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the nine children of the essence of Rose

Paul’s note: the following is an introduction to the nine children of Rose. It is recommended that you read the following Digests first, as it deals with deeply held religious belief systems and is very easy to distort its underlying intent, meaning, and purpose.

The information on the nine children of Rose offers some of the most intriguing ideas given to date by Elias because it’s a contemporary translation of the myth of the messiah, one that goes back as far as the Old Testament and Torah. That’s right, think “hero’s journey” and Joseph Campbell. In his book, The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949), Campbell talks about the impact and similarity of various myths throughout history, the world over. He explores “the hero myth” as a warrior, lover, emperor, tyrant, world redeemer, and saint. In my view, the Rose information (and all of the related Digests above by Elias) offers more of the same.

Why this story is best understood as a myth is the fact that it comes from a grass roots source, just as all authentic cultural myths do. In other words, it doesn’t come from the agendas of the Wall Street or Madison Avenue hype factory, or a church, royal family, official government, moneyed interest, etc., but from a group of every day people. In this sense, this mythos is bubbling up from within the collective psyche, not top-down from a corporate, religious, or political institution.

And I’m redefining the use of the word “myth” here. It’s popular connotation usually means false, looney, or an outright lie. My definition is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite, based in a deeper subjective truth that can never be fully translated into objective imagery, words, or mathematical equations. So I’m using it more akin to the way Joseph Campbell does, though with the benefit of bodies of work like the Seth material by Jane Roberts and Elias information, we clearly are privy to a wider view of the multidimensional psyche and universe (multiverse) than ever before.

Still, according to Campbell, myth plays important sociological and psychological roles. And, it has been interpreted by modern minds in various ways, besides the conventional meaning of a falsehood. Myth can also be understood,

“... as a primitive, fumbling effort to explain the world of nature (Frazier); as a production of poetical fantasy from prehistoric times, misunderstood by succeeding ages (Müller); as a repository of allegorical instruction, to shape the individual to his group (Durkheim); as a group dream, symptomatic of archetypal urges within the depth of the human psyche (Jung); as the traditional vehicle of [people’s] profoundest metaphysical insights (Coomaraswamy); and as God’s Revelation to His children (the Church). Mythology is all of these. The various judgments are determined by the viewpoints of the judges. For when scrutinized in terms not of what it is but of how it functions, of how it has served mankind in the past, of how it may serve today, mythology shows itself to be as amenable as life itself to the obsessions and requirements of the individual, the race, the age.” (1)

According to Seth,

“The world’s ideas, fantasies, or myths may seem far divorced from current experience – yet all that you know or experience has its origin in that creative dimension of existence that I am terming Framework 2 [or Regional Area 2]. In a manner of speaking your factual world rises on a bed of fantasy, myth, and imagination, from which all of your detailed paraphernalia emerge. What then is myth, and what do I mean by the term?

“Myth is not a distortion of fact, but the womb through which fact must come. Myth involves an intrinsic understanding of the nature of reality, couched in imaginative terms, carrying a power as strong as nature itself. Myth-making is a natural psychic characteristic, a psychic element that combines with other such elements to form a mythical representation of inner reality. That representation is then used as [a] model upon which your civilizations are organized, and also as a perceptual tool through whose lens you interpret the private events of your life in their historical context.

“When you accept myths you call them facts, of course, for they become so a part of your lives, of societies and your professions, that their basis seems self-apparent. Myths are vast psychic dramas, more truthful than facts. They provide an ever-enduring theater of reality. It must be clearly understood, then, that when I speak of myths I mean to imply the nature of psychic events whose enduring reality exists in Framework 2, and forms the patterns that are then interpreted in your world.” (2)

We live in a time of accelerated change as witnessed in the fantastic breakthroughs in all disciplines; art, science, the humanities, economics, religion, and popular culture. The advent of the Internet and the World Wide Web makes the planet smaller in the sense that it’s now easier for people to explore and share new ideas at a more rapid pace. So the myths of our times are rapidly changing too. A new mythos is emerging from the collective psyche. It is not set in stone but is collectively emerging in front of our very eyes by choice, not chance. No one really knows what will unfold during this next century, but whatever myths spring from our collective intuitions and imaginations and “take” will indeed reflect the new worldview of the collective psyche.

“Myths are natural phenomenon, rising from the psyche of man as surely as giant mountain ranges emerge from the physical planet. Their deeper reality exists, however, in Framework 2 as source material for the world that you know.” (3)

“If you could orbit your planet in a different kind of craft, you could view the psychic contents of the world, seeing the world consciousness shining far more brilliantly than any lighted city. You could spot the point of intense activity, see the birth of new myths and the death of old ones as certainly as you might be able to see a mountain slide or a tidal wave. The physical portions of earth are all related. So does consciousness form its own kind of inner structures from which, again, the physical ones emerge.” (4)

An interesting aspect of this myth of the nine children of Rose is its connections to the work of Jane Roberts and the Seth material, written from 1963-1984. In Seth Speaks, Chapter 21, The Meaning of Religion (1972), Seth mentioned that there were three Christs: John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul, or Saul of Tarsus. He also said that all twelve of the disciples, as well as a character called the Teacher of Righteousness, were probable Christs. All told, that adds up to at least sixteen Christs. Good Christ! In other words, they were all focus personalities of a single soul (or entity or essence).

Seth also discussed the so-called “second coming,” the ancient biblical prophesy of the “return” of Jesus Christ in the form of a single male based upon the personality of Paul/Saul. Elias also says that the three so-called Christs were aspects of a single soul/essence. But he then expands the “returning” personality, based upon St. Paul, into nine males in his version. Elias also merges this idea of “return” with an expanded version of the nine “families” of consciousness, introduced originally by Seth in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2 (1979).

Two thousand years ago the beginnings of the Christian era were punctuated by the “return” of the Jewish messiah, prophesized in the Old Testament as a deliverer of the Jewish people from oppressors (Romans). During this epoch, there was also a shift from a pantheon of Gods to a belief in a Single Godhood, a Father God, and the belief that the messiah (Jesus) was the Son of God and savior of all mankind, and all of the many related religious dogmas that formed Christian belief systems.

Seth also stated in Seth Speaks that the historical Christ was not crucified (Elias also), and therefore couldn’t have literally been resurrected. Instead, a substitute, possibly Simon of Cyrene, was drugged, carried the cross, and was executed (crucified) in place of Christ. That is, the political and religious impact of a crucifixion was an important aspect of the way this religious drama had to play out at the time. But, as the centuries wore on, it didn’t really matter if the historical Christ was or wasn’t crucified. Church and official dogma was established and that was that. We also need to remind ourselves that in those days there was no Internet, TV, or Amber system to get pictures out into the public. Justice was carried out by word of mouth and witnesses. And things were kept very, very secret for a variety of reasons, chief among which were keeping one’s head firmly secured on one’s neck.

Seth also foretold, again in Chapter 21 of Seth Speaks, a big change in human consciousness that would significantly impact religious belief systems that would be completed, more or less, by the year 2075. Elias calls this the shift in consciousness and uses a similar time frame. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a discarnate being to observe the immense economic, political, scientific, spiritual, and social changes happening all around us in accelerated fashion. But we can imagine what the world of 2075 will be like.

Seth also introduced the concept of counterparts AND “families” of consciousness in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2 (1977/1979). This was his way of expanding the idea that each one of us is directly connected to intermediate “frameworks of consciousness” in which nonphysical aspects of the soul/essence exist. These important new concepts, also myths, provided an expanded view of the multidimensional psyche.

The idea of counterparts also meant that each of us could have 5-7 other selves alive at the same time. Out the window went the idea of linear and moral cause and effect taught by distorted Eastern religions. That is, conventional religious beliefs of “karma” and “reincarnation” were flat out distorted, since all time occurs in a vast spacious present. This spacious present is more like a holographic grid of perception that allows for simultaneous time and infinite dimensions of experience. In this sense, there can be no “return” of any one, not even a messiah since it’s all happening as a vast simultaneity.

Counterparts also meant that in wars, we were always killing ourselves. And the whole idea behind the “families” of consciousness was to show that humanity had great purpose and INTENTION in everything it does. The “families,” then, are symbolic, mythical ways of expressing that innate intent, which is the main way we all create meaning and purpose in our lives. (Hey, I’m doing my best to fill in the gaps for all of you who cheated and didn’t read those other Digests. You can always go back and read them later to fill in the gaps.)

Seth also introduced the concepts of sleepwalkers, master events, and “before the beginning,” in Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 & 2, (1986). All of these ideas are part and parcel of what I call Seth’s “conscious creation myth” that paints a picture on the origins of the species and the universe (i.e. there is no beginning or end, cosmogenesis [the origin] occurs in every moment, early humans existed in astral forms long before settling into physical forms, the dream state is an authentic and primary state of experience in terms of physical reality, etc.).

Why bring all of this up? First, because it’s important to get the wider context in which the conceptual foundation was presented that leads up to what I’m calling the “messiah myth” of nine children of Rose. This foundation was laid during a span covering almost forty years, since December 1963, when Seth first began “coming through” Jane Roberts. Second, the names, family alignments, and geographic locations in which these children of Rose exist are mostly secondary to HOW this whole mythos of “the messiah” unfolds and the deeper mental symbols it represents. I say that because the information offered to date is very general and vague.

When Seth delivered his Christ information in The Seth Material (1970) and Seth Speaks he stated that he was being general and vague as to the actual identity so that people wouldn’t be tempted to step into the role prematurely. For example, he never gave a name or race. The same holds true for this information regarding the nine children of Rose. It IS very general. And as far as locations go, Uganda is a pretty big place, even through a first and last name is given for that individual (Jesus Yugu). But once again, it is anything but precise, just vague enough to capture the imagination, stoke hidden religious belief systems, and make us all ask a ton of questions.

The biggest difference between Seth’s and Elias’ versions of this “return” (which in terms of simultaneous time is a really simultaneity, hey, I suggested you read those Digests first), is that Seth’s is a single personality, and Elias talks about nine personalities. So what’s up with that? Well, to begin with, in the context of Seth’s and Elias’ multidimensional psyche, we know that there is no such thing as a single, separated, distinct human being. We are each aspects of nested, merged souls, that, in turn, are nested and merged aspects of ever greater, or wider gestalts of personality tone that, in turn, are aspects of All-That-Is.

I took the opportunity to ask Elias about this discrepancy between his and Seth’s versions in December 1999 in a private phone session.

PAUL: “... the nine children of Rose are somewhere around four or five years old now, and quite physically focused individuals. I’m curious what role they are playing within this particular mass actualization of movement [regarding the insertion of the shift/2075 probabilities]?

ELIAS: Their role is to be moving in conjunction with this shift in consciousness with ease, incorporating all elements of your reality without conflict and the actualization of acceptance.

Each of these manifestations participates in different expressions of beliefs, different expressions of actualized reality through objective perception, and expresses an acceptance of those creations of reality within the expressions of the beliefs, and each of these manifestations offers a lending of energy to this shift in consciousness through an expression of a lack of conflict.

PAUL: Interesting. Thank you. In a related area, I know we’ve talked about religious belief systems today, and it’s that time of year in our country, in our culture, the Christmas season, so to speak, and I wanted to address to an area that’s difficult for me, but being the season, I figure I’ll just jump in!

Anyway, I want to talk a little bit about my interpretation of some of the writings of Seth in the Seth books regarding this Christ entity, and I’ve had time obviously to reflect on some of my own religious beliefs in this area.

The first point I guess I’m realizing is that in our culture, we’re taught that this so-called Christ figure is a single individual with great superpowers, and at least in the context of the information in the Seth material, particularly in Seth Speaks, Chapter 21, he discusses this Christ entity, as he called it, or the Christ essence, I guess we could call it – whatever – in a multidimensional context, and the more I look back at this and review the information, the clearer it becomes to me that this is not a singular manifestation.

We’ve talked about the three focuses of this essence – John the Baptist, the historical Jesus, and Paul or Saul of Tarsus – and in Seth Speaks, he says that the disciples, the twelve disciples ... he describes them as fragment personalities. There was a character, a teacher of righteousness character, that Seth describes as a probable self, and he talks about other religious heroes in that era, and then also of course this new personality or second, third, fourth coming, et cetera, in what we’re terming our shift.

So to sort of summarize what I’m saying and asking you, it seems clear, from this information at least, that this manifestation of individuals two thousand years ago ... there are at least 15 or 16 focus personalities that are clearly related. So this Christ that we look at as a single man is in fact – figuratively, let’s even use that word – 15 or 16 Christs at that time, not to mention the dozens of other related figures who were interpreting the Source Events as they translated into physical focus at that time.

So my question to you is, in Seth Speaks, he talks about this figurative second coming and says there is no such thing, as you do, but Seth very clearly talked about this so-called return as a singular person, and as you know, I am active on a mailing list where we explore these ideas, and I’m struck by people’s interpretation, literal interpretation and expectation, that fits back into the officially accepted mapping of a single individual. (I moderate the Sethnet email list at where the list focus is upon the 40-plus books published by Jane Roberts and Robert Butts.) And you, in your information that I’ve been studying for several years now, very clearly talk about this in terms of these nine children as a multiple situation, a multiple multidimensional manifestation, which in a sense is similar to what Seth was talking about happened two thousand years ago.

So my question, after a long preamble: why did Seth choose to address this returning focus based on Saul of Tarsus as a singularity, when it’s so clear that you have discussed it in terms of multiple manifestations?

ELIAS: Let me express to you first of all, the intent of these essences – myself and that of what you identify as Seth – are different. Therefore, the expressions objectively shall appear to you differently, although essentially they are not so very different. The presentment may be objectively offered differently in conjunction with the intent, but this is the direction of energy within the expression of the intent of a specific type of movement in a specific type of direction with what you may identify in your physical terms as a purpose.

Now; we shall be speaking figuratively in this explanation, for I am incorporating terminology as ‘purpose,’ and as you are aware, in actuality your purpose within this reality is merely to be experiencing, and therefore our purpose in interaction with you is merely experience also, in literal terms.

But in figurative terms, the purpose of the interaction is to be offering specific directions, and in those directions, there may be allowances within the intent of certain essences to be offering information which moves in conjunction and supportiveness of certain belief systems if that direction shall be incorporating the point, and the point is not necessarily to be discounting of the individuals within the physical dimension or to be expressing a right or wrong, but to be offering information that shall be facilitating of a widening of awareness, and in many aspects of communication, this may be accomplished in conjunction with the existing belief systems and not in a challenging of those existing belief systems. This moves quite intricately with the expression of the intent.

In the intent of the Sumari, the direction of expression is not placed in emphasis with the identification of accuracy of terms or philosophies, so to speak, but in the movement of energy into the creation of the expression of new explorations. Therefore, the action in the expression is to facilitate a movement of energy in the direction of allowance of new exploration. This may be accomplished even within the incorporation of existing belief systems and the association with familiarity, for the rocking of the boat, so to speak, is not intended to be creating of the expressions of trauma or the introduction of trauma, but merely to be introducing concepts through an acceptable expression that shall be sparking objective investigation, and in this, the purpose has been accomplished.

In a manner of speaking, this moves quite in conjunction with information that I also offer to you in conjunction with choices. The choices themselves, the actions themselves, matter not. They are choices. They are manifestations. They are actions. The beliefs themselves, in themselves, matter not. The beliefs that you hold in themselves are not right or wrong. They are not good or bad. They are in themselves neutral.

Therefore, the choice of expression – in the context of the intent of that essence – matters not. The information which is offered in its action is what matters, so to speak. It is the allowance for the incorporation of opening in your perceptions that matters, not HOW it shall be accomplished.

Therefore, the idea of what has been expressed of one individual matters not. The concept of the movement holds the importance. If the concept of the movement is offered and accepted in the translation through the aspect of the belief which is already held and if that is accomplishing of the purpose, so to speak, why shall it not be incorporated? For it matters not, for the idea is not what holds importance.

The one or the nine or the ten thousand manifestations and the idea of these are not what holds the importance. The movement of energy in the concept of the shift is what holds the importance, for this is the movement of the alteration of your reality. The manifestation is merely the symbolization of it. It is a manifestation of a focal point or a symbol which is offered as imagery of the concept, in like manner to what you identify as the Christ entity, so to speak.

The Christ entity – what is the Christ entity? In actuality, you do not hold a definition for the Christ entity. You hold speculation. You hold theory. You hold ideas/opinions of what this may be, but you do not look to the designation of the Christ entity, so to speak, as you look to a wall within physical matter and express to yourself, ‘This is a wall. These are the properties in physical matter of this physical wall. I may identify in physical objective terms what this object is.’ You identify the Christ entity as if it is an object, a manifestation, a thing, but you do not identify what this thing is.

I express to you that the Christ entity – or the thing of the Christ entity – is a symbol. It is what you present to yourselves as an explanation or a symbol, a figurehead, a focal point of a movement of energy which may be identified in the manifestation of an individual or of one essence manifest into many individuals. What be the difference? It is merely a difference in terms – once again, our term of terms! (Grinning) And....

JO: And so it doesn’t really matter, in redefining these terms, since many of them are symbols, if we use the term ‘All-That-Is’ as opposed to ‘The Creating Universal One and Whole’?

ELIAS: Correct. They are merely terms. They are offered in conjunction with the existing held belief systems in communication with individuals within this physical dimension that shall offer a beginning point, so to speak, in the allowance of information to be incorporated.

This may be expanded upon as the individuals individually and en masse allow themselves objectively to be vulnerable and to be widening their awareness objectively, and therefore incorporating more information, and as you are widening your awareness, you DO incorporate more information objectively. You expand your incorporation of your definitions. Your redefining of terms is an expansion of terms which is allowed through your widening of awareness.

I express to you that one essence is manifest within physical focuses in the expression of the symbol, so to speak, of this Christ entity, which is representative of the movement of energy. I also express to you that one essence offers the manifestations in multiple in THIS time framework. Another essence [Seth] holding a different intent [Sumari] expresses to you the information of multi-dimensionality of essence and offers that information in conjunction with a concept which you view to be past and which you view to be in existence in continuation presently, and in this, the information is merely offered in different physical terminology. The information that I have offered to you is essentially the same.

I express to you that you are all multidimensional. Therefore, why shall one essence not be multidimensional? Why shall one focus of essence not be multidimensional, as you all are multidimensional?

Therefore, the expression of Jesus is also multidimensional, as you are multidimensional. The expression of essence in that time framework, in conjunction with a movement in consciousness, manifest in several focuses. You yourselves manifest in several focuses. The expression of this essence presently is expressed in several focuses. This is not unusual or uncommon.

Therefore, you may look to the essence of Rose, and it is manifest within nine physical manifestations in this time framework in this physical dimension. You also are focused in multiples within this time framework in this physical dimension. These are not amazing stories. These are not unusual expressions or rare expressions of essence.

This essence of Rose, in conjunction with countless other essences, manifests into specific focuses with specific intents that are of this shift in consciousness and are expressed in conjunction with the offering of the shift and the intent of each essence family as a representation of these intents, which is a difference in the choice of expression from other essences, for other essences are not necessarily choosing a limitation in that type of expression, for you as essence allow more of an expansiveness in your intent and your expression of each focus.

This particular essence, in the manifestations to the point of their fragmentation ... which is not accomplished yet in your linear time framework. But to that point, the expression is manifest in a manner of limitation, for it is merely the expression of the shift and the expression of the represented essence family intent. This be the reason that each of these manifestations holds an essence family and alignment the same, for their expression does not deviate but follows the intent of that one essence family as a representation of the energy of that family. But this does not set apart these individual focuses as any more unique than any other focus which is manifest. It is merely your identification of definitions – once again – which sets them apart, and this moves in conjunction with your beliefs.

PAUL: That was very beautiful and interesting, and I just want to try to summarize my understanding from the question I asked you – that 23 years ago a book called Seth Speaks comes into my reality, and I sit and I read it, and I get through that chapter where he offers that information, in his terms, of the three Christs or the three focuses of Christ, so to speak, and talks about a return to help fix up some of the problems created in organized religion, and that mapped at that time onto to my existing religious belief systems that acknowledged the concept of a Christ, so to speak, and even the so-called second coming, which is popular knowledge in our culture.

So at that point in time, I read that information and it maps onto existing beliefs, but certainly expands them and provides interesting areas of exploration and speculation, and then 23 years ... 21 years later, I happen upon information offered by yourself, and it takes that idea and certainly on one level seems to contradict it, but on another level widens it and maps onto a widened set of beliefs that I hold at that time, and also helps me to speculate and explore this movement of energy that you’re talking about in a new way. Is that sort of correct?

ELIAS: Yes. You are merely allowing yourself to continue to proceed. You have opened the door, so to speak, in the incorporation of one element of information, and you have walked into the room through the door in another incorporation of information. Therefore, they are not contradictory in the manner that the door is not contradicting the room, but they are offering differing functions.

PAUL: And so I guess my final question in this area for today is, your information certainly places importance and significance on the symbols of these nine essence families and their intents, and I guess I’m just making a statement here that that is what strikes me about it, and that is sort of the frontier, as it were, to explore behind these symbols and what deeper meanings, I guess, are being translated through Source Events, source energy, into our physical objective awareness.

ELIAS: It is the presentment of energy to be actualized in the movement of this shift, the representation of that energy, and its manifestations as offered by each of these nine manifestations in conjunction with the actions and intents of the nine essence families, which you all are belonging to and which provides a directional point for all of your reality in this particular dimension.

PAUL: So, Elias, is it most probable that as this shift completes its circle, so to speak, in the coming century, that this concept, this archetype, this symbol of nine essence families, so to speak, will hold an objective awareness in everybody alive on the planet?

ELIAS: In the movement of probabilities in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, most probably, presently, yes.

PAUL: Fascinating! Interesting. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.” [session 530, December 29, 1999]

And just to add a comment almost three years after the above session took place, I still don’t believe that the entire planet will have an objective knowing of the nine families in specific terms of the words being used in this Digest or by Seth and Elias in general. That’s, once again, too literal an interpretation. It’s just too limited for the spontaneous nature of human creativity, cultural differences, and belief systems. I do believe, however, that this information IS highly symbolic of the deeper understanding of human intention in the context of multidimensional personality living in a multiverse, an understanding that growing throughout our planet.

So whether or not the word “Sumari” or “Sumafi” is used is not of primary importance. It’s more important to learn to read between the lines. The subtext of these words is what is primary, namely that people are becoming more attuned to their multidimensional nature and innate intention. And we’re creating powerful new myths to help explain, in terms of inner symbolic imagery, what is happening in our objective reality. So it’s important not to be too literal.

As far as the initial information offered by Elias on the nine children of Rose in 1995-7, we also need to remind ourselves that he had his own reasons for validating the information given. It was for the most part done in the context of “the game,” a playful way to test the validity of impressions by forum participants. However, we have to ask, “who is the judge?” “Who validates the information?” And the answer is Elias himself, who states repeatedly that he is not an infallible source, and there are no absolutes. So we need to take it all of this information with a grain of salt, lest we fall into the trappings of assigning meanings that are not intended.

For example, we could ask “why is there only one child in Asia and Africa, and none South America or the Middle East?” “Why are all but one in the Western countries, with three in the USA?” Is this a bias on Mary Ennis’ part? Subconscious noise or bleedthrough, perhaps? Or, is there some role that democratic, free societies play so these children will flourish as adults? But why, then, wouldn’t they travel to other parts of the globe as they get older, or if they’re so special just project, walk on water, or levitate themselves there? But seriously, these children are not little Jesuses, Buddhas, Mohammeds, Zororasters, or Lao Tzus! All of those figures have become much, much larger in death, than they ever were in life. They were indeed messengers, but not the message. WE ARE THE MESSAGE! Likewise, these children, soon to be adults, are just messengers with an updated version of the perennial message that we are multidimensional personalities living in a multiverse.

Also, we must ask, “why, then, are they all male?” What’s up with that? Haven’t we had enough of the politics of testosterone and patriarchy? According to Elias, the idea is that they are all male because they are supposed to help bring the Goddess, the feminine principle, and intuitions back into balance from the imbalances of the past. This makes intuitive sense to me. But that is just Elias’ message. We also need to look to our own intuitions, inner senses, and dreams to tell us about the validity of this information. Can we see our own face in theirs?

There are additional questions we need to ask about how we project larger than life qualities on anyone we believe to be “special,” “chosen,” or “divas”; authority figures one and all that we’ve been trained to give up our own power to. Jungian folks call this the “action of transference”; transferring our own latent, childlike feelings and beliefs in the omnipotent nature of parental figures onto others. We still do it even with these little children of Rose. Why are we still so hypnotized into seeing others as more powerful than us? Why is it that we believe we are so distinctly UNdivine, or that “other” is so much more divine that US?

The answers lie in our own memories, experiences, and belief systems accrued throughout a lifetime. And theses answers will shed some light on the many religious and spiritual belief systems we each still hold concerning this topic, this mythos of “the return of the messiah,” which is not a return at all.

The following, then, is a summary taken from the Elias sessions transcribed by Vicki Pendley. You’ll notice that they are almost entirely game entries. Elias offers “one point” or “acceptable” for “correct” or propositionally true. He offers “less probable” for “when pigs fly out of my butt” or literally, possible but only if we violate the laws of physics (well, that’s my take on it). OK, it really means “wrong” or propositionally incorrect. As you will see, it is very general information. Still, it’s specific enough that it may be possible to identify some of these individuals some day. And what then?

It is clear to me that Elias wanted to deliver this information in the context of his stated agenda (i.e. to offer helpful info to reduce the trauma in the shift) and used the game format to allow others to help deliver it. This softens the whole guru trip, the action of transference again, that we also project onto Elias. It allowed others, regular people like you and me, to assist in delivering this information. All Elias had to do was validate or invalidate it. Is that acceptable to you? It seemed to be acceptable to the people at the time. Again, Elias has stated that there are no absolutes and that he is not to be considered an infallible source, like the Pope in the Vatican. So what does this all really mean? Is what follows, then, all literally, propositionally true? No.

I also wonder about the clever way Elias weaves this concept into the Christ and messiah mythos, a BIG religious belief system, along with the nine families and the essence of Rose. At what point does no separation within consciousness occur for each of us? At what point do we perceive that there really is no past, present, or future? At what point do we experience our own inner senses, multidimensional aspects, and learn to conceptualize the truth for ourselves without having to say “according to Seth or Elias or nine children of Rose”?

And before we get too cozy, consider that being a “messiah” ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Typical messianic job requirements go something like this: the successful candidate will provide insights on the deep nature of human beings and the universe that 99.9% of the population will reject outright because it does not align with current mass belief systems, be a willing agitator, pot stirrer, consort with the poor, prostitutes, drug addicts, the homeless, and disenfranchised to show that they, too, carry the divine stamp of Primary Source, live a short life, often times made so by entrenched political, religious, and economic interests that don’t appreciate the way you think “out of the box,” consider the way you perceive reality as schizophrenic, the results of dissociative personality disorder, a false prophet, or better yet, demonically possessed. Well, you get the idea. So the life of these nine children promises to be anything like we project them to be (e.g. idyllic, carefree, walking around in white robes, all powerful, etc.).

Also, consider what is actually represented by Christ within the spectrum of consciousness – the psyche, pyramid energy gestalts, All-That-Is – that Seth, Elias, and many other sources map out? Given that the map is not the territory, what is Christ as messiah a deeper metaphor or symbol for within our own Be-ing?

I believe that the Christ as messiah mythos represents the Primary Aspect within each of us that is Eternal and Causal. And thus It is free and available to one and all, and not the soul property (pun intended ;-) of any institutionalized religion. This Eternal and Causal Aspect is never born and never dies, because It is timeless, nonphysical, and ever-creating.

In this sense, then, a Christ as messiah essence can never really be fully born into the world of space-time and energy-matter. Human beings are what Jane Roberts called idea constructions, or what Seth called primary constructions, but are never manifest as the Totality Of Source. And yet, paradoxically, the nondual traditions all point out that the Totality Of Source can indeed be tapped into, remembered, or awakened to in a blinding instant. Therefore, no individual or group of individuals can ever hold special or privileged access, since All-That-Is is, well, All-That-Is!

As usual, my purpose has been to raise more questions than provide pat answers. I think each of us will come up with our own interesting angles, too. If I’ve made anything clear, it is to take the following with a judicious grain of salt (use the whole shaker :-), symbolically, mythically, and in the context of spiritual belief systems, not as literal, propositional truths. Because when we interpret them literally, we simply replace old dogma with new dogma. Christ as messiah becomes the nine children of Rose as messiah. Same old wine, just new skins.

In practical terms, then, each of us is on a journey toward some kind of remembrance, awakening, or realization as individualized aspects of All-That-Is. So I’d like to end with the closing paragraph of Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces, since it reflects on how we are each on a hero’s journey, and have direct access to the same Primary Source as a child of Rose, Christ, messiah, or any other aspect of essence that engages human experience:

“The modern hero, the modern individual who dares to heed the call and seek the mansion of that presence with who it is our whole destiny to be atoned, cannot, indeed must not, wait for his community to cast off its slough of pride, fear, rationalized avarice, and sanctified misunderstanding. ‘Live,’ Nietzsche says, ‘as though the day were here.’ It is not society that is to guide and save the creative hero, but precisely the reverse. And so every one of us shares the supreme ordeal – carries the cross of the redeemer – not in the bright moment of his tribe’s great victories, but in the silence of his personal despair.” (5)

The Nine Children of Rose/The Game
Note: I have included links to each essence family as refreshers, and have also included [in brackets] the essence family names where just colors are given.
Essence Family Intent Given Name Physical Location
Milumet Jesus Yugu Uganda, Africa
GAIL: “Okay, here’s one I’m gonna try. For one of the babies; the name of Jesus (Spanish pronunciation; ‘hey-zeus’), and this is how to spell the last name; Y-U-G-U; location, Africa; and color, red [Milumet].”

ELIAS: “Correct. One point; additional point to be added to our next game, interaction to which William [Gail] shall encounter three. Very good!” [session 113, August 18, 1996]

GEORGE: “... can you tell me where he [Jesus Yugu] is in Africa? (Pause)

ELIAS: Within this present time framework, the small one occupies a physical location ... that which you identify as Uganda. Now, I may express to you that this individual is manifest in relation to what you physically identify as an interracial family.” [session 748, December 30, 2000]

Gramada John/Jack Wisconsin, USA
GAIL: “Okay, I would like to open up another category of the nine babies, and find out their names and locations.”

ELIAS: “Acceptable.”

GAIL: “Okay. The first location I came up with is Wisconsin, the name Jack, and the color orange [Gramada]. (Pause, with Elias grinning) Why do I get this far-reaching look?”

ELIAS: “The name, in actuality, shall be John; but the name, as it shall be called, shall be Jack. Correct.” (Smiling at Gail) [session 103, July 07, 1996]

Vold Carver Edinburgh, Scotland
VICKI: “In our new category of name and location of babies, under yellow [Vold], I would like to enter the name Carter. The place, Edinburgh, Scotland.”

ELIAS: “Express to me why you have chosen this option of name, as opposed to your other option.”

VICKI: “It was a toss-up, and I picked one.” (Vic’s note: Not entirely true!)

ELIAS: “Your other impression is correct.”

VICKI: “Carver.”

ELIAS: “Your location is correct also.”

VICKI: “And the color alignment?”

ELIAS: “Ah! I must now offer points for alignment within color? (We all crack up) This is the exercise of your game!”

(Vic’s note to Elias: That’s not what I meant, and you know it! I was not trusting my impression of color alignment, and you know that too!) [session 104, July 14, 1996]

Ilda Ryan Virginia/California, USA
JIM: “Okay. I have a game impression. In the category of connecting essences, to connect Yarr [Jim], Michael [Mary], and Olivia [Ron], in the category of mythical creatures, with Pegasus.”

ELIAS: (Grinning) “And incorporate with Olivia [Ron], also ... ?”

JIM: “Yes. Incorporate with Olivia [Ron] also, with Michael [Mary] and Yarr [Jim].”

ELIAS: “And?”

JIM: “And? Lawrence [Vicki]?”

ELIAS: “And?”

JIM: “Oh, okay. That goes that far! Shynla [Cathy]?”

ELIAS: “No. Ryan.”

JIM: “What? Ron?”

ELIAS: “Ryan.”

JIM: “Ryan?”

ELIAS: “Correct! One point!” (Laughter)

JIM: (Laughing) “Oh, thank you! Who’s Ryan?”

VICKI: “Ryan is the baby that was born to Rena [Gerri].” (6)

JIM: “Shynla’s [Cathy’s] friend?”

ELIAS: “Olivia’s [Ron’s] twin; therefore, not separable.”

JIM: “Cool!”

ELIAS: “Very good! One point!”

JIM: “That’s all for now.” [session 66, January 14, 1996]

ELIAS: “Ah! We shall be attempting to be aligning the small ones to the families already! (Pause, grinning at Cathy) No!”

CATHY: “Fine!” (Laughter)

RON: “The game kind of started with those babies. Now, the babies have all been born, and it seems like the game is not really as important as it seemed before.”

ELIAS: “Ah, not so! I shall offer you an explanation. I have postponed the engagement of our game out of consideration to Michael [Mary], for he experiences conflict presently. Therefore, in response to this, I have allowed our session time to be minimized.”

RON: “It seems like we must all be picking up on that, because it used to be we were always prepared for the game, and recently, within the last few sessions, it’s not really a consideration. It’s not an issue.”

VICKI: “I’m prepared!” (Laughter)

ELIAS: “Some allow the game to be a distraction; some are distracted from the game!” (Grinning, and a pause) [session 100, June 16, 1996]

CATHY: “Oh! Okay. How about green [Ilda], Ryan, California.”

RON: “Can’t you be more specific?” (Quite sarcastically!)

ELIAS: (Grinning at Cathy) “One point.” [session 104, July 14, 1996]

ELIAS: “As you view your young ones within your present time period, you have already noticed that they move farther away from religious alignments. You already notice the subjectiveness of small ones. You may recognize the intuitiveness of your young people within this present now. These nine manifestations hold a great intuitive power. Each, as has been stated, will be representative of each family. In this, they shall display the qualities and characteristics of each of these families as they were, in your terms, ‘before the beginning.’ Their individual lives, to your way of thinking, shall be greatly affecting physically and also greatly within consciousness, for each of them is quite directed within their focus and their intent. Each of them holds an understanding of the intent of the individual family to which they belong. They shall be affecting of all that they encounter physically, in regard to the family that they represent. Even within very small children, as they are presently, they have already begun. Each of them has already made choices that are affecting of great numbers of individuals, although you may not see this.

“I shall express of one, of Ryan; this seemingly to be an ordinary child, but already within this small life span, this small individual has already been so dramatically affecting of the individual parents that the parents have expanded outward and initiated contact and interaction with many other individuals in concern for this infant. This is the rippling affect that these small ones already display. Within one other of these children, within the location of Scotland, this child offers already, at very small age, medical helpfulness to another within the family, which the family extends outward to many other individuals, touching their lives also with concern to this small infant.

“These children, from the moment of their births, within consciousness, are very affecting in a directing manner leading into your shift. You have inquired as to the fame of these children. These children will not be world-wide famous individuals, but these children, scattered throughout your globe, shall be intensely helpful and affecting of the movement of your shift; for within consciousness, they shall be helpful to your movement into returning to your natural state.” [session 150, January 26, 1997]

Sumari Enulee Australia
VICKI: “Okay. With the babies, I would like to connect the name Wilson with Sumari, location Australia.”

ELIAS: “One point for location.” (Long pause, while Vicki tweaks) [session 126, September 29, 1996]

GAIL: “Well, I have one that I’m going to try. With the babies, the one that’s in Australia, Lee, the front part of the name is E-M-U.”

ELIAS: Alter middle letter.”

GAIL: “W.” (Elias shakes his head)

DREW: “But the last letter is correct?”

ELIAS: “Correct.”

BOB: “N?”

GAIL: “N?”

ELIAS: “Very good! One point!” [session 188, June 29, 1997]

Tumold Oliver Czechoslovakia
VICKI: “For Rudy [Jene], in the category of the babies, she would like to connect the name Oliver in indigo [Tumold].”

ELIAS: “One point.” [session 115, August 25, 1996]

CATHY: “And for myself, I would like to connect, in the names and the locations of the babies, Oliver, location, Czechoslovakia.”

ELIAS: “Very good, Shynla! One point!” [session 188, June 29, 1997]

Zuli Mi Wu Li Beijing
VICKI: “For Michael [Mary], in the name and location category, to enter the name Mi Wu Li with Zuli.”

ELIAS: “One point.” [session 104, July 14, 1996]

VICKI: “For Cathy: Zuli, names and locations of the babies, Beijing.”

ELIAS: “Beijing. (Correcting pronunciation) One point.” [session 242, November 23, 1997]

Borledim Alex California, USA/England
VICKI: “And with the babies; the name Alex, location California, with the Borledim family.”

ELIAS: “One point for the name connected to the correct color; incorrect in location. Another example of singularly directed perception! An infant is residing presently within a location (7); therefore, this infant must automatically be connected to this particular location! This may not be the location of the focus of this individual, within their purpose of intent.”

CATHY: “He’ll pack his little bags and move!” (We all crack up)

VICKI: “Interesting!” [session 107, July 28, 1996]

VICKI: “To go back to the babies, the location of Alex, England.”

ELIAS: “One point.” [session 113, August 18, 1996]

Sumafi Sean Washington, USA
JENE: “Also, I would like to know why Sean Patrick decided, if there is a why that isn’t very large, to become an ‘adoptee.’” (8)

ELIAS: “Ah! If there is not a reason that is not very large!”

JENE: “Well, it normally is very large!” (Laughing)

ELIAS: “As is the case within this situation also. As I have expressed previously, this individual, irregardless of its limited age within physical focus, has been affecting already of very many individuals, and shall continue to be so throughout its focus. It has begun immediately, from the instant of birth into your physical existence, being affecting within its first moments of life, as you view it; as also, in different expressions, are the other focuses of this essence which have physically manifest. Each shall engage belief systems, thought processes, elements of existence. Each shall challenge, for this is their intent in aligning with the implementation of your shift. This last manifestation of the essence of Rose chooses great affectingness continually, in stirring your belief systems. It has affected many more individuals, within this choice, than it would have in choosing other probabilities.”

JENE: “Understood. Thank you.” [session 103, July 07, 1996]

CATHY: “In the new category of names and places of babies, I would like to connect Sean, with black, in Washington [State].”

ELIAS: “Issue two points.” [session 105, July 17, 1996]

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “Your mass event of your shift is another expression, physically manifest; an interpretation of an aspect or element of a Source Event; just as your religious expression was and is also an expression, within a mass event, of this same Source Event. It is an interpretation; this mass expression and interpretation serving as a counterbalance; the incorporation of the feminine aspect of essence in balance to the male.” (Pause)

VICKI: “Will we find more people choosing to manifest within female?”

ELIAS: “Presently, no; although I will express to you, you may view with interest that within physical focus, you have always manifest numbers of more females, physically, than males.”

VICKI: “What is the gender of the other six babies [of the essence of Rose]?”

ELIAS: (Smiling) “These shall also be male.”

VICKI: “And is there a specific reason for that?”

ELIAS: “Yes. As I have expressed this evening, the male, within your present now and moving into your shift, is expressing the desire to be incorporating the intuitive sense. These individuals are manifest intentionally as male to be exhibiting, physically, the expression of this shift. Therefore, another contradiction! (Grinning) The female within the male; a very creative, intuitive expression.” [session 100, June 16, 1996]

ELIAS: “These children, from the moment of their births, within consciousness, are very affecting in a directing manner leading into your shift. You have inquired as to the fame of these children. These children will not be world-wide famous individuals, but these children, scattered throughout your globe, shall be intensely helpful and affecting of the movement of your shift; for within consciousness, they shall be helpful to your movement into returning to your natural state.” [session 150, January 26, 1997]

ELIAS: “The essence of Rose has manifest purposefully as all males. This action is to be helpful within the action of this shift, and also to be providing an example, as we have stated within our analogy of the little saplings. (9) The essence of Rose manifests as males, and as these males continue through their focuses they shall be displaying qualities that shall more be aligned with those qualities that you identify as female, but shall hold the orientation sexually as male. They shall continue through their focuses being identified and recognized the same as yourselves as male, but shall hold the ability of accessing intuition and emotion in the manner that you assign naturally to females. This shall offer examples of the lack of separation within all expressions within physical focus.

“It is unnecessary for you to be separating any longer so intensely. You move into the area of more of an awareness, an expanded awareness, and more of a knowing and a remembrance of essence. Therefore, you also drop many of the veils that you hold within physical focus that provide you not only with your singularity, but with your divisions and your separations. In dropping the veils of your separations, you offer yourselves more freedom and more of an ability to access your own creativity.

“These manifestations of Rose are now quite small little individuals. They are – all nine – little ones, all in what you may term to be three years or less. Already they begin to display abilities and awarenesses that are uncommon to your physical focus. Their intuitive senses are very highly developed and they already are expressive of this intuitive sense, which is already being recognized, not only by those individuals that are designated as their parents, but also by all individuals that physically encounter them presently. They are already beginning to be affecting within consciousness.” [session 298, July 16, 1998]

ELIAS: “... This [action of mergence] would also be the action that the essence of Rose has engaged, which I have offered as an example of the diversity of essence, for I have offered you information of Rose purposefully, to be altering your perception.

“You move in the direction of thinking of essence as this constant, one element, and it is not. Therefore, as I throw to you the ball of Rose, you become confused, for this is inconsistent with all that you think, but it offers you the example of many different actions that essence holds, which is FAR wider than you allow yourself an understanding of.

“As I have expressed recently, this essence [of Rose] moves into a position presently of the action of fragmentation of all of these manifestations, which are not fragmented yet within your linear time framework, but all hold different essence families and alignments, which THIS you do not question! I have expressed to you that your essence holds the essence family – the focuses hold the alignment – but you do not question that I have expressed to you also that each manifestation, each focus of Rose belongs to a different family and aligns with a different family, but is the same essence. This is the diversity of essence, and the ‘beyond’ your physical thought processes and concepts.

“And you are quite correct – all of this IS very much larger than you understand or allow yourselves to view! It is INFINITELY bigger. (Grinning) The word infinite means nothing to you. You do not comprehend the VASTNESS of infinite, and even the word vast means nothing to you!”

VICKI: “It’s almost like you get to the point where ... you know, like my thought process right now is like, why even try to define anything? The next time somebody asks me to define anything, I’m just gonna tell them it’s really big!”

ELIAS: “Quite! And this would be accurate!” (Chuckling, and laughter) [session 333, October 19, 1998]

PAUL: “... the nine children of Rose are somewhere around four or five years old now, and quite physically focused individuals. I’m curious what role they are playing within this particular mass actualization of movement [regarding the insertion of the shift probabilities]?

ELIAS: “Their role is to be moving in conjunction with this shift in consciousness with ease, incorporating all elements of your reality without conflict and the actualization of acceptance.

“Each of these manifestations participates in different expressions of beliefs, different expressions of actualized reality through objective perception, and expresses an acceptance of those creations of reality within the expressions of the beliefs, and each of these manifestations offers a lending of energy to this shift in consciousness through an expression of a lack of conflict.” [session 530, December 29, 1999]

MALE: “Elias, at this point in time, could you give us a brief update on the nine children – and they would be about five or six now – and whether or not they’re aware of anything, or if anyone involved with them is aware....”

ELIAS: “Oh, they are quite aware of many things, so to speak!” (Laughter)

MALE: “Are they affecting yet?”

ELIAS: “They are affecting in like manner to YOUR affecting. (Short but emphatic pause.)

“And I may express to you that these individuals, as I have stated previously, are NOT creating an intention or an intent to become the new manifestations of messiahs!

“Their intent and their action, in relation to their particular essence families, each of them, is to be expressing an embodiment of movement, once again, in what YOU associate as the male to the female expression in the action of this shift, and as I have stated, each of these manifestations are male for this express purpose, so to speak, to be lending energy to the accomplishment of this shift in consciousness, not necessarily in flamboyant manner, but to be a representative of each essence family in the movement from the association of male energy in expression into the female expression of energy, which lends energy to you all in your movement.

(Jovially) “Other than this expression, I may report to you that all are well, (laughter) and experiencing what you deem to be normal childhood experiences! Ha ha ha ha ha!” (Chuckling) [session 704, October 07, 2000]

ELIAS: “... As I have expressed, this is not the point of these manifestations. These manifestations of these small ones have not been generated as some guiding force or that they incorporate a greater awareness than do other small ones manifesting in this time framework in this shift.

“This has been expressed purposefully in an offering of energy in helpfulness of this essence of Rose in association with shifting the energy within your physical dimension from that of a male expression to the female expression of energy, and this is the reason that the manifestations are all generated in the gender of male.” [session 1091, May 25, 2002]

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “We shall deviate this evening, temporarily, from our text, to be addressing to more immediate issues. To begin with, I shall offer my heartiest congratulations and acknowledgment to you all, for you have fared well throughout your entirety of your pregnancies, and you have accomplished well, within your labor and delivery, in new birth. (Here, there is an interesting pause, during which you can almost hear all of us thinking, ‘What the heck are you talking about???’)

This evening’s session shall serve to allow you the opportunity to view the interconnectedness of you all, and also of all physically focused essences. My congratulations is not extended to Elizabeth [Elizabeth] (10), although I shall be offering this also, but to each of you; for we have demonstrated, many times to you previously, the parallels that you exhibit within physical focus, within actions. You continue to be astonished at how you connect and experience similarities. We continue to express to you that within waves of energy and consciousness, you experience underlying intents the same. You also, not accidentally, incorporate examples to be helpful to you, for your understanding of your movements and your actions.

Within our group of individuals, we have incorporated one small one who has physically manifest, for you, the expression of the symbol of what you each also experience, within your own movement and action and experiences. Throughout our time, you have experienced our conception, our initiation; the inception of our meetings. You have also experienced their incubation, allowing yourselves a period of time to become acquainted; to become acquainted with yourselves, and with others, and with essence. This relationship has grown; has been nurtured. You have brought this relationship to its term, so to speak; to the point that it shall come into its fruition.

In this, you also have experienced, within your individual focuses, your own labor. Some individuals experience a quite joyful excitement. Some experience confusion and reluctance. Some experience much overwhelming emotion. Some experience frustration. Some experience anger. All experience an extreme expression of emotion within a limited time period, for each of you has anticipated bringing forth an element, or what you may term an aspect of yourselves, of your essence, into objective consciousness; therefore giving birth to an aspect of your own selves.

I have been expressing for some time that we embark upon a new agenda. This is beginning. This also coincides with your new awakening and beginning within this area. You may individually experience feelings of sadness or loss; an aspect of a familiarity ending. This is your physical interpretation, not wishing to incorporate change; although with the new birth, the new change also may be quite rewarding and wonderful! As a new mother with a small one, there is apprehension and fearfulness. There is reluctance. There are many emotions expressed, for they incorporate a tremendous new challenge; but they also allow themselves the opportunity to view and experience what you term to be a new miracle.

As there are no accidents, it also is no accident that our Elizabeth [Elizabeth] was incorporated into this company, and holds strong connections. You may find that you have experienced fleeting feelings, temporarily, of separation, confusion, uncertainty; also, as I have stated previously, being connected with a feeling of ‘ending.’ As there are no actual endings or beginnings, there is no ending presently either. We are embarking upon a new course. This is not to say that our previous course shall be ending. We only expand; therefore we increase.

This new physical focus marks the final, if you are choosing this word final, manifestation of Rose. There are, in actuality, nine, being representative, obviously, of your families; this being the final, actual physical birth. All of these small ones have been manifest now. Therefore, you identify, without an objective knowing, an ending, for the gestation has ended, in your terms. But also, there is incorporated a beginning, for these mark a beginning of ‘the new consciousness,’ if you will; a new awareness; you being fortunate to have the opportunity to be viewing and observing three of the nine. In this, you may wish to be incorporating this opportunity to show yourselves the difference of these small ones, for it shall be noticeable. It has been obvious already, within two. It shall be obvious within the third.

(Vic’s note: Originally, we were under the impression that Rose would be manifesting within twins, and we were aware of these babies. Recently, we discovered a third, these being the three that Elias is referring to. Now, we learn that there are nine babies!)

This, in your time frame, is a time that you may be viewing with great joy and excitement! I have spoken to you recently quite seriously, expressing the importance of your understanding and your involvement within consciousness, as related to your shift. I have spoken to you of your responsibilities. I now express to you also that within these responsibilities, and the action of movement of consciousness that you have chosen to be involved with, you may also allow yourself the realization of the miracle of your creation. Each of you has brought forth aspects of consciousness to be engaging this shift. This is not to say that you have completed, for there is no completion; but you have allowed the emergence. Therefore, you may begin to stand ready. You continue with your learning, and your connecting, and noticing, and widening; but you shall also be quite affecting, more directly, within consciousness, for you have allowed yourselves to be connecting with yourselves; and although you may view yourselves to be not so very connected, (grinning) or ‘slipping backwards,’ I assure you, you move quite effectively within your forward direction. You have learned much. You hold the willingness to ‘run the race!’ You have our acknowledgment for accomplishments.

... I express to you; be you emotionally-focused, thought-focused, politically-focused, religiously-focused, all experience a surge of emotional influx in relation to birth. It is an emotional experience within physical focus. You also incorporate, within these individuals and also many others not present within this particular group, a knowing of Rose and this emergence into physical focus, which translates by resonating emotionally within each of you. You may experience excitement, or joy, or despair; but you shall experience an emotional response.

It is also not an accident that your time factor coincides. We deal with these individuals present within our small group, for it is easier for you to understand and relate to, but these expressions extend far beyond this small company. The other six new little ones do not reside within this small area. One is what you would term to be as far away as China. Therefore, what you experience is another wave within consciousness that you have connected to; but you also, within another layer of consciousness, create your own individual expressions; and you also, within another layer of consciousness, create an expression connecting with each other within a small focus or group, as these individuals present. Just as we speak of the connections of Source Events and mass events and individuals events, you also individually connect, within many areas or layers of consciousness, within one intent; but holding many expressions, connecting in many directions.

... And so shall you also, for you are connected within consciousness, and also very affecting. Do not be discounting of self, for each essence is its own miracle also. I have expressed many times, and will do so once again on this joyous event, you are your very highest expression!

Much confusion and conflict rages within this gestation. Hear me, as I have expressed to each of you thus far also, the birth has occurred! The confusion and the conflict continues, but I shall express to you symbolically, and also partially physically focused, you share much within the same element of conflict as our symbol of Elizabeth [Elizabeth] herself; for within the bringing forth of this new essence, the confusion rages. The conflict is extreme. The denial is very strong. Therefore, you parallel within this aspect.

You view the reality of the birth, but the fear seems to be overwhelming; the confusion of not knowing, the reluctance to move forward for fear of painfulness. (Softly) Realize, within you, you need not fear, for you hold the ability to be holding of yourself. Therefore, hurtfulness is unnecessary; for if you are not looking to outside to be fulfilling of inside, there will be no hurtfulness. I express also that we are here, and helpful within this endeavor.

This small one shall be an interesting encounter for you all, for this manifestation of Rose, as all the others also, holds amazing abilities within this physical focus. Be heartened! They also hold a tremendous connection to you all.” [session 98, June 05, 1996]

ELIAS: “These small ones are not going to grow to adulthood, and all nine create a manifestation of world leaders. They shall not necessarily be known, each, throughout your entirety of your world. Their influence and their power, so to speak, lies within their abilities within consciousness. They shall each manifest the intents within a purity of each of the essence families. This is not to say that they may each be standing upon a soapbox shouting to your entire planet of their individual families, but within the action of the accomplishment of the shift, they shall be quite helpful. Each shall focus upon the individuals of that family and add, within consciousness, helpfulness to be moving into the action of the shift and widening awareness.

NORM: So they’re going to participate and have a great deal of influence in subsequent mass events?

ELIAS: Let me explain that your Jesus, and also the other two manifestations of this one essence, did not in actuality physically manifest much of what you now, within your present time period, believe. (11) These are belief systems that you have created. These are ideas aligned with the Source Event. No individual alone, one person or even three persons, would hold the ability to be moving the entirety of mass consciousness. It is agreement amongst you all. These are symbols that you have provided for yourselves. The ideas are much more powerful than the actual manifestation.

In this same manner, these individuals are representatives, just as the three were representatives. They are symbols. This is not to say that each of these individuals does not hold great power within consciousness, but they hold no more power than do you. They hold more intentional directedness within their intent. They are aware of their intent. Their powerfulness is no greater than your own. They are only more aware within a remembrance. Therefore, they hold a significance within the action of the shift, just as the three individuals held, in your terms, a significance within the action of your religious development; for they are symbols, and they remember.” [session 141, December 22, 1996]

NORM: “It seems to me that the manner or the method of the shift, could it have been done or initiated or continued in a way that would have less traumatic events, or have we selected it this way?

ELIAS: You have chosen the actions that occur. Now; within the present engagement of action of movement of this shift, you are widening your awareness to be affecting within changing of probabilities established within your religious element. These are very strong belief systems. You have created very strong expectations globally, of events that you have chosen within probabilities to occur. Within the action of this shift, you may be altering of these actions within a recognition that it is unnecessary to be creating of devastation for your attention. You do not need to be creating floods, famines, earthquakes, holocausts to be gaining your attention and initiating movement into what you view to be a new era. You may easily move into your new awareness without all of your fireworks! In this, you hold a task of being helpful and also influencing within consciousness of these belief systems that hold to absoluteness in established probabilities.

I have expressed to you previously, your religious element, your era, shall not disappear without struggle. Although you have chosen and agreed collectively to move into a new awareness and you have chosen the probability of this shift, many are reluctant to be moving. You are reluctant to be moving! As your own consciousness widens and you experience new elements within your daily experience, you pull back. You hold reluctance yourselves! You are not jumping into this shift with both feet! You hold to your belief systems quite strongly. You find it difficult to be accepting of belief systems. You continue with your religious era and with its manifestations.

Each individual offers themselves information that will speak to them to be accomplishing in the movement of this shift, but within the beginning throes of this shift the movement is not easy, just as within the movement of a revolution there is turmoil and conflict. You engage within a global shift of consciousness, which is a much greater mass event than a revolution of a country. It is a greater action than your world war. It is tremendous. Therefore, there shall be conflict. You would not be speaking with this essence were you not approaching this shift.

NORM: I wish I would have been able to say I would anyway, but you’re probably right. I’m interested in the problem associated with devastation. The energy that is being developed due to these conflicts is going to be expressed in devastation. Does it have to be that way?

ELIAS: No! This is the point! This is your direction.

NORM: So we can be very helpful in the mass events, and the nine are doing that in ...

ELIAS: You are accomplishing this! (Firmly) Do not look to these nine manifestations to be carrying your planet! They are initiators. They are helpers. They are directors within the intent of the individual essence families. They are not responsible singularly for movement of this shift! You all are contributant to the action of this shift.” [session 145, January 05, 1997]

ELIAS: “We shall begin, once again, ‘before the beginning.’ I shall clarify once more that the essence of Rose, which is designated within your game, is of the family Sumafi and represents the Borledim family within your game. (12) This essence of Rose was Seer ‘before the beginning.’ Many essences have fragmented from this essence of Rose. This essence expressed or expresses a unique desire and intent within the Sumafi. This essence is very initiating, quite in alignment with the family of Gramada, but is Sumafi. ‘Before the beginning,’ this essence of Rose was initiating of the Sumafi, which were Seer and which were not completely physically manifest. This essence of Rose has not been completely physically manifest until now.

We spoke of a parallel within mass events of the three essences which were initiating of your Christian movement, the three manifestations of one essence, and how these parallel with this essence of Rose in this mass event of your shift. The manifestation of this essence into physical focus is divided into nine expressions. In this, these nine expressions are nine different families. This is unusual. Normally speaking, in your terms, as you manifest and fragment you will most likely fragment a new essence which shall be of the same family as you, for it is part of your essence and therefore holds similar tone. This is not to say that this is the rule; but normally, fragmented essences shall be closely aligned with the fragmenting essence.

This one essence chooses to diversify itself into each of the essence families. In this, it also holds its focus of Sumafi underlying. Each of these manifestations do not belong to the Sumafi family, except one; but they hold all the quality of the Sumafi family, for this is the essence which is manifest. Each of these manifestations are not a fragment. They are all an expression of one essence. All of your expressions of essence are Sumafi. They may align with different families within different focuses, but your essence is Sumafi. Therefore, all of your focuses are Sumafi. Rose is Sumafi. All nine of these manifestations, which are focuses, are not Sumafi. This is what you may term as a unique event.

As you view your young ones within your present time period, you have already noticed that they move farther away from religious alignments. You already notice the subjectiveness of small ones. You may recognize the intuitiveness of your young people within this present now. These nine manifestations hold a great intuitive power. Each, as has been stated, will be representative of each family. In this, they shall display the qualities and characteristics of each of these families as they were, in your terms, ‘before the beginning.’ Their individual lives, to your way of thinking, shall be greatly affecting physically and also greatly within consciousness, for each of them is quite directed within their focus and their intent. Each of them holds an understanding of the intent of the individual family to which they belong. They shall be affecting of all that they encounter physically, in regard to the family that they represent. Even within very small children, as they are presently, they have already begun. Each of them has already made choices that are affecting of great numbers of individuals, although you may not see this.

I shall express of one, of Ryan; this seemingly to be an ordinary child, but already within this small life span, this small individual has already been so dramatically affecting of the individual parents that the parents have expanded outward and initiated contact and interaction with many other individuals in concern for this infant. This is the rippling affect that these small ones already display. Within one other of these children, within the location of Scotland, this child offers already, at very small age, medical helpfulness to another within the family, which the family extends outward to many other individuals, touching their lives also with concern to this small infant.

These children, from the moment of their births, within consciousness, are very affecting in a directing manner leading into your shift. You have inquired as to the fame of these children. These children will not be world-wide famous individuals, but these children, scattered throughout your globe, shall be intensely helpful and affecting of the movement of your shift; for within consciousness, they shall be helpful to your movement into returning to your natural state.

This is not to say that you are not within a natural state presently! You are in an altered natural state. (Grinning) What you view now as altered states are natural to essence. What you experience is an altered state! It is also part of your confusion; for as you move into more expressed communication with essence, you begin to experience the multidimensionality of essence, which you may feel as an altered state continuously throughout your day. In actuality, this is natural. It has been expressed to you many times that you are much more than you view. You are not one singular entity. There are myriads of aspects of yourself. You are only familiar with one.

NORM: ... The Christian story is one where Christ himself was not well-known on this Earth to very many people. You are saying that the nine babies of Rose’s essence are not going to be well-known. The Christian mass event that occurred within three hundred years changed the Roman empire to a Christian empire, and that really occurred due to the dream state of the humans alive at that time. Are the nine children, infants, are they going to be influential in that operational fashion, through the dream state? That they will create dreams on this Earth with the people that are here that will actually cause the shift? Is that going to be the methodology?

ELIAS: In part. You are correct that within your Christian religious movement, much of this activity in information was delivered through dream state and then objectified. These nine individuals shall incorporate this action also, but they shall also move beyond this. They shall hold the ability effortlessly, to be expressing of subjective information objectively. Therefore, they shall be instrumental within waking state also, and communicative within waking state. The communication shall not only be within dream state. It shall also be objectively expressed, and shall be more accepted.

NORM: Yet, they won’t be well known. Will they write books? How will they effectively do this?

ELIAS: (Smiling) As you all affect each other through consciousness continuously. The difference, as I have expressed, is that they, in part, remember. Therefore, they are more directed. You communicate and influence and move within consciousness continuously. You only are not objectively aware of your movement. You, within your dream state, are continually affecting of consciousness in all areas, but objectively you do not understand how to be manipulating intentionally within this state. These individuals will hold this ability naturally. You must learn.

NORM: Right. So the relationship between our five objective senses, or their relationship between their five objective senses and their nine inner senses is going to be more connected?

ELIAS: Correct.

NORM: They will be able, with their nine inner senses, to influence others, almost without them knowing it?

ELIAS: No. This is not a situation of what you may be thinking, of subliminal influence. They shall be affecting in the same manner that you are affecting, but they shall hold an awareness. You affect equally, but you do not hold an awareness of your affectingness. You do not see the affectingness within your dream state of your interaction with another individual within consciousness, in a location of Poland. It occurs, but you are unaware. You do not hold the awareness to objectively be manipulating and directing of your subjective activity. You accomplish this. You only are not objectively aware. These individuals shall be aware.

NORM: Will they be teaching us to be aware through our ability to use the nine inner senses, or beginning to use the nine inner senses?

ELIAS: You are teaching you presently!

NORM: I’m trying to!

ELIAS: They are the oil in the wheel.

NORM: I am the oil in the wheel?

ELIAS: They.

NORM: They are the oil in the wheel. That’s nice. I’d like to have you clarify the relationship as an aspect of essence. The Rose essence has never manifested on this earth, but now the Rose essence has, but in the fashion of nine representing all of the families ...

ELIAS: Being!

NORM: Nine beings?

ELIAS: Not representing!

NORM: Yeah, nine essence families, but there are nine individual babies that are not fragments. They’re not aspects. They are, the sum of them, Rose. Is that the proper way to say it?

ELIAS: They are all Rose.

NORM: Each one of them is complete, a complete Rose. (Elias nods) You say that this has never happened before. Why hasn’t it happened?

ELIAS: You have not been ready. You have not chosen.” [session 150, January 26, 1997]

ELIAS: “This is also symbolic of this action of the shift; for within this shift, the Seer essence of Rose has chosen to physically manifest for the first time, so to speak, within the incarnation of nine babies.

NICKY: Oh yeah! That’s right! Rudy was telling me about that!

ELIAS: Therefore, you are connecting with this information.

NICKY: Oh! Like an awareness of that issue there, of the babies? Are the babies being born? Is that what it is?

ELIAS: These nine have already all been born. They are all quite small within this present now. The youngest has in your time framework become one year ...

NICKY: Oh, okay.

ELIAS: ... but they are all within a small time period of each other. Therefore, they are all very close within age group.

NICKY: So I just happened to be aware ... Because I’m overwhelmed, especially now that you told me this Hebrew one. I thought, ‘Why am I getting a baby? I’m too old to have babies any more!’ (Laughing)

ELIAS: It is a confirmation in recognition of this shift.

NICKY: Now the babies, where do they fit in with the shift? What is their intent in this shift?

ELIAS: To be helpful and directing within consciousness in the movement of the shift, within the least distortion. They shall be, as they grow, dispersing themselves throughout your planet, and they shall be instrumental within consciousness in helping the accomplishment of this shift. Already, all of these individual children display unusual abilities.” [session 181, June 05, 1997]

JIM: “Elias, Seth had said that one of the Christ entities would return in the near future, to in effect tear down most religions and change things. Will this be part of the shift? Is there any indication that something like this will happen?

ELIAS: This has occurred presently – not within your understanding, but this essence, within a mergence of another tone, has chosen to be physically manifesting. I shall explain.

One essence has been choosing, within what you view to be your past, to physically manifest within three physical manifestations within the same time period. One manifestation, one lens focus of this essence, chose to be continuing within the ending of this religious era. In this, one aspect, one lens focus, one of these three manifestations within nonphysical consciousness has merged with one essence which has not incorporated physical focus previously. (13) In this, this nonphysical essence not previously manifest was incorporated as a Dream Walker. This essence incorporates that aspect merged of the other essence. In this, this nonphysically focused essence has already incorporated the only manifestation of its choosing. This has been accomplished presently.

The accomplishment of the physical manifestation was occurring within what you view to be your year previous to this. This essence has manifest within the physical focuses of nine individuals, one to be representing of each family of consciousness within this dimension. All nine are male entities/manifestations. All nine are manifest. They are all very small children. You may be considering them babies, all, for they have all been manifest within the same time period of one-and-one-half years. In this, all of these physically focused children, which presently occupy different space arrangements upon your planet, hold exceptional abilities within the intent of each family and within a knowing of subjective awareness. Therefore, each shall be quite influencing within the accomplishment of this shift and the dissolution of your religious era. It shall not be the form upon the blazing horse across your sky, much to your disappointment! (Laughter) But less dramatically, they shall all be quite influencing within this shift, and it shall be accomplished in its entirety within their lifetime.” [session 185, June 21, 1997]

VICKI: “For Mary, from England: She asked a question about the draw she has to come to the United States when she attended the session in Elmira, and she really didn’t understand the answer, and has asked again if you could comment on the fact that she would love to know how her work will develop in America.

ELIAS: If choosing to move in this direction, as I have stated, this individual may be instrumental within energy in consciousness in lending energy to the nine manifestations of Rose, which this individual holds a strong recognition of and draw to. Therefore, within the initial time framework of small ones, as they occupy the space arrangement of this continent more than within other areas of your planet presently, this individual may be instrumental in furthering this action of this shift in conjunction with these small ones which occupy this continent. This be the draw that is being experienced; but there is uncertainty within unfamiliarity, and therefore a holding back within movement to be venturing to new space location in your countries.” [session 205, August 10, 1997]

MALE: “Basically, I was interested (inaudible) in the ‘second coming’ of Christ. I’ve been receiving a lot of information that’s kind of fallen into my hands, and so I want somebody to take it a little further. I don’t know exactly where I should go with it.

ELIAS: At our next meeting we shall be discussing the manifestation of Rose, which has incarnated, so to speak, into nine manifestations. Within your game there exists a category of these infants, their names and locations, which have been accessed and entered into your game. These are the nine manifestations of the essence of Rose, and this choice for manifestation is directly related to this shift in consciousness.

All of these small ones have been manifest within this reality within less than two years of each other. They are all male, and each manifestation is representative of one particular essence family. Each is aligned with and belonging to one particular essence family, being the representative of these families and of the Dream Walkers, and shall hold significance in this within the action of this shift.

This is also directly related to what you think of as your prophecies of biblical origins of what you term to be ‘the second coming,’ although that also is a distortion in how it has been offered in information previously, and its predictions also. The actual manifestation and mergence of essences in this action is different from that which has been presented to you biblically. Those are interpretations filtered through religious belief systems and then offered objectively to the masses.

In this, I shall be offering information of these nine manifestations in our next meeting, for as you are aware, there is a great acceleration within energy of this shift presently. You may all be experiencing affects of the acceleration of this shift.

Many individuals experience much conflict or the beginnings of trauma. Some individuals are experiencing great elation. Some individuals experience an overwhelming sense of anticipation or a knowing that there is some element undefined occurring within consciousness presently. These are all correct perceptions, for the energy is accelerating in the action of this shift, in movement toward its accomplishments.

As I have stated, objectively within your time frame you hold little time left, so to speak, to be completely accomplishing of this shift in consciousness. There is much to accomplish and much to alter. The entirety of your reality shall be altered! In this, you need be accelerating quite quickly, (grinning, and laughter) for the entirety of the accomplishment of this shift in consciousness, as I have stated previously, shall be within the third quarter of your next century. This leaves you not much time to be altering globally of all of your realities! But as always, I hold GREAT confidence that you shall be accomplishing QUITE efficiently and immaculately, as always!

Be anticipating information of Rose at our next meeting, for there is great movement occurring within these nine manifestations. They continue to be very small, for in your terms they hold little years, the oldest being not more than three, but already they are affecting within consciousness, and also objectively.

MALE: Are you saying that all nine are the same age, or did you say that there’s two years between them?

ELIAS: They are within the same age group, so to speak; the youngest being of two years, the oldest being of not more than three.

MALE: And they all are in the same location?

ELIAS: No. As you view within your game board, you may recognize that they occupy different locations throughout your globe. There are several, though, that are located within this particular country."[session 287, June 18, 1998]

ELIAS: “This one essence, which has been a Dream Walker and that we speak of now, is designated with the translation of tone as Rose. This is not an identification of gender, for within essence there is no gender. It is merely an identification, within language, of a tone. This essence of Rose has chosen within this time framework to become physically manifest. This in itself may be termed to be a revolutionary action, for as I have stated, the Dream Walkers have chosen not to be physically manifest entirely. Within this present now, this essence of Rose is physically manifest within nine physical manifestations upon your planet. Each of these manifestations, as I have expressed previously, holds the gender of male. This also is a purposeful action.

You move into this shift in consciousness and you are altering your reality in a new direction. You have identified your reality within this dimension, to this point in your time framework, as male. You identify everything within your physical dimension in the area of gender, for this is an element of this particular dimension. You have created this dimension for the experience of gender and emotion. Therefore, you separate all of your elements within this particular physical dimension into areas of emotion and gender.

You even separate time frameworks into gender orientation. You separate thought processes into gender orientation. You divide your physical bodies into gender orientations. You identify left/male, right/female. You identify certain elements of thought as being male-oriented and certain elements of thought as being female-oriented. You identify thought as male and emotion as female. Your time framework has moved in the direction, to this point in your identification, as male. The orientation is male and the emphasis has been male, thought-focused and rational, which are also identifications of male. You move now into the action of this shift in consciousness, which you shall identify as female: the emotion, the intuition. Your eastern philosophies shall also mirror this, as they designate that you now move into a time framework of the female.

This is not to say that you are separating and that your female genders shall be ruling your planet! It is merely an identification of the gender in time framework, and as I have stated, you identify all of your elements within this dimension in the area of gender.

The essence of Rose has manifest purposefully as all males. This action is to be helpful within the action of this shift, and also to be providing an example, as we have stated within our analogy of the little saplings. The essence of Rose manifests as males, and as these males continue through their focuses they shall be displaying qualities that shall more be aligned with those qualities that you identify as female, but shall hold the orientation sexually as male. They shall continue through their focuses being identified and recognized the same as yourselves as male, but shall hold the ability of accessing intuition and emotion in the manner that you assign naturally to females. This shall offer examples of the lack of separation within all expressions within physical focus.

It is unnecessary for you to be separating any longer so intensely. You move into the area of more of an awareness, an expanded awareness, and more of a knowing and a remembrance of essence. Therefore, you also drop many of the veils that you hold within physical focus that provide you not only with your singularity, but with your divisions and your separations. In dropping the veils of your separations, you offer yourselves more freedom and more of an ability to access your own creativity.

These manifestations of Rose are now quite small little individuals. They are – all nine – little ones, all in what you may term to be three years or less. Already they begin to display abilities and awarenesses that are uncommon to your physical focus. Their intuitive senses are very highly developed and they already are expressive of this intuitive sense, which is already being recognized, not only by those individuals that are designated as their parents, but also by all individuals that physically encounter them presently. They are already beginning to be affecting within consciousness.

We move into the area of discussing simultaneous time also, for this is quite relative to Rose. It is relative and relevant to all things within your physical focus, but within this discussion of Rose, it holds significance, for certain elements have been created within what you view to be your past and are created presently.

You view manifestations and creations linearly. You view that you create one thing within your present now, which becomes your past, and it is static; it is fixed. You do not view that you create elements within your future and that they are creating of your past. You do not view that you are creating now and it is creating of your past. You speculate that you are creating now and it shall be affecting of your future, but it is not creating your future. But they are all the same, and they are all creating each other NOW.

Within your past, a creation has been enacted of a mergence of essences, which you view to be a prophecy of your ‘second coming.’ Now we enter into another area of belief systems and another window for distortion. I am not discussing your belief systems of the ‘second coming’, for there is no ‘second coming.’ There was no first coming! But your prophecies are not entirely off the mark, for they are interpretations of known remembrances. They are remembrances of what you view to be future events, which are not future!

Let us move into the area of future, present, past. All is simultaneous. All is NOW. Therefore, what you view to be past is past/present, present/past, past/future, future/past. You may view your present as present/present, present/past, present/future. You may view your future as future/past, future/present, future/future. They all hold each other simultaneously.

I have expressed this particular discussion once only previous and that discussion holds no record, for our transcribers have ‘lost’ this particular discussion, so to speak. But it is not lost, for it repeats itself now and the information is offered once again, for all is simultaneous.

(Vic’s note: This ‘lost’ session was a pop-in that didn’t get taped.)

Within what you view to be past was created, as I have stated, a mergence of essences. You have designated the manifestation of one of these essences as those biblical characters that you identify as John your Baptist, Saul of Tarsus, which is Paul, and that manifestation which you term to be Jesus the carpenter. All three of these manifestations are manifestations of one essence. The reason that you move into the area of creating prophecies of a ‘second coming’ is that you have been offered visions, or interpretations of visualizations, which suggest a mergence of essences and a returning into physical focus [of] one of those three manifestations.

Now; your interpretation of this return is that the one manifestation that you designate as the Jesus shall be returning as the new Christ. In actuality, the manifestation which has been designated as the merging focus, to be creating of a fragmentation which is creating of manifestations of Rose, is that of the focus of Paul.

That particular focus of that essence does not return into physical focus, for no focus returns. As I have stated, you are not used parts. You are each new creations and hold your own integrity.

Therefore, the focus of Paul continues within its exploration of consciousness non-physically, but within essence has merged in conjunction with other essences with the essence of Rose. This provides what you may term to be a stimulus which creates a focus into this physical manifestation.

Therefore, one of these nine manifestations of Rose is also that designated second-coming focus, so to speak, although it is not in alignment with your belief systems, which align with the translations of past, which are your prophecies.

Now, within the area of simultaneous time this creation happens now, but it has also happened within your past. Therefore, the designation of this manifestation is a present/past manifestation. Another of these manifestations of Rose is a physically created manifestation presently now, one of the nine, which is a mergence of a focus future. This focus within another essence also has merged in conjunction with other focuses with the essence of Rose, and creates another manifestation physically within this present now. That designation is present/future. There are other manifestations of Rose presently that have merged with essence focuses to be creating of these manifestations which are merged presently. These would be designated as present/present.

Rose has chosen to be incorporating these actions, also purposefully, to be introducing to you the reality of simultaneous time, not merely the concept. Each of you may grasp what you THINK of as the concept of simultaneous time, but these manifestations, these nine small ones, shall be offering helpfulness within consciousness to be creating the understanding of simultaneous time IN REALITY with you.

JUDY: ... I have a question. This has to do with birds, and I guess the way I would phrase the question would be, I’ve had lots of birds that like to bang on my windows at various times in my life, and usually it’s been a robin, and the robin just keeps ... it hasn’t happened in a while, but it happened at one point about two years ago, and then it went away for a while, and when it came back, a robin began ... in a new home, a completely different place, a robin just every morning would bang on my window. And I found it really strange that this happened only to my window in the one house that I had lived in previously, and then a year later it happened again in a new home, and it continued every single morning to bang on my window.

And then other things with birds occurred. For example, a bird coming inside my apartment and banging on the inside out, and then coming home one day and my neighbor telling me that he had heard this big bang, and he walked outside to see what it was, and it was a falcon that had just went right into my window, and fell and died. That was the last episode with a bird, but I just couldn’t understand why birds kept coming into my life like that, and kept insistently banging on my windows.

ELIAS: Let me express to you that this be interesting imagery that you present this evening, for the imagery that is presented by the essence of Rose is that of birds. (Pause, grinning) Rose has offered the imagery of birds to many individuals. You may view this within yourself to be that which may be likened to your own wake-up call!

Let me also express to you that this is quite inventive imagery with yourself, in alignment with the essence family that you align with. And what is the color held by this bird?

JUDY: What is the color held by the bird? It’s a robin, so it’s orange.

ELIAS: Red, and you may be connecting yourself with this essence family, for this be the essence family that you align with within this particular focus, that of the Milumet, which has been offered to you as imagery that you may be connecting to.

Essences choose different manners in which they may be objectively connecting with individuals and attaining their attention. Rose offers the imagery of birds, and attains individuals’ attention with this type of imagery. This has been offered previously and continues to be offered by this particular essence in connection with different individuals, presenting many types of imagery of birds.

Now look to your imagery with birds, in banging outside and banging inside, to be offering you the imagery of noticing what is created in what you view to be outside of yourself, but to be noticing what shall be viewed inside of yourself.

The imagery of birds engaging death, or that which I may term to be disengagement, is merely imagery suggestive of movement from one area in consciousness to another.” (14) [session 298, July 16, 1998]

VICKI: “Just to run an impression by you, I had some interesting imagery a while back that had to do with some dead birds, and my initial impression was that one of the nine babies had croaked, and I’m just wondering now, is there an action of fragmentation going on with some of these babies?

ELIAS: You are correct in this impression. The children are continuing within physical focus and are not moving in the direction of disengagement. They continue to experience and enjoy in your terms fine healthiness, but this essence IS moving into the direction of fragmenting these focuses, these manifestations of these nine small ones. As I have stated, this essence of Rose is a Dream Walker, and although it has chosen partially to engage the action of moving into physical manifestation, it shall be moving into this area differently than other essences, in that each of these nine manifestations shall be fragmented, therefore returning, so to speak, the essence of Rose to its original state of not being physically manifest.

I have begun offering information in this area of Rose and simultaneous time which is pertaining to actions that Rose engages and also to these nine manifestations, and I have begun offering information in the area of fragmentation, which I shall be continuing subsequently. But although the awareness of these young Sumafi is open to many of these concepts, this particular action holds difficulty for individuals within physical focus and their assimilation of the information objectively. Therefore, we shall be moving slowly into the explanations in these areas.” [session 300, July 21, 1998]

JEN: “You have talked about the nine children. They’re all young, all small right now. I’m wondering if I know any of them.

ELIAS: Objectively, no, although there are subjective knowings of some of these small ones that you hold within you. There are many individuals that hold subjective knowings of these small ones; there are many individuals that hold objective knowings of these small ones. Those individuals that allow themselves more of a subjective knowing of these small ones shall be more recognizing of their influence than those individuals that hold more of an objective knowing of these small ones, for although individuals that hold the objective knowing may view these small ones as holding unusual qualities, they also continue to move in the direction of their established belief systems, which they attach to these small ones.

It is quite interesting within physical focus that little ones objectively are not always recognized as holding the qualities of energy that they hold by individuals that tend to them, so to speak. There have been infrequent situations throughout your history in which individuals have recognized the qualities expressed by some small ones, but this is not a common occurrence within your physical focus, for there are many belief systems attached to small individuals. Even those individuals that are recognized within physical focus while they are little ones are not entirely accepted as holding the knowings that they in actuality hold, for the belief systems move in the direction that the older adults hold more knowledge than these small ones.

Within the action of this shift, you shall be witnessing more and more expressions of little ones that shall be amazing to you, in their knowing of movements within consciousness and their knowing of more of their own remembrances automatically, for they have manifest within this time period with the knowing that they ARE moving in the action of this shift and shall be within physical focus within the time framework of its accomplishment. Therefore, they enter into this physical focus with the allowance of the remembrance partially already.” [session 308, August 21, 1998]

GEORGE: “The Christ entity – or the essence, as it’s called – as I understand it, is composed of three individuals: John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul. And as I understand it, they were of the Milumet family, and Milumet was my alignment before, and the shift of consciousness, with the nine expressions of Rose, is largely brought about by Borledim, as I understand it, and my family was Borledim before. I wonder, is there any connection here between me and this whole ... like the Christ entity and the ... in other words, do I have any connection or relationship, for example, with any of the nine expressions of Rose, or did I have any relationship with the members of the Christ entity?

ELIAS: In physical terms, no. But I shall express to you that all of this that you have offered to yourself, and that of your previous essence family AND alignment within this particular focus, have all served quite purposefully to be offering you a direction of information.

Now; in the movement of fragmentation and the association, so to speak, with this family of Tumold, the information that you have drawn yourself to previously is quite purposeful, for this offers you the opportunity to be examining the beliefs that individuals within physical focus hold, and also the draw that they create and experience to expressions in conjunction with those beliefs, and how this validates to them their expression of self.

Now; let us examine this situation, for all of this is quite purposeful in the action of the fragmentation which has occurred and that you have participated in.

For within essence, the essence that you have become has quite purposefully chosen to be fragmented and has chosen this family of Tumold to be in alignment with the intent of returning elements within this physical dimension to their natural state.

One of the creations that has been affected within this physical dimension which moves all of you away from your natural state is the belief system of duplicity. This belief system holds many aspects and is quite strongly expressed throughout your physical dimension.

Now; in this, you have created collectively a veil of separation, and you seek to be removing this veil in the examination of your belief systems and in the movement in this shift in consciousness.

Now; within physical focus in this particular dimension, you have created an officially accepted reality in which you look to examples of different expressions of consciousness or individuals that offer you a validation of self and of abilities, and therefore you collectively magnate to these examples, and in this expression, you move in the direction of want[ing] to be objectively or physically connected, in your terms, to these examples.

Now; I express to you, as I have expressed previously, all of you are interconnected. There is no separation. Therefore, in one respect, I may express to you that yes, you are connected to these essences and that you do hold interaction with the expressions or the manifestations of these essences, but objectively or physically, you do not. But this does not diminish your interaction or your interconnectedness with these essences, or the affectingness that you contribute to them or that they contribute to you.

Therefore, in altering the essence families within the fragmentation of your essence, you have allowed yourself to move into the intent of restoration of the natural state or order of being of essence within this physical dimension.

And in this, an element of that movement is to be recognizing that this direction of attention which is placed in elevating certain manifestations within your physical dimension and allowing yourself an acquisition of validation or acknowledgment through outside connection, in your terms, is merely a perpetuation of the action of duplicity, which moves contrary to the intent which you now participate within.” [session 504, November 19, 1999]

EDWARD: “... you had spoken about how there are like eight Jesuses or something right now that are born, or eight versions of him, or....


EDWARD: Okay, what were you saying? You know what I’m talking about, like when you....

ELIAS: I am aware of what you are expressing. No! This is a distortion of information.

There are nine manifestations of the essence of Rose. These are not deliverers. They are not expressions in the capacity or the focal point type as that which you identified as Jesus. They are nine manifestations in physical reality, as representatives of each of the nine essence families. They do not possess any abilities that YOU do not also possess!

They are merely manifest in this time framework to be lending energy to the shift in the association of energy as expressed from what you identify in gender of male to female, for one of the base elements or designs of this physical dimension is that of sexuality. Therefore, there is also an association of an expression, generalized, of energy within your design of your officially accepted reality. Throughout your history, it has been expressed in the design of male. In this shift in consciousness, it is shifting into the expression of female.

This is not a physical expression. It is an expression of energy in conjunction with your physical design of sexuality, which is a base element of this physical dimension, and you associate that sexuality in relation to gender in every aspect of your physical reality. Therefore, you also associate, in relation to your expressions of energy, certain qualities which are expressed which are ... gender, not physical manifestations. (15)

EDWARD: Right.

ELIAS: But these are the actions of this shift in consciousness.

EDWARD: Yeah, but that’s what I was leading up to. Are they here to help with this shift in consciousness? Because again, even the....

ELIAS: Loosely expressed, in your terms.

EDWARD: Because again, even the idea of the focus of Jesus or the focus of Buddha, we possess everything that they possessed also....

ELIAS: Correct, and they have been designated as focal points.

EDWARD: Right.

ELIAS: Figureheads, in a manner of speaking.

EDWARD: And then we heap attributes on them that are not necessarily there.

ELIAS: Correct.

EDWARD: There is no deliverer. There is no holy one ... well, except for yourself!

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA! Quite!” (Chuckling) [session 737, December 09, 2000]

GEORGE: “I note that none of the areas in which the nine – I’ll call them the Rose children, and you know whom I’m speaking of, of course – will operate in is within the Hispanic world. There are three Americans, and then the others are, one Australian, African, Chinese, Czechoslovakian, English, and Scottish, one of each. I’m wondering about that. The African child is named, I guess, Jesus, and I’m wondering, is this a Spanish name? Is he Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking? Can you tell me exactly where in Africa he is from? And then all of this comes down to the point of, I’m wondering why the Hispanic world is not included in the group.

ELIAS: Ah, but it is, and you have allowed yourself an impression which offers you information as to the recognition of that culture or expression through the manifestation of that particular individual.

GEORGE: Are you referring to Jesus?


GEORGE: And is he ... can you tell me where he is in Africa? (Pause)

ELIAS: Within this present time framework, the small one occupies a physical location ... that which you identify as Uganda. Now, I may express to you that this individual is manifest in relation to what you physically identify as an interracial family.

GEORGE: Okay. In other words, he belongs to several groups?

ELIAS: No; that he has manifest, in relation to the individuals known to him as his parents, in two different racial identifications. One of the parents is native to that area of Africa, and one of the parents is native to your identified country of Spain.

GEORGE: Oh, Spain. Oh, I see. So is he Spanish-speaking?

ELIAS: Partially.

GEORGE: Partially. And also ... what is the other part? English-speaking?

ELIAS: The child engages a slight activity in native language of a particular dialect of that physical location, but also incorporates English and Spanish much more in communication.

GEORGE: Ah, okay. Thank you very much. Okay, so my question about why the Hispanic world is not included, you would say that he is the Hispanic representation?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

GEORGE: But he’s not ... why isn’t there more Hispanic involvement? Why aren’t there people from, I don’t know, South America or Spain or the Hispanic areas of the world?

ELIAS: Involvement in what capacity?

GEORGE: In the shift. Well, I mean I know we’re all involved, but I guess I was just wondering, with the nine Rose children, they seem to have been ... well, I guess you would say they haven’t been left out, because of Jesus.

ELIAS: Correct.” [session 748, December 30, 2000]

DAVID: “... I want to just confirm that one of my major or one of my big intents – which is why I was born in New York City – is to present to myself diversity in communications, but most of all to learn to redirect my energy from the macho or physical aggression and insecurity and jealousy, to redirect that energy. I feel like that’s one of the big reasons for being in this now; that’s one of my major intents.

ELIAS: Correct, which moves quite in alignment with this shift in consciousness. For I may express to you, I have previously offered information concerning the essence of Rose and the nine manifestations, which are physically focused presently and fragmented into their own essences, as a representation of each of the nine essence families in relation to this shift in consciousness.

These individuals are all male; they are all small ones presently. None of these nine male small ones move in probabilities that shall create notoriety within their focuses, although, as always, each of them chooses their own direction and may or may not choose to alter that pool of probabilities. But within their chosen pools of probabilities and their present choices, they are not manifest in this time framework to be leaders or to be in the forefront of attention of your societies. Their choice is to be manifest specifically as a representation of energy of each of the nine essence families in the expression of an example in energy, in like manner to our little sapling story, in conjunction with the movement of this shift in consciousness, in shifting from the expression of male to female. (16)

This be the reason that all nine are male, that they may be an example of shifting energy from the male expression which has been expressed to this point throughout your history [by] the intellect – the rational – to the female, the intuitive, the inward.

Male expression throughout the incorporation of this physical dimension has been the outward expression of energy. This shift in consciousness shifts that energy to the female, the inward, the intuitive, the self. And this is also an aspect of what you have chosen in your individual focus to be exploring specifically, the recognition of this transformation, and also in that action recognizing that it is merely a difference, but it may not necessarily be associated with the definitions that your beliefs have expressed previously.

For you view the masculine energy, that which is projected outward, to be an expression of strength and solidity, foundation, construction. Now you explore the strength and the foundation of the female, the inward, the intuitive, the self, and the tremendous power that is generated by the self.

This is what shall allow you all new freedom without limitation, for your limitations are created and expressed in projecting your attention OUTWARD. For as you project your attention outward, you create expectations, and you also deny your choices. You allow outside expressions – other individuals, circumstances, situations, even objects – to dictate to you your choices, and therefore to be dictating to you what you shall or shall not create in your reality.

Therefore in turning your attention inward, shifting your perception to the generation of the female expression of energy, you direct and steer your own ship. YOU create all of your reality and dictate what you shall choose yourselves.

... You choose to incorporate this in your individual intent, therefore you concentrate your direction of movement in this expression in your exploration in this focus.

An intent is driven by desire, and the expression of the intent is the direction of exploration that the individual chooses to be following throughout the entirety of an individual focus.

... All of these nine small ones have been identified, and you may be inquiring of Michael [Mary], or you may be inquiring of Albert [Ben], and they may be offering your information concerning the identification of these nine small ones.

But I may also express to you, it is unnecessary to be concentrating your attention upon these nine manifestations, for they are not the ‘second coming.’ (David laughs) They are not your guides, and they are not your new messiahs.” [session 854, June 17, 2001]

BEN: “... I have become aware lately of an impulse to be objectively interactive with the baby Roses. Now, I’ve always been sort of interested in this nine manifestations of Rose thing, but lately it was just sort of this kind of thing where I’m thinking, ‘Oh, they’re all about six or seven years old now, and I would really like to hang out with one of them.’ I think that I could be a good influence on one of them. It even went so far as thinking about being interactive with one of their fathers, but that was an add-on! (Elias laughs)

I guess I was trying to figure out if there was some way that I could possibly be in a situation where I could be interactive with one of the Roses on a daily basis. So, of course, I started asking around about who knew one and where they were and whatever else. I’d like to know what’s behind that impulse. Because I know in some sense you’re going to tell me I’m already interactive with them...

ELIAS: Yes, but...

BEN: ...but what is this impulse about?

ELIAS: Yes, but this is not the point.

BEN: I don’t see why I shouldn’t just follow through with it, except I don’t exactly know how I would go about it.

ELIAS: You may, if you are so choosing. I may suggest to you that you examine your motivation.

BEN: Well, that’s what I’m trying to figure out. That’s why I thought you might be able to help me. Where did this come from? I mean, in some sense it’s like we just go back to projecting onto the other person, like my impulse for wanting to baby-sit some seven-year-old is really to baby-sit the seven-year-old inside of me.

ELIAS: If your motivation is curiosity in what you may offer to yourself in information in relation to these small ones’ energy expressions, I may suggest to you an encouragement to allow yourself that freedom. If your motivation is to be influencing of them, I shall suggest to you that you examine your motivation.

BEN: (Laughs) Actually, you’re right. To me, the curiosity is about them and what they would teach me. Yes, you’re absolutely right. You’re hitting it much more on the head, actually.

ELIAS: And why shall you deny yourself this experience?

BEN: Because my beliefs are that I don’t know who any of these people are. I know you’re going to tell me, ‘Oh, you just go look on the Game board. (17) You see one of them is in Edinburgh, you get on a plane, you go over there, and you just happen to run into one,’ or ‘If you really open yourself up, you’ll know exactly what their names are and their phone numbers are and whatever else.’ But I have these objective beliefs that make me think that it doesn’t work that way.

ELIAS: Very well, but you also incorporate information and within your beliefs the means to be interactive or to be presenting yourself to two of them.

BEN: I have had a discussion with both Michael and Shynla, and I guess there is still a possibility that with Shynla’s help I could become interactive with one of them. But apparently Olivia’s aware of another one – objectively aware of another one.

ELIAS: And...?

BEN: So that’s another possibility. I’m trying to work all those angles, yes, but so far I’m coming up with nothing.

ELIAS: Ah, but YOU create your reality, my friend.

BEN: (Laughs) Yes, thank you for reminding me!

ELIAS: Therefore, if you are not offering yourself what you view to be conclusive information, you are also offering yourself a communication that you continue to incorporate hesitancy in actually allowing yourself to freely express yourself and to engage one of these small ones.

BEN: Is one of them in Castaic now? (Pause)


BEN: There’s one in Virginia that I’m sort of objectively aware of, and one in Washington state.


BEN: And those are the two you are referring to.

ELIAS: Yes, which if you are so choosing and if you are allowing yourself, you may objectively encounter either of these small ones with relatively little challenge. It is merely a matter of offering yourself permission to generate what you want and express freely. This is a challenge, my friend (Ben laughs), and you have chosen a particular objective expression to illustrate to yourself...

BEN: That I am creating my reality.

ELIAS: ...the strength of the challenge. You do allow yourself to express what you want and...

BEN: To me, even just telling people about this impulse is already something, because when I talk about it people seem to find this to be ... they have their own perception of this particular impulse. So to me, even just telling people that this is what I want to do should already set up something, put the wheels in motion.

ELIAS: It is partially allowing yourself to express yourself, but you also continue to concern yourself with the perceptions of other individuals. Therefore, what you are generating is a process, which involves allowing yourself your own expression of freedom. (Pause)

BEN: I think part of it just has to do with the fact that I’m in this situation where I think I’m waiting for other people to give me information or permission or whatever else. It’s not like I could just get up and go do it myself.

ELIAS: Ah, very well. (Both laugh) And this may be another aspect to be examining.

BEN: Yeah, that’s when it gets tricky. (Elias laughs)

Well, just because I’m thinking about this now, there was another small one that I used to be interactive with, Roger’s nephew, Kaden. It was one of those situations where he seemed to know me. I really wasn’t that familiar with him, but he knew me right away. Was there some kind of relationship between the two of us, that he completely gravitated to me immediately?

ELIAS: Yes. This is a recognition of other shared focuses. Small ones allow themselves a clearer recognition of themselves and do not question the impressions and the familiarity of energy as do you as you incorporate greater age.

BEN: I think in that sense, as you say, all small ones are that way in particular, but then I think that a small baby Rose must be like that times ten.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. As I have expressed, this is not the point of these manifestations. These manifestations of these small ones have not been generated as some guiding force or that they incorporate a greater awareness than do other small ones manifesting in this time framework in this shift.

This has been expressed purposefully in an offering of energy in helpfulness of this essence of Rose in association with shifting the energy within your physical dimension from that of a male expression to the female expression of energy, and this is the reason that the manifestations are all generated in the gender of male.

BEN: Well, I guess I’ll have to see that for myself, won’t I?

ELIAS: Very well!” (Both laugh) [session 1091, May 25, 2002]

End Notes:

(1) Joseph Campbell, The Hero with a Thousand Faces, MJF Books, New York, NY, 1949, p. 382.

(2) Jane Roberts, The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events, Amber-Allen Publishing, San Rafael, California, 1995, session 817, p. 83.

(3) Roberts, Ibid., p. 84.

(4) Jane Roberts, The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2, Amber-Allen Publishing, San Rafael, California, 1996, session 733, p. 555.

(5) Campbell, Ibid., p. 391.

(6) Paul’s note: about Rena [Gerri] is a friend of Ron Churchman and Cathy McCallum, originally from Buellton, California, who now lives in Virginia.

(7) Paul’s note: about Alex being born in California...

(8) Paul’s note: Mary Ennis’ daughter, Elizabeth McGuire, gave birth to a baby boy, named Sean Patrick, on May 30, 1996. After several weeks, for personal reasons, Elizabeth put Sean up for adoption to a new home in Washington state. Both Mary and Elizabeth stay in touch with Sean’s foster parents.

(9) Paul’s note: a reference to the “straight little sapling” allegory that Elias often refers to when he discusses our need to trust, accept, take full responsibility for only ourselves.

Digests: find out more about the sapling story.

(10) Paul’s note: Elizabeth McGuire is Mary Ennis’ daughter.

(11) Paul’s note: I’m including information from the Seth Material, channeled by Jane Roberts from 1963 – 1984, in this note because so many Elias readers are also Seth readers and these two sources share interesting similarities.

Jane first published some of, what she termed, “Christ material” in The Seth Material (1970), Chapter 18, The God Concept – The Creation – The Three Christs. However, Seth only actually names John the Baptist and Jesus Christ saying that he would offer the third name at a later date.

In Seth Speaks, (1972), Chapter 21, The Meaning of Religion, session 586, Seth talks about the ‘Christ entity’ in terms of three physical focuses: John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and Paul or Saul of Tarsus. Seth also mentions that the twelve disciples were fragment personalities of the ‘Christ entity’ and the historical figure named “the teacher of righteousness” was a probable self. All this to say that Seth’s version of the ‘Christ entity’ phenomenon is multidimensional and multipersonal in nature.

Now, according to Elias, these three primary physical focuses – whom we know today as John, Jesus, and Paul – were also manifestations of a single essence. But in addtion, Elias has offered that this ‘Christ essence,’ so to speak, belongs to the Milumet essence family.

(Vic’s transcript note: Jene expressed irritation during the break with Elias’ refusal to answer [my earlier] question about essence naming [for the focus of Jesus Christ]. She also said that this is the first time she has felt irritation with Elias during a session. I am sharing this for the benefit of folks who don’t attend sessions because quite often, information delivered after a break is directly related to conversation during the break.

ELIAS: “Continuing: (To Jene) I shall offer, for your clarification and curiosity ...

JENE: Thank you.

ELIAS: ... essence family.

JENE: Okay. That’s cool.

ELIAS: For you are correct that we are focused upon the actions of essence families, and this holds significance. Therefore, I shall express the essence family. This particular essence in question, which was manifest within three physical manifestations, is of the family of Milumet.

As to a distortion, you are partially correct in that the manifestation within the intent of the family of Milumet was to be expressing of what you now term to be spirituality. In the actual expression, it was to be reminding you of your connections with essence. You are correct, in a sense, that this information has been distorted, although you have purposefully chosen the progression that you have created throughout your history, leading you within your progression of probabilities to this experience of your present shift.

Therefore, you may in one respect express that you have distorted the information offered of essence, but within another respect you have changed the information for your own experience. This essence family, within initiating of your religious time period, focused upon the intent of a remembrance of no separation of essence. This was translated symbolically, physically.” [session 141, December 22, 1996]

Later, Elias also provided the essence name for this ‘Christ essence’ during a later session:

VIVIEN: “The other thing I wanted to ask is the essence names of Mary and of Jesus. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name held by the focus of Mary, Sheen. Essence name held by the focus of Jesus, Telleth.

VIVIEN: Telleth. Okay, thank you.” [session 382, April 12, 1999]

According to Seth, it was Paul who, in creating the organization of the church that was left unsatisfied, in that he had not fulfilled his original intent. Both John and Jesus succeeded in fulfilling theirs’. So that unfulfilled intent forms the basis for Paul’s “return,” so to speak, to help make human kind more aware of their connection with All-That-Is, no longer requiring the direct mediation of priesthoods and calcified beauracracies to directly experience the Divine Within.

While Seth speaks of this so-called “return” in very singular terms, Elias expands and diverges at this point. According to Elias, that unfulfilled intent forms the basis for the focus of Paul’s mergence with the essence of Rose to remanifest as nine male children and lend energy to our shift.

Digests: find out more about the nine children of Rose.

Digests: find out more about mergence.

Finally, for those interested, Paul (Patel) offered the essence family alignments for the three primary focuses of the ‘Christ essence’ during an online chat, dated March 10, 1998:

PATEL: “Greetings this energy has been quite encompassing of you all tonight.

PAUL: Hi Patel!

TOM: Greetings Paul (Patel).

MJ: Hello Paul (Patel).

PAUL: Yes it has!

TOM: Yes, we have felt you.

PATEL: Certain questions have arisen that may well be answered by yourselves but I shall be available to you if you so choose.

PAUL: ... A question from Tyl [Joanne]; what are the family alignments of the three focuses of the Milumet essence?

PATEL: Apologizing for delay, Olivia [Ron] has issues within this exchange.

PATEL: Focus of Jesus, Vold.

PATEL: Focus of John, also Tumold.

PATEL: Focus of Paul, Tumold.

PAUL: Thank you very much!”

Digests: find out more about Paul (Patel).

Summary of the ‘Christ essence’
names and family connections
essence name: Telleth (source: Elias)
essence family belonging to: Milumet (source: Elias)
essence family alignment: John the Baptist/Tumold (source: Patel)
essence family alignment: Jesus Christ/Vold (source: Patel)
essence family alignment: Paul/Saul of Tarsus/Tumold (source: Patel)

Digests: find out more about essence families; belonging to/aligning with.

(12) Paul’s note: Elias plays a game with forum participants, in which they try and connect their impressions of various categories of objects, people, even concepts to the nine essence families. The goal is to learn how to recognize the working together of our intuitions and our intellect through our impressions.

In each public session, participants can offer their impressions and Elias usually responds with an answer of one point, acceptable, or less probable.

Digests: find out more about the game.

(13) Paul’s note: so it is within the energy of Paul’s personality (Saul of Tarsus) that the essence named Rose merged and manifested nine male children, who according to Elias have all been born as of May 30, 1996.

(14) Vic’s note: this was fascinating to me personally, as I had my own imagery with birds on June 15, 1998. Briefly, I found a large dead bird in the house, and several hours later, Ron found another one. The most unusual thing was that both birds were apparently untouched, which is very strange in our house! We have three cats that all consider birds to be one of their favorite toys! Both birds were whole. There wasn’t one feather out of place. Later, I connected this imagery to the fragmentation of the nine babies.

(15) Vic’s note: The insertion of ... indicates places where the tape cut out. I can’t read lips on a cassette tape!

(16) Bobbi’s note: this sentence was originally expressed as, “Their choice is to be manifest specifically as a representation of energy of each of the nine essence families in the expression of an example, in like manner to our little sapling story, in conjunction with the movement of this shift in consciousness in energy in shifting from the expression of male to female.”

(17) Bobbi/Paul’s note: for more info on game entries; the information that Ben is talking about is under the category of ‘Name and Location of Babies.’

Digests: find out more about the game.

Digests – see also: | altered states/projections of consciousness | aspects of essence; an overview | “before the beginning” | belief systems; an overview | choices/agreements | Creating Universal One And Whole/all of consciousness | dimension | desires/wants | dimensional veils | dispersed essence | Dream Walkers; an overview | duplicity | equations | essence families; an overview (Sumafi, Borledim, Milumet, Tumold) | essence families; belonging to/aligning with | essence tones | expression of essence | fear | focal points | focus of essence; an overview | fragmentation | the game | information | inner senses; an overview | intents | manifestation | mass events | mergence | new agenda | noticing self | objective/subjective awareness | officially accepted reality | perception | prophecy | religious era | remembrance of essence | Rose; an overview | separation | Seth, Jane Roberts | shift in consciousness | simultaneous time | Source Events | time frameworks | trauma of the shift in consciousness | waves of consciousness | widening awareness | you create your reality |

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