the action of transition
ELIAS: “I have attempted, within this forum previously, to be expressing to you elements of transition and concepts concerning what you view to be death. (1) In this, the objective is to be allowing you a wider perception, and allowing you to be letting go of fearfulness of this action or event within consciousness; for there is no element of fearfulness, in actuality. Therefore, it is unnecessary for you to be holding this emotion and perception. Therefore also, at times, when the opportunity has presented itself naturally to be addressing more information concerning this subject, it is helpful; not only to the individual personally experiencing affectedness, but also for you all, for your better understanding.” [session 107, July 28, 1996]
ELIAS: “The subject of transition is lengthy and complicated. It is also quite individual within the actualization and movement. There are some commonalities that we may discuss that individuals may experience, although even within these there are variances; for each focus experiences different elements and events within transition.
“Initially, I will address to belief systems that individuals hold; not necessarily within this group present physically, but within individuals who are privy to this information.
“As you choose to disengage physical focus you enter into an area of consciousness, an action, which we term transition. I have stated many times that the time framework, in your terms, is quite different from the time framework of the individual experiencing transition nonphysically. Therefore, initially I will express to you that within your physical time framework that you recognize, it may appear to you that an individual may continue within this area of transition for very many years. This is not to be of concern. Therefore, it is unnecessary to concern yourselves with the thought process of acquiring a method to be helpful to these individuals to be moving them through transition more quickly. This would be what many individuals within their belief systems term to be helpful to individuals on the ‘other side,’ guiding them into the light. This is a belief system. Each individual engages the action of transition for the amount of time, in your terms, that is necessary for them to be accomplishing addressing to their belief systems and disengaging themselves from these belief systems, to be moving within consciousness. Within nonphysical action of transition, the individual does not experience time in the same manner as do you.
“We have spoken previously of individuals physically focused and also essences nonphysically focused holding the intent and action of helpfulness to some individuals after their point of what you term death, to be leading them into action. This is different from individuals engaging transition fully within its natural flow. Some individuals, as we have stated previously, move into a disengagement of physical focus and do not believe that they have disengaged. Some individuals become confused in this manner, holding very tightly to objective consciousness. In this, they prevent their own movement within the action of transition. Therefore, essences are engaged to be helpful in moving these individuals into the action of transition.
“Just as I have stated previously, your belief systems are based in truths. They are based in known realities of nonphysical actions. They are distorted into belief systems. Therefore, you hold ideas such as rescuing individuals and moving them, after the point of death, into the cosmic light. Individuals engaging transition automatically move into areas of confrontation with held belief systems. These are not applicable within nonphysical focus. Therefore, they are attended to within the action of transition.
“As I have stated, each individual engages this action uniquely, in accordance with their individual perceptions and belief systems. Therefore, the action may be what you think of as longer, within your time framework, or shorter.
“Some individuals accomplish partial action of transition within physical focus. This has been an occurrence throughout your history. This is not a new concept. This is not a new action. Each individual which experiences senility throughout your history has been engaging the action of transition within physical focus. This is continued within nonphysical areas of consciousness after death. In such cases, the action of transition, to your way of thinking within a time framework, shall be accomplished much more quickly.
“Be remembering that as you disengage a focus you may choose to be remanifesting; but you also, as the you that you recognize, do not repeat the action of physical manifestation, for you are not used parts! Each manifestation is new. Therefore, within the action of transition a certain element always attends to the complete engagement of belief systems; for as I have stated this evening, they are not applicable within nonphysical focus, and as you shall continue within nonphysical focus they are of no use to you any longer. At the same ‘time,’ another aspect of you which you have chosen to remanifest may hold to these established belief systems.
“We have stated previously that as you remanifest, you hold belief systems; this being a basis for another belief system that you hold, within your ideas of reincarnation and karma. These belief systems are distorted, but they hold your idea of fact in that you do carry established belief systems within remanifestation. Therefore, within what you term to be a ‘final manifestation’ you engage the belief systems within transition of all focuses. Individuals engaging the action of transition within a final manifestation shall experience much more intensely and differently than individuals choosing to be experiencing transition and also choosing remanifestation, which you may do. Within a final focus, you engage the totality of your focuses. Therefore, if choosing the action of transition within this physical manifestation, you shall also be opening and allowing for bleed-throughs, these being of all of your other focuses. You may not connect with every focus, but you shall connect with many. There is much more information of this subject.” [session 158, March 16, 1997]
ELIAS: “In engaging these actions, especially the action of transition, it is pointless for you to be experiencing these elements and engaging this essence [of Elias] if you are not understanding what you are doing. If you are engaging transition within physical focus and you are not understanding the action that you are engaging you shall create senility at very young ages, for your objective consciousness must understand what you are engaging, must be informed, and must be allowed the opportunity to manipulate within this action. If it is not afforded these elements, it shall disengage and you shall experience what you view as senility. This is not the point!
“The point is that you have chosen to be objectively aware. You have chosen to be engaging these actions within consciousness with much awareness and conscious, intentional movement. In this, you not only benefit yourselves but you also lend energy tremendously to the accomplishment of the shift, for what you understand and incorporate is understood subjectively and incorporated within consciousness by your counterparts and aspects and all that are connected within consciousness, which is all.” [session 162, April 06, 1997]
ELIAS: “The base line of action of accomplishment within transition and this shift in consciousness are different, for within one there is an acceptance but continuation of belief systems, and within the other there is an action of shedding belief systems and also disengaging objective awareness. Therefore, there are some elements of these two actions that differ greatly, in your terms, but in other areas, there are some actions that are incorporated similarly.
“Many of the experiences that you may hold, if engaging transition within physical focus, may be quite similar or the same as many of the experiences that you shall hold in widening your awareness and engaging this shift in consciousness.
“Once this shift in consciousness has been completed, so to speak, in your terms, the actions of transition and of this shift in consciousness shall be in many areas quite the same, and you may not be distinguishing within the two. They also shall be quite common. This shall be your reality, in a manner of speaking. Therefore, the action of transition shall not appear strange or outside of your norm, so to speak, but shall be accepted as officially accepted behavior, for you all shall be engaged in very similar experiences.” [session 377, March 23, 1999]
ELIAS: “The point of transition is not merely to shed beliefs associated with any particular physical dimension, but also to shed the objective awareness, for it is unnecessary. Objective awareness is generated only in association with physical dimensions, with physical realities. Perception is a tool of the objective awareness; therefore it also is not necessary. In nonphysical areas of consciousness there is no perception. It is associated merely with physical realities. But that is a strong configuration of energy and is not immediately shed merely that you choose to disengage. That is what I am expressing to you. That is also a process that generates a beginning.” [session 1474, November 23, 2003]
CATHY: “Okay. How about some more information on Regional Area 3?
ELIAS: (Grinning at Cathy) In which direction would you be wishing to move into Regional Area 3?
CATHY: I didn’t know I had an option of directions. All I know is that it’s a transition place. I can’t remember much more than that, at this particular second.
ELIAS: And you are wishing information of transition? (Grinning)
ELIAS: (Grinning at Vicki) We may write a book on this subject! Transition may be a manifestation, within non-physical focus, of anything that you believe. (Pause) That was quite good! Very concise and to the point! (To Vicki) Write this down!” (Pause) [session 64, January 03, 1996]
ELIAS: “Good evening; and you are wishing of which subject matter this evening? (Pause)
JIM: Curiosity of what we were discussing prior to your arrival, with essence agreements that seem to be in people’s lives, as in this one that was setting fires in a woman’s house, and one that seemed to follow a family around, and perhaps what these could be about?
ELIAS: I will express to you, first of all, essences are not ‘Earth bound.’ There is no situation in which an essence is connected to what you would term the ‘Earth plane’ against their will. Essences do experience transition, and in this state, there are times when they may align their energy more closely to physical focus. This is not to say that their essence is ‘bound’ to physical focus, for their essence is removed from physical focus, and is incorporated into the landscape of their belief systems. Their energy may be connected, more aligned, with physical focus. Therefore, you may term this to be a residual energy that may, for a ‘time,’ remain connected within certain areas, or connected with certain individuals.
I have expressed to you previously that you incorporate energy areas within your living space. You deposit energy into areas of your space that surrounds you. You identify and connect with certain areas within physical space. In this, it may be, as I have expressed, a corner of your room. While experiencing transition, you may identify with an area within physical focus, within energy. Your essence will not be incorporated there. There is no ‘ghost’ residing there, but there may be ‘lingering energy.’ Energy is always in motion. Dependent upon the experience that you may incorporate within transition, this energy may also be affected and may move in unusual ways. This is not to say that each time you experience strange phenomenon within physical focus that you cannot explain, that this is connected with an essence within transition; for many times, as I have expressed, you yourselves, within the energy of your essence and within your consciousness, may project outward physical expressions of your own emotional state. You may separate elements of your energy, and project them outward, and be affecting.
Many individuals view this type of phenomenon as ‘possession ,’ or as ‘haunting’ elements. Your physical instruments will register definite energy rises, but they are not explaining to you the origin of this energy. You speculate that this energy is originating from another non-physical entity. This is not always the case. There are many times in which you may project outward yourself, and create this type of phenomenon. Individuals have been known to speak within foreign languages, also explaining this to be the phenomenon of another entity possessing their physical form. This is incorrect. I have stated, many times: essences are not intrusive. Therefore, what you draw upon in these instances are other focuses, which you allow to bleed through into your present, or what you view to be your present consciousness, allowing a merging, and therefore expressing elements to which you normally would have no knowledge of.
This is also not to say that sometimes essences within transition do not affect physical focus, for sometimes they do. You may interact, within your ‘psychic games,’ with other essences. You may interact with those in transition, or those not in transition. When action is expressed in what you term to be an undesirable manner, it is most likely either yourself creating this through your consciousness, or residual energy of an essence within transition. Belief systems are very affecting of all of this phenomenon.” [session 80, March 20, 1996]
JOSH: “There was a young woman who died that tragic night (2), and I was wondering if there was any way you may be able to bring her into play.
ELIAS: I will express to you that within my focus, I do not interact with essences within the area of consciousness of transition. This is presently where, so to speak, this individual incorporates an action of experience. There are individuals that you may speak to, if you are wishing to seek them out, who do incorporate also this phenomenon, (referring to channeling) but essences within non-physical focus choose their interaction. You, when choosing to become non-physically focused, may choose which direction, so to speak, if you are wishing to incorporate a direction, that you will be moving in. In this, some essences choose to be incorporated more closely to what you view presently as physical focus. In this, they interact through an area of consciousness, Regional Area 2, which translates interaction from the area of consciousness where this ... ‘action’ is occurring within experience. Therefore, you may encounter individuals who may tap into information, so to speak, and offer this information to you.I will also explain to you that these individuals do not actually, in actuality, speak directly to these individuals within the state of transition. Those that they speak to are other essences relaying information for them; for within consciousness and essence, all things are known to all essences. Therefore, other essences incorporate the action of delivering information to the individual on what you term to be ‘this side.’ In actuality, there are no ‘sides,’ for all consciousness is one. It is only your perception that is different. Therefore, I say to you, I may access some information, but I do not interact with these particular individuals or essences. You may investigate, and you may find another individual that may interact with an essence who will accommodate you in this area.” [session 86, April 14, 1996]
ELIAS: “I shall offer helpfulness to Dosh [Rex], in recent experience of personal focus. The individual to which you hold concern is, so to speak, fine. I shall explain that within the element of transition from one focus to another focus, or from one area of consciousness into another area, offers what you would perceive, within your time framework, to be a slight time span of peacefulness, apart from belief systems. This would be an automatic response, so to speak, of essence, offering a reprieve, temporarily, for the sojourn of the consciousness before engaging belief systems which may be attached to the preexisting, so to speak, focus.
Therefore, within a brief time period ensuing subsequent to what you view to be death, there occurs a peacefulness and a quietness, allowing an accumulation of energy which has been scattered during the beginning of transition. Within this time period, the individual experiences only peacefulness. There is no awareness of form, or even of consciousness, only of peace; being in actuality quite similar to what you view as a dream state, to which you do not remember. Within your dream state, many of you do not realize yourself. In this same manner, within the beginning area of transition, the individual also does not experience or hold an awareness of experiencing the self. In this, they hold an allowance of self to be experiencing complete peacefulness; an undistorted experience. Therefore, be joyful!
REX: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I have attempted, within this forum previously, to be expressing to you elements of transition and concepts concerning what you view to be death. In this, the objective is to be allowing you a wider perception, and allowing you to be letting go of fearfulness of this action or event within consciousness; for there is no element of fearfulness, in actuality. Therefore, it is unnecessary for you to be holding this emotion and perception. Therefore also, at times, when the opportunity has presented itself naturally to be addressing more information concerning this subject, it is helpful; not only to the individual personally experiencing affectedness, but also for you all, for your better understanding.” [session 107, July 28, 1996]
ELIAS: “As you enter physical focus, you are what you would term to be still slightly defocused. You are moving from an area of non-physical consciousness into an area of physical manifestation. This action, within itself, incorporates transition; for each time that you move into another area of consciousness, you must engage a transitional action. All of these elements are familiar to you within non-physical, as you approach entry into physical manifestation.
As a very small one, you are very aware of non-physical elements. You are continuing within a transitional state, acclimating yourself into a new awareness of consciousness. In this, you acclimate yourselves to your environment, and to the motion of consciousness. This includes a time element. It also includes manipulation of energy differently, for you manipulate energy to be creating physically; just as when you view yourselves to engage the action of death, in your terms, you also move into an area of transition, for you are acclimating yourself to a new environment. Therefore, as you enter, you are aware of non-physical elements. Your reality is expressed more closely in terms of what you now view to be your dream state, for this is what is familiar to you. As you disengage physical focus, you bring with you what is familiar to you. You do not die and automatically move into a cloud-like area with no body, floating through nothingness, knowing all things! (Humorously)
CATHY: Why??? (Laughter)
ELIAS: You move with the awareness of the elements of consciousness that are familiar to you. Therefore, you move with the consciousness of physical body, and with the objective focus of consciousness.
As you enter physical focus, the action of creating is unfamiliar to you. Even though you have experienced physical focus within other manifestations, you divorce yourselves from these remembrances in allowing yourselves to focus singularly, from what you would term to be the beginning, upon the creation of this individual focus.
Also realize that the aspect of consciousness that enters any given focus is not ‘used.’ It is not remanifesting as a used product. It is a new creation. It is you; and although you view that you hold past and future focuses, and I express to you that you hold simultaneous focuses, as I have stated, they are you, but they are not you; for you are uniquely you, new and becoming, not already produced, not already used within another focus, not another version of you; for within your uniqueness, there is only one version of you.
Therefore, as you enter newly into your chosen manifestation, you enter bringing with you an awareness of memory. The memory that you hold is, in your terms, immediate. The immediate memory is non-physical; a realization of the extent of your creative abilities. As adults, you view within children this aspect as imagination. In actuality, this is a knowing of reality. Children experiment with consciousness and creativity, for they are learning how to manipulate energy within physical terms. They are learning the boundaries that they will be setting for themselves within physical focus. As they grow, they learn more efficiently how to set these boundaries. These are not negative terms. They are highly specialized movements of consciousness.
View within your exercise the difficulty incorporated of separating your senses, and manipulating individually these senses while holding your focus. This is a highly specialized motion within manipulation of physical energy. In this same respect, you learn to specialize within physical focus. Therefore, you direct your attention more and more increasingly. (3)
... Within your desire to be understanding the motion of transition away from physical focus, as you would term this, you reinforce your belief systems of discounting yourself, for you view your specialization as ‘bad.’ You wish to yourselves, and oft times to each other, that you would hold the awareness of a child. This wishing is discounting of your accomplishment in specialization of your focus.
Individuals within this company have chosen to be widening awareness within physical focus, in anticipation of transition. In this, information shall be offered and has been offered, for helpfulness; but just as the unplayed notes are essential to the melody of the symphony, so are all of the aspects of creation that you create essential to you.
These are important concepts for you to contemplate, for the introduction of counterparts will challenge the importance of your individual selves. There are many aspects to this subject of counterparts. They are not limited to your own essence. Counterparts intertwine throughout consciousness. There are no boundaries or barriers within the creation of counterparts. Therefore, there are many aspects and different actions of these elements of consciousness; this being the reason that I choose presently to preface our movement into this subject matter with information of the importance and validity of yourself. I do not express to you lightly that you are the center of the universe, for you are! Therefore, remember this as we move into areas that may create defocusing, within your awareness of you.” [session 126, September 29, 1996]
JENE: “I have a question. I had an impression this afternoon that a very close fragment of essence responded to a slip of the tongue, so to speak, with joy and creativity and licking my face all over, when I addressed him as Scottie. Is there a familiarity in his consciousness with that essence?
ELIAS: (Accessing) Within the manner that you are posing this question, no. Within consciousness, an essence may choose, within the area of transition, to be interacting with many different aspects of consciousness within physical focus. The energy direction within transition is scattered. It is undirected, for what you may term to be the most part; for these individuals do hold direction and may be holding attention within certain areas, but generally, the energy is quite scattered and not focused. In this, there may be alignments or attachments to a receptive energy which may be physically focused.
This occurs within the consciousness of creatures many times, for your creatures are less discriminating and are open to the availability of other energies, and recognizing of this. You may not always be recognizing of what they recognize, but they also serve as beacons, so to speak, for interaction many times. Therefore, one which has learned to be directing of energy to be creating of specific contact may choose this vehicle in energy; the creature not being the vehicle, the energy being the vehicle, lest we misunderstand of any physical manifestation being labeled as a vessel or a vehicle, which they are not; but the energy being distributed may be the vehicle to which the contact or intersection may be recognized. Therefore, essentially, yes, You are correct in your assessment within interaction, but it is not a resulting of an aspect of this individual.
JENE: Will this energy hold in this particular focus, or since it is so scattered and that was recognizable, could it decide to widen, move on while still in transition, and no longer encompass this particular essence or this particular animal?
ELIAS: All essences, all individuals within transition are in constant motion and continually becoming, as are you; therefore, in your terms, continually learning or growing. These are very limiting physical terms. They are within a state of widening and becoming. They are in constant motion. Therefore, they shall not continue within any given action indefinitely, in your terms; but you must understand that you focus within a time thickness. You, within physical focus, hold to a time element which is sequential. Within non-physical focus, there is no sequential time element. Therefore, what you view to be an ongoing time period is not. It is only relative to your perception within physical focus.” [session 133, November 17, 1996]
ELIAS: “… I shall also offer to you that within a final manifestation, you may sometimes hold an awareness of initiating focus, for you are aware of all of your other focuses, for you are intersecting. This is dependent upon your desire and intent within your final manifestation. As your intent encompasses a desire to be accomplishing transition within physical focus, you allow yourself the intersection of all of your focuses, which you also allow more of an influencing and knowing of all of these focuses. Therefore, you may also feel the feeling of the initiating focus. It may bleed through and show itself. Therefore, you may become confused, expressing you are experiencing your first focus and your last focus; although you have no first or last! You have initiating and discontinuing, for there is no beginning or ending! (Grinning)
This would be your explanation for holding both knowings or feelings. Within your initiating focus, you will not hold an awareness of your final focus. The feeling shall appear different. This also is a very creative action within physical focus, for you endow yourselves with feelings of each focus. Those focuses remanifesting, which are not initiating or final, know that they are continuing. The manifestation which is initiating feels new. It feels as if it is a blank slate. It holds no memory. A final manifestation may feel the feeling of the initiating manifestation, but also will feel its finality. It knows it is disengaging physical focus. It prepares for non-physical. Therefore, you always know where you are within your focuses. You are not such a mystery to yourselves! (Grinning)
JENE: I have a question. Within this physical focus, the thickness of a time dimension we’re very aware of, and it is sequential. Within transition, what is the escape button, or the desire or intent for remanifestation or for disengagement? Is there an educational period of time that we experience the body consciousness, subjective objective consciousness, All-That-Is? (4) When that takes place, do we then choose, which everything is a choice, the desire and intent to remanifest? Or ...
ELIAS: This enters into a difficult area, for you continue to think in terms of reincarnation. Remanifestation is not reincarnation. They are entirely different elements, for there is no reincarnation. You also think in terms of sequence, which this also holds no relevance within non-physical terms.
Therefore, your questions lead to a direction of asking, (humorously) ‘If I die, I move to an area of confusion and chaos. I await a small time period within this confusion. Great masters and teachers approach me and express truths to me. Then I am knowledgeable, and choose to be born.’ No! You do not move in these terms. You are a new creation. You do not reincarnate!
CHRIS: So what we refer to as our past lives are just other selves?
ELIAS: (To Christy) They are other focuses.
(To Jene) Now, in continuing with your question; you discontinue a physical focus. As Lawrence [Vicki] has inquired, even in this discontinuation of physical focus, there is significance in your action. Therefore, if you are choosing to expire as you sleep and you are choosing to be buried within your Earth, your choice within transition shall be different than your choice within transition had you chosen to be consumed, or to be consumed by fire, or to be vaporized by your atomic weapons, or to be poofing away! Your choice of disengagement of physical focus is quite influencing of your choice of transition. In this, you continue.
There are many choices that you may engage within the area of transition. If you are enamored with this cycle of physical manifestation, you may choose within this area of transition to fragment, and you may choose to focus the entirety of your essence within physical focus. Therefore, you shall be born again. If you choose, you may engage aspects of your consciousness that you may continue within physical focus, as other aspects move into other areas of consciousness. If you choose, you may disengage physical focus; at which point, as has been stated, it then is the choice of each individual focus to align or fragment, or other actions.
VICKI: Well, what happened with Lydia and Tweety when Tweety was born? (5) So what happened to the personality of Lydia?
ELIAS: The personality of Lydia was not assimilated. It was not swallowed by Tweety! Aspects of consciousness merge between Lydia and Tweety to form the manifestation, the focus, in agreement and cooperation. Other aspects of Tweety and of Lydia continue within personality, within their own individual directions. The merged aspects of consciousness create a new personality aspect of the joined focuses.
VICKI: So that would be where the ‘new’ comes in, but then aspects of Lydia and Tweety continue?
ELIAS: Correct; not losing their individuality or integrity.
(Here, we pause a few minutes for a tape change)
ELIAS: As you think in terms of yourselves as individual entities, you think singularly. You think you move from one focus into another focus as you are, but you are more than you recognize. You view only a portion of yourself. You think in terms of your objective self, and you think that this is the entity that moves through consciousness into ‘places’ of areas of consciousness. (Humorously)
You move from your physical ‘plane,’ being the individual person that you are, into a non-physical transitional ‘plane,’ which naturally is a place, for you must occupy a place! And from this place of transitional plane, you move to a ‘higher’ plane of more encompassing knowledge, and possibly to a teaching master such as I! (Laughter) Very incorrect!
You are much more than what you objectively perceive. There are no planes. There are no levels. You do not move ‘higher and higher,’ moving into your ‘heavenly realm.’ You occupy your heavenly realm presently! You already are your highest expression! You only move into different manifestations of experiences.
... You are correct that your assessment of time element is quite different, and hold no meaning within the area of transition. Excuse; holds little meaning, for within transition there is slight recognition of time elements as a continuance of connection to physical focus, and also, within a movement of belief systems there may be an identification of time element also. In actuality, the experience of true time dimension does not exist, but the experience of feeling time element may. In this, the individual may also project energy. This is not the same action as placing, so to speak, or allowing an aspect of consciousness to be residing within another element.
JENE: So that’s a temporary experience of energy.
ELIAS: It is a movement of energy. It is an attempt at communication. Many essences within individual focuses experiencing transition attempt, within scattered energy, to be communicating, or what they view to be creating an intersection with physical focus. They may accomplish, although it is very undirected. Within your science fiction, it is as if they are spraying their ray gun, and where the ray hits is their unintentional target! It may be close to their desired focus, but they are not quite adept at focusing energy into this time element thickness intentionally. Therefore, it is undirected, although they are quite accomplished at being close!” [session 136, November 24, 1996]
JENE: “I don’t even know how to form the question, so please just tap in, will you, and answer? (Laughing) I have this interest in transition and am curious as to the criteria for movement in transition, either for refocus or non-focus. Is there is a criteria? I’m thinking about Scott. Scott’s been gone eleven/twelve years, and the energy is still scattered. I still experience his energy in a scattered kind of direction in different areas. Is there a criteria for movement in transition? Is there, I’m gonna use this word, a time frame? Is there a ‘what’ that moves during transition? Do you know what I’m trying to say?
ELIAS: There is no time frame.
JENE: Right. Well, I know that, but that’s the only way I know to explain what I want to know at this moment.
ELIAS: Therefore, you view a time frame. You express eleven/twelve years, which appears to you to be a significant piece of time. Within the area of transition of non-physical focus, this does not appear the same; although objective awareness is still held to different degrees. Therefore, a time element or sensation of time is also still identified, [but] differently than you identify, for there also is an influx of simultaneous time. Past and future overlap, but as individuals continue to hold objective awareness, their understanding of simultaneous time is not what you would term to be complete. Therefore, they view a movement of time partially, differently than you, but they also view the overlapping of past and future. This may be confusing.
Now; within your time element, as comparison, I have expressed to you that your time element is a slowing within consciousness, creating a thickness which is developed for your experience. Within non-physical consciousness, this time aspect would then appear to be accelerated. Therefore, what you view to be eleven/twelve years may be eleven/ twelve minutes within the awareness of the individual, for it is quite accelerated.
As to a method of movement, there is no method. Each individual focus experiences transition individually, for you each address your own belief systems. This also is dependent upon your desire and intent within choice of remanifestation or non-remanifestation.
If you are choosing to be not remanifesting, your action shall be different; for if you are choosing remanifestation, it is unnecessary to be completely moving through all belief systems, for you shall continue some belief systems within other focuses.
This is not karma! You are not ‘carrying bad elements with you.’ You are continuing to hold to belief systems, as you are choosing to not be discontinuing your cycle of physical focus.
Within the choice of non-remanifestation, the action is different, for you choose to be moving through all physically focused belief systems. This includes not only this dimension and time element, but all of the belief systems of all of your focuses, which may be quite a feat, dependent upon your focuses.
If you are focused physically within many dimensions simultaneously, you hold many belief systems. You also simultaneously attempt within transition to be, as this individual views, attacking them all; although this would be the more difficult approach, just as you within physical focus are aware that the harder that you try, the harder it is to accomplish. The harder you push, the less you move. In this same respect, if you are viewing all of these focuses and all of these belief systems as needing to be attacked and overcome, you are in effect accomplishing the same motion; pushing against the wall, and not allowing yourself the freedom of movement. (Pause)
In allowance of belief systems, and in allowance and acceptance of all aspects of the objective, without judgment, you accept and you allow yourself the freedom of movement within transition; this being the action also that you engage presently within physical focus, for the action initially of the shift and of transition are very similar. You are widening and accepting belief systems. You are allowing yourselves to be in touch, so to speak, with your other focuses. You are connecting with essence. In this, the action is the same.
The choice is not always chosen at the moment that an individual moves from a particular focus. The choice, sometimes, is made later, in your terms. In many respects, as I have stated previously, many individuals do not understand the area of transition, for they are continuing within their objective awareness. In this, they hold to physical thought. They do not understand the symbolism; the translation. They continue within the belief that the objective thought is all there is within reality. This, as per their choice also, may be requiring of what you term to be a time period for adjustment.
Be remembering of our analogy of birth into physical focus. You, at birth and as a small one, are adjusting within time. You are acclimating to your new environment. Much of the activity that prevails is subjective. Much of your reality is subjective in relation to non-physical, for this is what you remember.
In this same manner, as you move to non-physical in disengagement of physical, you also must acclimate to a different environment. You move into a different area of consciousness that you must blend into. This is what you would term presently as a learned process. In actuality, it is a remembered process. You allow yourselves to remember, but in what you would term to be most cases, this is not an instantaneous occurrence, and is a process, for you choose it to be a process.” [session 137, December 01, 1996]
ELIAS: “I have expressed to you that you do not disengage physical focus, or die, and enter into this blissful world of all-knowingness. You enter an area of transition, in which you carry with you objective thoughts and feelings. I have explained to you that as an infant enters into physical focus, it brings with it within consciousness a continuation of subjective activity, which you interpret as a greater openness of small ones that you lose as you grow. My interpretation shall be different, but this is your interpretation.
In this same manner, I have expressed to you that as you pass into another area of consciousness, you also bring the remembrance of the activity that you are accustomed to. In this, the feelings are enhanced, for they are experienced more purely. These feelings shall not attach themselves to right and wrong identifications. They shall just be. This is not to say that you, within the experience of these torrents of feelings, may not wish to be disengaging many of them, but you shall not attach right and wrong to them. These continue, as belief systems continue, until you move through them, until you widen your awareness and accept them and allow them.
You continue feelings, for you attempt to disallow; this being the reason that you experience joyfulness and happiness briefly and sorrowfulness extensively, for you allow yourself to experience joyfulness. You do not attempt to disallow. Within feelings that you view as bad, you attempt to disallow. You attempt to ‘choke,’ and as you create this action you perpetuate the feeling within consciousness, for you hold it. Within the area of transition, you shall not attach good or bad, right or wrong, to these expressions of feelings. Therefore, you shall allow yourselves to feel them and experience through them. In this, they shall dissipate and they shall not hold their attraction any longer; this being why I have stated to you to not concern yourselves overly with the emotion that you experience presently. This, to you both; for this sadness shall pass if you are allowing yourselves to acknowledge and experience through this emotion, realizing that it is bubbling up as an action of remembrance within the act of transition.
VICKI: And this essence that is in non-physical transition presently is basically incorporating the same action, correct? (6)
VICKI: And this overwhelming feeling that both Michael [Mary] and I have connected with of great loneliness, is that our interpretation?
ELIAS: And this individual’s interpretation also, although it also may be viewed not as an interpretation. It is a perception, but it is also a correct perception, for the identification of the feeling is not attached to yourselves. Within the area and action of transition, the feelings shall be empathically connected with. Therefore, you shall hold a greater awareness of those around you. You shall hold a greater awareness of consciousness and what it feels, and you empathically shall feel this also.
In this, you are not experiencing grieving for yourself. You experience an empathic sensation in connection with individuals focused upon, and you translate that within you. This also, if allowed to be experienced through, may be quite helpful to the individual being connected with empathically; for as you pull to yourself the experience of the feeling empathically of the individual, you may experience through within an allowance and understanding, and this shall be affecting and lessening of the physical experience and the non-physical experience of the other.” [session 142, December 27, 1996]
CAROL: “I have a place, I can’t say place because I know it’s not a place, but I have an experience in what looks like a park-like setting, and I have seen people there before that have transitioned. I saw a friend there and I didn’t know that she had transitioned because she had moved south and I hadn’t seen her in a long time. I could tell from this experience that she had transitioned, and then I investigated and found that indeed she had. Her name was Claudette. I wondered, was that actually a fragment of her essence or her energy or was that her authentic energy? I’m probably not using the correct terms that you’ve been using here, so I’m not sure if I’m making myself clear.
ELIAS: We have spoken previously of what you may encounter within energy and identify of individuals within the action of transition. You may intersect and incorporate a deposit of energy of this individual. You do not intersect the individual themselves, but you may intersect the energy of the individual as an energy deposit within consciousness. You may also connect with another focus, paralleling in cooperation with this focus and with this energy deposit, which may appear to be what you identify as the individual; although in actuality, it is not.
... Every individual upon this planet is a part of this shift. It is an agreement within consciousness. Therefore, all individuals are a part of this shift. Some individuals choose to be instrumental. Some individuals choose to be helpful to other individuals within the action of this shift, in alleviation of trauma. In this, you are one; as many who are drawn to this forum. This individual of whom you speak is helpful within a different direction. Many individuals are helpful within the expression of this shift, but not all are engaged within the same direction. Your personal direction is also in alignment with individuals within this forum. Also, do not be discounting of the action that you engage, for I shall express to you that I shall send ye forth! (Sarcastically, with much laughter) Verily, I say unto you!
CAROL: You’re teasing me, and that’s part of why I wonder sometimes if I should do that, if I should just not do it anymore, be on my own path! (Laughing)
ELIAS: I indeed tease, although I also express truthfulness to you. You have set probabilities within this focus that you are accomplishing. In this, you also are recognizing of the movement within consciousness which is of this shift, and you may be instrumental in helpfulness to other individuals within this action. You have been availed of information that shall be helpful, and you shall continue to receive information that you may utilize to be helpful within the action of this shift.
Be remembering also that much information that you incorporate is also individually directed to be incorporated, for you choose to incorporate this information to be understanding as you engage transition within physical focus; this being an action common to several, not many, but several other individuals within this communication also.
CAROL: In other words, preparing for transition in addition to being involved in the shift? Am I understanding correctly?
ELIAS: Correct. The act of transition may be engaged within physical focus. The act of transition is engaged within physical focus to a great extent. These individuals, yourself among them, choose to be engaging this action of transition within a different probability; not engaging the officially accepted action of senility.” [session 148, January 14, 1997]
NORM: “I have a question. I’m not sure that it would be worth considerable discussion, but I feel that the area of cooperativeness is probably quite important in my life. The relationship between cooperativeness and separateness or individuality, do you have any wise words in regard to that?
ELIAS: You shall present yourself, as you already are aware, with the opportunities to notice what you choose to address. With respect to cooperation and separateness, these are your choice, both; although as you choose to engage widening and as you ask yourself for information and helpfulness, you shall present yourself with the opportunity to view aspects of yourself that you may notice that are less efficient. Therefore, you shall create the opportunity for choices within probabilities of change, and you shall eventually open to recognize the direction within cooperation, as you learn to understand that there is no separation.
This is a very difficult issue for all of you, without exception; for you have created a physical focus that holds a camouflage of separateness. It is not an illusion, but it is a very effective camouflage of separateness. As you realize that there is no separateness, there are no sections, there are no oranges (7), (grinning) you shall allow yourself more of an understanding of cooperation.
Be reminding yourself objectively that you are a part of all and all is a part of you, regardless of your tastefulness for any aspect. You may view another individual or activity as distasteful, but they are elements of you. It matters not. You are not removed and separate from all. There are no walls between any of you. You only allow yourself a temporary viewing that appears to be sectioned; but although you create a physical manifestation, even this is not contained and sectioned from all else.
You shall find also, as you continue within your widening process, as many of my dear friends have continued with me within these session periods, that as you request of yourself your own widening you shall offer this to yourself, and you shall confuse yourself, and you shall shriek with dismay at times! But, you have requested. Just as we have spoken, you objectively choose. You are not the victim of a conspiracy within subjective movement. You have chosen, and you shall present yourself with those elements that you need be viewing for your own awareness and your own widening; this allowing you to more efficiently engage your shift, and transition within physical focus without senility!” [session 152, February 09, 1997]
ELIAS: “Some individuals choose, in your terms, ‘bad’ events or experiences. In this, they may not be individually for themselves creating their own drama, but they may be offering themselves definite examples within experiences to clarify information. It is not uncommon, within what we term to be a ‘final focus,’ (grinning) as you have chosen, to be offering a barrage of events that you may all view as negative or bad situations. It is not a rule, either! (Grinning at Norm) It is only not uncommon. It is a concentration of events, as you believe that faster is better! Therefore, you shall offer yourself much information within a small time element, for you believe this shall be more helpful to your transition.
As we continue within these sessions, an objective is that you shall all realize that you may be incorporating enough confusion and effort engaging transition within physical focus without creating additional trauma for your learning experience, within your terms; as shall hopefully Michael [Mary] realize also!” [session 156, March 02, 1997]
VICKI: “I have a question about that for Jessele [Margot]. She’s wondering if, when she has dream imagery of a physically focused individual dying but in actuality they have not died, if that is indicative of an entering into a state of transition?
ELIAS: At times. Not always; but there are occasions that you may be connecting with this imagery and it shall be indicating of an individual engaging transition within physical focus.
RETA: A couple of times you’ve said, if I’m right, that they can start going through transition before they disengage?
RETA: Can you explain that a little bit more?
ELIAS: Many of you already accomplish this, as you term this state to be a condition that you classify physically as senility.
RETA: So you’ve already gone on and your body is still here.
ELIAS: You are here also!
RETA: Well, you’re here also, but partially, not totally alert.
ELIAS: You are completely alert. You are engaging the action of transition. You are not disengaged from physical focus.
RETA: What about these folks that are very ill and they just lay in a bed in a coma? Is that the same thing? They’ve already engaged transition and haven’t shut off the body?
ELIAS: No. We have discussed previously the manifestation of what you term to be coma, and you may be referring to this information. Within the action of creating senility, you are engaging the action of transition.
RETA: That’s interesting.
ELIAS: It is not necessary to be engaging senility to engage the action of transition within physical focus; and as you shall become aware presently and within your near future, you shall view your sciences to be efficiently affecting of what you think of as senility. This is agreed upon, as you are entering into your shift; for individuals within consciousness recognize that it is unnecessary to be creating of this ‘condition’ or ‘disease’ to be engaging transition.
DREW: So they engage it as a belief system rather than as a choice?
ELIAS: The action is created with an explanation acceptable within your physical reality. You view the action to be a disease. Therefore, it is acceptable. It is unnecessary to be creating this disease. As you move into your shift, you are recognizing of this. Therefore you create, quite conveniently, a cure for your disease!
RETA: There are several types of senility. Like you said, coma is one thing, senility is another thing. But there are folks that are almost like a vegetable. Just their body is here, and to us they have no recognition of anything. Why do they stay if their body is not functioning? Or is it a belief system they had before, that they can’t leave?
ELIAS: It is not necessarily a belief system. It is a choice of experience which you may say stretches the limits of the body consciousness. You may be, as I have stated, engaging previous information, which shall be explaining of these situations to you.” [session 157, March 09, 1997]
ELIAS: “Some of you have chosen the action of transition within this physical focus, intending to not be remanifesting physically. Others are choosing remanifestation, but the action of your shift in many respects is very similar to the action of transition. Therefore, we shall concentrate upon Regional Area 3 and the action that transpires within this area of consciousness, for your further understanding.
Those of you who have chosen to be not remanifesting within physical focus and have chosen this particular focus as what we have designated as your final physical manifestation are already beginning to be experiencing elements of transition. Those of you who are choosing to be remanifesting are beginning to recognize more unofficial information in conjunction with your shift.
The subject of transition is lengthy and complicated. It is also quite individual within the actualization and movement. There are some commonalities that we may discuss that individuals may experience, although even within these there are variances; for each focus experiences different elements and events within transition.
Initially, I will address to belief systems that individuals hold; not necessarily within this group present physically, but within individuals who are privy to this information.
As you choose to disengage physical focus you enter into an area of consciousness, an action, which we term transition. I have stated many times that the time framework, in your terms, is quite different from the time framework of the individual experiencing transition nonphysically. Therefore, initially I will express to you that within your physical time framework that you recognize, it may appear to you that an individual may continue within this area of transition for very many years. This is not to be of concern. Therefore, it is unnecessary to concern yourselves with the thought process of acquiring a method to be helpful to these individuals to be moving them through transition more quickly. This would be what many individuals within their belief systems term to be helpful to individuals on the ‘other side,’ guiding them into the light. This is a belief system. Each individual engages the action of transition for the amount of time, in your terms, that is necessary for them to be accomplishing addressing to their belief systems and disengaging themselves from these belief systems, to be moving within consciousness. Within nonphysical action of transition, the individual does not experience time in the same manner as do you.
We have spoken previously of individuals physically focused and also essences nonphysically focused holding the intent and action of helpfulness to some individuals after their point of what you term death, to be leading them into action. This is different from individuals engaging transition fully within its natural flow. Some individuals, as we have stated previously, move into a disengagement of physical focus and do not believe that they have disengaged. Some individuals become confused in this manner, holding very tightly to objective consciousness. In this, they prevent their own movement within the action of transition. Therefore, essences are engaged to be helpful in moving these individuals into the action of transition.
Just as I have stated previously, your belief systems are based in truths. They are based in known realities of nonphysical actions. They are distorted into belief systems. Therefore, you hold ideas such as rescuing individuals and moving them, after the point of death, into the cosmic light. Individuals engaging transition automatically move into areas of confrontation with held belief systems. These are not applicable within nonphysical focus. Therefore, they are attended to within the action of transition.
As I have stated, each individual engages this action uniquely, in accordance with their individual perceptions and belief systems. Therefore, the action may be what you think of as longer, within your time framework, or shorter.
Some individuals accomplish partial action of transition within physical focus. This has been an occurrence throughout your history. This is not a new concept. This is not a new action. Each individual which experiences senility throughout your history has been engaging the action of transition within physical focus. This is continued within nonphysical areas of consciousness after death. In such cases, the action of transition, to your way of thinking within a time framework, shall be accomplished much more quickly.
Be remembering that as you disengage a focus you may choose to be remanifesting; but you also, as the you that you recognize, do not repeat the action of physical manifestation, for you are not used parts! Each manifestation is new. Therefore, within the action of transition a certain element always attends to the complete engagement of belief systems; for as I have stated this evening, they are not applicable within nonphysical focus, and as you shall continue within nonphysical focus they are of no use to you any longer. At the same ‘time,’ another aspect of you which you have chosen to remanifest may hold to these established belief systems.
We have stated previously that as you remanifest, you hold belief systems; this being a basis for another belief system that you hold, within your ideas of reincarnation and karma. These belief systems are distorted, but they hold your idea of fact in that you do carry established belief systems within remanifestation. Therefore, within what you term to be a ‘final manifestation’ you engage the belief systems within transition of all focuses. Individuals engaging the action of transition within a final manifestation shall experience much more intensely and differently than individuals choosing to be experiencing transition and also choosing remanifestation, which you may do. Within a final focus, you engage the totality of your focuses. Therefore, if choosing the action of transition within this physical manifestation, you shall also be opening and allowing for bleed-throughs, these being of all of your other focuses. You may not connect with every focus, but you shall connect with many. There is much more information of this subject.
NORM: ... In my dreams, in my unconscious or that action of my consciousness, can I not go into transition, Regional Area 3?
ELIAS: The action of transition is consuming of the entirety of your focus. It is not limited to only your dream state. It is a complete engagement of belief systems while physically focused. It is also a mergence of subjective and objective consciousness. In this, you engage belief systems. Subjective activity appears different from objective activity. Objective activity is imagery of subjective activity. It also is a translation. The translation deals with a different type of information. It deals with sensory information. Subjective activity does not engage sensory information. Therefore, as this bleeds through to your objective awareness, it is unfamiliar. It seems different. At times, it seems untranslatable. Therefore, you become confused, for you do not understand any longer your experiences.
... You will engage your belief systems. If you are choosing non-remanifestation, you shall engage the entirety of the belief systems held within all of the focuses of essence. As you widen your awareness and are disengaging from these belief systems held throughout all of the focuses, you prepare yourself for engaging whichever action you choose to continue with within nonphysical focus. You do not merge into a larger entity. You are this already!
I am quite understanding that this concept is almost impossible for you to be understanding, for you are thinking of one focus as you, engaging belief systems within transition of all of the focuses of essence, which are this one and this one and this one, and this one over here, (laughter) and then as you engage all of these belief systems of all of these other individuals which are not you but they are, you miraculously merge into the whole of essence. No.
ELIAS: You are the whole of essence.
... Individuals choose to be engaging the action of transition while continuing within physical focus as this facilitates, as I have stated, what you think of as more rapid movement within nonphysical state. Allow me to offer you a very hypothetical example. This is quite figurative, only as an illustration.
You are an individual physically manifest, and disengage physical focus. At the moment of your death, you engage the action of transition nonphysically; this being dealing with physically-focused belief systems. Let us express that you are intending to be remanifesting, for there is quite another action involving final manifestation. Within a recognizable time framework, you engage the action of transition for what you term to be fifty of your years. You choose remanifestation. You choose within this manifestation to engage the action of transition within physical focus. You accomplish this action, and at the moment of your death you move into the action of nonphysical transition which continues for ten of your years, for you have already moved through many of your belief systems.
Now; this in actuality is not the case, for there are no physical years within nonphysical transition; although you may recognize within physical focus another individual, that you have viewed to have died, engaging transition for fifty of your years. It is dependent upon the individual and the belief systems that they hold, and also whether they are choosing remanifestation or whether they are choosing not to be remanifesting. Therefore, there is a variance within what you think of as time frameworks, although the time framework of the action of transition is only relevant to physical focuses; for within nonphysical engagement of transition this is only partially an element, for at a point the focus disengages objective consciousness. Therefore, there is no time framework.
As they hold partial objective continuation of perception, there continues to be a time framework, although it is different. It is not sequential, it is not linear, and it is not measured in the same moments as you are familiar with within this physical focus. It is more likened to your dream state, to which you do hold a time framework. It is not the same as your waking time framework, but your time element is not non-existent within your dream state. This would be comparable to the objective perception of time within nonphysical transition state.
... Within the initial throes, to your way of thinking, of this action of transition, you are holding to your objective awareness, for this is familiar. Therefore, as you hold to this objective awareness but simultaneously allow subjective activity, you become confused. You shall merge. Within your time element you shall hold a slight amount of time period of confusion that you may view as being uncomfortable; but it is not necessary for Elias or Jade (8) to be offering of information objectively except within helpfulness and supportiveness, for the individual shall offer themselves an understanding, as this individual presently is beginning to do. Already, within the experience of trauma that this particular individual experienced recently, this individual also is beginning to offer information to herself, and she is beginning to receive, in small amounts, her answers to herself.
You may express that the trick to this action is to be listening to self and not discounting and expressing to yourself that you are insane; this being the reason that we engage these discussions, as you may learn to be identifying of your own voice and of unofficial information. Therefore, as you approach your shift or engage transition, you shall be more tuned to listening to self and not discounting the information that you offer to yourself. In this, you lessen your trauma and you increase your understanding.” [session 158, March 16, 1997]
DREW: “Regarding this mass event (9), when you say that their experience is as valid as our experience in this forum, there is a difference however, in terms of belief systems relative to truth, is there not?
ELIAS: As I have stated many times, truth within physical focus is relative.
DREW: Relative to what?
ELIAS: To your belief systems.
DREW: Well, in other words ... Let me rephrase the question. Their belief system that they will be rendezvousing with a UFO subjectively is further from the truth than what we’re learning in this forum. Would that be safe to say?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is an interpretation. An alien craft, within their belief systems, may mean subjectively the same as essence.
ELIAS: It is imagery. I have expressed to you that many individuals encounter alien creatures. What they in actuality encounter is themselves. They encounter their own essence. Their imagery is created in the form of a little gray squashy guy! (Grinning)
RETA: Now when they go ... Getting out of physical focus into truth and into their essence in transition, are they still in that spaceship? Are they still with that alien? How long does it take them to understand truth?
ELIAS: Within the area of transition they shall not be upon a craft, for within the area of consciousness of transition they shall be merging objective and subjective activity to be removing objectivity and belief systems.
RETA: They’re gonna be disappointed, you know.
ELIAS: Not necessarily. They may be temporarily incorporating the experience they seek before they are entering transition. Each of you shall experience that which you seek before entering transition; although some individuals, incorporating lunacy, (humorously) shall be experiencing transition within physical focus! (Much laughter) Therefore, they shall skip a shell and they shall not enter into the area of creating what they choose within what you think of as fantasy before entering transition, for they are already entered into transition. (To Vic) There shall be no alien craft waiting for you!
VICKI: Oh, that’s so disappointing ...
ELIAS: (Dramatically) I am understanding of this. We shall call a moment of mourning. (Much laughter)
VICKI: Now wait a second! Couldn’t I conceivably connect with the experience of these individuals presently?
ELIAS: You shall not ride the ship! (Laughing) Partially, yes. You may within consciousness connect with the experience of these individuals presently empathically, for they have not entered transition. Although you shall not ride the ship! (Laughter)
VICKI: Maybe I shall ride the ship!
ELIAS: I challenge you!
VICKI: I hear that!
ELIAS: We shall note this also for Michael [Mary] for dream imagery, that you may be not turning away with the next encounter! (Chuckling)
VICKI: It’s quite possible!
BOB: I have a question. It seems likely that the experience of these thirty-some people collectively might not be the same ...
ELIAS: Quite right.
BOB: ... that where we view them all as being somewhat in concert both in intent and action, that the actual result may be quite different, some of them reluctantly going along, some of them jubilantly going along, some of them having different perspectives. Even if they have the same attitude towards this event, the chances of them all arriving at the same place seems somewhat unlikely to me. Would that be an accurate assessment of their action?
ELIAS: Very accurate. Each shall incorporate their own individual experience.
BOB: So they could all be scattered to the winds, so to speak.
ELIAS: Each will manifest the experience of their beliefs. Each will view what they anticipate to view. Not all images are the same.” [session 160, March 30, 1997]
NORM: “You said that you help stabilize energy of those that are in transition.
NORM: Why is that important?
ELIAS: Many focuses entering into transition move through their initial belief systems, and as they move through these initial belief systems they find themselves in what they create and view as a void. This is unsettling, for the individual does not understand what they are creating. Therefore, other essences are helpful within this area of transition, to be stabilizing and offering helpfulness within direction.
NORM: Their creations are not appropriate?
ELIAS: No. Let me offer you a quite simple example.
You are a physically focused individual. You disengage physical focus. You die. You, within this particular physical focus, hold deep religious belief systems; let us express Christian religious belief systems, for all of these individuals shall be familiar with these belief systems. Therefore, as you move into the area of transition at your death, you manifest these belief systems. You shall appear within your heaven. This shall be temporary, for this is a manifestation of your belief systems. It is what you expect. Therefore, temporarily you shall experience your creation of heaven. As you move into the action of transition, your heaven shall begin to dissipate, as a picture moving out of focus. It shall appear snowy and defocused. As this continues, you shall begin to lose your sense of time. As you lose your sense of time and you are losing your imagery you begin to feel ... for you are continuing to objectively feel to this point ... you begin to feel unsettled. This begins to unnerve you. At this point, other essences approach to be helpful. They provide stabilizing energy. This allows you to create imagery that you may understand as you move through transition. This is also helpful to you in acclimating yourself to simultaneous time.
This may be a long process, in your physical terms. These individuals may not be completely aware of the exchange and offering of other essences, for they continue to hold objective consciousness. As they dissolve their objective consciousness and move into their subjective consciousness only, they shall become aware of other essences.
NORM: So the true goal of transition is really the dissolution of the objective consciousness.
ELIAS: If you are not choosing remanifestation.
NORM: Oh, you want to keep some of that then. Keep the good stuff!
CAROL: May I ask a question about that? Does the same process hold true, like with me, for Star-Borne? When the transition occurs, is it the same type of a transition or is it different? Does it happen differently? Is the reality different?
ELIAS: All transitions from one area of consciousness to another area of consciousness are, in your terms, basically the same; a similar process. They are an emergence into a new area of consciousness. Therefore, there is an adjustment period; although as I have stated previously, some individuals are choosing at some time periods to not be engaging this transitional period, and may be slinging themselves through areas of consciousness, (laughter) which may also create tremendous disturbance within the individual, for they have not allowed themselves a period of acclimation.
DREW: If an essence decides to remanifest, it’s a completely new focus it creates, correct?
DREW: Then why would old belief systems, from the previous manifestation disengaged, be held? When you were talking to Norm, you said that those belief systems are shed unless there’s going to be a remanifestation. But since the remanifestation is new, wouldn’t it have its own new belief systems and its new intent and its own value fulfillment?
ELIAS: Ah, and we continue to be thinking in terms of singularity! You are you, as this body, as this person, as this entity; and you shall die, and you shall move as one singular entity into an area of non-physical focus ... (humorously) which you shall walk through, obviously, for you shall still continue with your body, although it shall be translucent now ... (laughter) and you shall move down your path and you shall look to your fork in your road and express, ‘Ah! This fork back to physical focus, this fork to non-physical focus.’ You are obviously one entity, so you must choose! Incorrect! You are myriads!
DREW: But doesn’t each focus have its own belief systems?
ELIAS: To an extent, yes.
DREW: But there are some common belief systems ...
DREW: ... throughout the entire essence through all focuses, and those are the ones that are maintained if an essence is going to remanifest.
ELIAS: It is dependent upon your design of remanifestation; how you choose to remanifest. If you are choosing to remanifest with similar experiences, yes; you shall hold these belief systems and carry them, so to speak, into another focus. This is not karma. This is a choice. You may choose a different experience. In this, you may also choose to be acquiring new belief systems. You do move through many focuses which hold common belief systems.
CHRIS: Elias, when you were describing the transition that we go into, unmanifestation or I’m assuming when we die, it sounded very much like the transition that we have here. I mean, it’s almost exactly the same thing. I mean, you get what you expect, people come into your life to help you ... I mean, I’m kind of blown away by that! That sounds like here!
ELIAS: Ah! One point, Oliver [Christie]!
CHRIS: One point! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Quite; this being the reason why I express to you the importance of now, the importance of your realization of your creativity and your self within the now; for you shall move into another area of consciousness within transition, but you shall be actualizing the same process, in your terms. Therefore, you have your prototype already!
Very many individuals shall look to physical focus and devalue this physical focus. They shall express to you that you are ‘less than’; to be an element of your species upon this planet, you are less than. You are not! You are your highest expression. There is no greater within consciousness. And how may you be appreciating of self within any area of consciousness if you are not appreciating of self within this area of consciousness?” [session 165, April 19, 1997]
VICKI: “I have some questions for some other people, if everybody’s finished. These are personal questions for other people. The first one is from Jessele [Margot]. I had a very strange experience this evening. For over an hour I’ve had a steady series of those fainting things, only this one was different. Sort of palpitations – they kept moving back and forth from my heart area to my head, lasting about ten or fifteen seconds in each place. Before I try to explain this to a doctor, I’d like you to ask Elias what it is, and even if I should go to a doctor. Somehow, I think it’s all a part of a bigger picture, but I don’t know.
ELIAS: You may express that within the belief systems, seeking advice of physicians may be engaged; although this may very well prove to be unfruitful. This is no different, within a continuation of the engagement of transition. Your physical expression also responds. You do not only experience subjective bleed-through. Within the choice to be engaging of transition within physical focus, all of the expression within physical focus is engaged. Therefore, the body consciousness is also affected. At times, the communication of subjective instruction to physical form is confused, for its attention is no longer focused so directly. Therefore, elements of physical actions may be occurring in response, for the body consciousness becomes confused. In this, it is as if you have crossed many electrical wires within physical focus, creating sparks and diffusion of energy.
Express that worry is unnecessary. This also is temporary, although it may reoccur. Therefore, hold expectation of reoccurrence. Express also: Be remembering, you are choosing to be objectively aware and not engaging senility. This is a new step within your physical manifestation. It is unfamiliar, and therefore individuals moving into this area may be on shaky ground temporarily, for you have no reference frame. You are creating and holding to your responsibility. You are not aligning with mass belief systems in creating senility, which (senility) allows you to disengage responsibility.
Many unusual, or what you view to be unusual, physical occurrences may appear. This should cause no concern, if understood that there are breaks in the electrical wiring of subjective information and direction to objective physical form. It may be termed as a short circuit, temporarily.” [session 166, April 20, 1997]
ELIAS: “We have spoken previously that as you move into physical focus, you incorporate a time period of transition from subjective to objective. You continue to incorporate much of your subjective awareness within young ages, just as you continue within transition to incorporate objective awareness for a time period. As you move into adolescence and adulthood, you also move away from the experiences that you may view within older years as victimization. These are all choices; quite efficient choices, I shall say also! You express to yourselves the resiliency of children. You are quite right, for they hold the ability to drift back and forth between objective and subjective reality. As you move into an acceptance of mainly objective reality, you do not hold the ability to incorporate these actions as well; this being why as adults the same negative occurrences may be involved, and they are much more difficult for the individual to objectively deal with.
CAROL: ... How do the actual dynamics work when an unmanifested focus decides to physically manifest and chooses parents? What actually transpires?
ELIAS: Essence designates a focus which holds a personality tone, which within non-physical focus seeks out other focuses which shall be in agreement to be bearing another physical manifestation. This may be accomplished in many different actions.
You may be a focus within transition, moving through the area of transition and choosing to be, in your terms, remanifesting. In this, you shall be incorporating an aspect of yourself to be remanifesting, which shall continue within a new focus. This aspect shall seek out all information of a particular manifestation and environment which shall be beneficial to its intent. It shall then enter into agreement with those focuses which shall be designated as the physically focused parents. It may then choose to be within agreement within time framework of the physically focused parents, choosing to manifest physically within gestation period of the mother. During this time period, the focus shall be creating of its expression of itself physically. It shall be projecting a physical image of itself, creating this within what you view to be matter. It then shall choose a moment to be merging itself subjectively to the physical manifestation; therefore incorporating the completion, in your terms, of the physical objective. This may be accomplished within gestation period or after physical birth.
CAROL: Now, essence may decide that it has a particular penchant for certain experiences, and would then manifest aspects in many time frames, historically speaking in our terms, and be able to experience more of that intent?
ELIAS: Yes, if it is so choosing. It may create many focuses with the same or similar intents. It may also be creating of many focuses within a diversity of intents.BOB: How are they carried from there to here? What’s the vehicle for the belief systems to enter
this physical focus? If they’re not carried in essence and you disengage one given physical focus, where are the belief systems from that physical focus retained until they remanifest themselves in this physical focus?
ELIAS: Within the aspect of consciousness that you choose to be remanifesting.
BOB: So they’re in the DNA code, or the genetic code?
ELIAS: No. They are not encoded physically. They are not part of your physical expression. They are not part of your physical brain. They are part of your consciousness. They are part of your objective consciousness which is retained. If you are choosing to be remanifesting, and you are choosing to be remanifesting within a similar intent, within a similar time period, within a similar culture, within the same dimension, you may engage transition temporarily and not move entirely into an area of complete subjectivity; therefore retaining an element of objective awareness, which shall be the aspect which shall continue and be remanifest.
BOB: So objective consciousness is not a function of physical manifestation at all. Objective and subjective consciousness are always one, or different aspects of one consciousness, which stays with essence. So even though we think, at least in our terms, of subjective consciousness being somehow more ethereal and objective consciousness as somehow connected to the brain, neither is the case. Consciousness is not a function of thinking.
ELIAS: Consciousness is not a product of thinking, but objective consciousness is relative to physical focus.
BOB: I thought I heard you say you retain objective consciousness as you go into transition, after you leave your body, where you would have no physical focus.
ELIAS: Correct; but you hold an awareness of physical focus continued within the area of transition, and you retain your objective awareness. If you are choosing non-remanifestation, you shall move into areas within transition that you shall disassociate all objective awareness. If you are choosing remanifestation you shall, within the tone of you that you presently recognize ... continue with me ... this element shall move into areas that shall disassociate from objective awareness and continue within non-physical subjective movement; but that aspect of objective awareness which has been an element of you shall deviate in tone ever so slightly and shall remanifest into physical focus, becoming a new creation. Therefore, it shall be its own personality and tone, but it shall be you.” [session 173, May 11, 1997]
MARGOT: “Well, I have a lot of thank you’s to give for all the help that I’ve had during the last few weeks, and want to report that my energy is very high and everything is fine. But there’s a couple of things I want to ask about having to do with that. I am not the same now as I was before all of this happened in March, and I’ve thought about it a lot and I can see that I’m not the same in a lot of ways. I don’t understand why, and I’d like to know more about it. If you could explain to me why I don’t feel like the same person, and yet I am the same person?
ELIAS: This shall be, within your future time period, common to those individuals which are choosing to be engaging the action of transition within physical focus. At times within your individual focuses, you shall notice differences within yourself as you exchange with an alternate self or you engage a probable self; but within the action of transition, you may consider a more drastic change occurring. It seems to be quite noticeable. You are moving out of complete objective awareness. You are incorporating more subjective awareness; and although you engage waking state and objective reality, you incorporate more of your subjective reality simultaneously. This creates a change in your awareness. It is a recognition of a knowing of more of yourself.
ELIAS: As you move through an individual focus, you learn to know yourself fairly well from an objective standpoint; but as I have stated throughout these sessions, there is a great deal more to each individual than what you perceive within your objective knowing. As you move into the action of transition, you allow more of self to be known objectively. Therefore, you recognize more of the fullness of yourself. This seems, in part, unfamiliar; this also being the reason that you may experience, within the beginning throes of this action of transition, what you may term to be a brief grieving process.
You shall feel temporarily, which you have already felt, a loss, and not quite be aware of what you are grieving for; this being the objective awareness or self grieving for itself, in a lack of understanding that it views itself as discontinuing. This is not the case. In actuality, you merge the objective and subjective awarenesses together to form a fuller focus. But initially, the objective consciousness does not hold recognition of this, for it knows only its own identity.
As you move through certain actions of transition, you allow yourself time periods of reprieve. In this, you shall feel quite normal and fit and as your recognizable self, but also not; for you shall recognize an element of self that seems different and new. This is not new! It has always been with you, for it is you. It is the element of your subjective awareness which you now allow to be objectively known; this being why you are comfortable with this newness, although it also simultaneously seems slightly strange.
MARGOT: I seem to have so much more energy than I’ve ever had before. There’s kind of a new vibration there in my energy that I feel, and it’s hard for me to describe. I just feel it. So is that subjective awareness coming in or taking more active part? That’s obviously energizing to me.
ELIAS: Quite; this also being a by-product of subjective activity. Individuals engaging subjective activity shall physically and mentally feel a time period of being energized, as does Michael [Mary] also within subsequent time period to our energy exchange; although this is quite different, in actuality. But as you allow more of yourself to be objectively actualized within the confines of this focus and dimension, you also reap what you view to be the benefits of what you may term as your larger self, for your energy in actuality is boundless. As you allow more of your subjective awareness to bleed through and to be actualized objectively, you loosen your belief systems which allows more of your energy flow. You loosen your constrictions upon your focus.
MARGOT: ... I have heard or I have read since I have read the scripts that many times, or sometimes, people in transition in physicality have decided it will be their last manifestation. Is this the case for me?
MARGOT: I rather thought it was. In my intent then for this lifetime ... I also read this in a script someplace, that somebody was confused or that many people are confused about their intent, and that it usually relates to the essence family that they’re from, or a part of, or are. Could you give me any information on what you see as my having accomplished my intent, within the essence of Sumafi aligned with Ilda? I’m a little confused about all of this.
ELIAS: You have been leading to the accomplishment that you now engage.
MARGOT: That was my intent?
ELIAS: To be objectifying this action within physical focus, and to be lending energy in this accomplishment. There are other actions that you have been lending energy to previously within the action of the engagement of your shift, which this being a similar action in some aspects. Therefore, you have been accomplishing within your intent, to be exploring in these areas and lending energy to the progress of both.
MARGOT: So all of my life I have been very positively intrigued with death and have made it a study, I guess, in every regard. So that was my intent showing up all the way through my life?
(Vic’s note: isn’t this a fascinating example of how we follow our intent throughout our life?)
MARGOT: That makes a lot of sense to me. But that doesn’t seem to me to be a part of Sumafi.
ELIAS: Oh, quite!
MARGOT: Oh, it is?
ELIAS: You are demonstrating the action of transition, and the intent of the Sumafi is to offer any information of any element or aspect of consciousness or reality with the least distortion. In this, they also are quite engaged within instruction. Therefore, within consciousness you have chosen a didactic path, so to speak, in projecting information within energy to other essences physically manifest, to be accomplishing within the action of transition and also within the shift.
MARGOT: So that intent is therefore very aligned with the Sumafi.
ELIAS: Quite.” [session 177, May 30. 1997]
CAROL: “How do belief systems work in with transitioning? Is the act of transitioning, or choosing to have this be your last physical focus, how does that work in with belief systems? Because we have to have belief systems in order to be able to be functioning here in this physical focus. Is it an exchange of belief systems that brings us to a point of transition, or is it not connected at all?
ELIAS: Within the action of transition, this is different. You are moving from one manifestation within consciousness, one focus of attention which holds belief systems. These are unnecessary within non-physical focus. Therefore, you create the area of transition to be allowing the disengagement of objective awareness and the detachment from belief systems.
Belief systems are relative only to physical focuses within each dimension. They are not relative to non-physical focus. Therefore, transition is that area of consciousness which allows you the opportunity to discard or shed these belief systems, acclimating yourself to subjective awareness. You presently hold basically an understanding of objective awareness. As you move into transition, you transition from objective awareness into total subjective awareness, for objective awareness is also relative to physical focuses.
As I have stated previously, do not fool yourselves with the belief system that as you disengage physical focus, that you automatically disengage objective awareness. You do not! You carry into non-physical focus objective awareness. You are aware of belief systems. You are aware of physical body consciousness. You are aware of objective reality. Your physical form is that physical projection and expression – not a vessel – of your essence. Therefore, it is also you. (Emphatically)
The consciousness of the physical body, the physical form, is a projection of your consciousness, and as it retains its physical consciousness, in your estimation, after ... for there is no time framework, but within your physical reality there is, and your body consciousness holds its consciousness, at times, objectively beyond your physical choice to disengage. As we have spoken, this varies within your choice of how you shall disengage, and what you choose to be engaging with your physical form after your disengagement.
If you are choosing, as an example, cremation, your physical body consciousness moves into transition with you, in your terms, more quickly. If you are eaten by a bear, your physical body consciousness travels with you to transitional areas of consciousness immediately, for the energy is immediately reconstructed and absorbed by the creature and rearranged, and your consciousness of body or physical form is immediately projected also into transition. Therefore, you hold this awareness also for a time period, within your interaction in transition. As you shed your belief systems, this dissipates and reconstructs into different energy; therefore not existing any longer within the terms that you understand.
Within transition, the objective is to be eliminating – not within physical focus but within transition non-physically – to be eliminating of belief systems which are connected with an individual physical reality. You may not accomplish this without objective awareness, for objective awareness is belief systems! Your body consciousness is affected directly by belief systems. It also holds objective awareness. Therefore, that aspect of your consciousness that must be transposed or shed to be completely subjectively focused must also include physical form, which is an element of your projected image of essence. It is consciousness, no different than that which you recognize as the you of you.
You are not a shell! You do not possess a vessel! You are not a boat floating upon a river! You are not a vase containing flowers! You are a magnificent expression of extremely complicated arrangements of links of consciousness which physically manifest into matter of atoms and molecules that you manipulate. (Pause)
CAROL: Did I understand you to say a couple of transcripts ago that people physically focused are going to be interacting more with people in transition that are not physically focused?
ELIAS: Yes. Within the action of this shift, you shall allow yourself interaction with individuals which occupy the area of consciousness that you recognize as transition. In this, you not only offer yourselves the new challenge of creativity and experimentation, but you also offer helpfulness in the action of transition, that individuals may not become confused and hold to objective consciousness.
There are no ‘lost souls,’ but there are confused focuses! (Grinning, and we all crack up) Therefore, within a recognition of simultaneous time within the area of transition, the focus may become quite confused at all of the lenses that appear before them and the belief systems that shall materialize within their reality, as they choose. This may be quite confusing to you initially. Therefore, it is in your terms quite understandable that some of these focuses may be choosing to be holding to this objective awareness, quitely! (Humorously) ‘I shall reside here within this small area, and recalling this manifestation of body. Therefore, I shall not confuse myself!’ (Laughter) But you also shall be helpful within this action of transition, in a recognition of this action; this being why many, many more individuals shall choose to be engaging the action of transition within physical focus previous to disengagement, offering helpfulness. And as many, many more individuals choose this action, this being also why your sciences shall be expressing they have cured your senility, for you shall hold an awareness. Therefore, you shall not create within total confusion. Therefore, you need not be fixed! (Laughter, and a pause) Are you wishing of more questions?
Q: ... Elias, you spoke earlier about the shift in consciousness creating confusion and misunderstanding. Can you tell us things that we might look for that would indicate this was taking place?
ELIAS: This occurs presently all about you. Individuals experience the same subjective bleed-through that you individuals experience, but recognize. Individuals that do not hold this information objectively experience, regardless, the same events. Therefore, they may be encountering your extraterrestrials, which are YOU, (laughter) and they may be experiencing strange objects, which are your creation, and they may view the alteration of objects before their waking eyes and they may not hold an interpretation. This creates fearfulness. Individuals, as you are aware presently, create fearfulness within themselves, for they do not understand what they are creating. Therefore, they view this as threatening.
Also be remembering, you are moving out of your religious era. Many belief systems have been developed within this era. They are quite strong! Individuals may objectively manifest those elements which correlate to their belief systems. You may view little demons with tails! (Laughter) They are your projections of your belief systems. They are not entities attempting to be hurtful to you. They are projections of your own fearfulness; but within the belief systems, many individuals experience much confusion and trauma, for they do not understand.
Also, we have spoken earlier of transition. I have expressed to you that many, many individuals shall be choosing to be experiencing much of this action of transition within physical focus. This already presently occurs. You label this as senility. You label this as a dysfunction. Therefore, you attempt to alter this without an understanding. The individuals that are creating this reality also hold no understanding objectively. Therefore, this creates a frightenedness within them, and much confusion. They are not accepting of the reality that they create any more than you are accepting of the reality that they create!
... As we have discussed the area of transition that you enter as you choose to disengage physical focus, you also engage an action of transition as you choose to enter physical focus; for you enter subjectively, for you are moving from subjective awareness without objective awareness. Therefore, in increments, you allow yourself to become focused within your objective reality. You will notice that your small ones, your infants, spend much of their physical time period within their sleep state, for they do not incorporate objective awareness but in very small increments. They hold subjective awareness. They are a physical example of your Dream Walkers. As they progress within your time period, they also incorporate more and more objective reality, closing out the subjective awareness. This too is a transition, which may be incorporated within a lengthy time period, in your terms, or it may be incorporated within a very small time period.” [session 185, June 21, 1997]
TOM: “Elias, before we take the break, my mother recently passed away, and I’m just curious ’cause I’m just curious. How is she doing in transition? Because she had such a tough physical focus.
ELIAS: The ‘toughness’ of your physical focus is not necessarily bearing upon your transition. The toughness of your belief systems is very bearing on your transitional state. This individual incorporates the beginning throes, which in your terms [she] has not even begun the action of transition.
TOM: She doesn’t even know she’s left, then.
ELIAS: The individual is aware of change in reality and consciousness, but continues to quite objectify and be creating of objective illusions which appear to be the same as this objective reality. The action of actual transition has not begun, in your terms.” [session 188, June 29, 1997]
MARGOT: “I understand that we spend a period of time after disengaging physical focus in coming into an acceptance of our belief systems. Depending on the strength of the belief systems we hold, this would require either a short period of contemplation or a lengthy one.
ELIAS: No. It is not dependent upon the strength of your belief systems. It is your choice, in your terminology of time framework, of what you are choosing to move through and let go of. It matters not the intensity of the belief systems in time framework. You may be experiencing and letting go of these belief systems regardless of their intensity quite quickly, if you are so choosing. If you are allowing yourself confusion and holding to these belief systems within another belief system that if you hold to these belief systems you shall not be confused, you shall be experiencing in your terms a longer time period, although the time framework is different. Therefore, it appears differently within the consciousness of the focus within transition.
MARGOT: Since some religions place most of their emphasis on what they will do in the afterlife to achieve exaltation, as they term it, that is a major part of that belief system that would require more than a little non-physical contemplation. When non-physical essences struggle with this type of thing and can’t move on, do they get any assistance from some kind of guiding essences or other aspects of themselves?
ELIAS: There is no essence that ‘can’t move on.’ It is unnecessary for assistance, although as I have expressed previously, it may be offered at times to the focuses in transition which believe themselves to be ‘stuck!’ (Grinning, and we all laugh) Therefore, helpfulness may be offered, although it is unnecessary. Eventually, they shall move themselves.
MARGOT: Is remanifestation possible if belief systems are still not resolved?
ELIAS: Absolutely. Resolving is not the point. Within the shift, accepting is the point. Outside of the context of the movement of the shift, it matters not; and you may carry belief systems through focuses. In actuality, you are affecting of other focuses and other focuses are affecting of you simultaneously within the area of belief systems. Therefore, they bleed through to each other.
MARGOT: After we have accepted our belief systems and we move into areas of non-physical awareness and existence, is it then that we can view all of our dimensional focuses?
ELIAS: You may view all of your dimensional focuses presently!” [session 191a, July 10, 1997]
STELLA: “Larry, my friend Larry that I used to work for, he died a year ago, and I think a lot about him. The two people that I call on are you and Larry, and Larry is very dear, and I feel he’s closer to me now that he has ever been. Can you tell me anything about Larry?
ELIAS: I express to you, as I have expressed to other individuals, this information you may acquire through other mediums, so to speak, which focus within the area of transition or within areas more closely aligned with physical focus. The area of consciousness that this essence filters through is removed from physical focus and is aligned with teaching. Therefore, this be my attention. Information may be accessed, although it is requiring of more energy than this essence chooses to focus attention within, for it is unnecessary, as you may attain the information that you seek through other means.
STELLA: Okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome. You may also receive your information directly, and need not employ a ‘go-between!’” [session 202, August 02, 1997]
LINDA: “On the subject of energy in motion, there are those that say that we need to activate our merkabah fields in order to make our transition with the Earth easier as we go in different dimensions. Can you tell us anything about that?
ELIAS: This is a belief system. I express to you, be wary of collecting more and new belief systems, for these are unnecessary. You shall be offering yourselves much to occupy your attention in looking to your existing belief systems, which shall be enough to be focusing upon! (Laughter)
LINDA: Is there any benefit at all to be working on the merkabah?
ELIAS: The merkabah is a focal point which has been translated into a new belief system. I express to you, you may avoid this and look directly to yourself.” [session 211, August 30, 1997]
LINDA: “… I was told at first I was aligned with the violet and then with the magenta, which kind of conform to each other. What’s the significance of that, of those colors? I know violet is always transmutation, but.... (Pause)
ELIAS: These also, I express to you, are interpretations within acquired belief systems. These individual colors are interpreted to hold certain metaphysical elements, and within these belief systems they are identified in certain manners, although in actuality you connect more genuinely with the vibrational tone quality of colors which are aligned with your essence families.
Now; individuals may be expressing at times an identification of color tone, and expressing within their belief systems to you that you align very strongly with this particular tone or this particular tone. In actuality, what they are expressing to you is that within the moment, you may be accessing those particular vibrational tone qualities within your own individual energy centers and connecting with those areas. In this, the purple is connected to your uppermost energy center, and the magenta is connecting to other Regional Areas. This connects to Regional Area 3 of transition.
LINDA: I don’t understand ‘Regional Area.’ Can you define it?
ELIAS: I have created, for physically-focused individuals and their understanding, definitions of different areas of consciousness. I have offered much information of energy centers which are located within your physical form. Beyond your physical form, you also hold three other energy centers, which are located physically ... (Linda indicates the area above her head.) Correct.
LINDA: So they would be what we call Soul Star and Source Star and something else? Is that the same thing, different terminology?
ELIAS: Different terminology.
LINDA: So, I know the Soul Star and the Source Star. What’s number three?
ELIAS: You have your energy center of black, of white, and of magenta. They are not above each other. They are beside each other, and rotating. One is connecting with Regional Area 2, one is connecting with Regional Area 3, and one is connecting with ... connecting! (Laughter)
LINDA: So Regional Area 2 would be your Soul Star or your Source Star? In my terminology, what would you....
ELIAS: Regional Area 2 would be all of your identification of subjective consciousness; all of your identification of where you initially create your reality for this physical focus. This would be what many individuals term to be your unconscious ... which is not unconscious!
LINDA: And then three would be ... ?
ELIAS: Regional Area 3 would be that area of consciousness one more area removed from you objectively, which engages a collective consciousness and also the area of non-physical transition.” [session 220, September 20, 1997]
STELLA: “Vicki told me ask you about transition! Interesting, huh?
(Vic’s note: Stella, you crack me up!)
ELIAS: (Chuckling) And what shall you inquire about transition?
STELLA: I should have asked her! (Laughter) I think I’m interested in transition. Am I in some transition period already? Am I doing some transition? Have I been doing transition since I’ve been in this focus? I’ve been wanting to die from eight years old. Yes?
STELLA: Wow! So do you think it would work really nice to help people in this ... and this has nothing to do with your ball! I mean, I am not doing this! ... to help people in their transition when they go to the other whatever-we-call-it? Yeah?
ELIAS: Ah! The whatever-we-call-it! Area of transition.
STELLA: Yes! Okay, that’s the area of transition.
ELIAS: Regional Area 3 would be the designation of this area of consciousness, and as you are moving into the action of transition within this focus and accomplishing in this direction, you shall be offering helpfulness to other individuals within the action of transition also, physically and non-physically.” [session 222, September 27, 1997]
VICKI: “Okay. The first question is for Margot and Howard. ‘Howard has had a funny fungus thing on the left side of his face for about six weeks. It started out about the side of a quarter, just below his temple at the hairline. No matter what, the thing is growing. It’s about the size of a dollar now. Also, is this what affected his right arm Friday morning when he awoke with no feeling and little use of the arm? It took a couple of hours for the feeling to return.’ Margot says that she dreamed a few weeks ago that it was also on the right side of his face, and she could see that it would soon cover his face. ‘Since he’s been feeling so positive about everything in his life, we aren’t coming up with any answers.’
ELIAS: (Accessing) This be connected to two different elements; one of an issue which this individual may consider to be in your terms old, that he may examine; not having to do with present feelings, but old issues within family that he continues to hold to underlyingly. And also within an area of resisting elements of moving into the shared area of transition with Jeselle, viewing that he holds much ability to continue within age and therefore viewing entering into an area of transition as negative, although you may be entering into an area of transition within physical focus and you may be continuing quite normally within your terms for very many years, and it is not necessarily dictating your imminent demise!” [session 233, November 02, 1997]
MARGOT: “In regard to transition: I asked Vic to ask for me, and she did, and you gave me an answer that had some interesting results. I asked you about these thumping episodes that I was having that had gotten to be quite severe. In fact, I really started having them fifteen years ago. You explained to me that it was part of the action of transition, and why. Now, the first thing I want to ask about that is, if those episodes are part of transition – I started having them about fifteen years ago – have I been in transition that long?
MARGOT: And that was actually my clue, or one of the clues?
MARGOT: Has it been longer than fifteen years?
MARGOT: How long has it been?
ELIAS: Within this particular focus, you have engaged this action of transition in what you would term to be twenty-three years ago.
MARGOT: Wow! That would have been before I left husband and church, or about the same time!
MARGOT: Whoa! Well, I’m sure glad that Vicki told me you can be fifty years in transition at least and still be here ... focused!
MARGOT: Whoa! Okay. Now you told me ... and I brought the statement with me. I hoped that Vicki could help me understand it, and she did. What you said here that I didn’t quite understand ... this is the last part of it:
‘The individual is not visualizing all of the focuses, but is mirroring the action in acceleration physically within body consciousness expressions. Therefore, the body consciousness is responding to subjective instruction, imaging the actions in this manner instead of imaging the action of transition in visualizing many focuses at once. Instead, the action is imaged within many different physical actions, different cells responding cooperatively within body consciousness and expression in the same manner.’
Now, I think if I talk to you a little bit about this, you’ll understand whether I understand that. I gather that I am getting the subjective knowledge of viewing focuses in the thumping episodes.
ELIAS: Correct.MARGOT: Okay. Now, as soon as she told me the answer, guess what? The severity of them
dropped to about half. They are to the point now that I don’t have them very often at all, and it’s not thumping anymore – I would have to say fluttering. Now, what happened? Did just knowing the answer subjectively....
ELIAS: Correct. It is offering your objective awareness the ability to be within harmony and partial understanding of the subjective activity in cooperation with body consciousness.
MARGOT: At this point, I don’t think the severity of the thumping will come again. If it should though, would it mean that I’m not in harmony?
ELIAS: No. It is merely for your own attention that this is the action that you are engaging.
MARGOT: But now that my attention has been gotten, we should just be in harmony now?
ELIAS: Correct.” [session 241, November 22, 1997]
VICKI: “Okay. The other thing that I wanted to bring up tonight if there was time – which it seems to be a pretty quiet group – is about transition. There seems to be a lot of distortion within this concept of transition. A lot of people seem to equate the idea of transition with dying, and if somebody is in transition, that means that they’re dying, in a lot of people’s interpretations. I think it’s created a lot of ... I don’t know ... misinterpretations of what’s being said within the context of the information. I have two questions about this actually, but first, I wonder if maybe you would redefine transition briefly at this point, for people that are new readers of transcripts.
ELIAS: There are several actions of transition. There is transition from non-physical into physical, which is not connected with dying! (Grinning) This would be the transitioning, the movement from non-physical areas into physical form, which may not necessarily be THIS particular dimension, but any physical dimension. There is an acclimation which is made into a physical dimension, for it is unfamiliar. Therefore, you allow yourselves a time framework to be acclimating yourselves into the reality of a physical dimension. Within this particular physical dimension, this may be moved into within six to twelve years. An individual may fully acclimate themselves into the official objective accepted reality as young as six years. At times, they may not be acclimating for twelve years, or any between.
Some individuals do not fully acclimate within this transition to your officially accepted objective reality. Some individuals choose to be holding to more of their subjective reality. These individuals you view as unstable and expressing lunacy, for they do not comply with your officially accepted reality and hold to much of their subjective reality. Therefore, these individuals do not complete, so to speak, the transition action of acclimating into your physical focus, and continue transitioning throughout their focus. Other individuals transition into physical focus, acclimate, continue within your officially accepted reality, and choose to be transitioning into non-physical focus while they are continuing within their physical focus.
Moving from physical focus into non-physical focus ALWAYS involves a transition, for you hold belief systems within physical focus and your attention is focused singularly in one area. Therefore, it is necessary for you to transition into non-physical focus again, for non-physical focus does not hold belief systems and your attention is not singularly focused. Therefore, you may not move instantaneously from physical focus into non-physical focus without a transition period. This would be an action of explosion, so to speak, for your attention is singularly focused within any physical reality. Therefore, your attention only understands that reality. If moving instantaneously into non-physical simultaneous time, viewing all focuses and the vastness of essence, the focus would not comprehend. We are speaking of the focuses, not the entirety of essence! Therefore, the focus must be shedding the belief systems of the physical reality and widening its awareness and its attention to encompass all of essence. This may be accomplished partially within a physical focus.
Many individuals choose not to be engaging this action within physical focus, and in this they shall continue until the moment of their so-called death and then enter into the area of transition. Many individuals, though, ARE choosing to be engaging this action of transition while they are continuing within their physical focus. They may begin this action of transition at any moment. This is not to say that if they are engaging within the action of transition that they shall die, or that they are leading to their inevitable death! Although you are all leading to your inevitable death! (Laughter) But the action of transition is not the onset of your downward motion into the ‘depths of death.’ It is merely an action chosen to be addressing to your belief systems, expanding your awareness of your reality, re-engaging yourself with essence, and the action of remembrance while in physical focus; therefore allowing you less of a transitional state once you are entering non-physical.
This is difficult to explain to you, for you think within time frameworks. Therefore, you automatically magnate to the thought process that if you are engaging transition within physical focus, you shall engage ten years of transition and you shall eliminate ten years of transition within non-physical. This is not the case, for there is no ‘years’ in non-physical! You are merely allowing yourself the opportunity to be addressing to belief systems within physical focus, and therefore as you move into non-physical focus this need not be as greatly a concern or action, which allows you an increased freedom to be addressing to OTHER actions within transition within non-physical areas, actions that you may not address within physical focus.
You may not accomplish the entirety of transition within physical focus, for you occupy your attention within a time framework. You also are occupied within a reality that holds belief systems.
I have expressed to you many times: You shall not be within this particular physical dimension without belief systems. You may accept belief systems; you may alter belief systems; but you shall always hold belief systems within this particular dimension, for this is how you have created this particular dimension. If you are not wishing to be holding belief systems, you may focus your attention within another physical dimension which may not hold belief systems. Within THIS particular physical dimension and very many others, you DO hold belief systems, which do not fit into a vaster area of consciousness. It is merely a choice of experience within one dimension.
Within the action of transition within physical focus, you allow yourself remembrances. You allow yourself the opportunity to remember self and essence. You offer yourselves examples, viewings, actions – of consciousness, of essence, of more than your singular attention within an individual focus. You allow yourselves to reconnect with yourselves and the vastness of self. You may be choosing to engage this action for very few of your years within a time framework, or you may be engaging this action for very many of your years within your time framework. If you are accomplishing this within an expanded time framework, you shall confuse yourself less, for you slow your action. You allow yourself your time to be viewing singularly. You allow yourself your time framework to be viewing events one-by-one. If you are choosing to be engaging this action within a small time framework, you create your senility and you confuse yourself, for you enter simultaneous time. You do this also if affording yourself a longer time framework, but it is not quite as confusing to you, for it is momentary. Therefore, you excuse the experiences away: ‘I have lost time. My time is moving very slowly. I am experiencing déjà vu.’
If you are experiencing senility, the experiences are all happening at once and may not be excused away and you may be viewed as exhibiting lunacy, for you have become confused with your time element. If you are allowing yourself the longer time framework, as a parent you may view a child and momentarily see that child at a different age. You express to yourselves that this is memory, reminiscing, and imagination. If you are entering the action of senility, you view the child at a different age and many different ages and you speak to them at that age, for you have eliminated your time framework to an extent; not entirely, but to an extent. Therefore, you view your child, which is an adult within officially accepted reality of this dimension, and you speak to this child as a small one, for you view this child as a small one, for you have pierced the veil of your time framework. The child does not understand, for within officially accepted reality of this dimension, it is an adult. It does not view all of the aspects of self, but you do. Therefore, you are labeled as experiencing lunacy. In actuality you are experiencing partial elements in preparation of simultaneous time within a particular focus, allowing you the preparation of moving into non-physical focus and not experiencing as much confusion initially.
The choice to be entering into the action of transition from physical into non-physical is not related to death in the manner that your thought processes proceed. ALL is related to death, for this is what you create – a movement through physical focus to be accomplishing death! From the moment that you enter physical focus, you continue upon a sojourn to be accomplishing death! But transition is not a disease. It is not the action of causing your inevitable death.
VICKI: It doesn’t really have anything to do with how you choose to disengage, correct?
VICKI: So you could choose a debilitating, fatal disease, and die very slowly physically over a period of six months, and this would have nothing to do with a choice of engaging transition.
ELIAS: No. You may never choose to engage transition and you may choose a disease that shall be creating of your death and engage transition after your death, or you may choose excellent health and you may choose to be engaging transition for thirty or fifty years.
VICKI: You said that people always go through a transitional period from physical to non-physical focus.
VICKI: When people are born into physical focus, there are people that are born and live for a very short period of time – five minutes, a day. Are those people not necessarily choosing that then?
ELIAS: They also shall be engaging an action of transition to non-physical.
VICKI: I’m talking about from non-physical to physical.
ELIAS: Correct. The exception of the transition state is only in such cases that the essence has not entered a focus. The essence may enter the focus at conception, or it may enter the focus after physical birth. If not entering into the focus, there is no transition; but if in your terms one minute is experienced within physical focus of the essence entering the focus into the physical dimension, a transition occurs at disengagement. A transition occurs at entering. They may be simultaneous within your time framework, but it shall occur.
VICKI: ... Okay. One other question on the transition deal. The action of the shift is very similar to the action of transition, it appears. When the shift is completed, so to speak, will we be engaging transition all the time, kind of?
ELIAS: No. Your choice shall remain the same. You may be choosing to be engaging transition within physical focus, or you may not. It shall be the individual choice. You shall continue to hold belief systems. You shall merely accept the belief systems that you hold. Therefore, the action of transition shall still be necessary.
VICKI: Well, I guess the reason I have the question is because partially I’m under the impression that if you engage transition and you intend to remanifest, you don’t necessarily engage an action of getting rid of belief systems, but of accepting them?
ELIAS: Correct; but be remembering that each focus is a new creation. Therefore, you as Lawrence [Vicki] may be choosing remanifestation – which is a very inadequate term, for you are not remanifesting, for you are manifest already – but an aspect of your focus shall be that which is another focus. You as Lawrence [Vicki] shall attend to your belief systems and be moving into other areas. You continue always as you. (Elias pauses, shaking his head and looking exasperated)
This is the area that enters you into your belief systems of reincarnation, which there is no reincarnation. You do not enter into a focus and disengage and continue by entering into another focus. This is linear thought process, which is also a belief system. It is a reality within this dimension, for you have created it as such; but within the reality of consciousness, all action is simultaneous. Therefore, there is no linear succession. It is almost – underline ‘almost’ – an illusion. It is a reality within this dimension. I am not expressing to you to be diminishing the reality of your time element within this dimension or your succession of time in this dimension, but within all of consciousness it is all simultaneous, and within consciousness this IS possible.” [session 247, December 07, 1997]
(Vic’s note: the following session was held directly after Julie’s session, as Stella had been experiencing some very affecting physical symptoms.)
Elias arrives at 8:42 PM.
ELIAS: “Good evening.
STELLA: Hi, Elias. Well, here I am. I have no idea what’s going on. I don’t like what’s going on. I don’t know. I came here because I’m asking for your help. I just need help. I really do. I don’t like doing this and I don’t want to, so if you can share with me what I can do to quit doing whatever it is, I will do it right now. (Elias chuckles) And don’t laugh! This is not fun!
ELIAS: You are experiencing elements of transition. Your objective awareness responds, for you are fading in and out. You are allowing yourself a temporary action of what may be considered as your ‘in-between’ state, but within the engagement of this objectively within physical focus, at times you may view this to be uncomfortable.
We have spoken of transition with individuals experiencing what you term to be senility. The reason that this is viewed as a disease is that the individuals experiencing transition in this manner exhibit physical situations also. It is not merely a situation of appearing to be delusional. Your physicians treat this condition with medication, for the individuals experience physical disorientation, dizziness, discomfort within their physical form, pain, for they are entering areas of consciousness that are unfamiliar within this dimension. They are merging non-physical aspects to physical dimension, which in a sense, in a physical sense, is unnatural, for it does not fit within your officially accepted reality. The medication that is offered by your physicians to these individuals offers little relief, for the physicians do not understand what they are treating. Therefore, as the All-Knowing Physician, (grinning) I shall offer to you: You are not in need of medication.
I may offer to you that you have created a situation within yourself of lending energy to yourself of disengagement. Therefore, you also onslaught yourself with your transitional state. Within your belief system underlying, you must hurry! You must be creating all of your transition before you are disengaging, and you are lending energy to yourself for disengagement within a small time framework!
You are not wishing to be continuing within physical focus, but you are not wishing suicide. Therefore, you hasten your time framework to your disengagement by lending much energy to this action, and also lending energy to the creation of furtherment of the transition. It is unnecessary.
STELLA: So what can I do now?
ELIAS: Take a bath!
STELLA: Take a bath? What do you mean, take a bath?
ELIAS: The order from The Physician! (Grinning) Immerse yourself in a bath, and while in this state, allow yourself a relaxation and a visualization of self. In this, as you are visualizing self, be connecting with your own energy of what you are creating, and recognize that you may be accomplishing this type of transition in a more natural state non-physically and you shall not be incorporating physical affectingness of body consciousness. (Pause, smiling)
I am quite aware that this appears quite simplistic, but I am also aware of the affectingness of the body consciousness. You are holding very tightly to the physical body consciousness. You are constricting it.
STELLA: That’s why my back hurts so bad?
ELIAS: You are not allowing a free flow. Within your belief systems, which ARE reality, immersing yourself in water allows you to unconstrict your physical form. You allow your consciousness to release its hold upon your form. (To Vic) When you swim, you allow yourself buoyancy, for you believe that the water shall support you and you allow yourself the opportunity to release your own conscious hold upon your physical form. (To Cathy) When you immerse yourself in your bath, you allow a relaxation, do you not?
CATHY: Yes, I do.
ELIAS: Water serves as very strong imagery to you within physical focus. You hold many belief systems in relation to water. Therefore, the suggestion is not as simplistic as it seems.
Realize that as you are lending energy to your disengagement, you also hold fearfulness of this disengagement. Therefore, you are holding to your physical body consciousness. You are creating a situation of struggle. One aspect of your desire moves to letting go; one aspect of your desire moves to holding very tightly. Therefore, you create conflict, and as you are creating conflict, you are confusing your body consciousness. It is responding to your hold.
STELLA: Hmm. Makes absolute sense. So if I do this with this water and I just imagine ... this dizziness is driving me crazy! These dizzy spells are awful.
ELIAS: Visualize yourself. Allow yourself to release your hold upon your physical body consciousness. Allow yourself the acceptance of your transitional state within the moment, and that you need not force this state.
It is also unnecessary for you to lend so very much energy to your disengagement. You shall disengage when you are choosing.
STELLA: Okay ... because I have a time frame. (Laughter)
ELIAS: I am aware!
STELLA: Oh Elias, thank you very much. I knew all along that the doctor was not going to do anything. I knew that. I just knew that. Dick has the same pain in his shoulder. Why does he have it?
ELIAS: This also is an action of transition. This individual has been engaged within the action of transition for a time framework and also holds to the physical aspect in fearfulness of disengagement. This is ongoing with this individual, for he holds belief systems of age and that he is moving closer to the time framework of disengagement, and is holding to this physical expression.
STELLA: So, it’s both of us.
ELIAS: You also lend energy to each other in this situation.
STELLA: Oh really? Lend energy, meaning in helpfulness?
ELIAS: In creating what you are creating! (Laughter) For you are creating very similar actions! One aspect holds to the physical, one aspect desires to let go; but the fear binds you.
STELLA: Okay. I haven’t had ... what do you call it? An alternate self or something? Because I don’t feel like myself. That’s just part of the transition, right?
STELLA: I feel like she somehow comes back for a little while. She comes back, and then she goes away. I’m not here, I’m just not here.
ELIAS: You are fading in and out. You are viewing more of you than that which you normally allow within your singular attention. This is an action of transition.
STELLA: But it doesn’t have to be as disruptive as I’m making it.
ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, immerse yourself in your water of your bath!
STELLA: I will. Well, it’s a nice prescription! I’ll come back to you, Physician. (Elias chuckles) Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.” [session 248b, December 09, 1997]
VICKI: “So after the completion of the shift, so to speak, we won’t view individuals that we think have miraculous abilities or more powers than we do, or that are....
ELIAS: You shall ALL hold these miraculous abilities and more powers.
VICKI: Well, I understand that, but it just seems like there isn’t an end to it, you know? I mean, as far as a widening of awareness and a development of abilities, it just ... I don’t know. I guess my question is, won’t there be individuals that choose a slightly different experience, as what we call saints now, that we will view as different from ourselves?
ELIAS: Individuals shall be choosing different experiences, but they shall not be viewed in the same manner that you view saints.
VICKI: Hmm. Alright....
DAVID: So you’re also saying, too, that we will have the ability to communicate with our so-called ‘presently dearly-departed dead?’
DAVID: Will we learn much from these conversations with them, wherever they are, in the exchange of communicating with them?
ELIAS: It shall offer you more information of transition.
DAVID: That they’ve experienced?
DAVID: Therefore preventing us from going through a bad experience? Or not?
ELIAS: No. (Grinning)
HELEN: David! Is there a softer way for Mylo [David]?? (Laughter)
DAVID: Well, I thought once they gave us the information it would ease the experience, ’cause we’ll know what we’re experiencing!
ELIAS: Correct; but you shall continue to experience!
DAVID: Right, but it won’t be as traumatic as for those who had no idea what was happening to them.
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
DAVID: Give me an example. (Laughter)
ELIAS: Within some individuals, they experience LESS trauma if they are not holding previous knowledge of the experience that they engage within transition.” [session 252, December 21, 1997]
KAAN: “The other thing is, in the line that you’re developing about the creatures, I have followed some information from another source a while back about animals, so I want to run that by you, in terms of each creature having their own line of evolution and being a particular flavor-type or essence-type or whatever, and basically having their own evolution that is independent of us on this Earth, with the exception of possibly those pets that are interacting more heavily with us ... not like us, being individualized, but a more collective form. And when they’re dying, for instance, they’re not living through the final moment of death in the body but jumping into another instance of an animal life immediately, and not experiencing physical death in the body in the way that we may be experiencing. So, is that correct?
ELIAS: I am understanding. In a manner of speaking, yes, you are correct, for a creature is not requiring a period of transition in their movement within consciousness. They merely reconstruct and reconfigure the energy pattern. It is unnecessary for a transitional period, for they do not hold belief systems.
KAAN: What is the essential difference in their inner construction that sets us apart from their type of development? Obviously we’re working with belief systems, but the modality of their consciousness being different, can it be described in other terms that we can understand?
ELIAS: They are not essence. They are created of consciousness. They hold their own consciousness, but they are not of essence. They are a creation that YOU have created, being essence, from consciousness, but they do not hold essence. Therefore, they also do not hold belief systems. This is not to say that essence holds belief systems, but within physical focus you have created certain experiences that you choose.
Creatures, your planet, your vegetation, may all be viewed as tentacles of you. Your finger does not think, but it responds to you. At times, your finger may hold an automatic response. It may twitch. In like manner, all that you have created within physical focus are as tentacles extending out from you. Certain tentacles you assign certain qualities to, mirroring you.
KAAN: ... About babies, I’ve heard of an experiment in which children at a young age can understand the language primitively at an early stage. You may ask them to close their eyes and put them into the middle of the room on a chair, where there’s a quite a distance between the wall and the chair, and you ask them to close their eyes and touch the wall, and they could make a sound or knock on the wall. They could make a sound. Now if I repeat this experiment in a similar situation and can’t get this, would that be because my beliefs are affecting the child? Are they like animals? Are they that responsive to our belief systems?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. Different individuals choose different rates, so to speak, in which to be interactive objectively. Each individual entering physical focus is entering within an action of transition into physical focus. As they begin the physical focus, they are almost entirely subjectively oriented. As your time frame progresses, they increase their interactiveness objectively, but it is the choice of each focus as to their interaction objectively and how much interaction they choose to be allowing at what time rate.
There is an understanding far beyond what you believe within infants. They may not allow themselves the ability to be communicating objectively with you within language, but they hold an understanding of their environment around them and of you from a much earlier age than you realize. They also hold an understanding of you subjectively from the moment that the essence enters the physical form.” [session 260, January 18, 1998]
FORREST: “Continuing with the questions. Bunny asks, ‘Could you enlarge on what happens to the body consciousness if one chooses to be cremated? Is it better to be or not to be cremated, and for whom?’
ELIAS: There is no better or worse within this situation. It is a choice. There is a difference in the action and the affectingness in consciousness in your choice of how you shall be disengaging your body consciousness, but no choice is better or worse. They are merely different choices. In choosing the action of cremation you are choosing to be disengaging the body consciousness within a relatively quick time framework, therefore uniting the energy of the body consciousness with that of the objective consciousness which shall be within the area of transition. Each choice that you engage in conjunction with your disengagement of physical focus creates a different type of scenario within your movement in the area of transition.
As I have stated, it is not a rule that an individual shall be disengaging the body consciousness in this manner within a final focus, although it is common. It is also common that an individual within a final focus may choose another method, so to speak, of swift disengagement of the body consciousness; the assimilation of the energy into transitional areas quickly. Allowing for the continuation of the body consciousness within the choice and ritual of burial allows a continuation of partial elements of the body consciousness within physical focus. Therefore, there is not an entire assimilation within transition temporarily.” [session 269, March 19, 1998]
CAROLE: “Recently, my mother disengaged from physical focus. It was an extremely emotional time for everyone concerned, and I’m wondering ... my mom said that she had this thing where she wanted to have my younger brother, who in this physical focus is retarded, also disengage with her. Now, in an inner state of reality, I saw my mom with my brother staying in an apartment, and I went and got them. She was going to take her car somewhere, and I asked her for the car keys, and was putting them in a Volkswagen to take them away. I’ve had this same experience in imagery before, in helping people transition or being there while people transition. Is she in a probable reality? Did my brother disengage physical focus with her also in a probable reality, as he didn’t according to this reality, and that is now what she’s experiencing? Is that what I viewed?
ELIAS: An aspect of is experiencing this action and interacting with the probable reality, for she is engaging transition and therefore also aware of the probable realities and interactive with them.
CAROLE: Okay, and what is her choice in direction right now in her most probable probability, maybe not one of the spin-off aspects? I keep seeing her in transition where we are exchanging energy, and it seems as though she’s working through a lot of belief systems that she’s still mired in from this physical focus.
ELIAS: Absolutely. This individual has held many very strong belief systems within this particular focus. This individual also chooses remanifestation. Therefore, there are aspects of the belief systems that shall be, in the most probable probability, retained and held into the new manifestation, although be understanding that each focus is a new creation. Therefore, there is one aspect of the focus that shall be manifest and IS manifest within simultaneous time, but essentially, the focus that you are familiar with shall engage the belief systems and move into non-physical area of consciousness.
This is not an action of fragmentation. This is the action of remanifestation, but not within what you view to be reincarnation, for each focus also continues within non-physical focus, but simultaneously an aspect of that focus may be choosing to remanifest and be experiencing a continuation of physical focus. All of this occurs simultaneously. Therefore, this creates confusion in individuals holding belief systems of reincarnation.
In this situation she is engaging the action of transition, and to your terms has just begun this action of transition. This translates into your time framework, within your perception of physical focus, to be much of a time period. Therefore, you may anticipate that within your awareness of time framework within this physical focus, this individual shall be in transition for what you term to be many years, although to the individual it does not appear to be the same type of time framework.
Within non-physical transition you shall continue to experience a time framework temporarily, for you continue to hold an objective awareness. This continues the perception of time, but it appears differently, for you are no longer within physical focus and a linear time framework. The individual experiences all of the viewings of all of the focuses simultaneously, but in choosing remanifestation, the belief systems held by all of the focuses are not addressed to. Only the belief systems that have been held within the individual focus are addressed to in this type of transitional state. Were this to be a final focus, the transitional action would be different, for all of the belief systems in relation to all of the focuses would be addressed to. This is an action of shedding belief systems and objective awareness, enabling the focus to move into non-physical areas of consciousness which do not hold belief systems or objective awareness. The action of shedding the belief systems with this individual has not yet begun.
CAROLE: I’ve been seeing her. I feel like this is also part of my being in a final focus and my transition, having so much activity with her with energy exchanges in these other areas of consciousness. I can feel myself like blowing up larger and larger, sending her energy, and her with these angry belief systems sending me energy. I can experience it so much in that dream state, just as if it’s happening in the physical state. I can feel my body, or what seems like a body.
ELIAS: You are allowing yourself to be opening to the action of transition, offering yourself more information that you may more efficiently engage your own transitional state. This individual has moved into this area of transition non-physically, but merely views presently the belief systems, and has not begun to engage these belief systems to this present moment.
CAROLE: That’s what it seems like to me in the information that I bring back. When I look at it, it seems like she hasn’t moved yet.
ELIAS: Correct. Within the initial throes of non-physical transition, many individuals enter an area that you may term to be a hold, a rest point, so to speak, where they do not engage belief systems at all, and continue for what you view as a time framework within an action that appears to be very similar to physical focus.
CAROLE: Yeah, I keep seeing her in bed recuperating, and I help her, start to take care of her again, and it’s almost like she wants to continue that.
ELIAS: Correct. This offers a familiarity, which is also an aspect of transitioning; moving from physical focus into non-physical focus. Therefore, you may view within your perception ‘stages,’ so to speak.
Initially, the first stage, in your terms, is to be creating imagery that objectively seems familiar to you, continuing to be creating imagery that appears very similar to physical focus. As this is adjusted to and the recognition becomes more obvious to the individual focus that they no longer occupy physical focus, the action of addressing to belief systems becomes more clear, and in this the focus moves into the action of addressing to and moving through belief systems, eventually moving into the position of shedding these belief systems, and the objective awareness becomes less and less.” [session 272, April 05, 1998]
ELIAS: “I have stated many times, this shift in consciousness is limited to this dimension. This is YOUR choice within this dimension upon this planet in this reality, and in this you may be allowing yourselves to drop these veils within your singularly focused attention and allow yourselves to be interactive and viewing of so very much more of your reality that you create within essence. This offers you the opportunity to view and participate within the action of transition, which until recently, so to speak, in relative terms, individuals have chosen merely to engage the action of transition after disengaging physical focus.
Disengagement of physical focus, as you are most probably aware, is that moment that you choose, which you DO choose, to be disengaging of this manifestation, or what you commonly address to be death. I do not choose to engage the word death, for there is no death. There is merely emergence, which is birth. Therefore, at the moment of disengagement, you are birthed, not ‘deathed.’ (Grinning, obviously pleased with the word ‘deathed.’ Elias is full of himself tonight!)
But within this action of being birthed and an emergence, you enter into an action which is termed to be a transition. This transition is to be shedding completely of the objective awareness and the belief systems held within the objective awareness, that you may re-emerge – not newly emerge, but re-emerge – yourselves into non-physical focus and move into whatever direction you choose to move within, for you are within a continual state of becoming, and that is what you are. Therefore, if you inquire, ‘What am I?’ or ‘Who am I?,’ you are essence and you are within a continual state of becoming. This is consciousness. This is essence. This is you.” [session 284, May 30, 1998]
MICHAEL: “I asked something of the dead, and I was wondering if they heard me.
ELIAS: Let me express to you: first of all, in response to your question, yes. But also let me continue with this answer, that you may hold more clarity. As you speak of the dead, these are focuses of essences that have merely emerged from physical focus into another area of consciousness, but in terms of reality are very much alive!
In this, many individuals communicate to individual focuses or groupings of focuses, that which you term to be persons. I express the terminology of focus. Many individuals pray, many individuals speak, many individuals communicate with these focuses, these other individuals that they perceive to be in some ‘beyond.’ In actuality, if you are focusing your attention within the belief systems of death and are expressing to focuses ... or the dead, for within belief systems this indicates individuals that have lived physically manifest and have died. Therefore, it is a classification, and in actuality, what you are speaking to are those focuses which occupy an area which is termed to be transition.
Now; individuals occupying an area of consciousness of transition and engaging the action of transition non-physically shall hear you, so to speak, but shall also for the most part not concern themselves with one individual focus, for they occupy the area of transition in which all of their focuses are occurring simultaneously objectively before them, and in this their action is to be shedding all of their belief systems which have been held within physical focus, and to also be moving away and shedding their objective awareness, moving into complete subjective awareness, that they may move into other areas of consciousness and continue upon their choices of becoming.
Now; I may also qualify and express to you that there are areas of consciousness which are occupied by essences which are non-physically focused which are directly involved with physical focuses. Therefore, in accessing these essences, you may also access helpfulness and a tremendous lending of energy.
In accessing essences – the ‘dead’ within transition – you may communicate much, and what you may receive is mischief, for one focus is merely one camera lens in thousands to these individuals within transition. Therefore, it matters not their expression, and many times they may be quite mischievous – not hurtful, but mischievous and playful – which may be interpreted within physical focus as fearful or hurtful, although it is not, but within your belief systems it may hold this interpretation.
Therefore, I shall offer you the suggestion that you may direct your energy and your attention to this area of Regional Area 3 in consciousness, which holds one aspect of transition [and] another aspect of mass consciousness or collective consciousness directly associated with this particular dimension. But also, there is an element of Regional Area 3 that is occupied by those essences which choose to be interactive with, interconnected to, and helpful to individuals occupying Regional Area 1, which is you. Regional Area 1 is your waking reality within this particular dimension.
There are essences that manifest also into focuses in this particular dimension, which are associated and connected with essence within Regional Area 3, which concentrate upon loosening the barriers and the veils between yourselves within your objective awareness within your reality in this dimension and essence within non-physical areas. In this, you may direct your inquiries and your wishes to these essences, which shall be much more helpful than these essences occupying transition, for their focus is different. Their attention is directed differently.” [session 285, June 11, 1998]
ELIAS: “The only holding area within consciousness is the area of transition, which holds its own very precise action, and in this your species within this particular dimension would be the only participant in the action of transition, for your species is that which holds the belief systems that need be shed. All other species do not hold the belief systems. Therefore, it is unnecessary. As they move into disengagement of this particular physical reality, their energy is instantaneously remanifest and reconfigured into another form and they need hold no lag, so to speak, for there is no shedding of belief systems. There is a slight disengagement of objective awareness, but even their objective awareness is quite different than that of your own.
As I have stated and you may access within the information offered previously, all of your other creations within this dimension engage much more subjective awareness than objective, and although they may be engaging in waking objective state, they also engage in their subjective state much more.
Look to your creatures and view how very much they engage their sleep state as opposed to your sleep state! They do not work in the fashion that you create within your belief systems. This is that they engage subjectively much more. Therefore, although they do not enter into an area of transition, they instantaneously shed the objective awareness, for they do not hold tightly to objective awareness. This would be applicable to your vegetation also.” [session 287, June 18, 1998]
ELIAS: “There are many elements involved in the manifestation of the final focus, for there are actions that you are choosing to incorporate, there are directions that you move into, and there are also quite natural feelings attached.
I shall express to you that it is quite common for individuals within a final focus to become discontented with this physical manifestation – tired of, anxious, impatient, a longing for a moving into non-physical areas, but also an insatiable thirst for information concerning physical focus and non-physical elements of consciousness.
Many individuals within this present time period, as designated as the final focus of essence, move in the direction of creating the action of transition while they are continuing within physical focus.
Now; let me express to you that it is not necessary to be a final focus to be choosing to be experiencing transition within physical focus, but within this time period and within the action of this shift, many final focuses are choosing to be entering the action of transition objectively and NOT creating of senility.
Now; your family member is creating of senility, which in actuality is the creation of entering into the action of transition while continuing in physical focus, but this individual is not a final focus. Therefore, the choice is to be creating in alignment with the officially accepted reality in this dimension, and that moves into the area of senility. In this, the behavior is accepted. It is excused and accepted. Therefore, the individual may fully move into the action of transition – experiencing simultaneous time at different time periods, experiencing much more subjective awareness and activity, and merely popping in and out of objective awareness to be ‘checking in,’ so to speak, but creating a reality that allows them to move into an intensity of the action of transition that most individuals reserve until after disengagement of the focus.
SALLY: Oh, I see!
ELIAS: Let me express to you that many more individuals within this time period are experiencing the creation of senility, but they are also, in conjunction with the action of this shift, moving into the direction of discontinuing this creation entirely. Your sciences shall be credited with their ‘cure.’ In actuality, it is the choice en masse of the individuals to be discontinuing this action, for it is unnecessary within the action of this shift. In this, there is an allowance that your sciences shall be allowed the belief system that they have created the cure for this dis-ease ... which is not a dis-ease! It is a very purposeful choice.” [session 294, July 01, 1998]
GAIL: “I have questions about my interaction and experiences with Tom, before his death and after. (10) I’m aware of a change in the last four months of Tom’s physical focus. What change was that? Can you explain?
ELIAS: James [Tom] has been within interaction with myself for much time period previous to this action of disengagement. In this interaction there has been an ongoing movement into the direction of this action of disengagement and there has been many belief systems held and also much emotion of guilt held within physical focus, which now is affecting of the area of consciousness which is occupied and the creations that he surrounds himself with presently.
But within physical focus, the movement was intently directed into the motion of creating the action of disengagement and the allowance for the excuse, so to speak, or the permission to be engaging in release of geysers that have been in place in conjunction to certain shrines that were not disassembled during physical focus. Are you understanding?
ELIAS: Presently, James [Tom], or the focus of James which you know to be as that individual that you have called Tom, has not entered into the area of transition yet, but occupies another area of consciousness which is quite common to individuals disengaging that continue to hold very strong belief systems and emotional attachments to physical focus. He shall be eventually moving into the area of transition, but at this present now is not within that area or action yet.
GAIL: I have another question. Why did I draw this experience of Tom’s death to myself?
ELIAS: This offers you information into the area of what occurrences may be incurred once you are choosing to be disengaging physical focus in certain situations and given that you are continuing to hold strongly to belief systems and issues which you hold within a particular physical focus. In this you offer yourself information as to this action, for within yourself there are longings, not necessarily to be disengaging in this type of manner, but there are longings within you to be moving into other areas of consciousness and to be exploring these areas of consciousness. In drawing yourself to this particular set of probabilities, so to speak, you offer yourself information in the area of allowing yourself to view more of the actions of the occurrences subsequent to disengagement.
It is not always automatic that you immediately move into the area of transition, into this action of transition. Even if you are engaging the action of transition within physical focus, you may move yourself into a temporary state of consciousness which is outside of the action of transition once choosing to be disengaging from physical focus, dependent upon your issues and your belief systems which are held within physical focus. Therefore, in drawing yourself to this action you also offer yourself the opportunity to view emotions, the opportunity to view the placement of this information into what you may term to be more of a working order within your focus, more of a reality as opposed to a concept, and also you draw this experience to yourself to be clarifying other actions that may be confusing to you.
GAIL: Hmm. Was Tom engaging in the action of transition while we were together?
ELIAS: At times, partially, but not entirely and not moving into the fullness of this action.
GAIL: Hmm. Was Tom’s choice of disengagement directly connected to the shift, or was it a personal choice?
ELIAS: This would be a situation of an individual, personal choice which has been directly related to personal issues and held belief systems which were not allowed to be addressed to.
... You hold the ability to move into all of these areas that I have expressed to you previously. In this you also hold the ability to be moving into interaction objectively with individuals that occupy the area of transition and offering yourself more of an understanding of the action of transition, for your engagement with any individual within this action of transition non-physically shall prove to you the discounting, so to speak, of the belief systems that you hold so very strongly in relation to this action of transition and the singularity of each focus, for as you allow yourself to engage interaction with any individual within the action of non-physical transition, you also allow yourself a participation partially in this transitional action.
In that participation of experience, you shall share the experience of the mergence of all focuses, therefore offering yourself the information that all is not so very singular and that one particular focus, in the midst of viewing ALL focuses within transition ONLY, may appear to hold much less significance temporarily than your belief systems dictate to you within physical focus.
Now; within the action that you have engaged, you are moving in a very beginning motion into an allowance of piercing a veil to be interactive with individuals within the action of non-physical transition. You have not moved entirely into this action or allowed yourself a complete viewing of this, nor have you entirely pierced the veil, but you have initiated a beginning.
GAIL: ... Is Tom aware of our interaction today?
ELIAS: Not objectively, for the individual occupies an area of consciousness, as I have expressed, which you may term to be between physical focus and non-physical transition action. Therefore, in this state of consciousness, what shall occupy the individual’s attention and interaction shall be the creation of their own belief systems and strongly held issues.
(Vic’s note: The following was delivered very intently and very emphatically, and with more seriousness than Elias usually displays.)
ELIAS: This is NOT a negative action. Be understanding of this! Energy must be expressed. Energy is ALWAYS expressed, and if it is not allowed its natural expression, it shall express itself in other manners. Once disengaging physical focus, the energy shall be expressed in a natural manner which shall be creating of imagery in alignment with those issues which have not been addressed to within physical focus.
Now; I express to you strongly, this is NOT – underline not – a reviewing of your lifetime, so to speak. It is NOT karma. It is NOT punishment. It is NOT an automatic action that is created by some outside force which moves you into the area of accountability. It is a CHOICE which is automatically entered into after disengagement to be releasing objectively held energy in the area which has been held in shrines and issues which were not chosen to be engaged or moved through within physical focus.
Therefore, there is engaged a TEMPORARY – underline temporary – situation with these individuals that they shall engage before the action of transition, a shedding or a releasing of this held or pent-up energy which is directly related to one individual focus, therefore allowing more of an ease and a balance once moving into the area of transition and the action of viewing all focuses and of meshing all focuses in the shedding of objective awareness.
Now; within a final focus, if issues are held tightly and not chosen to be addressed to or moved through within physical focus, many times the individual focus shall choose to create this in-between state temporarily, for the action of transition is slightly different in the engagement of a final focus than would it be in the engagement of not a final focus.
This particular individual was/is a final focus. Therefore, the action of transition shall be different from an individual focus that is not a final focus. The intensity is slightly greater and the action in your physical terms may be termed to be slightly longer, for there is no choice for a remanifestation.
Now; I am quite understanding that these terms are confusing to you all, for the terms are inadequate in the area of words such as remanifestation. For as I have expressed to you, you are not used parts and you do not remanifest, although an aspect of you may, and this may also be confusing to you, as in reality there is no RE-manifestation, for all of your manifestations are simultaneous. Therefore, you may not repeat or re-enter, for that is a designation of linear time which is merely relative to physical focus and not to non-physical focus.
In this, the individual of Tom, the focus of Tom, has entered into an area of consciousness, as I have stated, of in-between, that he may be releasing this energy; which in this particular situation, the most strongly held energy which was chosen not to be addressed to and not moved through is that of the emotion of guilt, which is a very strong lack of acceptance of self. To be facilitating more of an ease in entering into the action of transition non-physically, he has chosen initially to be addressing to these issues, to this emotion of guilt and the lack of acceptance of self within that particular focus, and in this action, the occurrence and the creation of this is that the individual presently creates a scenario in full imagery, in very like manner to your physically focused imagery, that shall be addressing to these particular issues solely.” [session 296, July 13, 1998]
ELIAS: “Already individuals engage the action of out-of-body experiences more and more frequently, and allow themselves the trust within themselves to be accomplishing this action. Within this type of movement, you also move more fully into the experience of simultaneous time; not entirely, but you do allow yourselves a partial accessing of understanding in the area of simultaneous time.
This also is quite helpful and purposeful for those individuals within final focuses within this dimension that are engaging the action of transition while continuing to be physically manifest. As I have stated previously, not much of your time framework shall continue before you are accessing what you term to be your cure for senility, or that dis-ease that you term to be Alzheimer’s. This is not a dis-ease. It is a choice to be engaging transition within physical focus, and the choice is created in the manner that is acceptable to your officially accepted reality; your officially accepted guidelines within your societies.
It is acceptable to be appearing senile. Therefore, individuals create this action to be engaging in transition within physical focus, but as you widen your awareness and you move more fully into your own opening to consciousness, you also offer yourselves information that this action is no longer necessary. It is unnecessary to be appearing to be displaying lunacy merely to be excusing yourselves within your action of transition within physical focus. Therefore, you shall offer yourselves your so-called cure for this dis-ease, and you shall allow yourselves the ability to engage this action of transition without its camouflage.(Intently) Within the action of transition, you view your focuses simultaneously. They are in actuality all occurring at once within all dimensions. Therefore, you begin by examining the simultaneousness of this one particular focus, and then you allow yourselves to move into the area of viewing all of your focuses simultaneously. Now; individuals already engage this action within physical focus, but they also camouflage this action. You shall allow yourselves the ability to NOT camouflage, but it is important that you hold an understanding of the reality of simultaneous time, that you do not confuse yourselves as you enter into viewing it.
I have expressed an analogy previously of one hundred televisions. One hundred televisions occupy a room. You are the room. All of the televisions are your focuses, and they are all playing at once. They all display different programs – not one is the same – and you view them all simultaneously. And how confusing may this be to you, to be connecting with each of them and all of them and understanding all of them all at once, if you are not holding an understanding of simultaneous time? Each of these focuses are you, although they each hold their own integrity and are not you. There are many aspects of you that you do not view yet, but you shall.
JEN: ... I’ll pass that along! I have one question. When you and I last spoke, we were talking about disengagement a little bit, and I wondered about the ability of essences to recognize one another in other dimensions, non-physical dimensions.
ELIAS: Absolutely, although let me express to you that within the area of transition this would be different, for you continue to hold an objective awareness for what you may view to be a time framework, and within that action of transition, of shedding the belief systems and the objective awareness, you do not allow yourself to engage in a recognition of other essences, generally speaking.
JEN: Hmm. Thanks.
ELIAS: This is not to say that you do not recognize focuses. You shall recognize focuses of other essences, but not the essence.
JEN: I can recognize focuses of other essences, but not the essence?
ELIAS: Correct, for you hold objective awareness within the action of transition. Therefore, you may recognize the focuses, in like manner to your recognition of focuses presently. You may look to another individual and recognize this other individual. This is another focus of another essence. You do not view the essence, but you do recognize the focus, for you are holding your attention within your objective awareness. As you move out of the action of transition, so to speak, you shall allow yourself to be recognizing of essence.
JEN: So you are out of the stage of transition?
JEN: So then you can recognize essence AND focus.
ELIAS: Correct.” [session 298, July 16, 1998]
MARI: “I have an 86-year-old father who is living with me. I’ve just brought him from Oregon, and I love him very much, and I know he loves me. He is deteriorating, as far as physical health. Is there any information that you could give that would help him, or anything I can do to help him to make him more comfortable, or whatever you see that would be appropriate?
ELIAS: This individual has already begun moving into the action of transition within physical focus. The attention within this particular focus in this present now moves away from the maintenance of the physical body and therefore there is what you term to be a deterioration of the physical body, for the subjective communication and interaction with the physical body is moving farther and farther away, so to speak, in a figurative manner of speaking.
In this, the removal of the subjective interaction and communication with the physical body creates a physical affectingness. This also is not what you may term to be bad or negative, so to speak, for the attention now is focused into other areas, which it concerns itself in the direction of moving into the action of transition, preparing for the entering of non-physical transition futurely and more of an easement through non-physical transition, as it shall be partially accomplished within physical focus.
MARI: He doesn’t believe in an afterlife, and I’ve tried to tell him, ‘Well, you may have a pleasant surprise coming, and if you do cross over, would you please come and say good-bye to me if you can?’ I’m trying to help him ease into it, at least from my point of view, so he feels a little better about it. Has that been helping, or does he just discount it?
ELIAS: In many respects, it is being discounted. But let me also express to you that you all hold a knowing subjectively that there is no death; there is merely an emergence from one area of consciousness to another area of consciousness. Therefore, your expression is being received. It is merely being received and assimilated subjectively and not necessarily objectively. But it matters not that the individual holds the belief system that at the moment of disengagement there shall be no continuation, for at the moment of disengagement he shall hold the remembrance of essence partially, and shall move into the action of non-physical transition regardless. Therefore, he shall be connecting with this information himself.
You may offer supportiveness to him in merely expressing acceptance of him and of his expressions, and in this, this shall offer a lovingness which shall be accepted, and this shall aid in an easement into non-physical transition.” [session 299, July 19, 1998]
PAUL: “I have a sense that as individuals now and in the future disengage and die, in the action of this shift and this change and transition, that there’s a relationship between the action of transition that those focuses will be experiencing. I guess what I’m saying is, the shift also includes the experience of transition in this time and in the future, and is related somehow to the continuing physically focused people during the shift. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Partially. There is a similarity in certain elements of transition and certain elements of this shift in consciousness.
The base line of action of accomplishment within transition and this shift in consciousness are different, for within one there is an acceptance but continuation of belief systems, and within the other there is an action of shedding belief systems and also disengaging objective awareness. Therefore, there are some elements of these two actions that differ greatly, in your terms, but in other areas, there are some actions that are incorporated similarly.
Many of the experiences that you may hold, if engaging transition within physical focus, may be quite similar or the same as many of the experiences that you shall hold in widening your awareness and engaging this shift in consciousness.
Once this shift in consciousness has been completed, so to speak, in your terms, the actions of transition and of this shift in consciousness shall be in many areas quite the same, and you may not be distinguishing within the two. They also shall be quite common. This shall be your reality, in a manner of speaking. Therefore, the action of transition shall not appear strange or outside of your norm, so to speak, but shall be accepted as officially accepted behavior, for you all shall be engaged in very similar experiences.
As I have stated previously, one of the actions that shall be engaged in the accomplishment of this shift in consciousness is to be dropping the veil between this physical dimension and the movement into non-physical areas of consciousness that you view to be related to death, which would be transition non-physically. Therefore, you shall hold the ability to be objectively communicating with individuals that have disengaged.
Presently there remains a veil in this area, and in that action, as you have created that veil, individuals that are engaging the action of transition non-physically do not hold their attention singularly to any particular area of this physical dimension. This be the reason that there is a presentment of difficulty in the situations of individuals inquiring with respect to what you term to be loved ones, friends, or relatives that have disengaged physical focus and are engaging the action of transition. I hold an awareness that your desire or your want in these types of inquiries is to be validated that the individual continues beyond death and is remembering of you.
This poses difficulties with many individuals, for these are very closely associated emotionally and may be very affecting of individuals. Simultaneously, within my intent and following that intent, I choose not to be reinforcing your belief systems. Therefore, the presentment of information in this particular area may not be addressed at times, for there is no choice engaged to be hurtful to any individual, but there is also no choice being engaged to be reinforcing of belief systems, as to the occurrence once an individual has disengaged and their focus of attention.
But as to your question, these areas shall not be so severely separated within the accomplishment of this shift. Therefore, you shall hold a clearer understanding of the action which occurs within transition physically and non-physically. You shall also hold a greater understanding, for you shall allow yourselves in not engaging transition very similar experiences.
You allow yourselves understanding of certain situations if you are also engaging the experiences. In this, you shall offer yourselves more of an ease within your movements and your acceptance, for you also shall hold very similar experiences.” [session 377, March 23, 1999]
CLAIRE: “Well, my parents passed away – they died about ten or eleven years ago – and I just want to know if they are in heaven and if they’re happy, both of them.
ELIAS: Interesting question! Let me express to you that both of these individuals engage an action which we term to be transition.
In this action of transition, as an individual disengages from physical focus, or in your terms chooses death – which is not death, but merely an emergence into a different country, a different type of reality – as the individuals engage this action, they move from this physical dimension, which holds many, many, many beliefs.
In this action of transition, they shed the beliefs that are associated with this physical reality. This enables – in a manner of speaking – their consciousness to be moving into new areas of exploration that do not involve belief systems.
Now; within your physical terms, you think in linear terms in amounts of years. Therefore, you may view ten, twenty, thirty years to be an extensive time period. Within consciousness, there is no time. Therefore, it is not experienced in the manner that you experience time within physical form. In this, what you express to be these amounts of years may be to those individuals a mere blink.
As they have engaged transition, I express to you that within the initial movement of transition, many individuals do not necessarily shed these belief systems immediately, so to speak. Many individuals engage the action in which these two individuals are presently engaging, that of your mother more so than that of the other parent. This would be an exploration – in a manner of speaking, a playing with imagery. Within this area of transition, the individual focus holds the ability to be creating whatever type of imagery they are so choosing.
Some individuals engage the action of transition quite seriously and attend to belief systems in what you would term to be immediately, and they are quite intensely focused in the shedding of their belief systems. Some individuals, conversely, as with the situation of your parents, hold a fascination with their ability to be creating of different types of imagery at will. Therefore, they do not concern themselves immediately with this shedding of belief systems, for in a manner of speaking, they are playing with their reality! (Grinning)
MARISA: Oh, great! I wonder what they’re doing! (Laughing)
ELIAS: In this playfulness, there is, many times, moments that the energy may be felt by individuals within physical focus, such as yourself. There is momentary periods in which individuals within physical focus may experience twinges or a knowing of a presence or certain unusual experiences that within physical focus you express to yourselves is merely your imagination and not necessarily reality.
I express to you, in these situations, the individuals – the focuses which are moving within transition – are not projecting themselves back, in your terms, to physical locations or physical reality, but in a manner of speaking, their energy in this playfulness is ‘spilling’ and is felt by individuals within physical focus, for you are all connected. There is no separation. You merely view that there is a separation, for your attention is very singularly focused within physical creations, but there is a very thin veil – very thin – between yourselves and the individuals that you view to be dead.
I express to you that the area of transition within consciousness is a very closely related layer of consciousness to physical focus. You engage with myself, (grinning) and the area of consciousness that I occupy is quite removed from this physical dimension, but the reality and the possibility of engaging another essence and experiencing the energy of that essence, such as myself, is evident.
Therefore, why shall you be surprised if you are experiencing moments that you feel the energy of those individuals that you know, and you hold a knowing of the identification of their energy? They are within an area of consciousness that is, in your terms, divided from you by a very thin film.
Therefore, as to the response to your questioning [of] if they are happy, they are playful. Happiness translates differently within other areas of consciousness, but within a translation to your understanding, I may respond affirmative, yes, although it is a different quality within other areas of consciousness. It is a different experience.
It is likened, as I have expressed previously, to another country. If you are allowing yourself to be traveling to a different country in which you do not speak the language, you shall encounter many wonders, for it is very unfamiliar to you, but there shall be much to explore and you shall fit regardless, for you continue to be within your element, in a manner of speaking. You shall continue to be upon your planet with your species.
Within consciousness, you are you. It matters not that you manifest within a physical body. What is you and your identity far exceeds this physical manifestation. Therefore, you continue to be you within other areas of consciousness. You merely allow yourselves different experiences, different explorations.
And I express to you also, you may engage these individuals if you are so choosing, for you may be allowing yourself to be connecting with their energy, for they are not so intensely focused upon the activity of shedding beliefs ... yet! Is this helpful?
CLAIRE: Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.” [session 390, May 01, 1999]
KATIE: “Okay. I’ve also ... I’m at a loss for words. This is unusual! (Elias chuckles) I can usually talk a mile a minute! But this imagery I’ve had lately of transition ... I’m wondering, have I engaged the action of transition myself? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes. You have engaged this action of transition, being lent energy within this present physical year.
Let me also express to you, as I have expressed previously with other individuals: there is importance, within this particular physical time framework of this year, that you be allowing yourself an awareness of the tremendous energy which has been lent within this time framework.
This is the final year of your century and your millennium. Much energy has been lent to this time framework. Therefore, you each draw upon this energy to facilitate an ease in all of your expressions.
It matters not that you label your expressions good or bad. All of your expressions, all of your choices, all of your creations are lent energy by all of the projections of energy which are placed within this time framework. Therefore, there also shall appear within your perception to be an acceleration of all of your actions.
As you choose to be initiating the action of transition, you shall thrust yourself into experiences of transition more intensely, more quickly than you may within other time frameworks, for you draw upon the energy which is lent within this time framework, and it shall facilitate much more movement than would be within other time frameworks.
This also is in movement with this shift in consciousness. As you move into your new millennium, the acceleration of this shift in consciousness becomes more evident objectively and you begin to move much more rapidly.” [session 395, May 16, 1999]
LESLIE: “Yesterday morning, I was going to the doctor. I left the house headed in the direction that I thought was the doctor. All of a sudden, it dawned on me, I didn’t have any idea where the doctor was! I made a U-turn, went a few more blocks, made another U-turn and went back the other way, and for not a very long time – it seemed too long at the time, of course – I knew how to get home, but I had no idea where the doctor was. What was that all about?
ELIAS: This is an action of transition. I express to you, yes, you hold an awareness, within that experience and within that moment, in how to be returning to what you view to be home or familiar, but you hold difficulty in moving to your destination.
In this, you are creating objective imagery outwardly and allowing yourself this type of physical experience in conjunction with your movement that you are engaging subjectively in certain aspects of this action of transition. You are moving into some unfamiliar areas within consciousness, as it relates to physical focus. It is not unfamiliar to you within essence, but within physical focus, certain aspects of reality and consciousness have become unfamiliar to you within your forgetting of the remembrance. Therefore, in this, you move into awarenesses of the action of simultaneous time and begin a movement into different actions which are occurring simultaneously within conscious[ness] [and] in yourself, so to speak, and this is objectively created in mirror action in a feeling of disorientation [and] partially a feeling of fearfulness and discomfort, for it is unfamiliar.
(Vic’s note: that entire sentence is unfamiliar!)
You are not entirely understanding, for you are not entirely objectively processing the information that you are experiencing, and in this element of disorientation, you allow yourself partially a stabilization by allowing yourself the remembrance of how to be returning, but not how to be reaching your destination.
LESLIE: I’m not sure I totally understand. Now, at that period of time when I didn’t know how to get anywhere except home, are you saying it was like a projection that I was trying to do in my car?
ELIAS: No. I am expressing to you that you are experiencing an element of the action of transition, and in this, you are creating inwardly and outwardly simultaneously, in like fashion to each other. Therefore, your objective creation is the disorientation and the lack of remembrance, which is displayed to you in physical terms, and this creates an element of fearfulness, for you do not understand.
In this, you may be remembering how to be returning home, but you are not quite remembering how to be moving on!
LESLIE: Ah! Okay, that makes sense. Now, just now when we were talking – and yesterday – I got this overwhelming ... almost like a blackout, like I started to pass out. It happened yesterday and it happened just now when I was talking to you, where I got like dizzy and started to black out. Now, is all of this part of what’s going on right now with me with the transition?
ELIAS: Correct. This is what you may term to be an energy surge.
LESLIE: Oh, okay. That blackout thing was an energy surge?
LESLIE: Oh, okay. Well, it’s nice to know these things!” (Laughing, and Elias chuckles) [session 409, June 02, 1999]
RODNEY: “I have some family members who have inflicted a great deal of pain on themselves lately, and one of them just gave himself a massive heart attack in that direction, and that again was an example. I asked him if he would have any interest in opening to spiritual healing practices to help him with his sickness, and he essentially said no, that he was not prepared to do that, and I sense that I was ... I don’t know how deeply disappointed, but I certainly was disappointed that he would not open to that a little bit.
ELIAS: Quite, and this is, once again, the expression of which we have been speaking.
RODNEY: Right, right. And then he up and dies three days later! Part of me just wants to walk away from that mentally and not even think about it.
ELIAS: Quite! How very inconsiderate of this individual to not be accepting of your expression, and then to be so rude as to be disengaging before he is accepting of your expression! HA HA!
RODNEY: We do get a little selfish, don’t we?
ELIAS: I express to you, Zacharie [Rodney], be of lightheartedness! All is not so very intensely serious as you view it to be! (Chuckling)
RODNEY: (Laughing) Thank you! I really appreciate your being around, Elias, to say that to me.
ELIAS: HA HA!
RODNEY: It means a great deal. Thank you again and again and again!
ELIAS: I express to you that each individual is creating choices that shall be beneficial to them.
Now; in this situation, be understanding that this particular individual has chosen not to be accepting of influences and information offered through the forum of other mere mortals, so to speak. Therefore, within his belief systems, he has chosen to be creating of the action of disengagement, and in that action, prior to the movement into the action of transition, has chosen to be creating actual imagery in conjunction with his physically focused belief systems, offering himself an avenue to move into the position of transition in the knowing, so to speak, of remanifestation into the final throes of this shift in consciousness and offering himself the presentment of imagery of ‘entities’ which hold more knowing and powerfulness than mere mortals.
(Vic’s note: Elias is using the term ‘mere mortals’ quite lightly!)
Now; be remembering, these are all projections of belief systems and is merely the projection of imagery, in like manner to what you view within physical focus as holograms, but it shall speak to him.
In this – once again – there is the presentment to you that each individual shall be receiving information and shall be assimilating in accordance with their perception, which is their reality.
In this, it may be chosen quite differently from your reality, but they shall be offering themselves the same directions, so to speak, for you are all moving in harmony with each other in the same direction, accomplishing the same movement of inserting this shift in consciousness into your official reality within this dimension. You merely are participating in this action in different manners.
RODNEY: Okay. Alright. I thank you for that.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.” [session 416, June 27, 1999]
RODNEY: “Our last session together was just fantastic! I transcribed the whole thing by hand, and I’m not accustomed to doing that, and I have a couple of questions regarding it.
In it, you spoke of a hologram. I was speaking of my family member who recently passed away, and it was in the context of my wanting to be of influence with him, and his rejecting that influence. And in your discussion of that with me ... and incidentally, as a byline here, I did suffer severe lower back problems, and I continually referred back to the description of how I create that conflict that you gave me, and I do believe that it was incredibly helpful. I’ve recovered quite well, thank you.
But in that discussion – it’s actually my brother-in-law – you spoke of him ... instead of accepting information from such mere mortals as I, that he did allow himself to get information through a hologram, one that he actually spoke with. Did I understand that correctly, that he was interacting with a vision prior to his transition?
ELIAS: What I have expressed to you is that the individual has offered himself information that shall be helpful within the action of transition.
Now; as to the concept of the hologram, what I am expressing to you is – as we have been discussing already in this session – a translation of an action which occurs within nonphysical areas of consciousness that is designated as transition. I shall be clear.
In this, what I have expressed to you is a translation, a figurative idea or picture that you may identify with and understand as to the action that occurs within the area of transition nonphysically.
Now; what the individual is creating within certain throes of that action of transition is a projection of their belief systems into what they may view as an actual objective reality.
Now; we shall approach this slowly, that you may understand, but be remembering, this is figurative and it is a translation, for I am expressing to you nonphysical actions which you do not have translatable identifications for accurately.
ELIAS: Therefore, in this, as an individual focus disengages from this physical dimension – or what you term to be dies – that focus, that individual enters into the beginning throes of an area of consciousness which is identified as transition.
In this action of transition – for it is not a place – but in this action of transition, initially the individual retains their objective awareness in very like manner to physical focus.
They have not yet moved into the area of the presentment of all of their focuses simultaneously. They merely project singularly their objective awareness and materialize the scenarios of their belief systems.
Now; this you may liken to a hologram, for it does not hold the solidity in quality that your physical dimension holds, although it may APPEAR that it holds that same type of solidity.
In this, think of your concepts that you present yourselves with presently in your science fiction. In your technology of your science fiction presently, you project the idea of holograms as holding the quality of such solidity that they appear to be actual reality. Are you following?
ELIAS: Very well.
In this, what I am expressing to you is that an individual focus that has disengaged or has died within physical focus moves to the action of transition, in which they continue to hold temporarily the same – or almost the same – quality of objective awareness as they held while they were participating in physical focus. Therefore, the area of transition appears to them to be quite similar.
In this, they shall create the imagery or the hologram, so to speak, of very similar creations – the same earth, the same human beings, the same creatures, the same vegetation, the same structures. All of these elements are familiar to them and they are all intimately involved with their belief systems, and as they are continuing to project through an objective awareness, they create a type of holographic imagery that appears to be solid and appears very similar to your reality within physical focus.
Now; an individual may continue in this type of creation for some time framework, in your terms. Be remembering once again, this is figurative, for within nonphysical areas of consciousness there is no time framework, but within your concept it may translate into a time framework.
Therefore, the individual may continue in this type of creation of this holographic imagery for an extended time framework appearance, not yet moving into the actual action of transition, which is the shedding of belief systems, for the actual action of transition initiates and continues the viewing of all focuses simultaneously.
This action, incorporating the individual’s belief systems which have not been shed yet, would be creating of tremendous trauma and confusion were the individual to project themselves entirely into the action of transition immediately following their disengagement of physical focus.
Therefore, individuals do not engage this type of action. They move into the action of transition as they allow themselves an acclimating time framework, in a manner of speaking, for as they continue within the initial throes of transition, they also hold a realization that what they are creating in objective imagery more and more deviates from the type of objective creations that were created within physical focus. They become less and less solid and more and more changeable.
In this, as they realize that their reality holds much greater suppleness and changeability, they also realize that what they are creating in their holographic imagery is directly based upon their beliefs, but in difference to physical reality. You may hold an awareness that what you are creating within your reality is directly influenced by your belief systems to a point, but it holds a very different quality, for your physical dimension holds a solidity.
You do not question your belief systems as you view a wall. You do not question your belief systems as you view a structure. You do not view the structure and express to yourself that this is a projection of imagery based upon your beliefs. You merely accept that this is what you create within physical focus and that it is solid.
In this, you create another belief which expresses to you that solidity is absolute.
RODNEY: Ah, the absolute again!
ELIAS: Within nonphysical projections of imagery, the individual becomes quite aware objectively that their creation is not as solid as it appears initially. They also become aware that the form of a thing is based upon their perception, which filters [through] their belief systems.
Therefore, as they alter their attention with belief systems, and move from one aspect of belief systems to another or examine their belief systems from one angle or another, their physical imagery also alters. In this, they demonstrate to themselves the lack of absoluteness and allow themselves a gradual ease into more of an understanding of their reality beyond belief systems.
This is the information that I was expressing to you in our last session concerning the action that this individual has engaged in creating this holographic imagery to himself, not entirely moving into the action of transition in force, so to speak....
RODNEY: But it was preliminary to that.
RODNEY: It was moving in that direction.
ELIAS: He is not yet engaging the action in which he is viewing all of his focuses simultaneously.
RODNEY: Right, I understand that. This was a preliminary step in that direction.
RODNEY: Thank you. That’s very helpful.
My mother passed away about two years ago, and in the three or four or five months preceding her disengagement, her death, she was aware of ... she called them beings. She had visitors. She had little boys and little girls and people and horses. She was very aware of a great deal of activity that was taking place around her and she spoke about it a little bit, but she did not speak about it a lot.
At our last dinner together, actually one of the main dinners, which was the last Thanksgiving, my sister was laughing at the fact that while she was feeding my mother, who was ninety-seven at the time, my mother was trying to feed a cookie to a little girl who was there and who was an image that she knew was there.
I’m telling you this because I want to ask you if these were not also her projections of images, her holograms, so to speak, that she was creating in response to activities that were taking place in nonphysical consciousness around her disengaging from this reality.
ELIAS: Not entirely. Now; let me express to you the difference, for there are differences that are created by different individuals. This is entirely a choice of the individual.
We have spoken previously of the engagement of transition within physical focus. An individual may choose to be engaging transition while they are continuing within physical focus, and in this, they may be creating certain aspects of the transitional action while they continue to be engaging physical focus. This many times – but not always – creates a situation with that particular individual in which they do not engage much of this initial activity that we have spoken of this day subsequent to disengagement.
Therefore, what I am expressing to you is that generally speaking, if an individual is engaging transition within physical focus, they eliminate much of the need, so to speak – once again, figuratively speaking – to be creating of these initial holographic images before engaging the viewing of all of their focuses, for they have already begun engaging other focuses....
RODNEY: Are you saying that my mother was engaging in transition before her disengagement?
ELIAS: Correct, and in this, what she has allowed herself to be interacting with is other focuses of herself ...
ELIAS: ... therefore allowing herself the opportunity to move into the action of transition with very little activity of this holographic projection of imagery.
RODNEY: I see. Okay. Yeah, she seemed to be quite okay with the whole affair.
ELIAS: Quite, and I shall express to you that for the most part, individuals within physical focus do not hold fearfulness of these interactions within themselves.
At times, they may be responsive to OTHER individuals that are projecting their belief systems to them, in their expressions that it is unacceptable for them to be engaging invisible individuals, although the individuals are not invisible! They are merely not visible to your awareness, for you choose not to view them, but they are quite visible and quite real, and the individual that is interacting with them is quite aware of their presence and holds no element of fearfulness within themselves, left to themselves and not influenced by other individuals objectively surrounding them.
Now; they may be responsive at times to this type of action in questioning, and based upon THEIR belief systems that they hold individually, they may hold responsiveness in confusion and they may also rebel objectively with this type of interaction, for their belief systems dictate to them that this is unacceptable behavior and that they are experiencing lunacy.
RODNEY: That did not occur with my mother.
ELIAS: Correct. What I am expressing is that if you are....
RODNEY: If anything, she took it with ... I hesitate to use the word humorously, but she certainly was okay with it.
ELIAS: Quite, for this is not a threatening action. It is merely an interaction and viewing of other focuses of the individual, which is the direction which occurs within the action of transition.” [session 436, July 31, 1999]
LESLIE: “My dream – was the dream provided as an example of what happens when you disengage, for me?
LESLIE: It was WAY cool!
ELIAS: This in actuality is your presentment of imagery to yourself of the ease of movement.
Individuals within your physical dimension hold quite strong beliefs in association with death. One of these associations is that it is not a choice, another is that there is an incorporation of difficulty associated with death, and also that there shall be a dramatic alteration of yourself and your experience in engaging this action of death. In actuality, as you have offered to yourself within your imagery, it is merely a movement from one area of consciousness to another, which, as I have stated previously, is quite similar to physical movement that you create within your physical dimension. As you move from one physical location to another physical location, you are not necessarily altering all of your reality. You are merely moving from one location to another.
In very similar manner, the movement associated with the action or the choice of death is merely a movement, in a manner of speaking, from one location to another; but you move yourself with yourself from that one location to another. You continue to be you.
LESLIE: In the dream – it was really, really very short – but I was, my mind was like it is right this second, for instance, and just the body collapsed, and I thought, ‘Oh! Like that!’ But you know what? The fun part about it was there was no regret, like I didn’t want to leave or anything else like that. It was just like you move on. (Begins laughing) Well, you know the next thing I said was, ‘Elias? Where are you?’ kind of like let’s go play now! Like I’m done with that, so let’s go play!
ELIAS: Quite! It is merely...
LESLIE: But as you get older, too, you realize ... because I don’t know what I thought happened, you know, when I was younger. I don’t think I understood what ‘old’ meant. I guess I still don’t, really, because your mind never gets old; nothing changes there.
LESLIE: So it’s kind of a trick! (Elias laughs with Leslie) But now, people who are senile or ... is that what the bonking in and out is?
ELIAS: This is a manifestation of transition within physical focus, expressed in what you may term to be extreme.
LESLIE: So it’s a preparation for disengaging?
ELIAS: Not necessarily a preparation. It is a choice to be incorporating transition to a point, while continuing to engage physical focus.
LESLIE: Okay, but I don’t ... I’m having a hard time understanding what is the point of hanging out here if you’re going to be zoned out somewhere?
ELIAS: Individuals many times choose to be incorporating the action of transition while continuing to be occupying this physical focus, for the action of transition that they incorporate, in a manner of speaking, in imagery is less rapid, and in that movement it is expressed in more of a singularity. For as you engage the action of transition within physical focus, you continue to incorporate the design of this physical dimension and its expression, which is expressed in singularity. Therefore, it is expressed in a manner in which the attention is directed in a singularity of expression.
For example, within nonphysical expression of transition subsequent to disengagement of this physical dimension, you no longer incorporate the design of the physical dimension. Therefore, the attention is expressed in many directions simultaneously, for it is no longer adhering to the design or the blueprint of this physical dimension. Therefore, it is allowed to move in many directions simultaneously.
Many individuals choose to be incorporating the expression of what you term to be senility for it allows their attention to continue to function in association with the design of this physical dimension in singularity, but also allows them to be incorporating a type of ease into familiarity with the expression of transition.
An individual incorporating transition within physical focus and incorporating the expression of transition in the manner of senility allows themselves to be projecting their attention to other focuses or to other aspects of this particular focus; at times they incorporate an interaction with other aspects of essence that are not physically focused. But each movement that they create shall be a direction of their attention to that one expression, such as one other focus within a particular moment, or interacting with another aspect of essence in another particular moment, and they do allow themselves periodically to be turning their attention momentarily once again to THIS focus and this present now. Therefore, the attention moves easily but singularly to different experiences and different expressions of their essence.
Within the action of transition in nonphysical expression, the attention is no longer confined, so to speak, by the design of this physical dimension. Therefore all of the expressions of physical focus – beliefs, experiences and objective awareness – are being explored and addressed to simultaneously. This is what I have expressed in the analogy of placing yourself within a room and surrounding yourself with hundreds of your televisions. (11)
Now; in the action of engaging transition within physical focus, you are surrounding yourself, figuratively speaking, with these hundreds of televisions, but you are merely engaging one singularity of programming in any particular moment. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you are tuning in one television in one time framework, whereas within nonphysical transition, ALL of your televisions are engaged simultaneously. They are all on simultaneously, and all programs are being expressed simultaneously, and your attention is focused in all of them simultaneously.
Many individuals choose to be creating what they perceive to be an ease into that expression of transition by incorporating the singularity of transition within physical focus, in your terms incorporating time. They perceive this action to be prior to their movement into the simultaneousness of attention.” [session 889, August 23, 2001]
BOBBI: “... I had a dream about Vicki (12) back in July, and it was extremely clear. It was almost as if we had run into each other somewhere. We talked for quite a while and I was very happy to see her; she looked great. She said, ‘I just had to go away for a little while,’ and expressed to me it was because Ron had died. And I said, ‘No, it was you,’ but she was quite insistent that no, Ron had died and she had to go away for a while, but it’s great now and she’s fine. My question is, is that my dream imagery or was that an actual sort of interaction?
ELIAS: An actual interaction with the energy, yes; your translation in imagery, but an actual interaction with a projection of energy, yes. And also accurate information – your translation of that accurate information. It was a recognition of Lawrence [Vicki] in the time framework in which Olivia [Ron] disengages.
Within the experience and the expression that Lawrence [Vicki] incorporates now, time is expressed quite differently. There continues to be some experience of time, for there continues to be a partial objective awareness, which has not been entirely shed yet. But the time experienced is much different and therefore in your terms – what you may comprehend – much closer to an expression of simultaneous time, and in this, many actions occurring simultaneously.
You translate the energy that is being expressed and the information that is being expressed in more of a linear fashion that you may be understanding, although you are disagreeing and expressing, ‘No, Olivia [Ron] has not disengaged; YOU have disengaged,’ assuming that there is confusion in the expression of Lawrence [Vicki]. There is not confusion; there is a recognition of the time framework in which Olivia [Ron] has disengaged, which is significant, for many times essences do not pay attention.
It may not necessarily be identified as rare, but it is not common that essences engaged in this physical dimension incorporate the attention in one focus to be directing that attention in association with other individuals, other focuses associated with one time framework in relation to other essences and their choices. In other terms, a focus of attention of Lawrence such as Victoria, once disengaging, generally speaking shall not necessarily be moving their attention to the choices and movements of other individuals continuing within physical focus.
BOBBI: That they were intimate with.
ELIAS: Correct, for the awareness expands tremendously in nonphysical transition, and therefore the attention moves to the essence of the focus of attention and all of the ‘televisions’ of that essence. (13) This generally occupies the attention of the focus that has disengaged, and therefore they do not necessarily move their attention concerning themselves with other essences and their focuses of attention – which may be quite disillusioning to many individuals within your physical dimension, for many individuals experience what you term to be a loss in association with death and wish for the individual to be paying attention to those continuing within physical focus, especially if the individuals incorporated intimate relationship with the disengaged focus.
You generate many myths concerning death and what occurs subsequent to death: where the individual goes, what they experience, how they long to contact those upon the other side – which is all of you – or how they may be held or bound to your physical dimension through their love and connection with those remaining within physical focus. Generally speaking, this is quite associated with your beliefs and myths that you generate in speculation of what occurs subsequent to death.
This is not to say that you may not be interactive. You may all be interactive with each other, for it is associated with projections of energy in very similar manner to what you generate in physical focus. As you proceed within this shift in consciousness and these veils of separation are thinned, it becomes easier to be interactive with individuals that have disengaged and their projections of energy, but their attention is generally expressed differently.
Therefore, it may be viewed as an interesting observation that this particular focus continues to move its attention in association with this physical reality and other individuals which are continuing, not necessarily concerning itself with the movements that any of you are generating physically now but incorporating a recognition of the movement into disengagement.
BOBBI: Would there be a reason for that, or that’s just where Lawrence’s [Vicki’s] interest goes?
ELIAS: Partially in association with beliefs that have not yet been shed in association with reuniting with individuals that there has been expressed a closeness.
BOBBI: And that’s the interest in disengagement.
BOBBI: I see. So she’s still doing transition?
ELIAS: Yes, and engaging some beliefs and therefore influencing the attention and where it may be projected to, and also, as I have stated, continuing to incorporate some objective awareness in association with this physical dimension.
In your terms, many times a focus that disengages, even in engaging transition within physical focus, may continue within a transitional experience nonphysically for what may be translated as several years within your linear time framework. It is not experienced in that manner by the individual, for the experience of several years is quite different within nonphysical areas of consciousness, and in that transitional experience it may be experienced more in association with very brief time framework.
BOBBI: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.” [session 1168, October 27, 2002]
JOANNE: “... Margot started this whole thing about am I dead and don’t know it. When Mom told me that, it was like getting hit in the chest. It was like oh my god! It seemed like a real possibility – am I dead and don’t know it? Well, yes, I am dead and don’t know it! (Laughs)
MARJ: Like are you awake or sleeping, the way we feel sometimes like we don’t know the difference between the two.
JOANNE: I walked around for a good week saying what if you are dead and you don’t know it?
ELIAS: Ah, but as I have expressed, you do recognize eventually.
JOANNE: I just figured maybe I was a little slow, and I was creating you to tell me about other things and dealing with beliefs, which is what going through transition is, right?
ELIAS: And you are.
MARJ: Is she in transition, Elias?
MARJ: (To Joanne) And you didn’t know it?
JOANNE: No, I sort of suspected.
ELIAS: Eventually, within a short time span, so to speak, subsequent to disengagement, if you are continuing to incorporate generating objective imagery in association with this physical reality, you shall begin to notice a difference, for you are not interacting with other individuals any longer. You are creating the imagery, but it is devoid of the actual energy of other individuals. It is merely your energy, and it becomes quite predictable.
JOANNE: Because I thought things have changed since I got into this information. I hear things now, I see things, so it was kind of like maybe I’m slowly telling myself hey, you’re dead. That’s why you are seeing things and hearing things, you know. Then I was like if you are dead, then the rules don’t apply anymore and you wouldn’t have to clean the house or go grocery shopping or pay taxes.
ELIAS: Correct, although it is dependent upon what you are generating within the continuation of that objective perception, generating objective imagery and creating what is familiar to you in association with physical reality.
JOANNE: That’s what I was thinking, I would create everything familiar until I slowly figured out that something’s different here.
ELIAS: Correct. What becomes noticeable is the lack of actual participation of energy of other individuals. Therefore, the other individuals become hollow and they are responsive to you without surprise, for you are generating all of their choices. They are your images devoid of other energies, and therefore all of the interactions that you generate are quite predictable, for they are what you create and there is no surprise.
JOANNE: They are acting the way I want them to act.
MARJ: They are acting like puppets.
ELIAS: Yes, precisely.
JOANNE: Well, then I’m not dead! (Laughs)
MARJ: Because people are fighting me! (Laughs)
ELIAS: This be the reason that I express that if you are questioning whether you are continuing within physical focus or not, you may generate quite a simple action to convince yourself. You may express a request of another individual to generate an unpredictable action to you in a moment that you are not expecting it. In that, it is the choice of the other individual to generate the action and to generate the timing in which the action occurs that you shall not expect.
JOANNE: So then if I’m surprised...
JOANNE: ...I’m still alive, and if I say I knew you were gonna do that, then I’m dead. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Not necessarily!
MARJ: If somebody comes up and slaps you across the face and you didn’t expect it, you say oh, I must be alive! (Laughter)
JOANNE: No problem!” (Laughs) [session 1449, September 28, 2003]
DON: “When I first had a session with you last year, you confirmed that I had been in transition four or five years. You’d still say I’m in transition right now?
DON: I wondered what I might look at in my life, what maybe has changed in my life, having entered transition, as compared to a probability in which by this time I had not yet entered transition? What kind of things might I point to or see in my life that are different because of that?
ELIAS: A probable self that has not engaged the action of transition is not widening as clearly or as quickly as are you.
DON: And I do have a probable self...
DON: ...I assume, that has not entered transition?
Now; what occurs in transition as you continue within physical focus varies, and is also the choice of the individual. Some individuals choose to be engaging this action of transition quite strongly and offer themselves what they would term to be unusual experiences and explorations in different manners, which may be more associated with actions that occur subsequent to death. But not all individuals that engage this action of transition do so in that direction or for that purpose.
Many individuals that engage transition within physical focus are engaging that action to facilitate the acceptance of their beliefs and the awareness of their beliefs and truths in conjunction with the movement of this shift in consciousness, to generate less challenge, less difficulty, so to speak, in expressing that acceptance of their beliefs and their truths and generating more of a trust of themselves. This is very common for individuals within this time framework to be generating, although there are many individuals that generate the action of transition in a manner in which, as you are aware, they are classified as incorporating dis-ease.
This is the reason that I have expressed to individuals, addressing to a misconception that if you are engaging transition as you continue within physical focus that that automatically designates that you shall immediately move into the action of transition subsequent to death, that is not a rule. That is the choice of the individual and how they are engaging transition, for what purpose, as they continue within physical focus. Some individuals may be engaging transition within physical focus and not move into the nonphysical action of transition immediately following death.
DON: So I’ve been engaging in transition more in the direction of what you were saying, when you say that it’s an action to help notice one’s truths and address to one’s truths and other beliefs?
ELIAS: Yes.” [session 1484, December 23, 2003]
DREW: “Speaking of death, as we were a moment ago, is it true to say we’re all dead?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking – as equally as true to express that you are all living.
DREW: So from the point of view of perception, the awareness of this death within my own reality will merely be an expansion of awareness. Is that correct? There’s really no difference in...
ELIAS: Not necessarily. The awareness of the choice of death in the moment of death is the awareness of disengaging. This is the reason that I incorporate that term – disengaging participation from physical reality.
Now; the awareness of that choice may or may not extend beyond the moment of the choice. Therefore, you may not necessarily incorporate initially an expanded awareness. For many individuals generate an awareness of the choice of death at the moment that it is chosen and they know they are disengaging from this physical reality and they know that they are choosing to continue in a different manner. Subsequent to that choice, [they] shall forget and not incorporate an awareness that they have engaged that choice and continue to generate objective imagery and view themselves to be continuing within physical focus. And it appears to them to be the same as it was, with some slight alterations, within the time framework that they were actually engaging within physical focus.
DREW: So what is the difference?
ELIAS: Ah! The difference is that once the individual has disengaged and if they are continuing to generate an objective awareness and generate objective imagery temporarily, they are not actually directly interacting with other individual’s energies as they were within actual physical focus. They are generating the imagery the same, but there is not an actual projection of the other individual’s energy which they are receiving.
Eventually they recognize that all they are creating is quite predictable, and eventually they recognize that there is no participation directly with the energies of all the other individuals that they are engaging and interacting with. They may be viewing them as solidly and as realistically as you view each other, but there is no direct energy projection that they are receiving.
Now; at times, especially now in this time framework as you are moving more and more into the objective expression of this shift, the veils of separation are being thinned quite significantly. In that, at times now you within physical focus can project energy through those veils of separation to an individual that has disengaged, which shall allow that individual to be directly receiving some – not all – but some of your direct projected energy and attention in association with their creation, with their projection of you. Which in many situations that that is occurring now somewhat contributes to the individual’s perception that they are continuing within physical focus; but it does not necessarily prolong the time framework in which they begin to recognize that they are not.
DREW: That’s what I’m curious about. You’ve explained technically what happens, but I’m wondering from an experiential point of view. It’s possible that I’ve made the choice to disengage but I’m not aware of it?
DREW: No, it’s not possible or...?
ELIAS: You have not. (Laughter)
Yes, hypothetically I am understanding your question. It is possible that you would be generating an objective reality such as this, interacting with myself and with all of the other individuals, and it would appear to you to be quite normal.
DREW: So at what point, and maybe it’s different for everybody and I’m going to guess that you’ll say it is, but generally speaking what clues are there? When does that awareness begin to take hold, and is that just an awareness that I can do things I couldn’t do before?
DREW: Could you explain experientially what that...?
ELIAS: Partially you may be, in your terms, accidentally creating differences in your reality that you may have wished you would create within your physical reality but did not acknowledge your ability to create.
For example, the individual may be generating a physical reality such as this, or the imagery of it, participating in this group interaction and become distracted and in a moment be caught up, so to speak, in projecting their attention in a different direction to a different location. Suddenly they are there rather than here, which would be a discrepancy and would prompt you to notice that there are differences occurring.
One very commonly expressed clue that is easily recognized is that in association with other individuals there is no surprise. Whatever you generate in your objective imagery with other individuals, you do not generate surprise. All that they express in their imagery and interaction is predictable.
You may test within physical focus that you are within physical focus by incorporating another individual and requesting that they periodically generate some type of surprise that you do not expect, and that shall be your indicator that you are continuing to directly interact with other individual’s energies.
In actuality, I have discussed this with an individual that has believed herself to be disengaged – ha ha ha! – and is not! And continues not to be! (Laughs)
DREW: And so as that awareness expands, that realization expands, the artificial physical focus just disappears, essentially?
ELIAS: It may and it may not. It begins to be a choice, an objective choice, and you know and you may continue. For some individuals do continue, for they view it as playful and fun to be manipulating within nonphysical consciousness but creating physical imagery, and they may continue for a time framework.
DREW: Initially is that continuation a buffer against trauma?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, no, for many individuals engage that action but it is not a rule. Some individuals move directly into transition. It is dependent upon the individual.” [session 1695, January 15, 2005]
SCOTT: “My mother happens to be an atheist, and I had a couple of questions regarding her. With an atheist belief system, does that sometimes cause difficulty in transition?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, for the action of transition in nonphysical expression is the action of shedding the beliefs associated with a particular reality – physical reality – and shedding the objective awareness. For the objective awareness is associated with physical reality, and it is not necessary in nonphysical areas of consciousness. It may or may not create some challenge, dependent upon the individual.
What may or may not generate somewhat more of a challenge for the individual would be if the individual disengages and is not moving into that action of transition immediately. Many, many, many individuals generate that direction, in which upon the choice of death within this reality, they actually do not begin immediately to engage this action of transition, and therefore continue to generate an objective awareness and continue to create objective imagery that is associated with your physical reality. Therefore, many individuals temporarily are unaware that they have chosen to disengage.
SCOTT: That actually ties into a question about my father. He disengaged about a year and a half ago. I was going to ask you to comment on if he is still in transition or if he’s made it through and gone into transition, or kind of where he’s at with that. (Pause)
ELIAS: This individual is slightly beginning to move into an action of transition, but very slightly, and is continuing to generate objective imagery but is aware that he is not participating within physical focus any longer. He incorporates an understanding that he is not participating within your physical reality, but that is not necessarily the point. This is also quite common.
Upon the realization that an individual has disengaged and is not actually participating within the physical reality any longer, they may choose intentionally not to be engaging transition, for they may choose to continue to explore with how they can manipulate energy in what they are generating with objective imagery. For once an individual has disengaged, even without the awareness that they are not participating within this physical reality, they begin somewhat quickly to recognize that the objective imagery that they are creating is different from what they created within the actual physical reality, and they begin to discover that it is much more flexible.
SCOTT: Do they have contact with other essences or focuses during this time, or are they kind of on their own?
ELIAS: They can. It is dependent upon what the individual chooses to be manipulating and what they choose to engage. Yes, they can be interactive with other essences quite easily. They also can be manipulating and projecting energy through layers of consciousness to be generating an interaction with individuals that continue within physical focus.
SCOTT: I assume my father has not done that.
ELIAS: Especially in this type of movement, in which they are continuing to incorporate objective awareness and continuing to create objective imagery, they begin to notice that there are, figuratively speaking, holes in energy in which they can penetrate their energy into your physical reality.
Now; I may express to you, this individual has projected energy, but many individuals that would be associated with him have not been paying attention.
SCOTT: So he’s, in a sense, trying to contact us, but we’re really not listening or paying attention?
ELIAS: It is not a matter of contacting, for that implies a message. It is more playful as an action, merely generating a projection of energy to create an interaction.
SCOTT: Kind of like saying hi.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.
SCOTT: Has he been in contact with other relatives of his, like his parents or anything like that?
SCOTT: Because with the near death experiences, one of the common themes is you are welcomed by other relatives that have gone before you. I don’t know if that’s an accurate description of a common experience.
ELIAS: That is somewhat of a translation. In that, what generally occurs is that the individual themselves are projecting energy in that state. They have not actually chosen to disengage. They may be temporarily or momentarily experimenting, and they may allow themselves moments in which they are actually objectively aware that they can engage that choice if they wish, but they have not actually chosen to be disengaging. In that situation, in that state, so to speak, the individual creates their own imagery. It is not actually associated with an interaction of other individuals. It is associated with the individual’s beliefs and what they associate with a source of comfort that shall be helpful to them in generating what they think of as a transition into another state.
In actuality, every individual is aware momentarily at the moment of that choice of death and is aware that they are choosing to be engaging that action; but generally speaking, most individuals, subsequent to that choice, do not remember that choice. It is not a process of moving into the light. It is not a process of being guided by other individuals or other essences. In a manner of speaking, it would be more accurate to express that the individual merely blinks. They engage the choice of death, they blink out of this physical reality, and in their next blink, they are viewing a physical reality again, which resembles this physical reality quite closely.
SCOTT: So, at least prior to transition, they see a singular focus of awareness as themselves and still identify themselves as who they were in the last focus.
SCOTT: I guess within the state of transition they can take it slowly, and they don’t have to be bombarded with all their different lives or whatever.
ELIAS: Correct, dependent upon which beliefs they have already shed and which they have not.
SCOTT: Is it possible to maintain or hold anger after you die?
SCOTT: I guess your objective imagery would be a reflection of that?
ELIAS: Yes, for you may continue to be expressing emotion in association with the objective awareness and creating objective imagery.
SCOTT: If I wanted to continue to express and experience emotion and things related to the physical world, I could do that pretty much as long as I wanted to after my disengagement, prior to my transition?
ELIAS: Yes, you can, although it shall be different. Eventually you shall recognize that you are not participating within physical focus any longer, and you shall recognize that you are manipulating every element of the imagery that you may be interacting with. You shall begin to recognize that there is no active participation of other individuals that you are creating.
For example, you may disengage this day, and in that, within physical time, as you blink out, individuals within physical reality may have experienced at least two of your weeks before you blink again and are aware of yourself and are aware of your existence.
SCOTT: That kind of hinges on another question I had. The day after my dad died, I kind of sensed his presence.
ELIAS: That is different. That is associated with energy deposits, which are very common, especially surrounding the death of an individual. For they generally express an energy deposit, which is a type of energy signature, prior to their disengagement, and that is generally sensed by individuals that continue within physical focus. That is not unusual.
SCOTT: I sensed a little bit of confusion on his part, but that might have been an energy deposit that he left prior to disengaging.
ELIAS: It also includes an element of energy that is expressed during the disengagement, and at times that may be somewhat confusing to the individual. But subsequent to that action, temporarily there is no memory of death. This is what begins to be somewhat, actually quite slightly, confusing to an individual as they begin to recognize that they are not actually participating within physical reality any longer. For, they do not incorporate the memory of death until the point that they begin to recognize that the physical objective imagery that they are generating does not actually match the physical reality any longer.
SCOTT: In keeping with that theme, my mother feels like she’s coming down with Alzheimer’s. From what I understand, at least from the transcripts that I’ve read, Alzheimer’s can be a method for transition prior to disengagement.
ELIAS: Yes. In this, there are many different expressions of transition within physical focus, some of which individuals may engage for the reason of facilitating movement within the Shift and moving into an acceptance of beliefs and generating somewhat more of an ease in shifting.
Some individuals engage transition within physical focus somewhat as a prelude to death and choose to be engaging a type of action of transition that is similar to that within nonphysical areas of consciousness. It is not entirely the same, but it does generate a type of preparation in which, generally speaking, individuals that create this type of transition within physical focus, that which you view as senility or as this disease of Alzheimer’s, those types of choices of transition generally move the individual into the nonphysical action of transition much more quickly.
SCOTT: Is that what my mother is going through right now?
ELIAS: In generating transition within physical focus? Yes.” [session 1832, September 01, 2005]
(1) Vic’s note: when Elias uses the term “transition,” he isn’t talking about dying. He is talking about an action of engaging belief systems, which he says can be, and quite often is, entered into while a person is very much alive. He is also talking about an action of moving from subjective to objective awareness, and vice versa. A person can be in transition for their entire lifetime, according to my understanding of Elias’ definition.
(2) Vic’s note: Joshua was a very interesting addition to our group this evening. He is seventeen years old. Two years ago, he was involved in a serious automobile accident. Shortly after, he was pronounced ‘dead,’ but he didn’t stay that way for long! The resulting coma lasted for four months, a coma that his doctors said he would probably never come out of. When he defied their predictions again, they said his mental capabilities would probably never proceed beyond the age of a two-year-old. Josh didn’t listen to this prediction either! Today, he is a very bright teenager with a great sense of humor, and an avid interest in girls and music, especially The Grateful Dead. He has some physical symptoms as a result of this experience which are improving steadily, one of which manifests as a slight difficulty in speaking. Therefore, some of his words were a bit difficult to transcribe. Still, I feel the transcription is quite accurate. For reference, note that Vikki is Josh’s mother.
(3) Paul’s note: a reference to the clarity exercise, a tool that sharpens the physical senses by enhancing our ability to concentrate, observe, and focus in the present moment. While fine-tuning the five physical senses, its purpose is also to maintain the clarity of focus in altered states and projections of consciousness.
Exercises: find out more about the clarity exercise.
(4) Paul’s note: Seth/Jane Roberts’ term for expressing the concept of God as an action of eternal becoming, inseparable from and contained within Everything, incomprehensible in Its Totality.
This information was first introduced in The Seth Material, Chapter 18, The God Concept – The Creation – The Three Christs, (1970), sessions 426-428, (no date given.)
Elias initially used the term “Creating Universal One And Whole” to describe the same Reality. This was subsequently replaced by “all of consciousness.”
Digests: find out more about Seth/Jane Roberts.
(5) Paul’s note: Lydia and Tweety are characters found in the first two Oversoul Seven books written by Jane Roberts – The Education of Oversoul Seven (1973) and The Further Education of Oversoul Seven (1979.)
Lydia and Tweety are both focuses of Oversoul Seven. The first book details Lydia’s death in the late 1970’s and subsequent afterdeath experience. In the second book her afterdeath transition continues and she is involved with a remanifesting/continuing focus, nick-named Tweety who is born into 17th century Denmark.
This is a great example of how remanifesting/continuing focuses occur in the context of linear/simultaneous time frameworks. These books are excellent primers for many of the ideas contained in the information offered by Seth and Elias.
(6) Vic’s note: the “essence in question" is an individual who has passed on and is presently focused within the area of transition. Mary and I interact with this focus within different states of consciousness. In this case, the question refers to interaction within dream state.
(7) Paul’s note: Elias uses the metaphor of orange sections to show that there is no separation within consciousness, that it’s all connected. He says that we create the artificial division of sections where none really exist. The same is true with our physical selves and our essence.
(8) Paul’s note: Jade is a Native American shaman and friend of Howard and Margot Reed.
Intro: find out more about Margot Reed.
(9) Paul’s note: a reference to the Heaven’s Gate mass suicide that occurred on March 27, 1997 in Rancho Santa Fe, near San Diego, CA. A group of 39 people, including leader Marshall Applewhite, committed a non-violent suicide. Their belief was that a flying saucer, inhabited by “heavenly beings" was trailing the comet Hale-Bopp, and would take them to a “better” place. Their belief was that they had to be non-physically focused to accomplish this.
(10) Vic’s note: On July 01, 1998, Tom (James) shot himself in the head. He died the next morning. Needless to say, this was quite a shock to those of us who knew Tom, both inside and outside of these sessions.
This session was requested by Gail, who was present when the event occurred. The other people “sitting in” on this session were there to offer energy and support.
Tom attended his first session on August 02, 1995, and continued to attend sessions on and off until his death.
(12) Paul’s note: Bobbi’s dream relates to the unexpected death of Vicki Pendley on December 06, 2001.
Digests – see also: | absolutes | accepting self | aspects of essence; an overview | attention (doing and choosing) | becoming | being in the now | belief systems; an overview | bleed-through | camouflage | about children | choices/agreements | counterpart action; individual | creature consciousness | Creating Universal One And Whole/all of consciousness | cycle of manifestation | déjà vu | desires/wants | dimension | dimensional veils | dis-ease and healing | disengage (“death”) | Dream Walkers; an overview | distortion | energy centers (body) | energy deposits | energy exchanges; Elias, Paul (Patel) | essence; an overview | extraterrestrials | fear | focal points | focus of essence; an overview | focus of essence; beginning – continuing – final | forum | fragmentation | imagery | imagination | intents | information | “karma” | links of consciousness | manifestation | mass events | mergence | mirror action | objective/subjective awareness | officially accepted reality | out-of-body experiences | perception | probabilities | probable selves | Regional Areas; an overview | Regional Area 1 | Regional Area 2 | Regional Area 3 | “reincarnation” | religious era | remembrance of essence | separation | shift in consciousness | shrines | simultaneous time | time frameworks | skipping shells | time frameworks | trauma of the shift in consciousness | truth | used parts | unofficial information | vessel | vicitms/perpetrators | waking state/dream state | widening awareness | you create your reality |
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