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Tuesday, March 14, 2000

<  Session 581 (Private/Phone)  >

“Expressing Latent Abilities”

“Re-Creating Probabilities”

“Beliefs Concerning Aging”


Participants: Mary (Michael), Joanne (Gildae), Marj (Grady), and sitting in on this session, Luanne (Inez) and Ted (Cara).

Elias arrives at 2:15 PM. (Arrival time is 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ALL: Good afternoon! Hello again! (Laughter)

MARJ: And how are you, big guy?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And shall you answer this questioning for me?

MARJ: You are wonderful!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! In your perception, you are correct! (Laughter)

MARJ: Oh, I’m right about something?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! How goes your ... legalities? (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ: They’re still coming after you!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Therefore, the litigation process continues!

MARJ: Yes, it does!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

JOANNE: And how is the crystal ball? Is it working yet?

ELIAS: Continuing in status of malfunction! (Laughter)

MARJ: We’ll have to replace it.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! And you may proceed.

JOANNE: Elias, I want to first confirm my family and alignment. I am Milumet aligned with Ilda. Is that correct? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOANNE: And my orientation – I still haven’t been able to figure it out. I lean more toward all of the above or none of the above, so I was wondering if you could help me with that one.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! I shall express to you, first of all, you may not be manifesting within this particular dimension without an orientation, nor may you be incorporating all three! Ha ha ha ha! At least not within one focus! (Laughing)

MARJ: Can she be a combo of two?

ELIAS: No. The purpose of choosing an orientation is to be choosing a design, so to speak, of perception for one particular focus, and as I have stated, as essence, you do agree to be participating in at least one focus of each orientation within this physical dimension.

Therefore, you are experiencing all of the orientations as essence, but each particular focus of attention chooses one individual orientation as the design of the perception, for your orientation is what you may term to be a key element of your perception and is tremendously influencing of your perception.

In this, I shall express to you that within this particular focus, you hold the orientation of common.

JOANNE: Hmm! I have such a tough time with that. I just can’t bring myself to say that word!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

JOANNE: And I don’t know why! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Now; I shall express....

JOANNE: (Inaudible, and everybody cracks up)

ELIAS: I shall express to you the reason that you experience difficulty with this term individually.

I have chosen this term of“common” to be associating with one particular expression of orientation, for it is the most commonly expressed within any given time framework by essences manifest within this physical dimension.

I may also explain to you that you and some other individuals also hold difficulty with this terminology, for you associate this within your beliefs as what you identify as ordinary rather than extraordinary, and you also associate this term of “common” with the lack of speciality.

Let me also express to you, these, although they are aspects of beliefs, they are quite strongly expressed in mass belief systems, and therefore, as any individual leans in the direction within their individual desire of wishing to be creating distinctions of self within a particular focus which may be identified as extraordinary or what you assess to be specialities, this particular term may be in conflict with those beliefs.

But I shall also express to you that this is the point of this shift in consciousness, to be recognizing these beliefs and neutralizing those aspects, and allowing yourself the acceptance of self and the recognition in genuineness of your uniqueness, your individuality, and the wondrousness of your expression in each manifestation, for this IS the genuine expression of ALL manifestations within this physical dimension.

I shall also express to you, we have not spoken yet in explanation in detail, so to speak, of this particular expression of orientation of common. I shall be offering more information as to the explanation of this particular orientation.

But we have been addressing to the expressions of orientation of soft and intermediate previously, to be offering explanations to individuals that experience tremendous difficulty and conflict in their attempt to be fitting their expressions into the types of expressions of the officially accepted reality in which they do not fit, and therefore create a blocking of energy flow in a natural free expression.

In many expressions, individuals that hold the orientation of common do not experience this particular type of limitation in their allowance of their expression of natural flow of energy. This is not to be confused with the conflict and confusion that ALL individuals experience in conjunction with beliefs or with other expressions of qualities of an individual focus.

In this, there are expressions of qualities of a personality in an individual focus, such as a thought focused individual or an emotionally focused individual. There are tremendous influences of beliefs that are quite affecting, and these expressions may not necessarily be coupled with the expression of orientation. They are different manifestations.

Therefore, do not confuse yourself further in the thought process that merely for the reason that you have created an orientation of common within this focus, you shall be sailing through (laughter) your interaction and ...

JOANNE: Well, I haven’t sailed so far, though! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! ... and not encountering or creating any conflict or confusion!

MARJ: Elias, she creates glorious conflict and confusion!

JOANNE: Magnificent!

MARJ: Yes, magnificent!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I shall be congratulating you upon your glorious creations!

JOANNE: Oh, it’s really magnificent! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

I tried to come up with my kids’ and my husband’s essence name and family and alignment....

MARJ: And orientation.

JOANNE: And orientation! Thanks, mom! And I was wondering if I could tell you them, and you could tell me if I was even close.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOANNE: Okay. I have here for my husband Jim: his orientation is common, he’s Borledim aligned with Tumold, and his essence name is something along the lines of Kaleal. (Pause)

ELIAS: I shall express to you, your identification of essence families and orientation are correct. Your assessment through your impression of essence name may be altered to Kasheel; K-A-S-H-E-E-L. (kä-sheel’)

JOANNE: Thanks! Well, I’m gonna count that as a couple of points!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

JOANNE: My son Jimmy: he’s intermediate, his family is Tumold, he’s aligned with Vold, and his essence name is something along the lines of Marage. (Pause)

ELIAS: I am quite acknowledging of your allowance for your impressions! As to essence families, you are correct. As to orientation, individual holds the orientation of soft.

JOANNE: Jimmy is soft! Hmm!

ELIAS: As to the essence name, this may be adjusted to Imirage; I-M-I-R-A-G-E. (im’-ar-äzh)

JOANNE: Okay. My Mikey, Michael: I had him as soft, Sumari aligned with Zuli, and his name was Jeorge with a J. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence families, correct; orientation, common. This naming is attached to a physical focus.

JOANNE: Oh! Okay.

ELIAS: Essence name, Leale; L-E-A-L-E.

JOANNE: Thank you!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome!

JOANNE: The focus name Jeorge, was that a focus of Michael? Is that one of his focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: The other thing I want to ask about is, if I see another focus of mine in a dream or in an altered state, I try to sit down and write something about that focus to try to get some information, and I had received some information. In this imagery, I was standing there, and this other person was talking about how they wanted a painting of a landscape, and all I could think of was, “I know he’s not talking to me because I can’t paint!” That was the end of the imagery, and then I asked C9 to tell me what that was about, and she told me to figure it out myself! (Laughing)

So I sat down with a pen and paper, and I started to write, and what I came up with was, it was a focus of mine. I gave him the name Don Pedro, and he was a distant relative to the King of Spain, and that’s who he was speaking to at the time. This particular individual, I guess early on in the court, thought he was a really good painter, and he was trying to get everybody to believe he was a good painter, but he really couldn’t paint anything recognizable to anyone else, and after a while, the king got mad at him. He had enough of him walking around telling everybody how great he was, and put him in charge of painting outhouses! (Laughing) And he became sort of the king’s groundskeeper or housekeeper. He made sure that the king’s holdings were in good repair and whitewashed and taken care of.

And I want to know, do I have a really great imagination, or is this really what happened with my focus of Don Pedro? (Laughing)

ELIAS: I express to you acknowledgment of your allowance to be objectively connecting with another focus that you hold.

MARJ: So she did paint outhouses?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking! (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ: Such lineage! (Laughter)

ELIAS: And shall you express to yourself the gloriousness of essence now, in acknowledgment of your tremendous expression of creativity and wondrousness in fame? Ha ha! (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ: Wow!

JOANNE: It’s funny, because the roof on our house was leaking, and the ceiling in the kitchen was all messed up. My husband conned me into fixing it, and I can’t paint – I can’t do it! Well, anyway, I said,”Alright, I’ll do it.” So I was working on fixing the ceiling in the kitchen, and I kept thinking of Don Pedro, and I said, “C’mon, help me here! You know how to do this. Give me a hand!” And I did a magnificent job on that ceiling! Our friend, who is a professional painter, admitted he couldn’t have done a better job on that ceiling. So was Don Pedro like really helping me? (Laughing)

ELIAS: Let me express to you that this individual IS you.

JOANNE: Well, yeah, I know, but....

ELIAS: Therefore, you may, within any moment, call upon the expression of energy of any other focus – for it is you – and you may allow yourself to be engaging that activity or what you assess as a particular talent or ability. You hold all of these abilities within you. These are all different aspects of you, and are all being expressed simultaneously NOW.

Therefore, as you allow yourself to turn your attention ever so slightly and tap the energy of that aspect of you, you also create a type of open window in which you allow yourself to express abilities that lie latent in your attention presently.

JOANNE: Okay. So, it did help. I did get that information from my essence.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: That situation reminded me of something else. When I was younger, I went skiing. I was skiing down this mountain, and I had never skied before. I had no idea what I was doing, but I really got into it, and I was skiing really fast, and I had the poles going, and all of sudden, I looked down and I saw the bottom of the hill coming, and I had no clue how to stop. There was a fence and a lot of people standing at the bottom of the hill, and I was like, “Oh my god, I’m going to crash into them all!” And then something happened.

All of a sudden, I could hear this little voice in my head giving me step-by-step directions in how to stop when I got down there, and I did it. I was very calm, and I did a perfect one-eighty turn at the bottom of the hill. I’ll never forget that! Is that the same thing?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Was that from a current focus that I have whose name, I believe, is Sebastian? (Pause, with Elias coughing a bit)

ELIAS: No.

JOANNE: Okay, but I have a focus that was like a really good skier?

ELIAS: In recreation, yes.

JOANNE: Okay, good. Okay, that’s pretty neat!

ELIAS: Let me express to you that this type of action occurs quite frequently throughout your physical dimension. You may term this to be inspiration or you may incorporate other types of identifications for this type of experience, but in actuality, you are allowing yourself an openness and allowing yourself to tap into the energy of essence – which is you – and access those qualities which are expressed or those experiences which are expressed within other focuses of attention, and incorporate them into your experience within THIS focus of attention. You may be accomplishing this action within any moment quite at will, if you are so choosing.

MARJ: Elias, if I didn’t identify a particular focus, but I just called upon Grady at a time when I was obsessing about something, would it work the same way?

ELIAS: Yes. It is unnecessary for you to hold an objective identification of all of your focuses or of any of the experiences of your focuses of essence, for in your desire to be creating that energy exchange, that energy flow from one aspect to another, there is an automatic identification, and you shall instantaneously allow yourself to focus your attention in the direction in which it shall be most beneficial to you.

It matters not that you objectively know or recognize that you hold another focus of essence which is incorporating the experience of skiing and incorporates the knowledge of how to be manipulating of this particular action. What holds importance is your allowance in trust of self and opening that energy flow, in which you shall turn your attention automatically to the aspect of self, of essence, that shall correlate most perfectly to your experience and be the most beneficial to you in that experience.

This be the reason that many times, individuals express that they have experienced a moment of inspiration. They do not accredit this inspiration to an outside force, nor are they offering the validation to any other individual for the action which is accomplished. You afford yourself the validation and the “creditation” for the action which is accomplished, as you recognize that regardless of your identification of inspiration – or communication of essence, of other focuses, of angels, of God – it matters not. YOU are what is creating the action, and you shall afford yourself the acknowledgment of that, for subjectively and underlyingly, even within your objective awareness, you hold the knowing that it IS you that is creating of this action.

You hold all of these abilities already. You merely allow many of your abilities to lie latent within you, and do not access them or exercise them. This is not to say that you do not hold them.

JOANNE: Yeah. I’ll have to go skiing again! (Laughing) I have one other question, but I think it might take a lot of time. So, I want to thank you, and I’m going to turn the floor over to Grady here.

MARJ: Elias, I’m past menopause.

ELIAS: Congratulations! (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ: I just wanted to know if you were interested in an old lady!

ELIAS: Ah, and I may express to you that I may be considered to be a very old soul! (Laughter)

MARJ: Alright. Well now, strangely enough, I am experiencing, quote/unquote,”bleed-throughs” lately, and my question to you is, I was wondering if since I belong to the Tumold family and I’m aligned with Zuli, am I growing younger, or is something wrong?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I may express to you first of all, there is no element that is wrong! (Laughter, and Elias chuckles)

MARJ: Okay!

ELIAS: I may also express to you that this is quite amusing and inventive imagery! (Laughter)

MARJ: I just thought maybe I was following my intent! (Laughter)

ELIAS: And so you are, in creating physical manifestations of nonphysical concepts! HA HA HA! (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ: Clever, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Quite, and I shall express to you the suggestion that you allow yourself the recognition that as I am expressing of information to you, be remembering that these elements are expressed not in absolute. Therefore, as you choose to be incorporating a bleed-through of energy from any other aspect of yourself as essence, it is quite unnecessary to be incorporating physical blood! (Laughter)

JOANNE: That’s too much!

ELIAS: HA HA HA! (Laughter)

MARJ: Oh, I love you, Elias!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

I shall express to you, this is quite in alignment with your aspect of Zuli and your incorporation of physical expression, and in this, it is a rebelliousness in action as directed in responsiveness to this belief system of sexuality and the dictates of this particular belief system en masse, that as you incorporate more physical years within this physical dimension, that you shall be incorporating a deterioration and certain designs and expressions that are associated with aging.

In this, as you address to your own individual beliefs concerning physical aging, you have also incorporated this physical action which appears to you to be a regression of this process, which temporarily may appear to you to be an annoyance, but you may also be altering that choice within any moment.

Be recognizing that you create probabilities in each moment. You choose and create probabilities in each moment. Therefore, even those creations that appear to be ongoing within your physical dimension, within your physical expressions, are not, in actuality. They are created and re-created and re-created moment by moment in the action of probabilities.

Therefore, you may choose to be creating a different probability within ANY moment, and alter the perpetuation of that probability which you continue to re-create.

This has been purposeful in your creation to be drawing your attention to physical expressions and allowing you the opportunity to be viewing and assessing your individual beliefs concerning physical expression, physical manifestation, and that which you believe to be an aging process.

MARJ: Okay. I think I’ll just keep on working with this! (They all crack up again, and Elias laughs)

MARJ: Elias, since my last child was born, I’ve had a stuffed-up nose, and I use nose drops constantly. I thought I had discovered all of my belief systems regarding this, but I haven’t been able to uncreate it. Will you help me with this one?

ELIAS: Now; be remembering of what I have expressed to you within these previous moments concerning probabilities and what you create within your reality. Also allow yourself the recognition that you incorporate certain actions physically in relation to the qualities of this Zuli family.

Therefore, as you create this particular physical affectingness, you have created an outward manifestation to be associated with childbearing and with your choices concerning your engagement of this action. This also is quite an interesting physical creation, for individuals may not necessarily be associating the physical nose with.... (And they all crack up again – this group is a crack-up!)

JOANNE: With childbearing! (Laughter)

MARJ: This isn’t a sexual thing, is it? (Laughter) It’s big and it doesn’t work?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! Quite amusing! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I shall express to you, the reason you have incorporated this particular element of your physical expression is that you associate this with your head. You also associate this with your outer sense of smell, which is one particular outer sense that you believe may be easily turned on and off at will.

Therefore, there is in actuality a correlation between your choice of this particular physical manifestation and that of other physical elements within your physical form that are associated with childbearing. For in this, you create an affectingness of the physical manifestation, but you also create an affectingness of the sense itself, your sense of smell.

The association of that particular sense, and the physical location of your body, which you assess to be the controlling element of your body – your head – moves in relation to your association with childbearing. You have created a choice in the discontinuation of that action.

Now; the key element in this correlation is that the choice to be discontinuing in the participation of childbearing is in conflict with an underlying belief. In this, there is an aspect of beliefs that you hold underlyingly, that this is not in actuality your “right” to be creating that choice.

Therefore, you also associate within your physical creation in your nasal expression and create an irritation, which shall be a continuous, ongoing, re-created and re-created and re-created probability, which manifests in this particular physical affectingness as you continue to hold that underlying belief.

Now; let me express to you, you may be addressing to the belief, and you may ALSO be quite affecting of your physical creation merely through the recognition that you create probabilities moment by moment. They are not created and subsequently ongoing until the point that you choose to be uncreating them.

You are creating and re-creating the same action, moment by moment, in the choice to be re-creating the same probability repeatedly for extended time frameworks, but within ANY moment of that framework of time, you may be turning your attention and you may be creating a different choice of probability, and in that, the action which previously was occurring shall instantaneously alter, and may cease to exist.

MARJ: Oh, that would be a relief! (Elias laughs) Thank you, Elias. I’m really gonna work on that one! (Elias chuckles) That’s great! I think I understand.

I want to ask you about a dream I had. I was at the hospital with my mother, and I met a friend and I was standing talking to her, and my mother got agitated and said she was tired of waiting for me, and she left. After I visited for a little while, I decided to take the long way home, and I was flying! I used to fly, but I was doing like a swimming stroke above the trees, and it was a lot of work. This time when I flew, I just went head first, feet first, somersaulted, back-flipped, turned to the left, turned to the right, soared up in the air, flew downward over the rocks along the beaches – I was having a marvelous time! It was just a wonderful sensation!

Then I came to a bar, and there was a really nice-looking young couple in there, and they sold me a two liter bottle of beer for forty dollars. They gave me a vodka drink to go along with it because I complained about the price. Anyway, then I flew away again, holding my two drinks, and I came to a large building with an open area out front, and I flew around it. It was like a courtyard, and then along came the girl’s husband and another gentlemen, and they went inside this very large doorway. I could see inside the doorway, and I could see a large, black, baby grand piano, and I heard the husband say to the other man, “The mandala is inside.” Well, I flew in and I looked around, but I never saw the mandala. So, I came back out again, and the girl was there, and I asked her what this place was. She told me that her husband built it for her for her birthday, and it was to be their home.

I then left and I started to fly home fast because I began to worry that mom couldn’t get in the house, and then I remembered that she had the key and I didn’t. The major things that stand out to me are the flying, the mandala, and the key. I don’t know if I’m correct in really what the message was. I can only guess, and I was hoping you would give me some kind of an interpretation.

ELIAS: Offer to me first of all your impression of your flying, your mandala, and your keys.

MARJ: I would think the flying had to do with maybe my opening up and the sense of freedom.

ELIAS: You are correct.

MARJ: The mandala is ... I have a couple of different – what’s the word I want? – interpretations of what a mandala is. But one of them that I did get was, it’s something about maybe a kaleidoscope type of thing of past focuses. I know the Indians and the Africans and their tribes had mandalas. I don’t know if it had to do with that or not. I kind of thought that the key represented my mother in itself, since I’ve committed myself to caring for her and I’ve maybe put everything on hold. I don’t know how close any of that is.

ELIAS: I shall express to you, your motivation to be discontinuing your adventure and returning to your home in relation to the mother is your incorporation of personal responsibility as associated with this individual. The key is representative of another element.

The mandala is symbolic. This is associated within your dream imagery as being the symbol of the entirety of you – as you also have allowed yourself within impression – and in this, you hear the terms “the mandala is inside,” and you associate within your perception that the meaning of that expression is that the mandala lies within the instrument, the piano, which is outside. You have offered yourself the clue within your dream imagery, that as you begin seeking this mandala, symbolically speaking, within, you shall be accomplishing in your allowance of your interconnectedness, and your recognition of that, with all of self and all of essence.

The keys are your communication to yourself as the word; the key is the association of self and inside. The entirety of your dream imagery is expressing this same message, in your terms – that you identify the key as being the turning of your attention to self and inwardly.

You offer yourself the experience of the flying in freedom in the recognition of effortlessness and pleasure, and this creates a motivation.

As you progress, in your terms, through your imagery of this dream, you offer yourself the identification of self, of an issue that you hold in personal responsibility with regard to other individuals, and that you hold the ability to be turning your attention and allowing yourself to be altering your individual perception.

MARJ: You know, I can sit here and think about that flying, and I can feel it. It’s wonderful!

ELIAS: And this shall be offering you tremendous motivation, for this is the validation to you of your own ability in the expression of freedom.

MARJ: Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

MARJ: Is there time for one more?

ELIAS: You may.

MARJ: I find myself losing patience with my mother. I’ve been examining my belief systems about this, and I’m up against “it’s her choice and there’s nothing to fix,” versus my religious belief that God will have mercy on her and end her suffering.

Then I saw a fear on my part, watching her suffering and possibly thinking about my own death. I find myself hardening myself, I guess in self-defense. I don’t know. But I need some help to find out if I’m on the right track, or if I’m just spinning my wheels.

ELIAS: First of all, be recalling of your dream imagery and the element that you include in that dream imagery concerning personal responsibility, for as you continue to assume personal responsibility, you also open the door to be incorporating expectations, resentment, judgment, and a lack of acceptance.

Now; you may be expressing to yourself repeatedly that an action or a creation incorporated by another individual is their choice, and this shall be meaningless to you, as you are not turning your attention to self and being accepting of self.

As you continue to hold personal responsibility for other individuals, you also continue to create these expectations, and as you create expectations, you create judgments, and you create a lack of acceptance within your projection of energy to another individual and the lack of acceptance within self, and this creates conflict, and this creates what you term to be a friction or a tension.

And in this, it matters not how very many times you may be expressing to yourself that the other individual is creating their choices, for simultaneously, you are holding responsibility for their choices, and you are projecting the energy that you wish they shall create different choices, or incorporate “the great divine” and enlist that helpfulness, that IT shall create choices for the individual.

But in these expressions, you are not in actuality genuinely expressing the acceptance that the individual DOES create their choices. Therefore, it matters not how very many times you express to yourself or to other individuals objectively that this is what you believe. This is NOT what you believe.

You believe that outside forces are creating the reality for this individual, and that this individual may be creating some elements of their reality, but quite dysfunctionally, and needs be incorporating much helpfulness, for they are creating such a very poor attempt at creating their reality, and of course, you or God may be creating this individual’s reality so very much better.

MARJ: I’m still trying to fix it, in other words.

ELIAS: Ha ha! Or create it better, for it is inadequate as it is.

MARJ: I see now that it’s so easy to tell myself I believe all these things, and when I watch her suffer, it’s just very hard....

ELIAS: Quite, and this you may refer to our previous session this day and the discussion therein, for this is a very similar situation in expression, and many, many individuals incorporate a very similar type of action, for you hold these beliefs en masse.

Therefore, be recalling what I have expressed to Inez. Turn your attention to self and allow yourself to be accepting and trusting of self, and this shall be creating of an automatic byproduct to be accepting of the other individual in what they choose to be creating, for this IS her choice.

This is not to say that you may not incorporate emotion as you draw yourself into interaction with this individual. This is not to say that you need be assuming similar creations within your focus, or that you need be incorporating hurtfulness to yourself in sympathy for this individual. This is also not to say that you do not incorporate affection or love for this individual, and that you may not express an emotional quality in relation to this individual.

What I am expressing to you is, these are very different expressions in acceptance than they manifest as in a lack of acceptance and in a judgment.

MARJ: Okay, so in other words, if I turn to self in the moment, then I can create new probabilities, and that should ease some of this?

ELIAS: Yes. Recognize in the moment how you move your attention outside of self. Allow yourself to practice and to notice, and recognize how you move your attention outside of self and how you hold your attention upon the other individual, not within self.

MARJ: Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

MARJ: Joanne wants me to ask you one other thing. Let me see if I can phrase this real fast for you. I’m me, I’m Grady, and I have other focuses in this time frame, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARJ: There are other aspects of me, and possibly other probable selves, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARJ: If one of my other focuses, et cetera, was to hear about you and have a phone session with you, do you tell them that they are me, they are Grady, or they are themselves and they are Grady?

ELIAS: If they are inquiring as to an essence name, I may be offering the essence name.

MARJ: And so each one of my other focuses are not necessarily Grady?

ELIAS: Yes, they shall be the same essence, and were another individual of this essence to be incorporating an interaction with myself and inquiring as to an essence name, I would be offering of this essence name as the same.

MARJ: Okay, they’re me or they’re them? Do you understand what I’m saying? (Laughing)

ELIAS: They are themself uniquely, as you are yourself uniquely.

MARJ: We are of each other because we are of the same essence?

ELIAS: Be remembering of our discussion within our group interaction, in which you participated objectively with myself and other individuals, and my expression of the differences of attention, but the whole of self. Your toe is your toe. It is not your finger, but it is you.

MARJ: Gotcha! Okay. We were slinging this around one night and saying, well, is Mary Brown Mary Brown, or is Mary Brown me?

ELIAS: You are the same body. (Laughter) You are....

MARJ: Okay!

ELIAS: You are different expressions of attention, but you are the same body, in a manner of speaking.

MARJ: In likeness to the person who is reading the book on the street corner.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARJ: That was from our group session. (Reference #486, 10/16/99-2)

ELIAS: Yes.

MARJ: Thank you again.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

I express to you all this day, in tremendous affection and anticipation of our next meeting, au revoir!

ALL: Au revoir!

TED: Great balls of energy to you!

Elias departs at 3:28 PM.


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