Elias Transcripts – Session 1601, Sunday, August 01, 2004

INNA: She has an impression of a tile. She hasn’t shown me a picture, but she asks if it’s a tile from The City. She had an impression of a snake and something related to Tumold.

ELIAS: Yes, and you may express to her to be playful with her impressions, and perhaps she may offer herself the action of this tile, what it does.

INNA: This next one, I’d like to ask about my son, Mischa/Bischa. I never asked about his orientation.

ELIAS: And your impression?

INNA: Is he soft?

ELIAS: Intermediate.

INNA: No kidding! I wouldn’t have thought... He asked me to ask you why he started feeling shy. He used to be more social with other kids – he’s 15 years old – but now he feels shy, and it’s a problem to fit in and communicate. So his question is why.

ELIAS: That is associated with his orientation. Generally speaking, individuals that incorporate this orientation as small ones are more open, but as they progress in age, so to speak, they begin to express this orientation more strongly. One of the automatic expressions that most individuals incorporating the orientation of intermediate generate is an automatic shield.

Many times objectively they are not entirely aware that they are generating this action of shielding themselves. These individuals incorporate a tremendous passion, and that passion in a manner of speaking generates a type of fear of their own expressions. They begin to realize that they perceive differently than common individuals, and therefore they begin also to recognize the strength of their own passion, but that generates a fear, for they are unaware objectively of how to channel that energy.

INNA: He’s been confused the last couple years. Is he emotional focus, too?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: He probably feels more, too.

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: He likes to talk, he used to be very social, and now...

ELIAS: What may be helpful to this individual is to allow himself not to compare, to accept his own difference and to recognize that that is natural to him. There are other individuals that incorporate that orientation; he is not the only individual within your reality. In this, how he perceives is entirely acceptable, and how he expresses is acceptable, for it is natural to himself. It may be easier to be expressing an acceptance of himself if he is not generating comparisons of other individuals.

INNA: He wants to know how to make people, meaning his friends, to take him differently, to communicate with him differently. He says sometimes they make fun of him. It just started happening now. How do I explain to a teenager acceptance? I gave him some transcripts to read on accepting himself; I don’t know if he read them.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and I may express to you that he is quite capable of understanding in similar manner to an adult. In this, what is significant is that what he is drawing to himself is a reflection of his perception of himself that he does not fit, therefore he is different, and he views that difference as bad and unacceptable. Therefore, what he reflects to himself is ridicule.

If he is allowing himself to be accepting of his own natural expressions and of his perception, and allowing himself to be playful and not be incorporating such seriousness, those interactions shall change and become more playful rather than hurtful. The reason they are perceived as hurtful is that he is receiving that energy as a reflection of what he is projecting outward. This is how he views himself, and that is what generates the hurtfulness. It also is an expression that is generated by denying his own choices, not allowing himself his own choices and to be expressing himself. That is denying his own energy. That also creates this feeling of hurtfulness.

INNA: So it would be helpful for him to read about intermediate orientation?

ELIAS: Yes. If the individual understands more of their own expressions and understands that this is a natural expression and that it is not wrong and it is not bad, yes, it is different, but difference is acceptable.

INNA: That’s what I told him! But he wanted to hear from you.

ELIAS: Very well! (Chuckles)

INNA: Am I an emotional focus? I think I am.

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: Do I have a focus now in Odessa? It’s where I came from. But sometimes in dreams I feel like I get information about a current focus in Odessa.

ELIAS: Close to.

INNA: We talked a little bit yesterday about dizziness that I sometimes have. Am I in transition?

ELIAS: No. It is merely shifting.

INNA: I like to be by the ocean, but I always get seasick and dizziness all my life. It’s a strange contradiction. I like to be in the ocean, but if I’m on the ocean I get sick. Why is it like that?

ELIAS: And your impression?

INNA: It’s kind of a fear? I really don’t know.

ELIAS: Partially. It concerns fear of the powerfulness of the energy of the body of water.

INNA: So the ocean, it’s a lot of energy and I do feel it.

ELIAS: Yes, and the strength of it, the power of it and the vastness of it is somewhat overwhelming, and therefore you manifest this physical response. You appreciate this water, but the powerfulness of it is somewhat overwhelming. In that, you are viewing this ocean as this vast entity that is bigger than yourself.

Now; what may be interesting is that your energy is just as powerful and big as that entity of the ocean. In actuality, your energy is bigger than the ocean. You CREATE that body of water. It is an extension of you; it is a projection of you.

INNA: So you overwhelm yourself, actually.

ELIAS: In the recognition, or not the objective recognition, but a sense recognition that all of this is being created by you. You are projecting and creating all of these vast expanses with their display of such immense power.

INNA: One more clarification about my essence name. The first time I got it from Natasha/Nichole, she told me it was Beatrix, with an X, but I heard “Beatrice” when she told me. I got the information differently. So what is...?

ELIAS: The first.

INNA: With an X?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: Do I have a focus named Beatrice?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: Is a focus of Beatrix the dancer Beatrice Portinari?

ELIAS: No, but you do incorporate a focus that is known to that...

INNA: To this person.

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: I had a dream with my boyfriend. He had kind of an eastern focus, where it’s kind of hot out. I was part of a harem, and we had bad sexual... It felt like rape or something like that.

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: I was kind of interested to tell him, but he got upset. I didn’t have a bad feeling, but I felt it was something sexual between us that needs to be resolved right now.

ELIAS: It is not karma, but this is an action that individuals incorporate throughout your reality. You all generate this type of action in which you draw energy from other focuses that are associated or what you would term to be related to what you are generating in this focus. If you are exploring a challenge in this focus, you shall draw energy from other focuses that incorporate experiences that are in some manner associated with what you are generating now in this focus.

The reason that you incorporate that action in drawing that energy is to offer yourself information and to offer yourself more of a strength of your own energy to address to the challenge that you are experiencing in this focus. It is, in actuality, a type of self-supportiveness. It may not necessarily appear in that manner to you initially, for you may view the experience of another focus and it may be unpleasant or what you deem to be negative. But the energy of that focus lends energy to you, and in that offering of energy, it allows you to more clearly explore and evaluate what you are doing now.

INNA: One more question from my son, Mischa. He wonders if he has a focus of like a Mafia guy.

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: He likes these Mafia movies! Is it a famous Mafia guy?

ELIAS: No.

INNA: Italian mafia?

ELIAS: Yes, several.

INNA: Do we have a life together when he was in the Mafia?

ELIAS: One, yes.

INNA: I think it’s time for Daniil, because he will not participate. We will kind of share. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: Very well! You are very welcome, my friend.

(Looking at Daniil) Welcome again!

DANIIL: Thank you. And how are you this day?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

DANIIL: I’m afraid “as always”!

ELIAS: Very well! (Chuckles) (Pause while Dan sets up recording equipment)

INNA: If you’re not ready, I have a quick one. I have a girlfriend, a long time girlfriend, her name is Anna, and she has a son who had an accident and he’s paralyzed now and in a wheelchair. My question to you is should I tell her about this information? Should we help her and her son get to know you or to have a session with you? A couple of times I was thinking about it, but I was thinking maybe I shouldn’t.

ELIAS: It is your choice.

INNA: But would it be helpful to him, in the wheelchair, would it be helpful to him to change his physical condition?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the individual, what the individual wants and what direction the individual is expressing.

INNA: I don’t know. Should I...

ELIAS: It is not a matter of “should.” If you want to share with the other individual, you may. But share without an expectation. You are not offering information to other individuals to change their reality. The most helpfulness that you may express to any individual is to be accepting and therefore be supportive.

Sharing information is a natural action that you all incorporate an inclination for. In that, if you are genuinely sharing without generating an expectation of how the other individual shall receive, you express an openness, and that is responded to in an openness. For the other individual immediately recognizes the type of energy that you are projecting, which is not threatening for it incorporates no expectation. It is merely an offering, and in that offering you express a supportive energy.

I may express to you that I am always available, and I am welcoming of any individual to be engaging conversation with myself. It is their choice.

INNA: I have no information about him. I don’t know if I should start talking about...

ELIAS: Which is what I am expressing to you. It is not a matter of “should.” It is a matter of what you want, whether you WANT to share.

INNA: I would like to be helpful, but sometimes maybe you shouldn’t be helpful. Should I be helpful or shouldn’t I be helpful? Maybe I would be intrusive in being helpful. Maybe it’s his choice to be in a wheelchair.

ELIAS: This is correct, but that does not negate your want to be sharing information. In sharing information, it is the choice of the other individual whether they receive it or not. Therefore, there is no harmfulness or intrusiveness for you to be offering and sharing information. If you are incorporating no expectation of whether the other individual receives or not, you are merely offering a supportive expression of energy, and that is not intrusive.

INNA: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

DANIIL: I had a brief dream or impression where I was a Buddhist monk, chanting. I saw his eyes closed and I heard the chant. Is it a focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Was that in Himalayas somewhere, in Asia somewhere?

ELIAS: Tibet.

DANIIL: Yesterday you mentioned about a focus of mine as a Russian lyricist. Is that (inaudible) by any chance?

ELIAS: No.

DANIIL: I thought that maybe I knew the Russian poet Yesenin, but he’s not a songwriter anyway. Did I meet him?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Is there any reference where I could find the name of the songwriter?

ELIAS: No.

DANIIL: He’s almost like an amateur.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: The last two weeks or so, maybe a month, I have the feeling of anticipation of some kind of change, a change in my life. Is this just a movement in me, my perception, or is it in some way about a big change, or is it just the Shift or something?

ELIAS: It is associated with, one, changes in your energy, which incorporates the potential to be changing some of your reality, which is also associated with shifting. It is also associated with the strength of energy which is being expressed now, associated with this present wave, which is intensifying. Therefore, what you are sensing is the potential of that energy and how it may be affecting you.

In this, I may express to you the suggestion that you be paying attention to balancing. For this energy is very strong, and it generates a very strong potential for polarization and extremes. Therefore, pay attention to your choices and pay attention to what you do, to allow yourself to establish and continue to express balance, which shall avoid many conflicts.

DANIIL: Many describe my energy yesterday as being invisible. I thought that was one of the best expressions I hear from anybody! My guess is, on the limiting side, it may be connected to my exposure, about allowing me to express my own choices. But I also feel there is a positive side to that, a creative side, where I have that flexibility where I can be placed in any country, any situation and still survive, for somehow I adjust to people around me.

ELIAS: Adaptability.

DANIIL: Is this true?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: So I need to strike a balance between allowing myself to express myself and yet enjoying my adaptability.

ELIAS: Correct. That would also be an area in which balance would be important and significant, for this is an area, so to speak, of yourself that also incorporates the potential for extremes.

DANIIL: I can be so extremely invisible that I can disappear! (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Which I may express to you, in that adaptability, that quality that you express also many times is beneficial to you, for it allows you, in a manner of speaking, the ability to blend. In that blending with other individuals, it allows you to listen and to offer yourself information through the action of observance of other individuals.

DANIIL: When I am in a strange company, like I am now, or any company of friends, I have a tendency to disappear into some kind of state where I’m just observing people, listening, feeling. That is my choice of trying to connect or merge or reflect?

ELIAS: Yes. But also be aware of the moments in which you are somewhat shielding, not allowing that exposure, and therefore not necessarily entirely allowing yourself to receive.

DANIIL: That is an on-going balancing.

ELIAS: Balance is an on-going process. It is not an expression that you achieve and thusly it is automatically expressed from henceforward. It is an on-going process that you enact and express in each moment, quite similar to acceptance. It is not an expression that you generate acceptance once and be done with it. It is an on-going expression; it is an on-going choice in the on-going process of your focus.

DANIIL: Is that part of my intent, to place myself in different circumstances where adaptability is required, and by adapting to other people or adapting to myself, expressing different sides of me, I explore myself, I explore other people?

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: That would be a significant part of my intent.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: But there is more to it?

ELIAS: No, that is the identification of your intent, and within that, you incorporate many other specific avenues of expressing that intent in many, many different manners.

DANIIL: I was wondering when I would finally zero in on my intent! (Elias laughs) You actually hinted that in my first session, but there were many hints, so I wasn’t sure!

One side of the exposure problem is when I talk, people don’t really listen to me. It’s almost like the joke where a guy goes to the doctor and says, “People don’t listen to me,” and the doctor doesn’t see him and says, “Next, please!”

So I’m telling myself I’m not really listening to myself and also telling myself I’m not paying attention to other people?

ELIAS: No. First of all, I may express to you that other individuals do listen, but you perceive that they do not. The reason that you perceive that they do not is that you are not valuing what you are communicating. Therefore, your association with it is that whatever you are communicating is not significant enough to be heard. Therefore, you are not valuing your communication, and you reflect that in your perception that other individuals do not listen.

DANIIL: That makes sense. Similarly, when I go along the street, oftentimes people laugh just looking at me, especially children. I produce that comical response. That is also a reflection of how I view myself, I guess?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Myself and Inna, I think, were students of your focus of Elias. Was that an immediate generation after your focus of Elias or a generation even after that? I know that your focus of Elias has seen an immediate generation of students, and I suppose there are other waves also. So the immediate generation?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: We shall investigate then. When I was reading the Castaneda books, he spoke of the intense sense of purpose, and I always wanted that in my life, the sense of purpose. I would usually try to implement that through a shortcut of a sort, where I would try to help other people, friends of mine, where I would feel useful. As long as I felt useful, I felt like life is beautiful and I have a purpose. Then I would lose that sense of purpose because that would finish, and I would be waiting for someone else to help. What is this? Am I limiting myself to primitive ways of feeling that sense of purpose? And is that also a bleed-through from that student of Elias, a shaman’s desire for and cultivation of that sense of purpose and helping?

ELIAS: Yes, and that is associated with beliefs also. In this, I may express to you that your purpose is to explore. Your purpose is to be expressing yourself and exploring this physical reality in experiences. You do that in association with your intent. Therefore, your purpose is always being expressed.

DANIIL: I’m sure you know where I fool myself into feeling some kind of warrior that lives a normal life but knows he’s a warrior. He dominates it and passes it by, but finally somebody knocks on the door and says, “Let’s go!” and all of a sudden he’s alive again, and he puts on his armor and goes off into the sunset somewhere, still fighting. So I guess that’s something I need to get away from.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And you may view yourself as that warrior and embarking upon your quests, but your quest is not to slay windmills. Your quest is to be exploring all of you and challenging yourself with how much of yourself you can express, how much you can expand your adventure of yourself and how much you may expand your expression of yourself in allowing yourself entire freedom.

INNA: Pyramid action – I think about me, Daniil and Natasha, and one more person. Would it be Mischa?

ELIAS: No.

INNA: Would it be Bella?

ELIAS: No.

DANIIL: Is it a person that is still to come, or is it a person...

INNA: Is it somebody that we know now?

ELIAS: No.

INNA: Somebody we don’t know?!

ELIAS: Yes. (Laughter) And you shall incorporate playing with your impressions, and remember what I suggested: play with your communication of imagination.

INNA: Am I the apex of the pyramid?

ELIAS: You wish to be the top? (Laughs)

INNA: I am a final focus and they’re not, so maybe it’s kind of...

ELIAS: I express to you that you are in the position of the base. (Chuckles)

INNA: So it is somebody who is still to come?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: I’m just observing and I don’t even know what the pyramid is all about. I thought it was the foundation for your work in relation to early participants of the forum.

ELIAS: There are many pyramid actions.

INNA: Is it somebody who participates in the Elias forum?

ELIAS: No.

INNA: No?! Oh...

ELIAS: (Chuckles) This may be a fun game for you to be investigating, a treasure hunt.

DANIIL: Once we meet that person, will we feel some energy together?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: If I meet that person first, I will feel a connection. But when we meet, all four of us, we shall feel somehow differently?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: And that level of energy will rise?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: And there is one other person that will be a fourth for the pyramid? (Elias nods; slight pause)

Anything you want to ask us, to talk about?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It is your choice, my friend!

INNA: Do I have a focus like Aida in Egypt? When I saw a show, not the opera but a contemporary show, something moved me.

DANIIL: So was I, by the opera.

ELIAS: You do incorporate focuses in that culture.

DANIIL: When you said North Africa yesterday, that was Egypt?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: So the question is do I have a chapter focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: Is it the Religious book?

ELIAS: Yes, and also the Shift book.

DANIIL: And I probably too participate in the Shift book and the Religious book?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Do I always imitate the focuses of Inna or...? (Laughter)

INNA: In Mexico, when you said I was a student, was I male or female?

ELIAS: And your impression?

INNA: Male.

ELIAS: Correct.

INNA: I don’t imagine myself being male. Do I have more female focuses?

ELIAS: Yes, but not much.

INNA: I feel so much female!

ELIAS: For you are, in this focus! (Laughter)

DANIIL: Was I male?

ELIAS: In that focus? Yes.

INNA: So we were like friends?

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: So no sex?

ELIAS: Ah, and that would be disturbing, would it not! (Much laughter) I may assure you, you do incorporate some of those types of focuses also! (Laughs)

DANIIL: I have a friend, Alexandra; her essence name is Beccha. She is about to give birth to a son, a baby, and she is in the process of choosing a name. I was curious as to just leave her alone or try to ask you for the essence name or the focus name.

ELIAS: Ah, but the focus name is a choice, and therefore that is an agreement between the essence that is entering and the essences that it has chosen to participate with.

DANIIL: What would be the essence name of the entering essence?

ELIAS: Essence name, Ester.

DANIIL: E-S-T-E-R?

ELIAS: Correct.

DANIIL: My friend Felix, essence name Vaudi, I relayed your message about being gentle with himself and about acceptance. His situation is still what I would identify as difficult for him. Is he on the way to finding a balance, or what message can you give him?

ELIAS: That would be the suggestion that I would express, to be paying attention, to be incorporating more of a balance and to be aware of how very strong energy is, especially within this time framework, and that he may be easily creating extremes even associated with what he does not want. Therefore, it is quite important to be paying attention to what he is doing and also what he is communicating to himself. For at times he is aware of communicating to himself impressions and emotional communications, and ignoring them. It is significant to not be ignoring those communications.

DANIIL: He’s ignoring emotional communications?

ELIAS: And impressions at times also.

DANIIL: Is he a thought focus?

ELIAS: Political.

DANIIL: He is interested in different materials, and I was trying to introduce him in your material. But he’s very cautious, having some other materials incorporated including shamans, and he’s trying to find his own way.

ELIAS: You may express to him I do not discount any other avenues. They are all valid. (Chuckles)

DANIIL: We are starting to read the Kris material, and of course there is cautiousness there, but Inna thought that it’s all a part of the overall plan, a general plan, where your style is a little different. In my opinion, it’s more practical and on the level of each individual. Kris’ emphasis seems to be on some very general, (inaudible) concepts.

INNA: About the clusters, you know? He was talking about the cluster Gaura. Do we have focuses in this cluster?

DANIIL: Inna is very into creating other worlds. She wants to be in a different cluster! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Yes.

INNA: He said it’s a cluster with a lot of education about how to create lives, universes – how to seed lives, including our universe, including our nine families being seeded by this cluster.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. I may express to you, I do not invalidate the information that is being offered. I may incorporate different terms and I may incorporate what you would term to be a different agenda, but that is not to say that other informations are not valid. They may not necessarily be incorporating an attention to less distortion, but that may not necessarily be incorporated in the agenda of another essence. Also remember that whatever information I offer, although incorporating the least distortion, it automatically becomes distorted as you receive it, for you filter this through your beliefs, and therefore, there is always an incorporation of distortion. It is merely a matter of which direction each essence incorporates an attention with, what is more of an interest to each essence, and therefore that motivates what the essence offers in information.

Also, different individuals within your reality are drawn to different types of information. It is all valid, and it is all moving in the direction of this shift and associated with this shift. It is merely different offerings of information to connect with and encourage different individuals in manners in which they shall allow.

INNA: So it complements.

ELIAS: Yes. It is merely different expressions, but it is all moving in the direction of the incorporation of this shift, offering information concerning this shift, which is any information which expands your awareness and widens your awareness.

INNA: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

INNA: It was a pleasurable meeting for us.

ELIAS: And I shall anticipate our next meeting. I shall be offering my energy to you in the interim time framework, and perhaps encouraging you to be playful! I express to you, as always, tremendous affection and great friendship. To you each in fondness, au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 58 minutes.

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