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Sunday, March 17, 1996

<  Session 79 (Group/Castaic/Revised at Elias’ request)  >

“Old Friends”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Bill (Kasha); and arriving late, Jim (Yarr); and three new individuals, Jeff (Katarina), Charles Sr. (Thomas), and Charles Jr. (Ti-Le’). Charles Sr. and Charles Jr. will be abbreviated ChSr and ChJr.

Vic’s note: I have termed this the “Old Friends” session because our three new individuals are all very connected with the essences in our game.

Elias arrives and 6:23 PM.

ELIAS: Good evening! (Smiling)

BILL: Good evening!

ELIAS: We welcome new essences this evening: (pause) one old friend. Greetings! (Smiling at Charles Sr., who nods in acknowledgment)

This evening, we shall engage in a discussion of consciousness. This will also involve subject matter with reference to The Creating Universal One And Whole, for this is consciousness. Think of your present belief systems, which greatly incorporate your scientific technology, and ask yourselves with your rational, logical intellect how you may arrive at conclusions of an impersonal universe and elements possessing consciousness extending from non-conscious matter. Within your present belief systems, you accept that a cosmic explosion occurred and created your universe; this being completely random and possessing no consciousness. Your world began as gasses, rock; elements not possessing life, to your estimation; and from this, through your belief systems of evolution, you believe that miraculously, somehow, consciousness was incorporated into matter accidentally. If you inquire to me, I will express to you, this possesses no logic. Matter did not appear “cosmically” within this explosion, and then create consciousness. Consciousness was; is.

I will express to you that in your terms of viewing in time elements – for you are focused within time – we shall use terminology of “before,” which is also now, (smiling) but we shall be indulging of terminology that you may relate to.

Therefore, before the organization and orchestration of your universe as you view it was consciousness. Before essence, as you interpret it, was the whole. You may use any term you are wishing for this action. I do not use the term “being” purposely, for your term of God or All That Is or The Creating Universal One And Whole, whatever you choose to call it, is not a being. It is all consciousness. It is an action. It incorporates all.

Within this experience of what you term to be god are many, many elements. Before the incorporation of essence, so to speak, there were elements of consciousness. You may also term these to be “units,” which others have expressed previously. These elements of consciousness know no limits of time or space. You may think of these as very tiny black holes. You may think of them, if you will, in physical terms as elements smaller than your smallest physical particles; but these elements are that which create all physical expression. Everything within every universe within every dimension is created by these elements of consciousness, and they are everything. They are not only the driving force behind matter and action, but are matter and action also; this being the basis of what you term to be god.

I will also express to you, as I have many times previously, you incorporate all the same as this action of god. You are the same; but it is more. It is more than the sum of all of the dimensions, of all of the universes, of all of the parts; but without you, it would not be either. Therefore, no separation; for you also are intimately a part. You incorporate your own individuality, your own intent, your own desires and focus; but you also incorporate all of it, and it possesses, so to speak, all of you. No one element, to the most minute unit of consciousness, is any less than another. Therefore, there is no contradiction in expressing to you that you each, within your individuality, are the center of the universe; for this is true.

Essence is what we will term a portion of this encompassing whole, although not a portion! (Smiling) Within your limitations of language, it is impossible to express to you the lack of division and separation; this being why I express to you to conceptualize these concepts that I offer to you, for within your thought patterns within physical focus, it is not possible for you to completely eliminate all separation and be understanding of these concepts. When I express to you that essence incorporates all systems, that all systems are open and available to you, this is what is incorporated by consciousness. You possess this. Every element of consciousness possesses all elements of the whole.

Each element chooses to manifest according to its desire and function. A flower manifests to the fullest of its ability. The units of consciousness that make up this flower are the same as that which you possess also. The flower’s intent and function is to be a flower. Your intent and function is to incorporate intellect and intuition, to be directing of your universe as you have created it. Therefore, make no mistake; you direct all of your physical manifestation in every area. We have discussed this many times within previous sessions. You create your individual reality, and collectively you create the reality en masse. Therefore, you are the creators of all that you perceive ... and far beyond. (Pause)

Consciousness seems to you to be a very “tricky business”; (grinning) elusive; an element to be pondered, but never quite to be understood. I say to you, it is not quite so difficult to be understanding of consciousness and its action if you are only viewing, if you are shifting your focus, which we have spoken of from the “time” of our first encounter physically within this developmental focus. Qualification! (Grinning) Many times, we have incorporated the elements of consciousness and your ability to be noticing. It is amusing that you incorporate, still, very much difficulty with these connections. Shifting perception is much easier than you create it to be! When I express to you that you need only shift your perception, I am not expressing that you turn completely around and be facing in another direction! Think only of using your peripheral vision.

We shall express the example of an archer (smiling at Charles Sr.) and his target. If the archer is focusing upon the target, the arrow will fly straight. If the archer is expressing to himself a noticing “off” the direction and the target, the arrow will “most probably” not engage the target efficiently. If he is viewing the wind velocity, the temperature, the angle of his bow, his footing, his balance, he is not concentrating upon the mark. Therefore, the arrow is not directed. He may stand in one position, and dependent upon his perception, the arrow will fly differently.

If you are viewing straight forward continuously and never noticing elements that are “slightly off” of your immediate perception, you deny yourself many choices and many knowings of reality. It is only dependent upon your perception and shifting of your perception, noticing that you have been indoctrinated in one area of thinking. When you are noticing that your thinking continually “pulls back” to one focus, you may lean to the side and notice another perception.

All things are not always what they appear to be, but you possess the ability to be viewing reality in many different directions; this being also your “method,” so to speak, if you must incorporate a method, (smiling) for changing your reality. The action of shifting your perception within consciousness may offer you information without physical movement at all, for your understanding of situations may change. Your vision of probabilities may widen simply by shifting your perception. Therefore, I say to you, consciousness is not an elusive, mystical concept that you may not grasp, but it is a magical element that you possess. (Long pause) Very quiet! (Chuckling) And we have no questions? Obviously not, for we are all so very connected and understanding of these concepts! (Grinning, and another long pause)

VICKI: Okay, I have a question.

ELIAS: Of course, Oh Asker of Questions! (Laughter) Proceed!

VICKI: Okay. You mentioned visualizing probabilities. Are the probabilities that are available to you engaged by the visualization of them?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon your desire. You may be concentrating quite intensely and visualizing, “I am wishing for a new automobile. I am visualizing a very bright blue automobile, which I am wishing to be materializing immediately!” I wager it will not, although you do possess the ability to accomplish this, but you do not believe that you do; but within this wishing, this may not necessarily be in alignment with your true desires. Within your self, and true connection with self, your self will not betray you and will seek its ultimate expression. It always leans to your benefit.

Your consciousness is always connected with what you would term to be your highest or most perfect good, although ... (looking at Vicki, who says, “There is no bad or good!” Elias grins) Correct; but these are terms that you incorporate and belief systems that you also cling to very firmly. Therefore, within this “accepted system,” your consciousness is aware of your belief systems and how far they reach, or do not. It will strive for your “best interest” inwardly. This is not to say that you do not possess the ability to thwart these efforts, for you do, and you are quite efficient at accomplishing this! Your intuition expresses one thing to you. Your intellect may very well override this expression and “move on” itself, moving you with it, with your permission.

I will express that it is quite amusing that Michael expresses that his consciousness is seemingly “running away” with its own ideas without his permission and without his knowledge. Very, very incorrect! Your intuition speaks to you continuously. You are aware. You only do not listen. Be remembering of our small story of the little one: “Mother, mother, mother, mother mother!” (Banging on the table) And mother is not paying attention; this being your intuition, which is continually in communication with you. You are striving to “reach the point,” so to speak, at which there will be no “foot-stomping” before the attention is gained; to be listening to the intuition before conflict is engaged. (What a concept!)

You have created a scenario within physical focus of aligning yourselves with your scientific belief systems so well that you automatically listen to the intellect. The intellect, as I have expressed, is a great asset to you, but its function is not to be incorporating all decisions alone. It does not understand how to properly function alone. Therefore, it creates information to reinforce itself. You may view this within your physical expression continuously. You will create elements to reinforce your own belief systems, and simultaneously your intuition will be continuously expressing, “Mother, mother, mother, mother,” and you will not listen, but you are beginning to shift your perception.

I will also within all fairness express for Michael’s benefit, in [not] wishing to incur angriness at using his example, that he also is moving in what you term to be a forward direction, in incorporating a greater understanding of the intuition; in seeing the small voice and listening, and following that voice also.

VICKI: Well regarding his definition of his “red warning flags” last night, is that the voice of his intellect or the voice of his intuition? (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: I will express, this is the voice of the intuition, although he is misinterpreting what it is expressing. He will arrive at a correct interpretation within a small amount of your time. Connecting between these elements of consciousness may seem to be confusing at times, but this is only for the reason that you have focused so strongly in one direction. (Pause)

CHJR: I got a question. What happens when desire and function, in its purest form, whatever that may be, what happens when the two conflict with each other?

ELIAS: Ah, conflict! When you are incorporating conflict, you are opposing intent. Left to the probabilities of following your intent and your desires, you will incorporate no conflict. If you are experiencing conflict, you must examine this and identify to yourself where this conflict is originating from, for in this you will find that it is an element conflicting with your intent and desire. Your desires will follow your intent. (Pause) You are not understanding. (Smiling affectionately)

CHJR: Some of it.

ELIAS: It is a difficult issue, for each of you incorporates challenges within physical focus. Therefore, you each incorporate conflict. Many individuals have engaged with me for much of your physical time, so to speak, although it is in actuality not much time, (grinning) and continue to incorporate conflict, and then incorporate conflict that they are incorporating conflict! (Laughter)

CHSR: Question. You spoke of archer, the archer. The target remains the same. The concentration remains the same. The archer can be anywhere, and the target is the same. Why, even though distance be the same, the archer seeks a heavier bow? It doesn’t change a heavy conveyance of the arrow to the target. It doesn’t change the lob, or it doesn’t change the ... it changes the lob, it changes the directness, and it may even change the time of getting there, but is this a weakness or is this a failure because he strives to go for a heavier bow, even though the first one, the results are the same? Is there any reason for going for the heavier?

ELIAS: I will express to you, first of all, there is no failure. You do not fail. You perceive that you may fail, for you attach belief systems upon your perception. In actuality, you do not fail. You incorporate different experiences for your knowledge. I will also express to you that your striving within this area is only an expression of “pushing your perception,” so to speak; testing your limitations or lack of limitations. This also will be in conjunction with your alignment to specific essence families. I have expressed to you a greetings this evening, for although within your present perception you do not incorporate a remembrance, I do. (Pause) Therefore, I have welcomed an old friend, connected with the Milumet family and very connected within our game of this essence family.

(To Vicki) Now, I shall express also, in an offering to you: You may express to Shynla, this will be her connection of the old man, which is the counterpart within essence – the same essence – as this individual, which has been offered to her as a physical connection, as she has been expressing over and over and over that she is wishing to be connecting within physical focus. She has offered herself physical connection. This essence name will be Thomas, (said slowly, emphasizing the “s” sound) fragmented of our Tomkin, also very connected with her Amos; therefore old friend, and very interesting to you each; this young one also (indicating Charles Jr.) being connected with Elizabeth within that essence family, incorporating essence name of Ti-Le’. T,i, hyphenate, capital L,e, apostrophe. (Emphatic pause, during which you can hear Vicki laugh, as she is starting to lose it) Greetings, Yarr!

JIM: Greetings, Rastin!

ELIAS: We will also offer information, as I am on this subject matter, to our new essence incorporated; (indicating Jeff) interesting connections and very interesting relationships which have been chosen. This essence name will be Katarina. I am understanding of males not wishing to be incorporating female names! (Grinning at Ron) I will express to you that within essence, there is no gender attached to names. They possess a vibrational tone quality which you choose, for you magnate to this; this also being a connection within eastern cultures that you would view now within your known physical world to be Russian.

BILL: That’s interesting!

ELIAS: You may understand your connections more clearly presently. (Long pause, eyes closed) I have been waiting for this incorporation.

VICKI: That’s really interesting!

ELIAS: Is it not? (Grinning widely)

VICKI: It is really interesting! (She’s moving closer to losing it)

ELIAS: I will express to you that you would be quite interested to be engaging of Elizabeth’s perception, for the visualization that would be incorporated would be very interesting ... seeing George! (Vicki cracks up; she’s totally lost it now! Where are you, Mary???)

(To Charles Sr.) I will express to you that I am not exercising rudeness. I am playing with individuals who are understanding of this information. Our small group of individuals has incorporated a small one who has visualized and interacted with an essence, to which she has attached the name of George, when she was a small one. She presently is not incorporated here, but this visualization at a young age of this non-physical essence of George was expressed visually to be the same physical manifestation as this one present in you; this being for the reason that you are connected very strongly, through fragmentation, with an essence within our game, as are you also; (indicating Charles Jr.) which has expressed through physical barriers from non-physical focus. Shynla has been in contact also with this essence bearing the name of Tomkin. Within its expression of the same phenomenon, it was identified as Amos. Therefore, the connections are quite strong! (Grinning) A physical developmental focus of Thomas was experienced and fragmented; which now, you appear. Welcome! (Smiling affectionately)

CHSR: Thank you. (Pause)

ELIAS: Are you wishing questions? (Pause) I shall initiate a brief break, and you may be thinking of your questions, and I will be quite pleased to be engaged in answering of these.


BREAK 7:19 PM.
RESUME 7:44 PM.


ELIAS: I will initially address to Katarina in this “skepticism of coincidence!” As I speak of these connections that you possess with other developmental focuses, do not be interpreting this as so immediate, for they are far reaching, although you presently may incorporate a physical example of connections. Your inner connections, which I have given you a geographic location of, extend quite far, within your terms of years or centuries of this planet. You may be investigating of very ancient civilizations and tribes within certain areas of this country which exist now, which was not this specific country as you know it previously. In this, great artworks were created, specifically in gold. In this, you possess a great connection in these focuses, and align yourself with an affection for this; this being also a connection with an interest in ancient and eastern mysticism.

Therefore, your connection is much deeper and grander than a “coincidental encounter” that you possess presently; this being a slight manifestation of an affection to a cultural alignment. I am not expressing to you that you only align with this one area, only that you align with this area and time period of many, many centuries ago very strongly. You will find these artworks within a time period of approximately eight hundred years BC of your present calendar. You may investigate this information, for I am quite aware that this is seemingly to be quite convenient information as to your perception, but as I have stated, it extends far beyond your present encounter. This is a slight manifestation, only as an example of affection. (Pause) Are you wishing questions?

BILL: What is the connection between myself and Katarina?

ELIAS: (Accessing) There has been one previous encounter, not within your Russian element; a European connection incorporated as a friendship; not physical relations, in your terms. You will find that essences manifest many times connected with individuals repeatedly. This also is not coincidence or accidental. You also do not remanifest encountering individuals repeatedly to be “working out” of some “karma” or indebtedness. You repeat manifestations for further experience. You allow yourselves wider perceptions and more understanding of self by encountering individuals more than one time. I will also express to you though, that you are engaged simultaneously. Therefore, what you experience within this dimension of this now, you also are experiencing “in relation to” within that time and dimension simultaneously. They are all connected.

BILL: Of the previous encounter, you’re speaking of?

ELIAS: Correct. All of your developmental focuses are present. There is no past. (Pause)

CHJR: Can you tell me a little bit about Ti-Le’, (pronouncing it Tile) and I guess my past too?

ELIAS: Ti-Le’! (Correcting pronunciation) I will express this is an interesting manifestation incorporated with these individuals presently. Within this developmental focus that you are aware of presently in this dimension, you have chosen to align with this essence family of Zuli; but you incorporate many of the qualities of the family of Milumet, exchanging with the other, which is very common between these particular essence families. Certain essence families magnate to each other, for they compliment each other; these two being an example of this. The Sumafi and the Sumari engage this also. I will express to you that you have been manifest within connections of Milumet family alignments in other dimensional and developmental focuses.

This will seemingly pose a contradiction, for I have expressed that these essence families are expressly unique to this focus, this universe, this dimension; but other dimensions incorporate similar essence families also, to which there is a counterpart of this particular essence family. You have been quite aligned with this family many times. Your “main,” so to speak, attraction within physical manifestation lies in far eastern areas; more northern, pushing in the direction also of Katarina, an area which you now would view to be Mongolia; but you have also experienced island habitation in eastern areas of your planet. When I express eastern, this is only relative to your present position. You incorporate great spirituality, but also a great identification and alignment with physical expression, this being a balance; (grinning slyly at Ron) a complementing. (Staring at Ron, waiting) You wish to not ask?

RON: Well, I was gonna ask if the new essence of Katarina was aligned with the color orange.

ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, you also incorporate ... (blowing at Vicki, who cracks up. She was blown away early on!) ... this evening! A very interesting encounter this evening! I have expressed to you that you will, within this forum, encounter many more individuals, which will offer you much information of your reality of yourselves, of your universe ... of all. (Long pause) Shall we to our game?

RON: (To Vicki) Go ahead and do your list.

ELIAS: Ah! Incorporating within your election time absentee ballots! (Laughter)

VICKI: Absolutely! For Samuel, he would like to connect Rose, in the spices category, with sugar.

ELIAS: (Grinning) Incorrect.

VICKI: He would like to connect Rose, in countries, with Romania.

ELIAS: Express to Samuel, close other way! Incorrect.

VICKI: For Shynla, she would like to connect Rose, in directions, with outward.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: She would like to connect Ordin, in directions, with upward.

ELIAS: (Accessing) Acceptable. One point.

VICKI: She would like to connect Rose, in songs, with Hakuna Matata.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) For the little lion! I will accept this, for you may express to Shynla that although probabilities indicate another correct answer, present new correct answers may be incorporated also. One point.

VICKI: She would like to connect Rose, in flowers, with snapdragon.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: For Michael, he would like to connect, in vibrational tones, in the blue category, the names Milus, Michael, and Elias.

ELIAS: One point. (Rolling his eyes) This was very difficult!

VICKI: In mythological creatures, to connect Ordin with a phoenix.

ELIAS: Acceptable. One point.

VICKI: In mythological creatures, to connect Tomkin with a griffin.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: To connect Rose, in plants, with bamboo.

ELIAS: Incorrect.

VICKI: Then to connect Rose, in senses, with visualization.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: For myself, I’d like to connect Rose, in seeds, with a pine cone.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) One point.

VICKI: I would like to connect Rose, in musical notes, with F sharp and B flat.

ELIAS: (Accessing) We will offer one point for F sharp.

VICKI: I would like to connect Rose, in countries, with Portugal.

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: I would like to suggest a moving of strawberry to the roots and berries category, in connection with Otha, and connect an avocado in the fruits category.

ELIAS: It is unnecessary to be moving. You may incorporate another element into your category. One point.

VICKI: All absentee and non-absentee ballots are in! (What a geek!)

ELIAS: Tally the vote, Holmes! (Laughter)

RON: Okay, I’ll go next. I would like to connect Rose, in gods, with Cupid.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: I would also like to connect Rose, in herbs, with mint.

ELIAS: One point.

RON: And I would like to connect Patel, in the places category, with Redwood National Park.

ELIAS: One point. (Grinning)

RON: And Rose again, in the energy category, with thought.

ELIAS: (Swinging around to Vicki) Hua fuas! (Laughter)

RON: I’d like to add two more categories to the game, if I may.

ELIAS: Acceptable.

RON: Books and authors.

ELIAS: Very good! (Pause, and turning to Jim) Yarr?

JIM: Well, I didn’t do too much homework this week. I’ve been dealing with other issues, but in the new category, I would like to connect indigo, in the authors category, with Carlos Castaneda.

ELIAS: One point. (To Ron) I would offer an extra point for impression, but I wish not to be engaging the wrath of Lawrence! (Laughter)(To Charles Jr.) And shall you make an attempt?

CHJR: I’d have to have the categories in front of me.

RON: You do! (He starts explaining the game board to Charles Jr.)

ELIAS: (To Jeff) And shall you make an attempt also?

JEFF: I’ll try. (He starts looking at a game board)

ELIAS: We incorporate fun! Kasha!

BILL: Yes?

ELIAS: Yes???

BILL: You’re saying, make an attempt also. I’ll give it a shot. I think I’ve got the idea.

ELIAS: Very good!

BILL: Well, I have to look at them too, though. (He starts looking)

ELIAS: We shall engage this game and connections by hook or by crook! (Laughter)

VICKI: I do have a question, while everybody’s looking. Okay. Going back to the physically focused names category. So. Ti-Le’ would be a physically focused name?

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And also an essence name.

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And what would the connection between those two things be?

ELIAS: It has been chosen as an essence name for its vibrational tone quality. There is an affinity for the vibrational tone that it possesses. Therefore, it has been adopted as the essence name.

VICKI: And then I would have to wonder about the ... there must be a very strong connection between Ti-Le’ and Sophia.

ELIAS: Correct! (Pause, grinning)

VICKI: I suppose I shall investigate.

ELIAS: Very good! (Pause)

BILL: Well, tougher than I thought! (Elias laughs)

CHJR: Is Ti-Le’ an essence name?

ELIAS: Correct.

CHJR: But it’s not an individual’s name. It’s of that essence, so it’s not a particular personality, a particular person.

ELIAS: Incorrect.

CHJR: Ti-Le’ is a particular person?

ELIAS: All individuals within physical focus, whether you perceive them to be past or future, exist simultaneously. Therefore, they are.

CHJR: So it’s both.

ELIAS: Correct.

CHJR: Under vibrational tone qualities, I see the names Thomas, Amos, and Tomkin, and the rest of the categories have nothing; no information in them. Is that category names? (Elias starts to answer, but before he can get a word out ...)

RON: No, that category is hard! (Elias’ open mouth breaks out into a very wide grin, and we all crack up. Finally ...)

ELIAS: This category is an identification of vibrational tones. Through your inner senses, you may connect with vibrational tones. Everything within your perception incorporates a vibrational tone. Your table incorporates a vibrational tone. Every molecule, every atom, every unit of consciousness incorporates a vibrational tone. Therefore, within your inner senses your “objective,” so to speak, would be to be connecting with an individual scenario of connection of vibrational tones, of which there are more than you may count.

CHJR: Well, I’m willing to venture a guess, simplistic or not.

ELIAS: Acceptable. (Smiling)

CHJR: Under the purple category, for vibrational tone qualities, my guess is movement.

ELIAS: (Accessing) We shall accept this, for it incorporates more than what you would term to be half of a connection. Therefore, in acknowledgment of this attempt, I will be accepting of this. Log this! One point! You may also be focusing upon this answer you have offered, to be incorporating the additional element that is within the vibrational tone.

CHJR: Do you want an answer? Is that the answer?

ELIAS: This is my answer to you. (Smiling)

CHJR: Okay. Just checking. Acceptable.

ELIAS: Thank you! (Grinning widely, and we all crack up again) I shall incorporate much amusement with this young one! (More laughter)

VICKI: Oh, this is so interesting! (She’s still tripping out)

ELIAS: Fun is good! (Laughing)

BILL: Under Patel, in the fruits category, apple.

ELIAS: We have incorporated apple previously.

BILL: Oh, it has been?

RON: It may not have been put on that board yet.

BILL: Well, I was really tossed up between orange and apple.

ELIAS: Very good connecting; incorrect essence. (To Ron) You may be wishing to incorporate our “official” board.

RON: Yeah, I think I better. I’m creating confusion.

ELIAS: Ah, but you are quite efficient at this! We may be inquiring of Shynla and Michael and Lawrence, and I will assure you, they will be answering affirmative in agreement!

VICKI: I didn’t hear the first part.

RON: You had to be there! (Laughter)

CHJR: I got another guess here. In the directions category, with the purple section, my guess would be “here.”

ELIAS: Ah! Very interesting! Upward, and also here. One point; for I was also expressing an incomplete of upward. Very good! I am acknowledging of this effort. Very connected! (Pause, chuckling) Are you wishing of more questions this evening?

JIM: I have a question regarding sensations, inward sensations I’ve been having, that seem to be new and different. Perhaps you could give me some insight as to their origin?

ELIAS: I will express to you to engage within your meditative state and be connecting. You will be identifying, for this is an identification of what you seek.

JIM: Good! Thank you!

ELIAS: You are welcome.

VICKI: Look at all the people looking at the game board!

ELIAS: (Grinning) Quite interesting, is it not? Probabilities change continuously.

VICKI: Regarding Michael’s and my conversation last night, regarding the conflict, were we like way out in left field, or were we more like towards center field?

ELIAS: I have expressed previously that you are concentrating much energy in one direction, to which you will be creating conflict if you are continuing. Allow natural time, natural expression. Your desire has been stated. The probabilities have been initiated. Therefore, it is unnecessary for this concentration. You create what you concentrate upon. If you are concentrating upon personal responsibility, you will create it, not uncreate it! More clearly now, heed the warning I expressed previously. (Pause)

Incorporate effortlessness. Also, be remembering: Energy is reality. Thought is energy. Therefore, thought manifests; and although I have discussed thought being expressed audibly manifesting quickly, all thought is manifest. Even if you are manifesting not in this dimension, you are affecting of an alternate self, which is directly affecting of you. Therefore, thought is energy. Energy is reality. (Long pause) Another room full of little mice, being (whispering) very, very quiet!

RON: Well, you gave us a lot of cheese tonight!

ELIAS: (Laughing) Quite effective, would you not say? (Ron nods) Very well. I shall allow you to connect and gnaw on your cheese for this evening! (To Vicki) Incorporate your thought process in connecting with consciousness and recognizing of it. This is an effective motion. (To group) I will be engaged with you very soon. I extend an affectionate energy to you each for this evening, and look forward to our next encounter. Good evening, and au revoir!

Elias departs at 8:27 PM., and pops back in at 9:07 PM. We were sitting outside discussing the concepts of consciousness and essence, and Mary announced “out of the blue” that we better go back inside if we wanted the pop-in on tape. We went inside and Elias arrived immediately, before Mary even had a chance to sit down. Present were Mary, Vicki, Ron, and Jim; the others had left earlier.

ELIAS: My chair, Holmes! (Ron gets the rocking chair) One point for Michael for acknowledging impressions! He will be excited at his acquiring of an extra point! (Laughter) I have used as an example your time frame only for your understanding, for there is no time incorporation. Also, essence did not create consciousness. Consciousness is. Consciousness creates all. I have expressed the usage of a time frame for your perception in expressing consciousness as original, and essence springing from consciousness. In actuality, there is no time frame. All is simultaneous. All is in a state of becoming, as is also The Creating Universal One And Whole, which is not completed, which is ongoing, which is present always, now.

JIM: Is The Creating Universal One And Whole consciousness?

ELIAS: And more.

JIM: And more. And more being?

ELIAS: I have expressed that this is not a “being.” You create your images of god in your likeness, for this is what you understand. This is what you may attach to. Therefore, you interpret god as a being, for you interpret yourselves as a being. Therefore, you contain your perception of god. As I have expressed previously, a very small word for a very small concept! There are no bounds.

VICKI: So does that mean we should not perceive ourselves as a being either?

ELIAS: It would not be possible for you to perceive yourselves in any other fashion; for within your perception, which is your reality, you are a being. Within all of your focuses, you are a being. Within essence, you are not. God is an experience. It is a movement; an action; all encompassing. All consciousness springs from it. (Pause)

Interesting. (Grinning) I allow for the opportunity for questions, and I receive not a one. I allow for interaction, I receive many. This subject will be ongoing. I have only introduced this to you this evening quite briefly. It will be difficult to be expressing of this subject to you and it will incorporate distortion, for this is unavoidable within your language and understanding, for you may not perceive of the immensity of the experience of which I speak. It is automatic to you to be viewing an immense being which you express is beyond your comprehension, but you attach a comprehension to this immense being! This “being” does not exist! What exists is the totality of experience.

VICKI: And all consciousness springs from that?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: From experience? Want, the desire to create an experience?

ELIAS: (Grinning) This being your distortion!

JIM: Yes, indeed.

ELIAS: I have expressed it would be helpful to you to engage your conceptualization; for within your perception and your understanding and your language, it is not possible to express to you the totality of “it.”

VICKI: So physical focus is one way in which we experience.

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And there are lots of other ways.

ELIAS: Far beyond your present imagination. You incorporate physical manifestations far beyond your imagination, and beyond this you incorporate experiences also; for within the totality of essence, you are not a “contained being.” You are not a closed system.

VICKI: Your interaction with us, is this basically for your own experience?

ELIAS: Partially. I have expressed previously to Ron, within his question to me, “Do I learn from you as you learn from me?,” to which I expressed negative. I repeat this presently; although within the experience of essence, within the interaction of essence and continued connection and becoming, I gain experience through all focuses and also through all experiences, as does all other elements of All That Is. There are no sections.

JIM: From where you are, you can experience All That Is?

ELIAS: As do you also. (Smiling)

JIM: In our limited ... because we have limited perception, we think we do. We limit ourselves.

ELIAS: Correct. My perception to you may appear to be wider. I incorporate a greater understanding of my experiences and encounters and interaction. Therefore, my understanding of connection is greater. This is not to say that you do not possess the same ability. You only limit your perception. You do this for reasons. You have chosen this physical manifestation for its unique experiences. Therefore, in this you intentionally limit your perception to enhance the individual experiences.

JIM: Too bad.

ELIAS: (To Vicki) Yes?

VICKI: I can’t formulate my question.

RON: I have a quick question, while she’s thinking.

ELIAS: Once again ...

RON: ... a quick question! Maybe you can give us a quick dissertation on why Mary and I were so attracted to our new essence of Katarina.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) A quick dissertation? Interesting! I will say that you are quite connected. This individual also possesses connections that she is not presently aware of, but will become so soon. You have both incorporated an immediate recognition of this, for you hold commonalties. Analogies of magnets is quite appropriate, although you do not understand what you are magnating to. This individual holds great depth and great connections. Your recognition of this also is interesting – very probable – but your identification within waking consciousness is an expression of a demonstration to yourself of a moving forward within connections in essence with your friend. He holds deep connections to this individual also. Michael may not view that he holds the ability to recognize Paul’s energy, but the connection was instantaneous. Therefore, he may not feel energies “floating around,” but he will immediately identify. (Pause, smiling) An interesting accumulation of probabilities within this evening’s sessions, within your connections.

RON: Big time.

ELIAS: These things are all connected. Be recognizing of this! There are no accidents! The incorporation of this move with Michael, which involves you also, is very connected with all of these probabilities and their materialization. You may express to yourselves, and to Michael also; the probabilities move and continue, whether you are recognizing of them or not. They have been set in motion through your desires, and also with the incorporation of your pyramid. There is much more working than you understand.

VICKI: Well, I have a question. Within my connection with Michael and with Ron, why did I not have any recognition of this individual of Katarina at all?

ELIAS: (Smiling) For Lawrence disconnects from the engagement of this phenomenon. (Pause)

VICKI: I don’t understand.

ELIAS: This is a deep connection and identification. Ron moves closer to the incorporation of this and also moves closer in connection with Michael through consciousness, engaging in areas of consciousness that Lawrence backs away from. Within this, the recognition of this particular individual and her abilities and connections is recognized. When you are turning within your connecting dream to view the focus instead of the reptile creature, you will also incorporate this immediate identification. (Pause) Are you understanding?

VICKI: I think so. (Long pause)

ELIAS: The ease was apparent, regardless. An effortlessness of incorporation; instant connection.

RON: Well, I have one more question, but I’d like to change the tape before I ask it.

ELIAS: Very well.

Here, we lose Ron’s question because we lose five minutes of tape. For some reason, the camcorder didn’t engage, and Ron didn’t notice it for five minutes. His question was, “Is Katarina connected to Paul in the same way that Milus is connected to Elias?” The answer was yes; this connection being that of a future focus. The transcript picks up with Elias talking to Vicki, but my memory is vague beyond that.

ELIAS: You may experience a feeling within yourself of tremendous expansion. You may incorporate an actual physical feeling of becoming much larger, for you must expand to incorporate a greater depth of joyfulness that you may feel through these connections. Therefore, although others may perceive your physical body to stay the same, you shall know better; for what you view with your vision, in part, is only your perception. What I view within energy is multitudinal. (Pause) You are wishing no more information this evening? (Pause) You are clearer of your information offered? (Pause) Very well. I bid you a very fond and very loving good evening.

Elias departs at 9:37 PM.


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