a lot of different areas – little by little, of course. (Elias smiles, and a slight pause)
Are you there?
ELIAS: Quite!
FRANK: I was waiting for a response! (Elias laughs)
ELIAS: You have acknowledged yourself!
FRANK: Let’s see. The last time that we spoke, we talked about another dream that I had back then, also. You said something that sort of surprised me because I didn’t think it was accurate, but I’ve learned that you usually are accurate. (Laughs) So let me ask you about this.
You told me that it was representing the fact that I had previously directed my attention to my job to provide security for my family but at the expense of interaction with my family, and that that dream represented a turning of my direction to choose to be more interactive with my family. I was kind of surprised at that, because one of the things I’ve felt over the years is that I’ve actually probably cost myself security and money because of wanting to be more interactive with the family, in other words passing up opportunities to do things in terms of job because I wanted to be able to go to my children’s baseball games or basketball games, not be traveling a lot, that sort of thing. So can you maybe address to that, where I have that wrong?
ELIAS: Very well. I am quite aware of the association that you have been expressing in relation to what I have discussed with you, and in this you are viewing physical interaction. You are viewing physical activities and events, so to speak. This is not what I was expressing to you.
What I am expressing to you is a turning of your attention in a different manner, not necessarily in relation to events and activities and incorporating more of a time framework in which you incorporate actions in relation to the family, but turning your attention in a manner in which you are paying attention to the expressions more closely, so to speak, of the individuals within your family unit, offering yourself a direction in which you are expressing a clearer understanding of their expressions and your expressions in relation to them, paying more attention to yourself in your interactions with these individuals.
The direction of your attention has altered. This is not in relation to time, so to speak; it is in relation to quality, understanding and attention.
FRANK: I can see that, and that’s certainly accurate.
ELIAS: I may express to you, at our previous meeting I was quite aware of the direction in which you were perceiving what I was expressing to you, and (laughing) playfully paying attention to your energy in the interim as to whether you would offer yourself a clearer understanding of what I was expressing to you! (Frank laughs)
(Continuing to laugh) Viewing your movement recently – figuratively speaking, in your head scratching! Ha ha! – I may express to you, my friend, it is quite amusing to be interactive with your expression of energy!
FRANK: Well, I’ve got more entertainment for you later today!
ELIAS: Ah!
FRANK: But we’ll get to that later. (Laughing) We have to work first.
ELIAS: Very well! (Chuckles)
FRANK: Just kidding, ‘cause I don’t view this as work. This is lots of fun.
Let’s go on to something else we talked about last time. We talked about this other dream where I viewed a probable self.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: I thought about that a bit since our session, and it seems to me that the point at which ... maybe I don’t understand probable selves much, but at some point this new probable self got launched. Is that maybe the way to describe it?
ELIAS: Very well.
FRANK: So this would have been back maybe, I don’t know, a year and a half ago, and it occurred to me that would have been at a time when I started interacting objectively with you.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: So now this other probable self is out there, of which I assume there may be multiple probable selves that I have?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: Is there a finite number of them?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, for this is continuously altering.
FRANK: Okay, but is there more energy lent to some than to others?
ELIAS: No.
FRANK: Do you understand what I’m saying?
ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding your expression.
No, I may express to you, it is not necessarily a situation of offering energy to one particular probable self or another or creating them in different measure, so to speak. As I have expressed previously, once you have created a probable self, that probable self generates its own direction. Therefore, it creates its own choices.
FRANK: But that probable self is just as valid as this probable self?
ELIAS: Yes!
FRANK: And there’s other ones out there, and we’re all doing our thing, whatever direction ... some are dead, some are not, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: I don’t know why I ask you this, but are you also interactive with that probable self in the same manner that you’re interactive with me? (Pause)
ELIAS: Not in the same manner, for the direction of that probable self is different.
FRANK: Then let me rephrase that. Are you interactive with that probable self in the sense of sessions such as we have?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: That’s interesting! I don’t know why I asked that; it’s just something that I find kind of intriguing. Could I communicate with that probable self?
ELIAS: If you are so choosing, yes.
FRANK: Would there be any benefit for either of us? I mean, other than for me to communicate to that other self to say, “Hey, look what you could have done, and you’d be a lot happier”?
ELIAS: Ah, but this is your assessment and your experience and your judgment! (Frank laughs)
As to the question of benefit, my friend, as I have stated previously, every choice that you engage is beneficial. It may not necessarily be pleasurable or comfortable, but every choice that you engage is beneficial in some manner.
FRANK: Because it’s an exploring of consciousness.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: Which is an end of itself.
ELIAS: Correct, therefore it is in actuality merely a question of your direction and your choice and what you choose to be exploring.
FRANK: I’m not even sure why I’d even want to do that. It’s just something that’s intriguing to me since we talked. I guess from the point of view that I’ve read about probable selves and I’ve heard things that you’ve said about probable selves, but all of a sudden here’s one that’s staring me in the face that I viewed in this dream, and who until this point of schism, I guess I would call it, was me. So now suddenly it has become very real.
ELIAS: I am understanding, and this has intrigued you.
FRANK: Yes!
ELIAS: Therefore, if you are so choosing, you may be exploring this expression.
FRANK: We’ll see what I do there! (Elias laughs) We’ll see what choice I make.
Now I’d like to ask you about something else that has puzzled me for a long time, but I think that maybe I have an answer for. In the business that I’m engaged in, not just myself but many, many people, colleagues of mine who are engaged in the same activity, lament the fact that people do not respond to their communications. Basically, they don’t return phone calls and things like that. It suddenly occurred to me that maybe this is just a reflection of the fact that we’re not responding to our own communications.
ELIAS: You are quite correct.
FRANK: Is that pretty much what that is all about?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: Also what I’ve found is to some degree this situation has changed for me to where people are somewhat more responsive, and it occurred to me also that again this is a metaphor of the fact that to some degree I’m starting to respond, recognize and respond more to my own communications.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
FRANK: Is there any more to it than that?
ELIAS: This is an example of how you create objective imagery as a reflection to yourself of what YOU are creating. In actuality, it is quite an efficient method of communication to yourself.
FRANK: Creating this imagery, you’re talking about?
ELIAS: Correct, reflecting outwardly what you are creating yourself.
FRANK: Right. Again, I think I’m slowly but surely starting to be able to interpret these metaphors, the external activity, the objective activity and what it means internally.
ELIAS: Quite. And, my friend, this once again is the point and moves quite in association with this shift in consciousness: widening your awareness, allowing yourself to be incorporating an openness objectively and a familiarity with self, not merely in what you create and what you are expressing but also how you are creating and expressing your communications with self. And as you become more familiar with your individual reality, you offer yourself greater freedom in choice, and you allow yourself an objective ability to manipulate your focus intentionally in the manner in which you choose and you want.
FRANK: Right, which is where I want to go and where I think most people want to go.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: It’s coming, slowly but surely here. It seems to me that maybe there are areas where things are more clear and areas where things are less clear, and I suspect it has to do with my own beliefs and rigidities within my consciousness?
ELIAS: Yes, and also where you choose to direct your attention.
FRANK: Like the thing with the family.
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: That makes a lot of sense. I’ll think about that one for when we next talk.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Very well!
FRANK: Let’s move on to some imagery that I don’t know that I really understand. About four or five weeks ago, my wife and I were cleaning out the garage, and one of us ... we have this old ladder, and we put it out by the side of the house, and a week or so later I realized that that ladder was gone. At first I thought the ladder was stolen, and then I thought maybe it just disappeared. So the question that I have for you is what is this supposed to represent? Because frankly I don’t know, was it stolen or did it just disappear? I guess the only other thing I’d add about it is I really didn’t want the ladder.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Now; in relation to what we have been discussing this day, recognizing your movement in directing your attention concerning ease in creating...
FRANK: Let me try this. Does the ladder represent sort of old beliefs that are no longer useful to me, that need to be discarded?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! This is a complication of your imagery, my friend. It is much more simplistic than what you are expressing presently. In actuality, you have placed this object in a location in which you believe it to be subject to vulnerability or what you term to be theft as a potentiality of occurrence, and also underlyingly wanting to be discarding of this object but not wanting to be incorporating effort in that action. (Frank laughs) Therefore, you have merely removed it from your objective reality. In your terms, as you have expressed, you have created it to disappear! (Laughing)
FRANK: So it wasn’t stolen.
ELIAS: No.
FRANK: It just disappeared?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You have removed it, without effort.
FRANK: That’s pretty interesting. I wish I could do that with a lot of other things! (Elias laughs) That would be a great way to clean out the basement!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! But allow yourself to view your imagery in this situation, for you have offered yourself an example of the benefit and what you may term to be value of ease, contrary to what we have been discussing previously this morning in relation to acquiring in struggle.
FRANK: So you’re saying, in the way I look at things that it’s okay to dis-acquire or remove things without effort, but not okay, in the way I view it, to gain things without effort.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: That is pretty interesting. We’ll think about that one. Maybe we’ll talk about that more next time, too.
Here’s another disappearing physical object. (Elias laughs) I have this flag hung up above the garage door on my home, and as of yesterday that flag was gone. I’m pretty sure that it blew away in the wind, and the question that I want to ask you is why did I create that action?
Before you ask me my impression, my impression is that ... I’m not quite sure how to phrase this, but it’s just sort of a questioning, I guess, of some of the patriotic attitudes that are so prevalent in our society now, given everything that happened with the terrorist incident. Now we’re bombing and doing military action in Afghanistan, and it’s not that I think that we’re wrong and that people are wrong, but I just think that people are looking at it too simplistically. Anyway, that’s my view of it, that this is sort of my representation of those thoughts that I’ve got about this whole patriotic thing that’s in the country right now. Is that accurate?
ELIAS: Yes, and I may also express to you, you have created this imagery in reflection of your expressions now in not focusing your attention objectively in concentration concerning what may be expressed or occurring in relation to country, so to speak. Your attention is focused upon your choices and your movement and what you are creating. Therefore this flag, so to speak, is not an accurate reflection of your own expression presently. Therefore, it also has been removed.
FRANK: So I pretty well got that, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: All right, now let’s move onto some other things here. I have an opportunity to enter into ... or maybe I should say I have created an opportunity to enter into a new business venture in addition to what I currently do, that involves publication of information on the internet. Interestingly I’ve created two options for doing this that are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I don’t want you to think I’m asking a crystal ball question here, but I’d like to get your impression of the situation and where I am currently in terms of this, and is it something that makes sense for me to do or not do?
ELIAS: As you are aware, this is your choice; but I may also express to you in relation to the manner in which you are expressing this question, you are expressing much more of a trust of self and your abilities presently. Therefore, I may express to you that if choosing to incorporate this action, you have incorporated enough awareness of yourself and your abilities to be creating an expression of fun in this activity and, in your terms, incorporate successfulness with it. But as I have stated, this is your choice.
FRANK: Well then, let me ask you this. It’s sort of interesting the way I’ve created this opportunity, because I’ve created not one but two. As I say, they’re not mutually exclusive and there are differences between them, and it’s not a simple thing. So why did I create these two choices as opposed to a single choice? To demonstrate that I have choices?
ELIAS: Partially, and to offer yourself different directions and to allow yourself to objectively view diversity in choices, that there may be similarities in choices or the direction may be similar but the expression of them may be quite different. This also offers you an opportunity of examples of what I have expressed to you previously in identifying that objective imagery is abstract.
FRANK: It’s interesting to me, because as I look at these two opportunities I see the choices and I see the differences which are pretty clear in terms of the over-all meaning of the imagery. I see a direction that I want to go, which is sort of a direction that I’ve always followed in my life with regard to choices. I’m just wondering, does it make sense to go in one direction just to try it out? Of course, there are reasons why I usually go in the direction that I usually like to go. Do you have any thoughts or advice on that issue? I know that’s not phrased very clearly.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Once again, my friend, this is your choice. This is the presentment to you objectively of an avenue of exploration and whether you choose to be moving in this particular direction of exploration or not, and this shall be expressed in evaluating your motivation.
FRANK: Can you explain that, the part about the motivation?
ELIAS: Recognizing or allowing yourself to view your motivation in choosing to be engaging this exploration – if that exploration is being expressed as a distraction or a challenge to be testing your abilities, so to speak, or whether you are choosing this direction genuinely in trusting yourself and incorporating fun.
This shall offer you a clearer answer concerning your choice, so to speak, as you allow yourself to examine the expression of your motivation.
FRANK: And it also gives me the opportunity to explore this whole issue of effortless creation.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: Although really everything I do gives me that opportunity. (Elias laughs) Right?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: But being that this is something new and different, maybe it will make it easier? Certainly more obvious.
ELIAS: Obvious. (Chuckles)
FRANK: The individual that wants me to work with him on this is an old friend who I have been in business with before, so I assume we have had focuses together.
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: So far I’ve gotten no ... I think I’ve gotten one sort of impression of being involved with horses at some point in the past.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
FRANK: Were we cowboys or something like that?
ELIAS: No. Engaged in an expression with horses associated with racing.
FRANK: Okay – well, don’t tell me any more! (Laughing, and Elias laughs loudly) I’ll work on it myself!
ELIAS: You may be quite assured of this, my friend! Ha ha ha ha!
FRANK: Next, something that I’m sure is very closely related to what we discussed earlier. Is the whole concept for me of being a more successful investor ... even though my whole life I’ve been in the investment business, I’ve never considered myself to be a very successful investor, except occasionally from time to time, but overall I’d say just the opposite of that. I suspect that a lot of the issues here involve this whole thing about effortless creation, that it seems like it’s too easy of a way to acquire financial gain.
ELIAS: You are correct, and therefore it becomes suspicious.
FRANK: Is there anything more involved in that?
ELIAS: No.
FRANK: So it’s basically that whole thing about not deserving gains that come too easily.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: Sort of in conjunction with that, I believe I had a communication from myself early in September that I should basically close out my holdings in the stock market or reduce them significantly, which I did not pay attention to because I don’t have any trust in what I think about what to do in terms of investments. (Elias chuckles) On the other hand, I get thoughts like that all the time in one direction or the other direction, so I’m not sure that that was really truly a valid communication. Can you speak to that?
ELIAS: I may express to you to pay attention to these communications that you are offering to yourself, for this is in actuality an expression of impressions. Impressions within the moment may not necessarily appear to you as rational or reasonable, and objectively you may not hold a clear understanding of them in the moment. But impressions are an avenue of communication to yourself that is an objective expression of knowing, and I may express to you, you may trust your impressions.
In this, you have offered yourself many expressions of impressions to offer yourself the opportunity to practice trusting these communications, and many times you express the automatic response of discounting them.
FRANK: Right, I don’t trust them.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: Or I don’t trust myself, as far as this goes.
ELIAS: Correct, and they are quite worthy of your trust.
FRANK: Well, certainly that one that I just described was quite worthy of my trust. (Elias laughs)
ELIAS: But let me also express to you, my friend, you provide yourself with these examples quite similarly to many other individuals, in association with movement into paying attention to your impressions and allowing yourself to trust them. For if you offer yourself examples in which you are not listening to those impressions and you are creating objective imagery to express to yourself the validity of them, you shall also offer yourself more noticing of them and allow yourself to pay more attention as you continue to offer these impressions to yourself. Ha ha ha!
FRANK: You know what? That’s a perfect segue into our entertainment for this session.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Do tell, my friend!
FRANK: On Tuesday morning I had an impression that I should back up my computer, and I didn’t do it because I was too busy or too lazy or I didn’t trust it or whatever reason. About two hours later, the power went down in the house for a very brief period of time but for a long enough period of time to basically crash my most important program, which I am now struggling to try to get back into the position where it was before.
ELIAS: Very efficient example of the significance of paying attention to your impressions.
FRANK: Yes. First of all, I recognized it, so I give myself a little credit for that...
ELIAS: Quite.
FRANK: ...as opposed to not even recognizing it, which would have been the case previously. And it was funny, because the minute it happened, the minute the power went off, I said to myself, “Damn, I should have listened to that one!” So I guess that’s good, too. I’m getting closer on this.
ELIAS: And I am acknowledging of you, my friend, for you are correct. You are moving closer to your trust of your impressions. (Laughing)
FRANK: But let’s talk about the exact thing, about what really happened. There are many ways I could have expressed to myself that I’m not paying attention to my impressions, but what I really did was to destroy this one program or at least a part of this one program. And what’s interesting about it is that the part of the program that is gone is a program that reminds me to contact people, certain people that I’m dealing with in business, to basically make sales calls and marketing calls and other types of things like that. So what’s been destroyed is this let’s call it a computerized list of things that I’m supposed to do or that I’ve scheduled for myself to do. So why that? There are a lot of things that could have resulted from this...
ELIAS: For this is also an expression of providing yourself with imagery concerning the subject matter of trust – not merely trusting your impressions, your communications to yourself, but also trusting your ability to rely upon self.
FRANK: In other words, I don’t need a list.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: Is there anything more to it than that?
ELIAS: It is imagery concerning extra steps, my friend.
FRANK: I have a lot of those, don’t I? (Elias laughs with Frank)
ELIAS: Therefore you have quite efficiently, as always, provided yourself with specific imagery that is related to specific expressions that you incorporate: trust, incorporating extra steps in your movement that are not necessary [and] that in actuality may be complications of movement that may be expressed much more simply.
FRANK: I’ve learned not to argue with you, but hell, I’m going to do it anyway! (Elias laughs very loudly) Just from an objective point of view, just looking at things objectively and knowing myself, I tend to be somewhat absent-minded with regard to a lot of things, and so if I don’t give myself a list of things to remind me that I should follow up on this or that, I just won’t do it.
ELIAS: And what are you expressing presently?
FRANK: Lack of trust in myself.
ELIAS: And discounting of yourself. (Chuckles)
And this is the point that you are emphasizing to yourself in this present time framework, that you do discount yourself and your abilities and that you are not trusting your expressions. In some directions you are trusting yourself quite effectively, but the point is, my friend, that this is the direction that you have chosen to be expressing, exploring, and addressing to in this time framework: addressing to your lack of trust or your discounting of self, and allowing yourself to recognize each expression in which you express that, and therefore allowing yourself greater movement into trust.
FRANK: Let’s talk about that as far as this particular area goes. I’m sort of starting with a fresh slate – my list is gone. Actually, my next move is to reconstitute the list, but are you suggesting that one of things I might do is just try to express trust in myself by not doing that and just seeing if I could live without it?
ELIAS: No, this is not what I am expressing to you.
Whether you generate the list or not matters not. You may be recreating your list. You may be incorporating that action. It matters not, and this is not the point. What holds significance is that you allow yourself the recognition of what has motivated you to be creating these expressions previously, merely to recognize that you do incorporate choice. I am not expressing that you do or do not create certain actions – it matters not – but that you allow yourself the awareness of what you are creating and what motivates that creation.
FRANK: Now that we’ve had this discussion, I’m pretty aware of what motivated that creation; but it seems to me that if I reconstitute that creation, if I do it again, the only reason I would do it would be lack of trust in myself.
ELIAS: Not necessarily. For if you are altering your perception through offering yourself information concerning what you are creating and the motivation of that and what is influencing of it, you offer yourself choice, which alters your perception. You may be choosing to incorporate the same action, but your motivation may be altered.
FRANK: So it’s a different reason.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: So it could be just to make my life easier...
ELIAS: Correct!
FRANK: ...as opposed to I don’t trust myself.
ELIAS: Correct. This is the point in allowing yourself to pay attention to what you are doing and choosing and what is influencing of that.
FRANK: The reason why.
ELIAS: Correct.
FRANK: That’s an interesting take.
One last question I will ask you, and that concerns my son. Yesterday when I was driving him home from his football practice, he said that suddenly things were different in terms of how he was playing the game or looking at the game or whatever. And I was just curious, did he have some sort of a quantum leap there or big change that occurred?
ELIAS: An alteration of perception.
FRANK: His perception changed.
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: Now, it sounded from what he said to me that his perception changed almost instantaneously within an activity. Is that the way it can happen?
ELIAS: Yes.
FRANK: I mean, I’m sure it’s not always that way.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. Many times individuals choose to be incorporating a process to be altering their perception, but this is not necessary. It is acceptable, but it is not a rule. You may alter your perception within a moment.
FRANK: He seemed much happier as a result of it.
ELIAS: Allowing an expression of relaxing energy.
FRANK: Which is good for him. (Elias chuckles) I know – no good/bad!
Well, thank you. I think that pretty much expresses what I had here for today. As always, it’s a pleasure!
ELIAS: Ha ha! And I am in agreement, my friend.
FRANK: And most enlightening.
ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our continuation of exploration of your adventure and anticipating more of an expression of fun and amusement! Ha ha!
FRANK: I think that’s a good call!
ELIAS: (Laughing) To you, my friend, as always I extend great affection, and express to you this morning, au revoir.
FRANK: Goodbye.
Elias departs at 11:50 AM.
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