Elias Transcripts – Session 623, Saturday, May 27, 2000

RODNEY: It’s all connected in some actually marvelous incidents that have occurred over the last week, and I’d like to point out that I just received – or at least I just became aware of – session 374, in which Mike/Mikah and you discussed authority at some length, and I had an incident last week that I’d like to discuss with you.

I interact with an individual at my place of work who is in charge of the computer system, and my computer system is malfunctioning at a considerable frequency, which makes life a little bit irritating. I’ve complained to her about it, and my perception is that she has ignored me. The other day, I saw the engineer working on a computer system that’s worth less than he earns or bills our company in thirty minutes, and I became very angry. I became very angry that the company I work for wasn’t willing to spend a relatively small amount of money to upgrade our system so that we didn’t have to put up with the irritation. And my response to her – or to the engineer, because I perceive him to be basically responsible for this, whether he is or not – I became very angry, and I probably responded automatically, although I was keenly aware of what I was doing. I told him that I was angry that the company was spending a considerable amount of money for what appeared to be useless work, and I think it was the energy of my words more than what I said that really got a few individuals upset. That was the end of it, or at least that was the end of it for last week. There are repercussions coming up in the near future which I will have to handle because of this outburst.

Then I had an interaction with a police officer, actually two police officers, and discovered that I had a dream only two weeks ago about a police officer. I’ve been totally surrounded by authority symbols in the form of police officers and people at work.

I had to focus a great deal of my energy on not making myself wrong for the outburst, but simply to let it go, because I’m really mindful of the fact that you’ve told me and others that judging ourselves for doing something that we don’t quote/unquote “approve of” simply creates even a more difficult energy.

So I think my question to you ... and I would like you to comment on this. At the bottom of this is my belief about how I perceive other people perceiving me. I wouldn’t have become angry with the engineer and with the woman who runs the system if it weren’t for the fact that I have a perception of myself which at the present moment is not serving me. It seems like perhaps I require other people to treat me in a certain way. Otherwise, I get angry.

I’m really not sure what my belief system is that brought this outburst to the surface, and I would like you to help me with that. Can you do that?

ELIAS: Yes. There are many actions occurring in this scenario. There are many motivations occurring in this action.

RODNEY: I’m aware of that, like I’m aware of the fact that I want the company to change what they’re doing, and that’s one of the motivations. But aside from what happens regarding the company, I think my real interest lies in, what are my beliefs that created this or prompted this?

ELIAS: There are several beliefs in motion in this scenario. You do engage a belief concerning what you identify as authority.

In your definition of authority, you create a separation of certain individuals, and you attach the idea and the belief, as associated with those individuals, that they hold the ability and the power to be creating your choices, and therefore that they in some aspects create your reality.

You also engage an aspect of beliefs, associated parallel to this belief of authority, that you create your reality in certain aspects, but that you do not create ALL of your reality.

There are some areas of your reality – there are some situations within your reality – that are NOT created by you, but are created by other individuals, and therefore, you are in the position of being at the mercy of other individuals.

There are other aspects of beliefs which are employed in this situation concerning your view of the behavior of other individuals and the responsibility of other individuals and groups of individuals that you view to be companies or corporations, that they hold a responsibility to the individuals that they employ.

You also view that you hold a responsibility to them, and in this, you create an assessment of behaviors. Certain behaviors are acceptable; certain behaviors are not acceptable. You justify your actions in expressing to yourself, were the other individuals to be creating behaviors and expressing themselves in acceptable manners, you would in turn be reciprocating with your behavior and your expressions.

There is also another aspect of belief systems in play in this scenario in which you view your reality and the physical elements of your reality, the corporeal aspect of your reality. Objects such as machines are breakable or may be malfunctioning, and it is the responsibility of you and other individuals to be maintaining these objects or machines, that they shall be performing in a working function in alignment with your expectations.

You also engage views of your value and worth, in association with how other individuals interact with you. In your perception, if individuals are ignoring you, they are offering a communication to you, in their expression, of their assessment of your worth ... or the LACK of your worth.

In this, you offer to yourself many, many, many different aspects of beliefs in this one action, this one scenario.

You have engaged several individuals, you engage yourself, you engage physical objects and your beliefs concerning them. You have engaged your own assessment of your value and your worth. You have engaged the assessment of value and worth of objects and other individuals, your trust and acceptance of yourself, your trust and acceptance of other individuals, and have provided yourself with an objective mundane situation which may be an example to yourself, and to many other individuals also, of what you term in your vernacular and your language to be normal movement, normal interaction, normal life that occurs upon a daily basis, in which you may allow yourself to view how very many aspects of beliefs are incorporated into every action that you employ, and how very influencing these beliefs are of your perception, and how your perception thusly creates your reality.

Now; which aspect of this scenario would you be choosing to address to first? (Chuckling)

RODNEY: (Laughing) Wow!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY: (Laughing) There are so many!

ELIAS: Quite, and they are all very influencing, and they all mesh together to create a movement which influences your perception, and you create a reality through that perception.

RODNEY: You know, in answer to your question, I would almost like to say, where is the silver bullet, so to speak, of a belief that would tend to make all of them ... would allow me to accept all of them?

ELIAS: Ha ha! Ah!

RODNEY: Because I’ve heard you speak in the other sessions about, you know, there’s a lot of conflict with some, and there’s a lot of confusion with others, and I think I fall into the camp of those who are confused, although maybe not as much as others, but that’s not the point. Confusion is confusion, and it’s like I don’t know where to begin. And I really sense an incredible value in my being very objectively aware of this incident and not allowing it go by without asking myself, why did I create it? Which is something you’ve taught me. It would appear to me that the foremost and most significant action for me to take – outside of writing these all down in front of me so I could really, really see them – is to accept myself.

ELIAS: And there is your silver bullet, my friend!

RODNEY: I hope so, ‘cause it appears to be a very, very substantial list!

ELIAS: This is the element that ties together all of the different expressions and directions of beliefs; not another belief that shall be encompassing of all of the underlings of beliefs, so to speak. But rather, the action of acceptance is the movement that shall become the glue that pulls together all of these different aspects of beliefs, and allows you to create a different perception which moves through all of these beliefs.

Now; I shall also be acknowledging to you in this scenario, that you HAVE allowed yourself to stop and to notice and to recognize certain aspects of beliefs, and to be paying attention to your behavior and your energy and your expressions, and in some aspects, you have also allowed yourself to be paying attention and noticing your own expectations in this scenario.

Therefore, you ARE allowing yourself to be widening your awareness objectively, and this is an element of the process which you engage to be moving into the expression of acceptance.

I may also express to you, a key element of all of this movement is the perception of separation. Your beliefs are tremendously reinforced in energy through the continuation of the perception of separation. As you view all of these different elements of your reality to be separated from yourself, you also lend to an ease in creating these judgments and lack of acceptance.

But I shall also be acknowledging of you in your expression within yourself to be averting your automatic expression of discounting of yourself or engaging guilt in association with your actions.

RODNEY: And that hasn’t been easy, but I’ve diligently noticed my responses since the incident, and whenever I’ve had any thought of guilt or judgment or self-deprecating thoughts or discounting of self, I’ve said, no, I’m okay, you know?

ELIAS: Correct, and I acknowledge your movement in this expression, for I hold an awareness of the difficulty that you engage, for this is a very familiar and automatic expression that you have created throughout your focus. And especially within this time framework, engaging this wave in consciousness addressing to duplicity, there is more of an ease lent to that automatic expression, in movement into the guilt or the discounting of self. Therefore, it is quite worthy of acknowledgment that you have diverted your attention to not be engaging that action.

RODNEY: Well, it’s taken me a couple of days to come to the ... to try to get out from underneath that, to see that I may very well have created a very valuable event for my own noticing, and after hearing all the beliefs involved in this, I’m tending to see that I’m going to profit a great deal ...

ELIAS: And so you shall!

RODNEY: ... from looking at this.

ELIAS: You are correct, and....

RODNEY: When you say the shift in consciousness lends ease to the forming of judgments, is that also true of the release of anger? I was a little bit surprised at the energy of my anger, you know, not that I threatened to do anything, but just ... you’ve spoken in the past about energy, and that it’s not really the words, but it’s the energy and the intent.

ELIAS: Correct.

RODNEY: And I was amazed at the level of anger that was in my words when I spoke.

ELIAS: (Intently) Now; be recognizing, I am not expressing to you that the shift in consciousness is lending an ease to these types of expressions. What I AM expressing to you is that this wave presently in consciousness, which addresses to the belief system of duplicity, lends an ease to these types of expressions.

RODNEY: So that we would be more noticing of them.

ELIAS: And that you may be creating them quite easily automatically.

The expressions of duplicity are extremely familiar to you, and in this, as you engage addressing to this belief system and all of the aspects of this belief system, there is energy lent to the expressions of all of these aspects of this particular belief system of duplicity.

Therefore, as you have stated, you easily expressed anger, and in an intensity. But you also are noticing what you are expressing and what is motivating those expressions and behaviors. You are allowing yourself to view not merely the automatic responses and noticing those automatic responses, but you are also allowing yourself to view what is motivating those automatic responses, and recognizing that the beliefs that you hold are extremely influencing in all of these expressions.

RODNEY: Thank you, sir.

ELIAS: Let me also offer to you an additional aspect of information in this scenario, one that you may otherwise tend to be overlooking, and that is the element concerning the object, the computer, for this is an integral piece of this scenario and is a significant player in this situation, for how you view this object and how you interact with this object and all that surrounds it is very mirroring of how you interact with individuals.

RODNEY: Really! You mean, how I interact with the computer is symbolic of how I interact with individuals?

ELIAS: It is mirroring of how you interact with individuals. It is quite similar. You view this in one aspect to be different, but your interaction is very similar.

You view this to be an object. You make a distinction between this object and living elements within your reality.

RODNEY: Yes, I do.

ELIAS: This object is not living. It performs a function. It is what you term to be man-made.

RODNEY: Well, I conceptually have a notion somewhere that machines are part of consciousness.

ELIAS: They ARE consciousness!

RODNEY: They ARE consciousness. (Laughing) I use that notion quite to my advantage in my relationship to my automobile, but I must admit that that’s probably the only place I truly remember that machines are consciousness and will react to me or respond to me as I relate to them consciously. That’s probably the only place I do that.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Now; let us view farther in relation to the functioning of the machine, or this computer.

In this, as you interact with this computer, you view it to be an object that performs certain functions, and you hold an expectation concerning those functions that it shall perform, and if it is not functioning in alignment with your expectation, you view it to be malfunctioning or broken.

In this, as you view this object to be malfunctioning or broken – or even SLOW – you evaluate that it needs be fixed. And therefore, you engage individuals that you define as AUTHORITIES, holding specific knowledge, to be performing actions of fixing this machine, for those individuals employ that ability and you do not.

Now; I express to you that the entirety of this scenario is ludicrous! (Rodney laughs)

The machine itself is comprised of what? Atoms. Atoms are comprised of links of consciousness, which bind together and create a physical manifestation which is an atom, and groups of atoms bind together and create physical matter, and physical matter is configured in the design that you have created to become this object that you identify as a computer.

(Almost yelling) This computer – living or not living, within your definition of life – IS comprised of consciousness, and functions according to your expectation in agreement with you, but is also responsive to your energy. Therefore, as you project energy, it is responsive in agreement with you, for it is ALWAYS in agreement with you! Therefore, if it is malfunctioning, it is creating that action in agreement with YOUR dictates.

And it is NOT malfunctioning! It is merely functioning differently than the dictates of your expectations.

It is not broken. It needs not be fixed. It is merely functioning differently, and YOU assess it to be broken or malfunctioning.

Now; as you allow yourself to recognize the lack of separation of consciousness, and you allow yourself to recognize that this object is not removed from you ... this object is an expression of you.

Now; I shall express this in different terms which may be more easily understood objectively. This object IS you.

As you allow yourself the viewing and the recognition and the knowing of this lack of separation, you alter your perception. You turn your perception, and this is the key, for as you turn your perception, you also alter all of your reality.

You are viewing all of these elements of your reality to be THINGS OTHER THAN YOUR CREATION. You view them to be outside of you, separated from you, not of you, and not your creation.

Theoretically, you may express to yourself, !”Oh yes, I create all of my reality. I have created all of the universe. I create myself. I create all of this physical dimension. I create all of my world. I create everything within it.” But in actuality, in what you term to be practical, realistic terms, this is theory. These are words. This is not what you believe.

You look at this computer and you do not express to yourself, “I am creating this computer now. ” You express to yourself, “Individuals have collectively created this computer by assembling parts and creating substances in metals and plastics, and have formed together this object,” and you have bought this object from another individual who ALSO did not create it, (humorously) but who has sold it to you, and you merely interact with it in its functions.

You look to the other individuals within your workplace, and you express to yourself, you are not creating them. They are creating themselves. In part, this is correct. In part, this is quite incorrect. You ARE creating them, for you are creating another projection of them. You are creating your own individual of them through your perception.

YOU are creating the object of that computer as it sits within your presence, every moment that it exists. YOU are creating the interaction of yourself and these other individuals, and you are creating THEIR interaction with you also.

(Intently) For you are creating your perception of them, which creates another actual, solid, physical, atom-and-molecule filled, matter-constructed, individual person, which speaks to you, which interacts with you, which physically touches you!

RODNEY: Understood.

ELIAS: And it is modeled from the blueprint of the creation of the other individual, which is a manifestation of the other essence, but it is NOT that individual. It is your OWN individual.

RODNEY: My own.

ELIAS: Yes.

RODNEY: The one that I’ve created.

ELIAS: Yes.

I express to you, and have been expressing to all of you from the onset of these sessions, you create your reality! Every moment of it, every aspect of it, EVERY element of your reality, you create! This is not figurative. This is literal!

RODNEY: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

RODNEY: This session is being very valuable for me. I have to cope with the aftermath of this next week, and your comments are extremely helpful.

ELIAS: In this, as you engage what you term to be the aftermath, allow yourself to be recognizing the lack of separation, and in this, that you are interacting with what you identify as other individuals, but you ARE these other individuals also, for there is no separation within consciousness. And this is not a concept – this is reality. You are they, and they are you.

RODNEY: Well, that indicates to me that even though ... that my only underlying guide in interacting with them next week is to accept them as I would accept myself, and work from there.

ELIAS: No; reverse.

RODNEY: Reverse?

ELIAS: Accept yourself as you would accept them, for you are much more willing to be accepting of them and excusing of them and offering what you may view as tolerance to them than you shall to yourself, and this is key.

For in actuality, what you shall express without the acceptance of self is merely a projection of tolerance outside of self, for you shall interact with other individuals in the manner that you interact with yourself.

RODNEY: And tolerance is not acceptance.

ELIAS: No, it is not, and be recognizing of what I have stated.

You shall interact with other individuals – and with all of your reality – in the manner in which you interact with yourself. You project that outward. How you interact with yourself is how you interact with all of your reality. This is the reason that the acceptance of self holds ULTIMATE importance.

RODNEY: Gotcha! (Elias chuckles) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

RODNEY: Wow. I think I’m gonna transcribe this session myself! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

Think to yourself also, as you are allowing yourself to be assimilating this information, the recall of the aspect of the machine, the computer, and how the interaction with that machine – that you view to be not living – is so very mirroring of your interaction with individuals.

For in the moments in which individuals are not aligning with or meeting your expectations, you also view them to be malfunctioning or broken, and you also view them to be needing of assistance or fixing.

RODNEY: Right. Wow! I got more than I expected this afternoon ...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY: ... Mister Elias! (Laughing) Hello?

ELIAS: Yes?

RODNEY: Oh! I thought I’d lost you!

ELIAS: Ha ha! You shall never lose me! Ha ha!

RODNEY: (Laughing) Okay! I am very thankful to hear you say that!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I am not to be lost! Ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY: (Laughing) Very good! (Elias chuckles) Can we move on to something else?

ELIAS: You may.

RODNEY: Do you think there’s anything else you would like say about this?

ELIAS: You may continue.

RODNEY: Okay. As a follow-up to this, on Friday night on my way home, when I’m working on not feeling guilty and not judging myself, I get myself pulled over by a police officer, who stopped me for one reason, for going through a stop sign, and then proceeded to discover that my insurance card – that we carry in the car – was outdated, and that I wasn’t wearing a seat belt. (1)

So, we interacted on a not unfriendly basis, and after I pointed out to him that if everybody drove as safely as I did through the stop sign, we wouldn’t need a police department – but I said it nicely, I wasn’t throwing stones, I meant what I said – he actually let me go without giving me the two more serious tickets, and he did give me a ticket for driving without a seat belt.

Now, I got up the next morning, went to work, and paid the fine. I put it in the mail. An hour later, I get a fax from a policeman who happens to be the chief of police in a totally different town, and a brief letterwhich is addressed to Rod, R-O-D, which happens to be my name. It says, !”Not sure what article he/she saw, but it certainly left an impression, in part. Gee, and I thought everybody loved me!” Signed G.K. The G stands for George.

I called up this police chief, and when I explained to him what had happened, he said, “This must be some kind of a cosmic joke,” because the fax had actually been addressed to a friend of his called Rod at a totally different place than my place of work, and the quote that was in it was all about an individual being very, very, very angry that society passed laws that said he had to wear a seat belt.

He ended it by saying things like ... I’ll read one or two lines. “You don’t have to say that to me. Are you going to make me wear diapers when I have diarrhea? Car phones are more dangerous. People like you must wonder where people like Timothy McVeigh come from. You create them!” He is talking to the police people, and then he says, !”Stay out of my car, stay out of my life. ”

It was a real expression of anger directed at police, at authority, and in light of what you’ve just gone over with me, I read this the other morning, and it was an unbelievable example of how we get angry – how we get angry at other people, and other people that we think of as authority. It illustrates perfectly many of the beliefs which you’ve just cited as working in my outburst of anger with the people of authority, or the people that I perceive to be authority, at the place where I work.

Now, I think why I wanted to mention this incident to you is the quote/unquote “coincidence” of this particular fax being sent to me the day after I had this altercation with the police department, and it wasn’t until the following day that it occurred to me how clever you are with electronic devices, and I was just wondering if you didn’t rearrange a couple of electrons in their fax machine.... (Elias chuckles) Could you hold a moment? I’m changing the tape.

ELIAS: Very well.

RODNEY: ... if you didn’t have something to do with this, or whether I created the whole event myself.

ELIAS: I express to you flattery, in your expression that I shall be offering such explicit imagery to you! (Chuckling, and Rodney laughs)

But I shall offer to you that this is not a manifestation of my energy which has created this imagery, but rather that you have drawn this experience and this imagery to yourself through your own imagery and energy to be reinforcing this subject – of perception of beliefs, of your identification of authority and how affecting the beliefs are in association with this definition of authority, and how this separation of individuals and placement of certain individuals into a position and role of authority creates tremendous obstacles within your expressions of your individual abilities, for you limit yourself tremendously as you incorporate these separations of figures of authority.

You allow these individuals – that you define as holding this elusive, magical power of authority, as holding more ability in certain expressions than do you – you allow those expressions of authority to dictate your creations and your choices.

RODNEY: (Sighing) Okay. (Brief pause)

Let me ask you ... I’ve been driving for over fifty years, and I’ve never had to wear a seat belt. Now, I know what I’m going to say to you is trivial and mundane, but nonetheless, it’s a fact in my life that I would prefer not to wear a seat belt. One of the reasons I don’t want to wear a seat belt is because it symbolizes to me that I am fearful of having an accident. In other words, it’s there in case I have an accident. So, in my way of thinking, I’m almost saying, “Okay, I’m gonna have an accident someday – better have a seat belt on when I do it.” And if I leave the seat belt off, it’s a symbol that I’m trusting myself not to be in an accident.

The state in which I live created a law which says that if you don’t wear a seat belt, a police officer can pull you over and give you a ticket and make you pay a fine.

Now, in accepting this, I am accepting the fact that I choose in the future not to be paying fines for not wearing the seat belt, alright? And it’s not such a great nuisance to put it on – it’s not the end of the world that I have to wear this seat belt – and I can accept that that’s the law, and I choose not to be breaking the law in a way that I’m gonna be fined constantly. I suspect that by accepting that all of this is my own creation, and in accepting that other people have done this out of their own intent to help people, if I truly accepted myself in all of this, and I truly accepted them as I do myself, I could probably go through the rest of my life without wearing a seat belt and never have to pay another ticket for it. I don’t know!

ELIAS: You are correct, for you shall create a perception and thusly create a reality in which you need not be engaging this belt, and you are also not breaking your law, so to speak, for within your reality, it is irrelevant and it is not a law.

RODNEY: And I brought this all together in a couple of days last week, as an example of where I’m not accepting myself, and having this incredible conversation with him.

ELIAS: You have offered this to yourself as an opportunity to view the influence of belief systems and to view the immense power of perception, and how it does – in reality – create your reality.

In this, you offer to yourself more choices, for as you open your awareness to what you are creating, that you ARE creating, and why you are creating, you allow yourself to create less in automatic expression and open yourself to your choices.

RODNEY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

RODNEY: I’d like to read to you ... I’d like to ask you a question.

I had a dream about two or three weeks ago. I don’t have the entire dream translated, so I don’t know the beginning of it. But in it, I find myself in some kind of a vehicle that’s kind of long and thin, maybe something like a bus, and there’s a driver up front, and he’s kind of like behind a glass wall, and he’s young, like me. They call him to come back so that we can see him, and he comes out. I dreamt that I think maybe Michael called him – I’ll mention that – and that there was a woman asleep in another room, and nobody looked in there because we didn’t want to embarrass her. Then I covered my face. I covered my face because the person who was driving the bus came back, and I took one look at him, and it was me! He was there to take care of the people and to drive this thing. And then I took my hands away from my face, and he was flabbergasted when he saw that I was him!

As he bent down to take a better look, I just pulled him down and I held him, and when I held him, Elias, my heart just exploded with love. It was an incredibly beautiful dream.

Now, I remember that in another part of the dream – I don’t know if this was before or after it – I was driving a car. I was very caught up in traffic, and when I got out of the traffic, I saw that I was on a wide, open road with no traffic. I began to drive very, very, very fast. Then I saw a car up on my left, on a side road, with flashing lights, a police car, and I saw that he was taking care of somebody else, but I knew that he might have picked me up on some of his radar equipment or whatever, so I pulled over to the side of the road and stopped at a junk shop and walked around, just to kill time, and then when I went to leave, I felt this hand on my shoulder, and I turned around, and I saw a gray uniform. I knew by the cut of the overcoat – there was no emblems, no insignias, nothing on this person’s attire that told me he was a policeman – only the cut of the clothes told me that he was a policeman. And when I looked into his face, I said, !”Oh my god, it’s another one of me!” I thought that was very funny, even in the dream and even still – another me! And that was the end of the dream.

ELIAS: And what is your impression of this dream imagery?

RODNEY: My impression of the last part ... well, maybe of both parts. But of the last part which I detailed to you, the traffic congestion on the road is the entanglement I’ve created for myself all my life, and that I’m beginning to untangle and to move forward in a more leisurely and more rapid pace, as to going where I want to go with my awareness, with my understanding of myself.

And the policeman that I saw very much stands for my own authority, and it’s kind of like, I questioned whether I could go as rapidly as I would like to go on this wide, open road, and it’s almost like I stopped in order for the authority symbol to catch up with me, so that I could see that it’s okay. It’s okay for me to go speeding down this wide, open road as fast as I want to go, because I am my own authority, ultimately.

The other part of the dream is that I am beginning to accept myself. I do not understand – in the first part of the dream – why I always create a woman, and she’s kind of like there, but not there. Could you comment on what I’ve said so far?

ELIAS: I express to you acknowledgment in your translation of your dream imagery, and of your impression in your translation. You are accomplishing well in allowing yourself the objective ability and expression of translation of subjective information into the objective imagery.

RODNEY: Thank you. Your encouragement helps.

ELIAS: As to your image of the female individual, this particular imagery serves a twofold purpose.

One is that this particular imagery is inserted into all of your dream imagery as an objective recognition of the female qualities that are an aspect of you, in a manner of speaking, therefore allowing you more of a balance of a recognition of yourself within your imagery, in a manner of speaking.

This also is presented within your dream imagery as another trigger, a dream trigger, and in this, as I have expressed previously, you may engage this dream trigger and merge into this dream trigger, if you are so allowing yourself, and you may access other areas of consciousness and other information.

RODNEY: Would you suggest I attempt to do that within the dream?

ELIAS: Yes, within the dream. This....

RODNEY: In other words, give myself a suggestion that when this occurs in my next dream, that I would become more aware of what’s happening in the dream?

ELIAS: You may engage that action.

In this, as you allow yourself to approach any dream trigger and merge into that dream trigger, it shall alter, and in a manner of speaking, transform into a portal of consciousness.

RODNEY: Would it be possible for me to do this within meditation?

ELIAS: Yes.

RODNEY: Objectively?

ELIAS: Yes.

RODNEY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

RODNEY: Time is running on, so I do have another quick question. Actually, I have a large sequence of questions! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

RODNEY: I think I’ll have to wait for another day!

I had another dream in which – to make it very quick – I was in the basement, I came out of the basement, I think I went flying with a balloon and came back down, and then there was a huge dirigible. It was at night, and I thought it was purple-ish, and I thought it was rising, but it wasn’t. It was coming down, and it crashed. I think it burned up the woods and it burnt up the house.

And then many years later, I was back visiting the site. The old house was gone and the woods were gone. The woods were planted in spring growth, and there was a new house there that appeared to be old, and in the house was a man I know, and I’ll only use his first name – his first name is Dan – and it was very old, and around the house was memorabilia that we had collected from our teachers. I happen to know that this man and I, although we only met about a year ago ... it’s uncanny, but we’ve read a large number of the same books and studied the same teachers and had some very similar ideas about reality. He didn’t get up in the dream because he was sick.

The question about this dream is, am I running a counterpart action with this Dan, not only because of the dream, but because of what I know of him? And do I have any other relationship to him? And is the dream in any way descriptive of events that may take place or have taken place?

ELIAS: The dream imagery itself is indicative of the action that you engage with this individual. Yes, you do engage counterpart action with this individual.

As to other actions that you engage with this individual, I shall express to you, you do hold other focuses with this individual that you may be investigating, if you are so choosing, or if you are employing curiosity concerning your other interactions.

RODNEY: Symbolically, what is the ... can you shed some light on the burning or the crashing of the dirigible?

ELIAS: This is merely a symbolic creation of imagery as to your identification with the clearing of old established structures and areas, so to speak, within your focus, and also within the focus of this other individual, and the replacement of that expression of old with the expression of new freedoms.

RODNEY: Very good. Elias, I thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.

RODNEY: This has been a most enjoyable afternoon – enlightening.

ELIAS: I anticipate our continuation futurely.

RODNEY: Please! Thank you!

ELIAS: I offer to you much encouragement, my friend, and an expression of affection in energy, that you be continuing in your movement.

RODNEY: Thank you, sir.

ELIAS: To you this day, au revoir.

RODNEY: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:35 PM.

Endnotes:

(1) This is a note from Rodney regarding his state of mind when he got pulled over: “It happened going home on the day of the angry outburst. I was in deep reverie of the day’s events, and I was tired to an almost weary state. I was driving much slower than the other traffic, and when I talked to the police officer, I was speaking in the quiet tones of a tired, exhausted, and exasperated individual. I had the feeling of, ‘God, just give me the tickets so I can go home, lay down, and sleep.’”

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