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Sunday, February 10, 2002

<  Session 1004 (Private/Phone)  >

“Fear in Association with Past Experiences”

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ingrid (Allie).

Elias arrives at 2:10 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening!

INGRID: Good evening, Elias! How are you?

ELIAS: As always!

INGRID: (Laughing) It is always funny! So, how should we proceed?

ELIAS: This is your choice.

INGRID: A friend of mine, she was asking for my essence name and my family, alignment and orientation. I just wanted to be sure if this is really okay. So would you please tell me again?

ELIAS: You may be engaging this information through Michael, if you are so choosing. This has been offered and is unaltered.

INGRID: It is unaltered?

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: Can you please tell me my color?

ELIAS: And your impression?

INGRID: In the last ten years or so I was completely into yellow. But now, since maybe one or two years, I stay a little bit out of it and the tendency is more into green. But I really don’t know. It’s just a guessing.

ELIAS: Let me express to you first of all that a preference in relation to color is not necessarily an indication that this particular color is associated with a focus color or a signature color. Generally speaking, individuals are drawn to particular colors in preference in relation to the vibrational quality of those colors and how those particular vibrational qualities resonate with expressions of the individual in relation to their energy centers and a particular expression of energy that the individual may gravitate to.

In relation to your preference for an extended time framework concerning this color of yellow, this is not associated with a focus color or a signature color, but rather an association that you generate in relation to the vibrational quality of that particular color and its association with emotional communications. As to the association with the green, you generate this expression in relation to moving your attention more into a direction of self and in relation to the green energy center and the qualities that are expressed through this energy center, in relation also to healing in an inner manner, so to speak.

INGRID: Healing myself?

ELIAS: Yes. As to the expressions of color in association with essence, the quality of vibrational tone that is generated by your essence is a silver translation.

INGRID: Like mother of pearl, something like that?

ELIAS: Yes, but incorporating more of what you may term to be a metallic quality of color.

INGRID: What does this mean? Does it have a special quality, this silver? Is it in relation to a special quality, because sometimes I did hear you say in a session there are certain qualities associated. Is this a special quality expressing, or just in general?

ELIAS: Each color generates a specific vibrational quality which may resonate with the tone quality of the essence. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, it is a general expression.

INGRID: Elias, could you please tell me from which essence I did fragment, the name? (Pause)

ELIAS: Fragmentation has occurred in relation to the essences of Hond and Ali (ah LEE) and Benedict.

INGRID: Benedict?


INGRID: Benedict with D-I-C-T?


INGRID: Aha. Allie, isn’t that my essence name now?

ELIAS: Allie (AL lee).

INGRID: This is my essence name now.

ELIAS: Yes, but this is not the same essence.

INGRID: Because you know why I am asking this, I have always this presence with me. You already did speak about it the last time, but I forgot everything and I did not have the tape yet. What I was wondering, is this a part of Allie essence or is this a part of one essence I am fragmenting long, long ago? Could you please tell me a little bit about this? Is it a personality, or what it is in general?

ELIAS: This is an energy expression of your essence.

INGRID: Of Allie essence?


INGRID: Last time you told me I have four focuses in this timeframe. Is this including me or is this without me?

ELIAS: Yourself included.

INGRID: Do any of my focuses in this timeframe have something to do with car selling or so? Because I had an imagination about this.

ELIAS: Not within this timeframe work, but yes, you do incorporate another focus of essence within another time framework.

INGRID: And he was dealing with cars and so?


INGRID: Can you tell me in which country this was?

ELIAS: Past focus within northern America.

INGRID: Northern America – so I will see. Can you please tell me how many focuses I have all together in this dimension?

ELIAS: And your impression?

INGRID: (Laughing) I don’t know. I really could only guess, because to be honest I have not much information about these things yet. I heard from my friend and I was reading in the sessions that some people had more ideas. I got a few names what I would like to ask you about afterwards. But I don’t know how many focuses I have. I really don’t know.

ELIAS: Very well, I may express to you 213.

INGRID: This is not so much, is it, compared with what I was reading.

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: Do we have a focus together, Elias, in another time framework?


INGRID: Because I had a dream some weeks ago... Actually it was just a short flash; it was not really a dream. It was a short flash and I did see two gentlemen dressed in completely black, very elegant, but nothing else. It was just this short flash and somehow I had the impression this could have been you and me. But I don’t know if this was just an imagination or if this is really true.

ELIAS: In actuality, the two individuals that you have presented to yourself within your imagery are focuses of myself and another essence, Holden. You are participating in that focus but are not either of these individuals.

INGRID: Then I have some imaginations of certain names I wanted to ask you. One was Josephine. I wanted to know if this could be one of my focuses. Should I tell you all the names right away or one after the other?

ELIAS: We may address to them individually. Yes, you are correct in this first identification. And what is your impression concerning this individual?

INGRID: I don’t know. I was lying there and suddenly some voice was speaking through me and said these names. Actually very often when I lie down and I relax, some voices are speaking through me and then they mentioned this name. I don’t know anything about it; I just heard this name. I did not go yet into these kinds of details, because I don’t know how to do this.

ELIAS: Very well, and perhaps you may choose to be investigating. Subsequent to our discussion, you may allow yourself to be exploring and discovering more information concerning these individuals.

INGRID: How do I do this? I just desire for it, or how do I do this?

ELIAS: Focus your attention in relaxation as you have, but allow your attention to drift from this focus presently. In this you may allow yourself to generate visualizations through a type of meditation, and in that relaxation merely allow the images to present themselves and allow yourself not to discount them. In this action you shall allow yourself a movement in exploring other focuses and offering yourself more information concerning them.

INGRID: Is it a slight trance, because sometimes I feel when I have these voices speaking through me that I fall into a very light trance. Is it this kind of state?

ELIAS: You may engage this type of state or you may be engaging more of an objective action if you are so choosing. It matters not. It is dependent upon your choice and what you engage in a state of relaxation that may be comfortable with you.

INGRID: And then another name was Christina. This was mentioned already four years ago when I started to try to channel. There was one being that was speaking through me and it always called me this name, Christina. In the beginning it was somehow pleasant, but later on it became very, very unpleasant.

ELIAS: Yes, this is another focus.

INGRID: This is also another focus. Not a very nice one?

ELIAS: I may express to you that this in actuality is a relative statement in relation to your beliefs in this focus.

INGRID: (Laughing) Yes, this is right. Another name was Chitula or Chita. (Pause)

ELIAS: First translation is correct.

INGRID: It is also a focus?


INGRID: And there was one, Simon, as a male?


INGRID: Then there was another one, Tashila.

ELIAS: No. This is an individual associated in the same time framework and interactive with the previous focus.

INGRID: Aha, but not a focus of myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: Then I heard another name, it is Alexander Hrdlacek. Is he also a focus of mine? I had the feeling it is from the timeframe now. Can that be?

ELIAS: This actually, I may express to you, is a fragmented focus.

INGRID: From me?

ELIAS: Yes. Therefore, within your association it may be expressed that this has been a focus of your essence but is no longer, for it now generates its own essence.

INGRID: It has its own essence?

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: I had an imagination seeing a blond little boy, about ten years old. Can you tell me what this was? I had just a vision of this blond little boy, about ten years old.

ELIAS: And this also is another focus of your essence.

INGRID: But another timeframe?


INGRID: Could you please tell me what my intent is in this focus?

ELIAS: And this is what YOU are to be investigating!

INGRID: (Laughing) I tried. I tried so long and somehow I figured out as I am aligned with Ilda that I should be in different countries and exploring the world, and I did, actually. I always wanted to get out of Germany since I am grown up.

But I am not completely sure what “intent” in general means. Can it be that it is also something, some qualities that I have to develop, like for example self-worth or not feeling as a victim? Could this be also intent or not? Because these things, I really work on that.

ELIAS: I am understanding, although the designation of your intent is an individual exploration of each focus of attention. Therefore the manner in which you explore your physical reality is an expression of your intent. But the identification of an individual’s intent is the theme that is expressed throughout the entirety of the focus. This may be generated by an individual in a myriad of manners, but it is the general direction and theme of your individual exploration of this manifestation.

INGRID: If I think what it could be... Because, you see, I have been living a very recluse and spiritual life for more than 20 years until 4 years ago, and then my life changed completely. It went completely into another direction, so that I have the feeling now I have to live now more in the material world. I have to get intimate with the material world. Spirituality, what I was understanding, the life I was living was just a part of it, of spirituality. But what I live now, exploring the material world, is also a part of spirituality.

ELIAS: You are correct.

INGRID: So somehow, could my intent be discovering the spirituality or something like that? (Laughing)

ELIAS: Partially, yes. These are avenues in which you are generating your exploration within this particular focus. But it is not limited to the identification, so to speak, of spirituality but in expression of the fullness of you as an individual in relation to the beliefs concerning spirituality and the expression of spirituality.

INGRID: Because it is something what really fascinates me. Recently I read one of your sessions and you explained what spirituality really is, and this is what really fascinates me, what I think, what I am doing and what I am supposed to do. Even sometime someone told me that I also would be a good teacher. I was also a teacher of meditation, but I did not practice a lot in this profession and I am not doing it anymore. So, I don’t know. Could it be also in this direction?

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, these are all merely choices. There is no “supposed to.” There is no absolute direction. It is a general choice of direction concerning exploration of different expressions and aspects that you may generate within this physical dimension in relation to an exploration of yourself as consciousness, for this is the action that ALL essences are engaging within any physical manifestation.

Now; each focus of attention chooses a particular direction, and this is expressed as a theme of their exploration, the theme of their experiences throughout the entirety of their focus, which as you may be aware is generated from the onset of your manifestation. It is exhibited throughout the entirety of your focus. But in that journey, so to speak, of exploration of a particular general direction, each focus of attention chooses specific experiences and specific types of movement that shall be in alignment with that general exploration.

You engage your creativity to be generating diverse expressions of that particular exploration, which you also have engaged throughout the entirety of your focus – even what you term to be as a child, in which you incorporate beliefs that children are not necessarily directing of themselves, which is quite incorrect. But in relation to your beliefs, as a child you have also engaged experiences and explorations concerning beliefs that are generated in relation to spirituality and experiences that may be explored in relation to those beliefs.

INGRID: So I don’t understand what you really said in regard to my intent. It’s more exploration of spirituality? Is this the theme?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, but more specifically in relation to beliefs concerning spirituality and experiences that may be generated in relation to those beliefs.

INGRID: Aha, in regard to belief structures?

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: And that means it’s actually a basic theme in my life to notice belief structures and to be accepting them?


INGRID: This is one main purpose, one of my important themes in this life?

ELIAS: For you are participating in this shift in consciousness.

INGRID: (Laughs) So everyone has this kind of theme?

ELIAS: As to acceptance of beliefs, yes; as to your individual intent, you are exploring experiences in relation to the expressions of beliefs concerning spirituality, which also incorporates much of an exploration of religious beliefs in association with spirituality.

INGRID: Is this also because I am a final focus? Has this something to do with this also?


INGRID: It is something completely just on this focus? It has nothing to do with the final focus?

ELIAS: Yes, correct.

INGRID: Let me see... I have another point where I always experience some conflict, Elias, actually also in regard to you. Always, from time to time, there comes up some fear in me. I have been with my Master before and also with these books from Kryon, and I have been taking all this knowledge as a kind of absolute. It always comes up again that I am afraid if I go too much into all these sessions and too much into this knowledge that this is going to happen again. I don’t know exactly how I should deal with this.

ELIAS: By recognizing that this is a familiar expression that you generate and also recognizing that there are no absolutes and that you incorporate choice, therefore not becoming a victim to your own expressions.

INGRID: This is a thing that always comes up again. Also, in regard to this presence I have, I seem to do a kind of hamster-wheeling since four years with this theme and just not coming out of that.

And I don’t know, you said that emotions are always only a matter of a signal from the subjective to communicate with you, and in this last four years I experienced lots and lots of painful emotions. Before I was always thinking this is a kind of memory, it is a kind of reaction to something before. Now since I had the first session with you and since I read your sessions, I see it differently and I try to listen to myself what message comes.

But somehow I cannot find anything – I just don’t know how to deal with this. Maybe I strain or maybe I put myself under pressure, I don’ know. I am still not able to understand why I have so many painful emotions coming up.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend, we shall explore this expression. You generate these emotional signals to offer yourself a communication concerning what you are actually generating in the moment, not necessarily what you have generated in the past or what you anticipate in the future, but what you are actually generating in the moment, what associations are influencing of your expression in the moment.

Now; in this emotional communication, you are identifying to yourself a recognition that you are expressing fear.

Now; the influence which is being expressed by beliefs is partially associated with past experiences and how you perceive past experiences as absolutes.

INGRID: You mean it could be the experiences I had about four years ago? I was opening myself so much to the nonphysical world and I was somehow... You are right, it could have been this in regard to this belief structure. I was conceiving them as kind of higher than me, more evolved, and then I got threatened, and I got laughed about. It was an awful time for me, and I never got completely over this experience, so this memory comes up and up again.

I am not completely sure if it is right to go into this memory every time, or just put it aside and go ahead and not think of it anymore.

ELIAS: It is not entirely concerning the memory, my friend, for you generate this expression of emotion to signal yourself and to offer yourself information concerning what you are generating NOW.

There is an association with past experiences and memory and the absoluteness that you view in relation to those experiences, but you generate the emotion NOW for you continue to express fear in this now concerning these types of movements and experiences, and this has generated a present fear which in some manners constricts your movement now. As the fear is expressed, there is a reluctancy to explore, for you move into the absoluteness of the associations of past experiences and not recognizing that you are continuing in THIS now to generate those fears.

INGRID: Because when I sometimes hear these voices or these voices speak through me, what they speak seems to me not a kind of valid information. I don’t know, maybe I am judging in that. Maybe I am not right. Maybe it is valid and I just cannot recognize it. Somehow it seems to me... I don’t know how to say this. Like in a theater, it’s kind of, I don’t know, like a drama and it’s kind of not very good quality. (Laughing)

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this is occurring for you are generating a force of energy in opposition to the allowance of information, and therefore you create distortions.

INGRID: It means I don’t allow it because I have some fear? You mean that?

ELIAS: Yes. As you allow yourself to relax and to accept the energy that you yourself are generating, you shall also dissipate the fear, and this action of dissipating the fear shall allow more clarity in what you are expressing within your own energy. Your communication to yourself in this type of avenue, my friend, is no less valid than any information that you may draw to yourself in expressions of other individuals or essences that you view to be masters.

What you are generating now is a discounting of yourself, and this is what generates the fear and this is what creates this emotional communication, to allow you an identification of what you are individually generating and creating in the moment inwardly. You express this through these emotional communications to offer to yourself an identification of what you are creating objectively, that you may objectively recognize what you are actually doing. (1) In this, as you generate this fear, this is an expression of discounting yourself and viewing yourself as less than.

INGRID: And this is right. It is already better than it was in the past; it was terrible in the past. But now I feel, at least I think I did make some progress, but it is still not gone.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and as you turn your attention more to yourself and pay attention in the moment to your communications to yourself and recognize that you do incorporate choice and acknowledge your worth to yourself, you shall also allow yourself more of an openness in your exploration of information that you draw to yourself from other avenues, in addition to yourself.

INGRID: In the morning, before I wake up or shortly after I wake up, very often I hear some conversations where I am not completely sure if I am involved or what it actually is. Sometimes I feel there is some kind of valid information in these conversations, and I don’t know exactly what it is.

ELIAS: Yes, and you are correct. But you are also, as I have stated, generating this force of energy which, in a manner of speaking, distorts and blocks the transmission, so to speak, of information, for the fear overrides the allowance of the energy flow.

INGRID: Somehow on a deep level I know nothing can happen to me, you see, and still, I don’t know, this thing comes up again and again. So, what would be the next step really to do on a practical level?

ELIAS: Allow yourself, my friend, to be acknowledging of yourself, to pay attention to you and to trust your expressions. In this, as you incorporate tension, you perpetuate the fear. Therefore as you incorporate relaxation, you may practice trust.

INGRID: Ja. You see, there is another point I wanted to ask you. I have been meditating for 25 years very many hours per day. Now, since I am out of this group, in the beginning I still was meditating on a regular basis quite 1 1/2 hours in the morning and about 1 1/2 hours in the evening; but now, since about three years, it is a very interesting experience I have. Sometimes I have the feeling I want to meditate, I want to go back to myself, and after a very, very short period of time, just a few minutes, I feel as if something is pushing outside, my eyes are opening, and somehow I have the feeling the context or the theme of this thing is “the self is everywhere.” Somehow I have, for example, the experience when I open the eyes that everything what was looking at me was somehow myself, as if it wanted to say there is no need to go back to the self inside in the way I did it before. The self is also outside.

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: This is my impression I have, but maybe you can comment on that.

ELIAS: You are correct. You are expressing to yourself in objective imagery quite physically, and what you are expressing to yourself is to open your eyes [and] in this to recognize that all that is within your physical dimension that is perceived by you and experienced by you is generated by you also.

INGRID: I have another question. Could you please tell me the essence name, family, alignment and orientation of my family? First of all my mother, please? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Bonita, B-O-N-I-T-A (bow NEE tah).

INGRID: Yes, thank you. The family I figured out, one of them could be Borledim?

ELIAS: Sumari; alignment, Borledim.

INGRID: And the orientation, please?

ELIAS: Common.

INGRID: Then my sister, please? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name Odile, O-D-I-L-E (oh DEEL).

INGRID: Essence families, I was thinking maybe Sumari/Zuli?

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: And the orientation?

ELIAS: Common.

INGRID: And my niece, what essence name does she have? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Briggi, B-R-I-G-G-I (BREE ghee).

INGRID: The family I was thinking maybe something with Ilda and Vold, or the other way around?

ELIAS: Reverse, yes.

INGRID: Vold/Ilda?

ELIAS: Correct.

INGRID: And the orientation?

ELIAS: Common.

INGRID: I have a friend, her name is Anette, and she wanted to know her essence name, family and alignment and also the orientation.

ELIAS: Essence name Umbre, U-M-B-R-E (OOM bray).

INGRID: And essence family, one is Tumold, because I think she is a healer. But the alignment I don’t know.

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Tumold.

INGRID: And the orientation?

ELIAS: Orientation, common.

INGRID: She has the feeling that she is a final focus. Is this right?


INGRID: And also that she is in transition?


INGRID: She asked me to ask a question for her, for she has very often terrible panic attacks which are coming together with heart problems, and she does not know where this is coming from. What could she do in this direction? Could you please comment on that?

ELIAS: You may extend my invitation to this individual to be engaging conversation with myself and addressing to this situation.

INGRID: She does not speak English and she does not live in this place where I live. There is also another thing which she... How should I put this? There is also a presence with her for many years, somehow a little bit similar to what I experience but still a little bit different. She was working also as a medium, and this being was speaking through her and giving all kinds of information; but now she is not working as a medium anymore. But she has these terrible problems and she told me a few days ago if I could ask you.

ELIAS: I am understanding. I may express to you briefly that this expression that is being manifest physically is quite in association with her beliefs concerning this action of what you term to be channeling. In this, there is a fear which is being generated concerning the rightness or the wrongness of the expression and concerning beliefs in association with whether this type of action is what you may term to be good or bad, for there is an association of protection that this individual incorporates in relation to a belief concerning less than good spirits.

INGRID: Yes, that’s exactly what it is. She said to me that she always feels that there is something in the spiritual world that wants to do something to her or something like that.

ELIAS: Which is incorrect. This is an incorrect association, for essences are not intrusive and therefore...

INGRID: Yes, I told her that. And you think that this is the reason for the panic attacks?


INGRID: I will tell her. We went through very difficult times together, and I was not channeling anymore after I had these bad experiences. I never tried that again, and it brings me to another question I wanted to ask you. These memories I have in regard to this channeling, does this come from another focus where I was involved in this thing, as a kind of bleed-through?

ELIAS: No, this is quite in association with the experiences that you have generated in this focus.

INGRID: In this focus?


INGRID: And it has nothing to do with other focuses?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, correct.

INGRID: And then I have another question which is very mundane. I sent the money to Mary for my session and it got lost in the mail. Why did I create this?

ELIAS: This actually you have created in association with what we have been discussing, in association with fear and discounting of yourself, a de-valuing of yourself.

INGRID: There I know what to do. Let me see what else I have here on my list.

I had a dream a little while ago, where I was on a stage and there was a team of actors. I wanted to play with them also, but there was one of the leading members which did not agree that I am going to play with them. So it made me very upset but I could not do anything against it.

A little while later, the same night, I had a dream that there came a man who wanted to kind of take over a job in regard to birds, like canary birds – I don’t know if it it’s canary birds – but he wanted to take over this job which somebody else had before. Finally he made it and he could take over this job with the birds. One of these birds I was seeing did wear a very bright blue ribbon. Somehow I had the feeling that there could be a connection to you because of this very bright blue ribbon the bird was wearing.

Could it be that the first dream was the time I was with my Master before and I had to leave this group? I was not allowed to stay there anymore because of my experiences and my decisions, and then I came to you and I am working with the help of you on all these belief structures. Is that what it meant?

ELIAS: Partially, yes, you are correct in one layer. I may also express to you that you are generating this imagery concerning directing yourself and not allowing other individuals’ expressions to dictate to you, but allowing yourself choice and the freedom to direct yourself in trusting yourself.

INGRID: Yes, because after I left the group, for quite a while I could not read any spiritual books anymore. Somehow I completely stepped away from these things because I had the feeling I want to have the answers I have from my own inner.


INGRID: Some of them I got but there are still quite some left which I did not get yet! (Laughing) And here I am landing now with you, you see. The day after the first session I had with you I did not feel very well because this conflict came up again that I maybe take everything as an absolute or so. In the first session you told me that the time with my Master, and also in regard to the books of Kryon, I should consider it as a kind of stepping-stone. Then I was speaking to you silently and I said, “Okay, Elias, if you agree that you will be a stepping-stone too, than I can accept all the knowledge you give us.” And somehow I could feel a great relaxation and a great playfulness and a great ease, and I had the feeling you did accept that.

ELIAS: Yes. For in a manner of speaking you are correct. I am interactive with you merely to be encouraging of you to seek yourself, not to be viewed as a master and not to be interacted with in any capacity other than equal to yourself. For, there is no division within consciousness. There are no levels; there are no higher or lower expressions. Therefore my offering of information to you is expressed merely in encouragement to you to be turning your attention to yourself and allowing yourself the freedom to trust and accept yourself, knowing that you are widening your objective awareness within this physical expression and you are moving into a state of being of remembrance – not of memory. But in this, you allow yourself to express the awareness of self as essence.

INGRID: What I love so much when I read your sessions, always you take the people back to their self, you see, the way you deal with the people and the way you always take them back to themselves. That is what I appreciate actually most of all of the things.

ELIAS: This is the point, my friend, not for myself to be dictating to you or any other expression to dictate to you, but merely to be offering you information that you may assimilate and incorporate perhaps as a tool to turn your attention to yourself or to re-familiarize yourself with you, for this is the most significant action.

INGRID: Yes, yes, and I thank you for that.

ELIAS: And you are quite welcome, my friend.

INGRID: I had another question. It was about four years ago I had a dream and I have been told that my name is Eramani. At that time I was reading a book and it said that every being has a kind of cosmic name, and I had my attention a little bit on this theme. So I have been told that this is my name, and a few weeks later I had a kind of mergence with a very blissful energy, at least I experienced it like that, and when I asked it what its name is, it said to me its name is Eramano.

I never knew exactly what it was, what happened. Could it be that it was this energy which is now with me, that there was a kind of mergence, or was it something else?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is an offering to yourself in terms of objective association and understanding in which you attach names to specific expressions of energy to allow you to familiarize yourself with these expressions of energy individually, prior to your assimilation that these energies are you also. You are just expressing to yourself an identification of different types of energies that you express that are slightly unfamiliar to you, for you do not recognize them objectively. But nonetheless they are aspects of yourself.

Many times individuals may generate associations with specific energy expressions that they incorporate but are unfamiliar to them, and initially create a separation of those energies, attaching to them a different identification as though those energies were other entities, for this allows the individual less threat in relation to their objective identity.

INGRID: This energy seemed to me quite familiar. Somehow it was familiar to me. I asked it, “Where have you been so long?” I had the feeling that was away from me and then came back.

ELIAS: Correct; I am understanding. But within objective experience the reason that you express to this energy the inquiry “where have you been” is that you have not been experiencing objectively that energy expression. Therefore in your terms, figuratively speaking, in reintroducing yourself to certain energy expressions of yourself, you temporarily separate them to not generate a threat to your objective identity. Subsequently you may view and experience these energy expressions and recognize that this type of separation is unnecessary, for these are expressions of you.

INGRID: Yes, and the hour is over. Can I ask one short question before we leave?

ELIAS: Very well.

INGRID: I had an experience that I was walking in the street and suddenly I had the feeling that something else was looking through my eyes. It was something very... I can only say something holy, something really nice and pleasant and beautiful. Could it have been my essence? Or what was that?


INGRID: It was a very nice experience.

ELIAS: This also is another validation that you are offering to yourself to be addressing to the expressions of fear, for this offers you evidence that there is no intrusiveness and no hurtfulness that is expressed as essence.

INGRID: Yes, yes. Thank you very much. I think we have to close because the hour is over. It always goes much too fast, because I still could not ask all my questions. (Laughs with Elias) So I thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are welcome, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting. To you in tremendous encouragement and in great affection, my friend, au revoir.

INGRID: Thank you very much! Goodbye.

Elias departs at 3:18 PM.


(1) Originally expressed as: “You express this through these emotional communications to offer an identification of what you are creating objectively to yourself that you may objectively recognize what you are actually doing.”

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