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Wednesday, April 03, 1996

<  Session 83 (Group/Castaic)  >

“Cold and Flu”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), and a new participant, Jene (Rudim; nickname, Rudy).

Elias arrives at 7:19 PM.

ELIAS: Good evening! (Smiling at Jene) Welcome!

JENE: Thank you.

ELIAS: This evening, we shall begin to incorporate our focus upon your mass consciousness and events, to which I have promised. It is seeming to be appropriate presently in light of recent events, and individuals incorporating many illnesses. I will express to you, as I have previously, that there is a mass consciousness which incorporates these actions. You have asked me why an individual chooses to manifest an illness. I will explain that each individual incorporates their own choices and reasoning for their individual manifestation, although they also tap into a collective agreement, within consciousness, to manifest such actions. This is more far-reaching than you necessarily perceive. You have created, within physical focus, mass movements for mass benefits. Therefore, all benefit by your incorporation of an illness. Not only do you benefit; which you do. I will explain; (to Vicki, grinning) for you do not manifest anything if you do not receive a pay-off; but also, many individuals benefit.

You incorporate belief systems of scientific elements and religious elements which, collectively, you agree upon and accept into your reality. In this, it is entered into your collective area of Regional Area 2. You may manifest symptoms identical with each other, for you may manifest identical anything if you are choosing, for you are all connected within a collective consciousness. This consciousness area is not the same as what I have expressed to you of regional area three. We will not discuss this as of yet. I will express to you, within your religious belief systems, you view this physical manifestation of a body as a “vessel.” (Smiling) You are taught and accept that this physical expression is defective.

VICKI: May I interrupt for one moment?

ELIAS: You may.

VICKI: I’ll be right back.(Vicki leaves the room for a moment, to ask the kids in the other room to be quiet)

ELIAS: Michael will be expressing of this! Not quite secure as of yet! (Mary experiences an uncomfortableness within her consciousness when Vicki leaves the room; she returns momentarily)

ELIAS: Your religions express that the body is inefficient. It is a physical vessel. It is disposable. It is a house for your soul, so to speak. It is also very susceptible to objective influences, not only from your own subjective creations, but objectively you are affected by influences of spirits, or demons, or god, or even the sins of your parents! Therefore, you are taught to be distrusting of this physical manifestation.

Your scientific belief systems offer you little balance to this distrust and duplicity, for your scientists believe that although your physical manifestation is a magnificent machine, it alone incorporates no consciousness, and also is quite susceptible to outside influences; therefore creating your “extra seasons,” which we have discussed previously. Within certain natural seasons, you also incorporate flu season, and cold season, and allergy season. You have been spared ... maybe ... your summer, which has not yet adopted its own infectious season, although you may be susceptible to all of your other seasons within your summertime! (Grinning)

These belief systems, as I have stated, are beneficial, this being why you incorporate them. They are beneficial in reinforcing belief systems within your religious element. They are beneficial to your scientific community, for they generate revenue. Not only do your physicians benefit, but many ordinary common individuals benefit also. Without your manifestations of affectingness of physical manifestation, you would withhold your revenue from your grocers, who incorporate healthful, nutritious food substance that you are needing of when you are not “feeling well.” Your pharmaceutical companies, which are made up of individuals, benefit, and jobs are generated. Your garment industry benefits, for you would not be needing to incorporate galoshes if you were not worrying of your feet being wet! Many, many individuals benefit. You, within this time period, more so than many other time periods, focus upon capitol gain within this particular country. In this, it is profitable to be incorporating illness.

Your benefit is more subtle. You choose for your own reasons whether to enter into this collective agreement, and whether to align yourself for your own reasons. You may feel, in what you term to be subconscious, although you are aware, (smiling) that you are needing of a vacation from your employment, but you are not afforded this time. Therefore, you will create a cold, or an illness more serious, and incorporate restfulness. You may be angry or agitated with individuals that you incorporate on a daily basis, and feel a need to be removing yourself from these individuals; therefore you do!

You may choose to manifest these elements for you feel that you are in need of nurturing. Not enough attention has been afforded you. Therefore, you will incorporate an action which will focus other individual’s attention upon you. You may choose to be recognizing that you are not paying attention to yourself. Therefore, you will gain your own attention by incorporating an action which insists on your attention to yourself. If you are feeling quite achy, you will pay attention! Therefore, you receive a pay-off also. Some individual incorporate other reasons, so to speak more “lofty,” (chuckling) as was Michael’s expression; a little dramatic!

Each individual will create the expression for their own reasons, but they also choose to flow into the energy of collective consciousness. You incorporate an alignment and involvement with collective consciousness more than you choose to be recognizing of. Many individuals within our small group choose to view themselves as “different”; not aligned with the mainstream of society; being the rebels. You are not quite so rebellious! (Grinning) You incorporate many elements of your focus which are in alignment with the collective consciousness, which is not what you would perceive to be a negative element, for you manifest all things for a reason, and you manifest elements for your noticing and your benefit.

Many times, it is easier for you to incorporate certain actions by flowing along with the collective conscious wave. It does not require quite so much energy. Michael may have chosen to be experiencing the same elements that he has experienced this week previous, but he would have been incorporating only his own energy and movement alone, so to speak. It is easier to move along a wave of energy, which is helpful to be “carrying” you. Therefore, you may incorporate actions much the same as other individuals, to be accomplishing of your own choices. (Grinning at Vicki) Yes, Lawrence?

VICKI: Wouldn’t it be easier to just not incorporate it at all?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) But be thinking of all these unfortunate souls, which would be not benefiting from all of this employment without your helpfulness! You have created these expressions! They are your creations, and quite imaginative! (Grinning)

As I have expressed previously, this is not always the case. We are speaking generally, and of this time period recently, although this phenomenon has been incorporated throughout your history for this same reason; but I have expressed also to you previously that within consciousness collectively, you may also choose to manifest certain epidemics of certain illnesses to be creating a statement en masse, for the mass population and society’s noticing. There are different reasons within different times. Flu’s are not a mass statement for political reasons!

VICKI: If you are the sort of individual that doesn’t incorporate pharmaceuticals or other such things when you incorporate these illnesses, then wherein lies your agreement within the mass consciousness?

ELIAS: Ah! But Lawrence incorporates a cold, and does he not also incorporate many “truths?” (Referring to tissues, and Ron cracks up)

VICKI: This is correct! It just seems a little too simple.

ELIAS: Not all of the universe and the “great cosmos” is so very, very complicated ... although it is! (Grinning, and we all laugh)

VICKI: Well, that being the case then, I would think that one should have a little more control over when they wish these things to end.

ELIAS: And you do! (Smiling) I will express to you that you do not acknowledge yourselves. You do acknowledge your creation, and how beautifully you have created it, and how irritated ... (looks at Ron)

RON: Twenty-five cents! (Laughter)

ELIAS: ... you may be at your creation, and you will focus and concentrate on this, and perpetuate it! You do not focus upon your accomplishment within natural elements. Lawrence creates a cold, and uncreates this illness within a few days. You do not view the accomplishment of uncreating it within a few days! You express to yourself anger that you do not uncreate it within one hour, (laughter) although you have created it for a reason to begin with! Michael, moving through the door and viewing the visualization, uncreated the illness within hours! Therefore, you do incorporate control. As I have expressed previously, you need only be acknowledging of your natural self. Each moment that you are not incorporating your “truths” from your “truth’s box,” you may express to yourself an acknowledgment, but you do not! Each moment that you pull one, you perpetuate the situation, for you concentrate upon it.

Many times also, you concentrate upon a creation for you are attempting to express something to yourself, and you continue until you have understood what you are expressing to yourself. You may not always be what you view to be consciously aware of your answer, but when you have accomplished what you have set out to be accomplishing of, it will be unnecessary to be continuing, for you have received your pay-off. When you are vacillating within confusion, you continue. Sometimes, you continue out of sheer stubbornness! You may perpetuate an action knowing you are perpetuating an action. You may express verbally, “I wish to end this,” and within, you may be very consciously aware that you are not sure you wish to end this! It may not be so bad. (Smiling, and a pause) And you ask of Sophia?

VICKI: Yeah. (He’s reading my mind again!)

ELIAS: You may understand this situation yourselves. View Sophia. She experiences much confusion, much conflict. Her consciousness wavers back and forth. She duplicates this within physical manifestation. She now incorporates an extreme. We shall duplicate within employment, back and forth; within relationships with individuals, back and forth. She has exhausted herself! Therefore, she incorporates a choice to ride the wave. It is easy, and it allows many pay-offs. She may rest. She may incorporate attention, helpfulness, nurturing, supportiveness; elements that she is feeling that she is lacking; and she may unincorporate responsibility.

VICKI: Yeah, that makes sense. (Pause)

ELIAS: Elizabeth incorporates similar action. She wishes to rest. She also wishes solitude. Other individuals connected to Elizabeth within this physical focus will be choosing to be removing if she is infectious, for within their belief systems, they may become infected also. Therefore, she allows herself solitude; noticing though, and you may inquire, that our “Little Rose” is unaffected by Elizabeth’s incorporation of illness. Belief systems are quite interesting! They are quite real, but only to you! (Long pause, smiling)

RON: I’m gonna ask my question.

ELIAS: I shall incorporate a brief break, and then you may ask your question ... although you may not understand my answer! (Laughter)

RON: It’s okay. I don’t even understand the question!

ELIAS: And we shall incorporate our game, if you are wishing.

BREAK 7:55 PM.
RESUME 8:53 PM.

ELIAS: We continue. (To Ron) You may ask your question.

RON: Okay, if I can. We were talking at the last session about Michael’s illness, the possibility of Michael walking through the door and ending his physical focus. What I was wondering is, if an essence chooses to end physical focus, what happens to all the other focuses that are going on at the same time, the ones that have not established their own essence, that have not fragmented?

ELIAS: A difficult subject matter. It is difficult to explain sufficiently to you, within your limitations of understanding, this process. I will attempt to give you an explanation, that you may partially understand, with little distortion.

It is dependent upon the desire of the individual focus. Each manifestation is a focus. Some incorporate a type of consciousness that aligns with what you recognize as your personal individual vibrational tone. Other elements of your essence incorporate other vibrational tones. They are all incorporated within your individual essence, but some align with the vibrational tone that you, within this physical manifestation, identify with and recognize. I have expressed that you incorporate many facets, many splinters, many counterparts. It is very complicated, in your terms, to be expressing of the differences of tones.

I will express an analogy that you may identify with, within musical tones. Some notes harmonize and compliment each other. To your perception of sound, they seem to fit and belong together. Others seem to be “off,” and do not seem to blend as well with certain musical notes. They all are musical tones. They all incorporate the same quality, but some “move off” within their vibrational waves, so to speak.

Of the tones that identify with each other within your facets, they ... I will use a term for lack presently of a better term ... absorb to each other. I will amend this term within your future time, but for this present, you may understand this concept, quite simplified! Therefore, some facets will unincorporate physical focus simultaneously to your choice of non-remanifestation. Be remembering, this is a choice of essence, not of one individual focus. Therefore, the whole of essence moves, within energy.

Within non-remanifestation, you move into an area of consciousness of non-physical focus. As you incorporate the element within perception of time, it is not possible for me to express to you how you may simultaneously manifest splinters or alternate selves or counterparts within physical focus if you are not physically manifesting. I will express the concept that once the movement has been initiated into non-physical focus, all facets return to non-physical. The elements of essence still incorporated within what you view to be physical focus become as “ghost aspects.” The choice is presented for fragmentation. It may not be acted upon initially, but the choice is available. Your essence, removing its focus from physical to non-physical, removes its energy physically from those aspects remaining physical. Therefore, they become ghost aspects. If you are incorporating a study of your physical sciences of physics, you will learn of ghost particles. In this, your essence creates a very similar action.

This is not to say that individuals physically manifest “poof away,” for they do not; but your individual personality type within essence, your vibrational tone, will be removed. Therefore, you will still interact with these aspects of essence; but you, as essence, will not be physically manifest.

Think now to my illustration of Seven, who may interact with physical focuses and also incorporate his consciousness into these aspects of essence, becoming each aspect at any given point, if so desiring; but not being actively them. Within non-physical focus, as I have expressed, connections are very great, just as within physical focus you incorporate great connections with other individuals beyond your physical expressions. You are recognizing of connections within consciousness; your “soulmates,” as you term them to be. In this, it is a mirror image, physically, of non-physical connections. All that you manifest within physical focus is a mirroring of what you already know and incorporate within essence. It is merely another expression of experience.

Therefore, you question a “vested interest!” (Smiling) I have expressed deep, enduring connection to this essence. There is great affection, in what you term to be affection. These are all very limiting terms, for they must be incorporated within your language that you understand. Within non-physical focus, the expression of essence is far beyond your physical imagination.

I am understanding this is an insufficient answer to this question, but at your present understanding, it is sufficient, for you would not understand my explanation to you. I may express concepts that your physicists do not understand themselves, but view partially, or so they believe they view, but you would not understand this either. Therefore, I offer the most efficient answer presently, which creates many questions! (Grinning, and we all laugh) As you have realized already, as your understanding grows, and you incorporate more information and more experiences, and you learn to conceptualize more efficiently, I offer more information. Therefore, you will experience a point where I may offer a more sufficient answer. Be practicing at your conceptualization. (Pause)

VICKI: So within the example of Seven, the essence of Seven is no longer physically manifesting?

ELIAS: Correct; but interacts. He will always interact. The “whirling” that was experienced within our session time, that you were understanding of other energies and essences incorporated within a vibrational tone, is an interaction with you. All focuses are connected, for all are incorporated within each other. As there is no separation, it is difficult to be expressing of these concepts to you when you do incorporate such separation!

VICKI: If there is no separation, then why would there be a “vested interest?” What would be the difference?

ELIAS: I will express to you, that as you are aware already, different elements may be accomplished within non-physical focus than may be accomplished within physical focus. My connection within physical focus and interaction with you is quite different than would be within non-physical focus. There would be no interaction through this “thickness,” therefore an experience of a freer-flowing energy. I also incorporate effortlessness within non-physical focus interaction. With physical focus is needing of much effort within energy. (Pause)

You may have your name; Rudim; R-U-D-I-M; which we may, if you are so inclined, be expressing of Rudy! (Laughter) I hold an affection for this tone. (Smiling at Jene)

VICKI: I have another essence name question, a request from my friend Viki, aligned with the pink family.

ELIAS: Ah, yes. (Smiling)

VICKI: She wants to know her essence name.

ELIAS: Then I shall express to her, Elias welcomes her presence, and you may experience her jumpfulness! (Chuckling)

VICKI: She’s afraid she’ll have nightmares!

ELIAS: With very big blue eyes! (Grinning) Are you wishing of more questions?

JENE: Well, let’s see. Do I have an essence name in this ...

ELIAS: (Interrupting) Rudy!

JENE: Rudy ...

VICKI: That’s you!

RON: Rudim.

JENE: Rudy. I didn’t hear that clearly before. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I will not be expressing of developmental focuses to this individual, for it is unnecessary. You possess the ability to investigate your own.

JENE: Thank you.

ELIAS: Shall we on to our game?

VICKI: Okey dokey! For Shynla ...

ELIAS: Ah, Shynla! Very, very cranky!

VICKI: She would like to connect the essence of Rose, in the herbs category, with phlox.

ELIAS: Express to Shynla, very good! One point! Correct category. Express to Michael, his impression was correct. His category was obviously incorrect.

VICKI: Alright. She would also like to connect Rose, in mythical creatures, with the Sphinx.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: She would like to connect Ayla, in books, with The Clan Of The Cave Bear.

ELIAS: Incorrect.

VICKI: And she would like to connect Rose, in art, with child-rearing.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Very good attempt! Incorrect.

VICKI: Okay, she would like to connect Paul, in the artist category, with Janis Joplin.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: She would like to connect Tomkin, in religions, with Muslim.

ELIAS: One point; connecting with our fabric also; very coarse.

VICKI: Yeah, she’s still tweaked out about that! (Elias chuckles) For Samuel ...

ELIAS: Ah! An attempt!

VICKI: He would like to connect Rose, in the insect category, with a flea.

ELIAS: One point! (To Ron) He will be very excited!

VICKI: It’s his first point! He would like to connect Rose, in countries, with Spain.

ELIAS: Incorrect; wrong direction.

VICKI: I thought that was right. He would like to connect Rose, in gems, with a sapphire.

ELIAS: One point! (Whispering to Ron) Two!

VICKI: Okay, that’s it for Samuel. For Michael; he would like to connect Twylah, in mass events, with English plagues.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) One point! Yarr will be disappointed. He has this miserable good and bad issue within physical focus! Express to Yarr, this was a positive expression of collective consciousness.

VICKI: Okay. He would like to connect Rose, in artists, with Frank Lloyd Wright.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: Also to connect Elias, in philosophers, with William James.

ELIAS: Ah, the pragmatist! One point; although this not to say that I adopt this philosopher’s philosophy completely! Continue.

VICKI: Rose, in art, with architecture.

ELIAS: One point. Building of things, not child-rearing. Children are not the only connection within this essence family.

VICKI: Okay. I would like to introduce a new category, of essence family connections.

ELIAS: If you are so wishing.

VICKI: And within that, I would like to connect, within vibrational tones, the concepts expressed within the movie “Babe” with the essence families of Zuli and Milumet.

ELIAS: (Smiling) Acceptable.

VICKI: I would like to connect Rose, in fabrics, with sheepskin or fleece.

ELIAS: Fleece; one point.

VICKI: And Otha, in philosophers, with Spinoza.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: And also Rose, in birds, with a hawk.

ELIAS: (Smiling) Acceptable. One point.

RON: I would like to connect Ayla, in fruits, with passion fruit.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Acceptable.

RON: Also Ayla, in musical instruments, with a xylophone.

ELIAS: Incorrect.

RON: Okay. Paul, in occupations, with a wainwright.

ELIAS: Acceptable, partial. One point.

RON: Ah! I can get two points for that one! Ordin, in authors, with Charles Dickens.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: And Rose, in constellations, with Pleiades.

ELIAS: One point. Dimin would be quite pleased with this entry! (To Jene) Do you wish an attempt?

JENE: I’m not completely sure of the game.

ELIAS: Very well. You may discuss the workings of our game with individuals who will be helpful to you. (Here, the door slams shut) Wind ... my element!

JENE: Mine also!

ELIAS: Small universe! (Grinning)

JENE: It is! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Very well! I will be speaking with you futurely, soon; and extending open invitation for Rudy’s presence.

JENE: Thank you.

ELIAS: (Smiling) I will be expressing to you this evening, quite affectionately, au revoir!

GROUP: Au revoir!

Elias departs at 9:30 PM.


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