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Friday, May 03, 2002

<  Session 1073 (Private)  >

ďThe Illusions of Time and SeparationĒ

ďBeliefs, Acceptance, and Physical AppearanceĒ


Participants: Mary (Michael) and Scott.

Elias arrives at 1:22 PM. (Arrival time is 31 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

SCOTT: Hi there, Elias!

ELIAS: Welcome!

SCOTT: Thank you. How are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

SCOTT: Iím not too bad Ė a little nervous about this whole phenomenon.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I assure you that I do not bite. (Chuckles)

SCOTT: Well, Iím going to start from the basics. How do we create this reality and the separation, the sense of time? Is that enough to go on? (Pause)

ELIAS: Quite intricate questions! ďHow do you create this reality?Ē

SCOTT: Itís an extension of our essence, right?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. Not entirely, but in a manner of speaking, yes. And your question in relation to time and separation?

SCOTT: Iíve read that we create a sense of separation thatís an illusion, for lack of a better term, and also we create the sense of time thatís just an illusion. Itís something that we create here.

ELIAS: I may express to you, time and separation are quite real within your physical dimension. They are, in a manner of speaking, an illusion. Separation is quite an illusion although it is also quite real, for it is quite real within your perception and in what you generate.

Time is an expression. This is an expression within consciousness, and therefore, in a manner of speaking, in some aspect it exists in itself, but not necessarily in the configuration of your physical dimension.

You configure this expression or this action of consciousness within your physical dimension to be moving in a particular manner which you generate quite purposefully, for it allows you to incorporate a slowness of vibration and allows you a more efficient expression of objective awareness. Objective awareness moves much more slowly than subjective awareness, for you are paying attention objectively to what you actually generate physically and manifesting physically, and your physical manifestation of yourself and your exploration of expressions of consciousness translated into physical displays.

In relation to creating an actual physical reality, this also involves the configuration of time, for you interplay the movement of time with your manipulation of consciousness, which creates physical manifestations. The slowness of linear time allows you the movement of configuring energy and generating actual physical matter, physical manifestations, which may be much more difficult without a configuration of time.

You do not necessarily absolutely incorporate this particular configuration of time to generate physical manifestations, but for the most part, in any physical dimension there is almost a requirement of incorporating some movement of slowing the expression of time to be filtering energy and configurations of consciousness into an actual physical manifestation.

SCOTT: So weíve created time as a means to slow things down and actually experience objectively?

ELIAS: Yes, physical manifestations and physical exploration of an area of consciousness.

Separation, conversely, is not intrinsic in consciousness. This is a belief which has been generated within your physical dimension purposefully to allow you the purity of your experiences, to allow you to explore aspects of consciousness in this particular design of this area of consciousness.

The movement of consciousness is the same, regardless of whether the attention is within a physical dimension or a nonphysical area of consciousness. Consciousness moves to continuously be exploring itself, to be expanding and generating more of itself through the exploration of itself, a continuous folding in and discovery which expands, and within your physical dimension you generate the same action. You are merely choosing to be participating in an expression of consciousness that generates that exploration in a physical manner, which matters not. In this, the expression of singularity and separation is in actuality an illusion, although you generate it quite real.

As to HOW you create your reality, my, this may be a question that perhaps shall incorporate a tremendous discussion! (Chuckles)

SCOTT: Iím going to ask some personal questions.

ELIAS: Very well.

SCOTT: Why do I create for myself such a blocking of my creativity? I like art, I can appreciate writing, I want to write, but when I go to do it I just sort of freeze. The same with mathematics Ė when I was younger I used to be quite gifted at it, but now when I go to sit down to work, I can only focus on, I donít know, fear or distraction. Itís like Iím worried about what other people think, and I canít just focus on the material and do it. I seem to hold a lot of fear and anxiety over doing basic math, where years ago it didnít used to do that for me.

ELIAS: Very well. Let us explore this expression. What is the emotional communication that you generate in the moment as you begin to engage an activity in relation to mathematics?

SCOTT: My emotional communication?

ELIAS: Or rather, merely identify the emotional signal.

SCOTT: I think itís basically a fear of making a mistake or getting it wrong. To me, math is so absolute. Getting it wrong isnít really that big of a deal but I perceive that it is, like I think itís a really big deal. Iíd rather not do it than do it and get it wrong. Iím very judgmental of myself in that respect.

ELIAS: And you have answered your question (Scott laughs), for you are discounting of yourself but you are also viewing certain expressions within your reality as absolute, and they are not Ė even mathematics, which is relative to your physical dimension. It is not a truth. It is a language that you have created within this physical dimension that you allow to be what you term as universal and may be translatable in any of your physical languages, but it is quite relative to your physical dimension; therefore, it is also not an absolute.

View your physics, my friend. Even this that you observe and you think of as such an absolute changes. What may be fact within one moment is not within another moment. That which may be proved mathematically in one moment may be disproved within another moment, mathematically. It is not an absolute.

Therefore, perhaps you may examine your judgment upon yourself and your discounting of yourself in generating right and wrong. It is not that you do not incorporate a propensity for mathematics any longer. You are presenting to yourself imagery to offer yourself a message, not concerning mathematics, concerning judgment and the absoluteness of right and wrong, and there is no absolute concerning right and wrong. (Chuckles)

SCOTT: A quick question: are there any examples that are sort of documented of the laws of physics changing from one moment to another?

ELIAS: They are altering now. Your physicists are incorporating new discoveries. Look to your individual of Einstein and the lack of absolutes even within your initial question concerning time. Prior to his investigation, how absolute did you view time to be? And it is not. It is quite bendable and changeable.

SCOTT: A medical question Ė I think itís connected to the highly judgmental attitude I have towards myself and my work and my expressions Ė itís the bad acne on my shoulders, which is pretty severe in appearance. Itís got scars and stuff on it. Why am I creating this? What am I supposed to be noticing from this? I think or I feel that itís connected to all the judgment. But if I do what I want and not worry about it, it wonít exist? It will go away? Is there truth in what Iím saying?

ELIAS: You are partially correct. I may also express to you, as you allow yourself to be accepting of your physical manifestation, your choice of physical presentment of yourself, and as you allow yourself to be accepting in association with exposure of yourself, openness, you shall discontinue generating this type of manifestation.

SCOTT: So it is connected.

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause) Exposure is an interesting expression within your physical dimension, for you associate this quite closely with vulnerability, and your openness with yourself and in relation to other individuals. This associates quite closely in your perceptions to concerning yourself with how other individuals perceive you.

SCOTT: Thatís a large part of what consumes my intellect or whatever. Iím worried about other people and what they think, instead of being able to focus on the task at hand and just do it and get it done. I know I can do it, but I just worry too much about what other people think, and itís all connected somehow.

ELIAS: And this is the significance of turning your attention to you, paying attention within the now, not projecting pastly or futurely Ė for these are illusions in themselves Ė but continuing to hold your attention within the now and paying attention to you and what you are generating, and allowing yourself to trust your expression and your choices and not concern yourself with the perception of other individuals. For in actuality, my friend, you are creating them, anyway. (Chuckles)

SCOTT: Wow. Itís true. We create everything, but the common thing is how other people are going to act towards us, like we create what we expect from them, right?

ELIAS: You create what you concentrate upon. At times, you do generate precisely what you expect and at times you do not.

It is a matter of what you are concentrating upon, and I am not speaking of thought. You may generate thought continuously, you may pay attention to thought, you may project this energy of thought, you may repeat thought, and this does not create your reality. It does not generate reality. It is not its function. And concentration is not necessarily associated with thought.

Concentration is an aspect of your attention in association with your beliefs; therefore, what you BELIEVE, you shall create. And if you are aware of your belief Ė even if you are not aware that it IS a belief Ė but if you are aware of the expression of a belief, you may generate an expectation in association with that belief, and if you are concentrating upon that belief, you SHALL create what you expect.

Many times the snare of expectations is that it tremendously limits you and discounts you and also generates tremendous potential for disappointment.

SCOTT: I think Iíve been doing a lot of that in my life, especially in my high school years. I was never happy. Only until recently, when Iíve been studying your material and come to accept a few things, I feel like I have more energy and can say now thereís a little improvement there. Itís been quite beneficial in that way.

ELIAS: And as you continue, my friend, you may allow yourself a genuine freedom, for what is generally misunderstood is that actual freedom is generated through paying attention to you and acceptance and trust of yourself, in which you allow yourself to freely express.

But in association with beliefs and familiar expressions within your reality, individuals view that they do not generate their reality but they acquire it, and therefore you do not incorporate the power to be expressing, for you are continuing to look to be acquiring. Many times you view your reality or your expressions quite reverse to what they actually are. You wish to be acquiring from other individuals or situations when in actuality what your genuine want is to allow yourself to express and to generate.

SCOTT: With the term ďacquiring,Ē that implies that reality exists outside of us, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: Of course, it doesnít.

ELIAS: Correct. Individuals look to be acquiring money or acquiring a relationship or acquiring affection and love from other individuals, which is not the manner in which you generate your reality but rather the reverse, that your genuine want is to generate this yourselves, to create this, and to offer yourselves the acceptance and trust of yourselves to freely express. You do not want affection from another individual; you want to express this yourself.

Even in a physical manifestation of an object such as money, you do not want it to be given to you, you want to generate it, and this creates the drive to incorporate an action. And what are the words that you incorporate in relation to this? Making money. But you do not believe that you make money, you acquire money. Some expression outside of you gives it to you for some reason, but in actuality YOU generate it.

SCOTT: I think an example I can relate to on this subject is when I do two types of work. I do consulting where I actually bill directly for my work, versus being an employee. I find that consulting is so much more satisfying, because I can say, ďOkay, hereís the amount I want.Ē Although the last time I sold myself a little short Ė different subject! (Elias chuckles) ďHereís the amount I want; hereís the work. Iím happy to do it,Ē whereas, as an employee, itís different. As an employee, itís easy to see that you just acquire money, whereas when youíre going out getting business, you can see that youíre actually making it.

ELIAS: It is merely a difference in perception, for what you are actually doing is the same Ė but different. For in one you acknowledge yourself and you reinforce yourself in validation and you reinforce your trust. In the other, you continue to discount yourself and reinforce a lack of trust of your ability, for you credit something or someone else with your accomplishment. (Pause) (Chuckles)

SCOTT: Iíve actually got a question my dad mentioned to me regarding drugs and doctors. Iíve got a couple of my own. His question was, you know the placebo tests where they have one as a fake pill and the other half is the real thing? If the patientís totally unaware of the difference in medication, why is there a different outcome?

ELIAS: In actuality, my friend, you generate this type of expression continuously within your physical reality.

It matters not that you incorporate an objective awareness of your beliefs or recognition of your beliefs or recognition objectively of your knowing. You generate associations with them, regardless. You do not always recognize that you incorporate a belief. You generate an association that some expressions merely ARE. You do not necessarily define WHAT they are, but that they merely ARE; therefore they are not a belief.

In this, you incorporate highly sophisticated physical mechanisms of body consciousness, and your beliefs are tremendously affecting. It matters not that you are objectively told, ďThis one substance is illusionary and incorporates no affectingness, and this one substance does.Ē In actuality, NO substance incorporates ANY affectingness intrinsic to itself. It is merely your BELIEFS that generate ANY affectingness.

You believe certain substances shall generate certain affectingnesses. If you incorporate certain pharmaceuticals, you shall experience certain effects. This is your belief in cause and effect, which is a belief; it is not an absolute, and it is not a truth. You believe that if you are consuming certain substances that you define as drugs, not necessarily pharmaceuticals, you shall incorporate specific experiences for the drug shall induce this, for it is an expression intrinsic to the drug. The drug incorporates no intrinsic affectingness.

SCOTT: Just the belief that it does?

ELIAS: Yes. You believe that if you are consuming fermented beverages that you shall incorporate certain experiences. You do, merely in association with your beliefs.

And in this, in association with your beliefs, as you ingest one manifestation of one substance that you term to be a placebo, your body consciousness recognizes. It recognizes what you believe and what you do not. You do not believe that a placebo shall be affecting of you, therefore it is not.

SCOTT: So, is body consciousness something subjective that youíre not objectively aware of?

ELIAS: The body consciousness is directed by your subjective awareness, but do not misunderstand, for there is no aspect of the subjective awareness that may not be incorporated in the objective awareness. It is merely a matter of whether you choose to pay attention. You incorporate the ability to be fully objectively aware of every expression that you generate subjectively. There is no expression of subconsciousness, of hidden aspects of yourself. It is merely a matter of attention. You are merely unfamiliar with moving your attention. But any expression you generate within your physical body consciousness or subjective awareness your objective awareness may be incorporating also.

SCOTT: So would that be something like memory as well? I was trying to remember something last night and it wouldnít come to me, but at one point I know I knew it. Am I just not aware of it or am I not listening to something?

ELIAS: It is a matter of attention. As you move your attention, you allow yourself more clarity in what you express within yourself and in what you express outwardly. And be remembering, your beliefs are expressed regardless of whether you are recognizing them or not. Many times you are not.

This, once again, is associated with attention, and this is the reason that I continue to express to individuals repeatedly the importance of paying attention to self, paying attention to your communications that you offer to yourself in all of your avenues of communication, and also paying attention to your choices and what you actually generate, what you actually do Ė not merely what you THINK you do or what you think you want Ė but what you ACTUALLY generate in manifestation.

SCOTT: Would that mean what we actually actualize? Is that the correct term?

ELIAS: Yes. What you actually create and what you actually choose.

SCOTT: Iíd like to ask some quick questions about my orientation, family, alignment. It seems like three or four common questions; I forget what they are.

ELIAS: Very well, and shall you offer your impressions?

SCOTT: I think Iím intermediate.

ELIAS: You are correct.

SCOTT: As to the others, Iím not sure. I like art and science. Sumafi?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment in this focus, Gramada.

SCOTT: How many focuses do I have?

ELIAS: Four hundred ninety-one.

SCOTT: Have I met any of them objectively?


SCOTT: What about my girlfriend, Kate? Family and orientation?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumari; alignment in this focus, Milumet; orientation, common.

SCOTT: I would have guessed common. (Elias chuckles) Number of focuses?

ELIAS: Seven hundred four.

SCOTT: Whatís my dadís orientation, family, alignment?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment in this focus, Ilda; orientation, common.

SCOTT: Number of focuses?

ELIAS: One thousand eighteen.

SCOTT: Iíll get it for my mom as well.

ELIAS: Essence family, Tumold; alignment in this focus, Borledim; orientation, common.

SCOTT: Number of focuses?

ELIAS: One thousand six.

SCOTT: Am I whatís called a final focus?

ELIAS: And your impression? (Pause)

SCOTT: I havenít got a read.


SCOTT: What about my dad, is he a final focus?


SCOTT: Thatís interesting, because heís the one who introduced me to this material. Heís mentioned that thereís a tendency for final focus people to come and speak with you.

ELIAS: This is correct, although not all individuals that interact with myself are designated final focuses. (30-second pause)

SCOTT: About appearances and images of ourselves, if you accept that you look a certain way or that you want to look a certain way, then eventually over time youíll look like that, in terms of body structure, size, appearance, hair color?

ELIAS: Prior to physical manifestation, an essence may choose a potential of physical body type and what you term to be structure.

Now; many times essences manifest certain manifestations in preference. Essences choose a particular appearance that is preferred within their energy expression and generate many focuses that may appear quite similarly.

SCOTT: So thatís a tendency to have an objective appearance, for a particular essence to be similar in appearance?

ELIAS: Many times, although not all of the essenceís focuses shall be similar in appearance, for this becomes quite mundane. It does not allow for a diversity of experience.

But I may express to you, you do incorporate the ability to be altering of physical experience and physical manifestation in how it is expressed. In actuality, although you do not generally create this in your experience, you do incorporate the ability to alter the entirety of your physical expression; but generally speaking, one focus does not choose to be incorporating that type of action. You may even alter your gender, if you are so choosing, without your medical sciences. (Chuckles)

SCOTT: So, exercising is unnecessary?

ELIAS: It is associated with the individualís beliefs. If the individual strongly aligns with a belief that suggests that maintaining their physical body structure and expression in the manner in which they choose requires physical exercise, this is what they shall generate.

SCOTT: For example, Iíve sort of been picturing myself as looking bigger, stronger, taller, but Iíve been doing very little exercise, yet Iím putting on weight and my muscles are growing and stuff. Is that an instance of this?

ELIAS: Yes. You do not require the rules that are associated with your beliefs, for there are no absolutes, my friend. Therefore it matters not. It is merely literally a matter of your perception, for what you generate through your perception is what you shall actually physically manifest. You may consume whatever you choose...

SCOTT: Or not at all?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: As long as you hold to that projection of yourself?

ELIAS: Correct, and you may incorporate exercise or not. You may incorporate being sedentary and continue to generate the type of physical body expression that you want, if you are allowing yourself a clear awareness.

SCOTT: How come it can change from day to day? For example, my girlfriend says this often, but Iíve felt this way too a few times, one day youíll feel out of shape and feel like you have to work at the gym, and the next day you just feel like youíre projecting a different image. Why does that change?

ELIAS: For this is the nature of reality, my friend. Every expression is generated in the moment. It is not constant. You generate choices in every moment: a choice to continue in physical manifestation, a choice to function, a choice to generate any expression, and choices in association with perception and probabilities. Every aspect of your reality is generated in the moment, and it may change moment by moment. As I have stated, you may choose an action of breaking a bone in one moment, and in what you perceive to be the very next moment it may be not broken.

SCOTT: So if you get injured, if you actually believe that youíre no longer injured, youíll just heal?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: What is this that Iím creating on my face? Itís always red, and sort of burning, flushing. I feel that itís sort of somehow related to acceptance of my sexuality. I was sort of embarrassed about it for a long time, and I didnít start being sexually active with my girlfriend until fairly recently at 19, which is fairly old I think, for the average, but I donít really care about that. Is this some sign of lack of acceptance?

ELIAS: Partially, and partially a lack of trust.

It is an expression that you choose in association with your definition of flushed, which is a protection. It is an expression of embarrassment, which once again, if you are allowing yourself to investigate further, is an expression of exposure, uncomfortableness in allowing yourself an exposure, a lack of trust of your ability to be allowing yourself exposure and openness and that you may genuinely generate your own freedom of expression.

I may express to you also, this particular subject matter is incorporated quite en masse within many of your societies in your physical dimension, in which the fear is not genuinely that you shall be exposing of yourself and generating a lack of acceptance of another individual or concerning yourself with the perception of another individual or what another individual may want or their choices, but much more so is an expression of non-allowance of yourself to be genuinely freely expressing you and trusting that your expression is acceptable and that there are no rules. It is merely your allowance of yourself to freely express yourself in whichever manner you choose in association with the manipulation of your body.

SCOTT: So, for example, for this, I have the impression that if I didnít worry about it at all and went out and freely had sex and whatever, it would go away. But thatís something I really donít have to do, I think.

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: I donít want to have to do that. I enjoy just being with my one partner, and thatís enough for me. Somehow Iím still creating this expectation that I should be out doing that, where I really donít want to be.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but this is also in association with your partner presently, for you do not allow yourself entirely the freedom to express yourself in association with your partner, either.

SCOTT: Thatís true. Offering myself permission, which I often donít do.

ELIAS: Correct, for you concern yourself once again, in like manner to your mathematics, whether you are generating correctly or not, whether you are producing the correct action.

SCOTT: My partner is quite judgmental, I think, even more so than myself, and I recognize that and I just sort of accept that, but sometimes I canít help but let it affect me. But it does, and thatís okay, thatís fine, thatís how she sees things. It extends to sexuality as well. So whatís sort of the solution there, to do what I want, trust myself more?

ELIAS: Yes, and be accepting of yourself. Offer yourself permission to generate what you want but be paying attention to yourself, and in this, recognize your responsibility to yourself. For as you allow yourself that recognition, you shall automatically express it in association with another individual. In acceptance of yourself, the automatic by-product is acceptance of others.

In trusting your expression, in trusting yourself and not generating judgment in association with yourself, you shall also create a different expression in relation to the other individual, for it is your perception that is creating it. Therefore, as you express that your partner is expressing judgment, you are reflecting, and what are you expressing to yourself? For you generate the projection of the physical manifestation of your partner, therefore you also generate a reflection to yourself. Not necessarily in an identical mirror continuously, although at times you all generate quite clear mirror actions with each other.

SCOTT: The reflection is subject to the other person as well, right?

ELIAS: The reflection may be quite different in the expression of the other individual. What they may be generating within their perception may be expressed in relation to different aspects of beliefs or associations with themselves. But this is not your concern; your concern lies with what YOU create and with your reality.

SCOTT: And by doing that, just focus on creating your reality, the other person will tend to create theirs more, too, and there wouldnít be worry or lack of permission between the two?

ELIAS: Correct, for you are creating it, my friend. Therefore offering yourself permission to generate what you want and creating that, so you shall, even in relation to another individual.

SCOTT: Totally different subject, but a similarity of creating things, for example, getting pulled over for speeding tickets or something like that. Can you create that there are cops out there that are gonna catch you? Or can you create that if you are caught that you can get out of it?

ELIAS: Yes. You may generate ANY expression within your reality, quite literally. You may even choose to be experiencing an encounter with a police officer and generate their disappearance before your very eyes. (Chuckles) An expression of this shift in consciousness as you insert it into your objective reality, your officially accepted reality, is allowing yourselves to view that the impossible is not impossible.

SCOTT: So we can walk on water and we can fly free?

ELIAS: Quite.

SCOTT: How would something like that come about? If you express, ďOkay, I want to fly,Ē how would you do that? I donít see the path to take to move into that belief, accepting that belief.

ELIAS: How does an individual levitate? Offer explanation.

SCOTT: How does the chair stay on the ground? I guess itís the same thing.

ELIAS: Quite. You relax your attention, you trust, and you recognize that you incorporate beliefs and you offer yourself permission of choice regardless of your beliefs. This is the action of acceptance, and this is the offering to yourself of freedom.

SCOTT: Just like ďThe Matrix.Ē Thatís probably come up a few times. (Elias laughs)

Can I get orientation, family, alignment for other family members?

ELIAS: You may.

SCOTT: Starting with Andrew. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Sumari; orientation, common.

SCOTT: Number of focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Three hundred seventy-four.

SCOTT: And Amy?

ELIAS: And your impression?

SCOTT: Intermediate orientation.

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: Family, Sumafi?

ELIAS: Sumafi, correct.

SCOTT: I donít know the alignment. I really donít know the definitions well enough.

ELIAS: Alignment, Tumold.

SCOTT: And number of focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Five hundred fifty-five.

SCOTT: Is this something I could do on my own, too, if I could really...?

ELIAS: Yes. In offering yourself the opportunity to listen to your impressions, you may quite easily access this type of information.

SCOTT: Iíll try Emily. I think sheís the same family as my Aunt Dorothy, possibly Zuli.

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: On both accounts?


SCOTT: And orientation ... common?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: And alignment ... I donít know alignment.

ELIAS: Ilda.

SCOTT: Is she the same as my Aunt Dorothy in all three respects?

ELIAS: No. Alignment, Borledim.

SCOTT: Common?


SCOTT: How many focuses do Emily and my aunt have?

ELIAS: First individual, 86; second individual, 847.

SCOTT: And my little brother, who chose to disappear on us the other night?

ELIAS: Offer impression.

SCOTT: Out of all the three families, possibly Sumari would be my closest guess.

ELIAS: Sumari, you are correct.

SCOTT: Alignment ... I donít know the characteristics well enough.

ELIAS: Ilda.

SCOTT: Orientation, common?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: Can I get the parents of my girlfriend? Starting with Dave Ė Iíll start with guessing. (Elias chuckles) Family, Sumafi.

ELIAS: Sumafi, correct.

SCOTT: Sumari, is that an alignment as well?

ELIAS: Gramada.

SCOTT: Orientation, intermediate?


SCOTT: Soft?

ELIAS: Common.

SCOTT: The tendency toward soft from common would be to gradually be more introverted, isnít it? Commonís more open, intermediateís somewhat introverted, and soft is very?

ELIAS: Not necessarily in those terms.

Individuals that express the orientation of common project outwardly and generate a direction or a perception of incorporating the significance in outward manifestation, productivity, creating actual manifestations.

Individuals that incorporate the orientation of intermediate generate an attention in subjective, inward. These individuals are not necessarily what you term to be introverted. Many individuals that incorporate intermediate orientation are quite interactive and incorporate exposure. (Elias starts coughing)

SCOTT: Quickly, can you just say soft and then Iíll let Mary come back?

ELIAS: (Coughing) One moment.

SCOTT: Is that Mary trying to return? (10-second pause)

ELIAS: Soft individuals incorporate an awareness of subjective and objective simultaneously, not always in objective interpretation but there is a continuous movement and awareness of both. Therefore, they may or may not generate outward manifestations, but their attention and perception moves much more in association with interaction.

SCOTT: With other people?

ELIAS: With other individuals and with what you may term to be all of their reality, and especially in association with any expression of consciousness that you define as living.

SCOTT: Theyíre good animal trainers.

ELIAS: Perhaps.

SCOTT: Thatís my time there. Oh, wait, I didnít get Kim, sorry. Tumold, thatís the family?

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: Alignment (15-second pause), probably Milumet?

ELIAS: Correct!

SCOTT: And orientation, common.

ELIAS: Correct.

SCOTT: I should write these down while I remember. Iíve already forgotten.

ELIAS: Tumold.

SCOTT: Tumold, Milumet, common. And number of focuses? (Pause)

ELIAS: Four hundred thirty-nine.

SCOTT: And I didnít get number of focuses for Dave. (Pause)

ELIAS: One thousand two hundred fourteen.

SCOTT: Is there any way you can send a message to my girlfriend right now in this current stage so she thinks of me or something like that? As a joke.

ELIAS: And shall you not generate this? (Chuckles)

SCOTT: Fair enough, fair enough. Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. I anticipate our next meeting and our continued interaction, and I shall continue to project an encouraging and supportive energy to you.

SCOTT: Thank you.

ELIAS: In great affection, au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:38 PM.

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