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the essence of Rose; an overview

Paul’s note: Elias introduced the essence of Rose to the small group in Castaic, CA in 1995-1996. He presented an “amazing story” around seven important themes over a period of months, all of which are based upon the Seth Material channeled by Jane Roberts (1929-1984) and Rob Butts (1919-2008):

  1. “Before the beginning,” a story of the origins of our universe (a creation myth).
  2. The Dream Walkers, nonphysical aspects of essence responsible for all consciousness evolution in our universe.
  3. Rose, also a Dream Walker, whose function in the creation story was to serve as a “progenitor essence” within the nine essence families of intention.
  4. The shift in consciousness, a mass widening of awareness, to be completed by 2075.
  5. Rose’s role in facilitating the shift in consciousness through nine male children that represent each of the nine essence families (a variation of the “messiah mythos”).
  6. Helping to create a future city.
  7. The need to learn to use the inner senses to better conceptualize, understand, and experience all the above!

So to make sense of what follows you may also wish to read:

Digests: “before the beginning.”

Digests: Dream Walkers; an overview.

Digests: the nine essence families; an overview.

Digests: the shift in consciousness.

Digests: the nine children of Rose.

Digests: the city.

Digests: the inner senses; an overview.

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “We have expressed that within the action of the Seers, all of the families, in what you term to be your thoughts of the beginning, were what we express to you as Dream Walkers. Their actions, while overall being quite similar, were also specialized according to the intent of the family, which was created, in your terms, at the initiation of each intent of each essence represented by these identifications presently given; just as Rose represents the initiation of the Seers, holding this intent, initiating this family of consciousness within intent. Do not be confused that Rose represents another family within your game (1), for the essence of Rose is Sumafi, as has been expressed.” [session 118, September 08, 1996]

ELIAS: “This essence of Rose was Seer ‘before the beginning.’ Many essences have fragmented from this essence of Rose. This essence expressed or expresses a unique desire and intent within the Sumafi. This essence is very initiating, quite in alignment with the family of Gramada, but is Sumafi. ‘Before the beginning,’ this essence of Rose was initiating of the Sumafi, which were Seer and which were not completely physically manifest. This essence of Rose has not been completely physically manifest until now.

We spoke of a parallel within mass events of the three essences which were initiating of your Christian movement, the three manifestations of one essence (2), and how these parallel with this essence of Rose in this mass event of your shift. The manifestation of this essence into physical focus is divided into nine expressions. In this, these nine expressions are nine different families. This is unusual. Normally speaking, in your terms, as you manifest and fragment you will most likely fragment a new essence which shall be of the same family as you, for it is part of your essence and therefore holds similar tone. This is not to say that this is the rule; but normally, fragmented essences shall be closely aligned with the fragmenting essence.

This one essence chooses to diversify itself into each of the essence families. In this, it also holds its focus of Sumafi underlying. Each of these manifestations do not belong to the Sumafi family, except one; but they hold all the quality of the Sumafi family, for this is the essence which is manifest. Each of these manifestations are not a fragment. They are all an expression of one essence. All of your expressions of essence are Sumafi. They may align with different families within different focuses, but your essence is Sumafi. Therefore, all of your focuses are Sumafi. Rose is Sumafi. All nine of these manifestations, which are focuses, are not Sumafi. This is what you may term as a unique event.

As you view your young ones within your present time period, you have already noticed that they move farther away from religious alignments. You already notice the subjectiveness of small ones. You may recognize the intuitiveness of your young people within this present now. These nine manifestations hold a great intuitive power. Each, as has been stated, will be representative of each family. In this, they shall display the qualities and characteristics of each of these families as they were, in your terms, ‘before the beginning.’ Their individual lives, to your way of thinking, shall be greatly affecting physically and also greatly within consciousness, for each of them is quite directed within their focus and their intent. Each of them holds an understanding of the intent of the individual family to which they belong. They shall be affecting of all that they encounter physically, in regard to the family that they represent. Even within very small children, as they are presently, they have already begun. Each of them has already made choices that are affecting of great numbers of individuals, although you may not see this.” [session 150, January 26, 1997]

LEXA: “Now, also while I was in the bird sanctuary, we were walking from this area where it dawned on me, just like these dreams that I had that I pulled from different sections and had this experience, there was a red bird in the pathway. What struck me very interestingly about this is most birds don’t stand in the middle of the pathway, first of all, when people are walking up. And this bird did not move; I mean it stood there. I asked my friend to hand me the binoculars and I looked at the bird’s eyes, and the eyes appeared larger than what I see in the birds that are around the house. I felt that that was... I don’t know, was that you?”

ELIAS: “No, but it was an exhibition of another essence.”

LEXA: “Who was that?”

ELIAS: “The essence of Rose.”

LEXA: “Oh, WAS it?”

ELIAS: “Yes.”

LEXA: “Well, now, all birds are the essence of Rose, though, aren’t they?”

ELIAS: “No, but the essence of Rose does choose quite frequently to incorporate imagery associated with birds, to be generating an interaction physically with individuals within your physical reality.”

LEXA: “I said, ‘Hello, how are you?’ (Laughs) Because it was not a bird, you know what I mean? It was a bird, but it was not a bird. So I did say hello.” (Elias laughs) [session 1363, June 06, 2003]

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “...We will speak briefly of the concept of your Seers, in preparation for ‘coming events!’ (Vic’s notes: Big sigh from the group) I will express to you, first, that I am instructing you to be exercising one of your inner senses, one in which most of you do not exercise readily ... and some exercise too readily! (Leaning towards and speaking directly to Tom, who is totally unaware that Elias is referring to him) Hello! (Trying to get Tom’s attention, who is staring at Ron. We all laugh)

TOM: Hi! I hear you. I was watching Ron. (He was ‘exercising!’)

ELIAS: This would be your inner sense that you would term empathic. You focus on what you term telepathic as a psychic sense, or inner sense, which you all, to a very limited degree, may define. Empathic is your ability to feel and experience other individuals and other essences. You may practice exercising this empathic sense, and no one will know! (Laughter) It does not require speaking. It does not require thinking. It only requires identifying yourself and your connections with other essences, feeling what they are experiencing. This may seem to be not very important, but you will find that my reasoning is quite valid, within your future.

It is coupled with another inner sense, quite necessary to connect with this sense of empathic, in order to be understanding of elements which will be presented. The other sense that you may practice is your inner sense of conceptualization, this being somewhat as your visualization. Within visualization, you see images. Within conceptualization, you are offered a concept and you become the concept; just as within our game I offered the exercise and challenge to you all, and to Lawrence [Vicki], to experience the vibrational connection to the categories within our game; this being the introduction to your conceptualization. (3)

There are times when it is not enough to be offered a concept, for you may think of the concept until you can think no more, and you will still not understand, for you are using a very small portion of your physically focused brain. You need incorporate more. You possess inner senses which serve you quite well, but they are also quite rusty! It is now time to be pulling them out, and dusting them off, and shining them, and placing them in working order.

Within conceptualization, you may choose any concept. It does not need to be one of Elias’ concepts. It may be anything. Focus upon the concept, and experience the concept. Do not think about the concept over and over, for this is not the point. I will ask you, ‘What were you thinking during your experience with [Vicki’s friend] Milus?! I will answer for you; nothing! You were experiencing. You were not evaluating. You were not analyzing. You were experiencing; therefore allowing yourselves information and understanding that you would not have come to without the experience. Therefore, within conceptualization, experience the concept. Become the concept.

Michael [Mary] will be acquiring, little does he know, (grinning) a new book. This book will be of philosophy. Many of these philosophies contained within this book he has studied previously, in depth. I will instruct him to be experiencing and conceptualizing the concepts. Within the area of Michael’s [Mary’s] focus, I will be instructing him in this way as a preparation. He presently is very close to a vibrational tone, which may incorporate an experience and expression outwardly to you. He will not understand or be prepared if he is not incorporating conceptualization; therefore the frightenedness.

You are correct. You have moved into something really big, much bigger than you realize! I will give you a slight idea; your known physical universe dwarfs in comparison! (Vic’s note: Wow!) You have asked, and now you shall receive. I will also express that there are some aspects that even I may not deliver to you, for they are wider than my focus, and your experience is approaching very close to incorporate a very, very small viewing. Your turning point, and Michael’s [Mary's] turning point, was the incorporation of my other focus. (Grinning widely)

Now, in preparation for this probability, which will materialize, it is only a question of when the vibrational qualities align, we will speak briefly of the Seers, for this is partially the reason for this initiation. In order to acquaint you better with the Seers, I must explain a slight background. I have offered you bits and pieces, which I will attempt to pull together a little more efficiently, creating a non-physically focused site to be offered.

At a point within the consciousness of the Universal One and Creating Whole, the energy was massive. It was contained, as you contain your energy to yourselves. Remember, I am speaking quite elementary and simply, only for a very simplified explanation. Just as you each contain an inner energy which radiates around you, which you view as an energy field, you could view this as containing the same type of ‘holding to its energy.’ At a moment within its consciousness, a choice was make to be detaching, partially. (Pause) This is very difficult. Within this detachment, there was an expression of allowing energy to be released, for purpose of expression. (Pause)

Now, visualize what you have viewed, in pictures, of an atom. An atom may, upon impact, or also without impact, explode; and from this one atom are myriads of other elements containing exactly the same encoded elements of the original; the original still existing within another dimension, but seemingly disappearing within the dimension that the new particles appear. (Pause) I am understanding that this is difficult, but it is necessary for a better understanding.

When the Universal One created the allowance of energy to be detached, the energies dispersed from it, but still connected. Within this action, each element of energy exploded, creating individual essences. Each expression or particle of energy was focused with intent, one being the intent of knowledge. This explosion into aspects of itself created the essences of Seers. The original element, or aspect, was ... (Looking directly at Vicki)

VICKI: Rose.

ELIAS: Correct; this being the beginning of the Seers.

I have expressed that, within physical focus, the Seers were manifest once, but then I have expressed that you are Seers, this seeming to be a contradiction. It is not; for the totality of the Seers was manifest once. The aspects of the Seers continue, and have been created into their own essences, incorporating their own choices, and probabilities, and memory, and knowing, but also containing the aspect of the Seer. You all incorporate aspects of yourselves, and they all incorporate aspects of themselves, and on and on, and never-ending; and this is all individual, but all incorporated as part of the whole. You, as incorporating aspects, and being the aspects of the Seers, are Seers; for you possess all that they possess. (Pause)

This is the area which is needing of conceptualization! (Soft laughter) This concept is beyond what you will understand, within physical focus, without conceptualization. You do possess the ability to know. You must learn to incorporate a different method of knowing, which is not an intellectual knowing. (Pause) Now that you are all quite quiet, I will initiate a break. This way, you may breathe again! (Laughter)

VICKI: ...Well, why is Rose physically focusing?

ELIAS: (Smiling) For she has things to initiate and accomplish that are connected with your shift; and being what she, or it, is, she is viewing it necessary to be preparing the Seers for your new city (4), for inhabitation; for to this point, the reality has been one manifestation of Seers. You are incorporating the construction of the new city, to which they will be manifest again. Therefore, preparation is necessary for future, within physical focus. She is not the Messiah! (Laughing) This is not that second coming!

TOM: Speaking of second coming, will we see the second coming in this physical focus? (Elias starts laughing, and can’t stop)

ELIAS: (Still cracking up) Excuse, James [Tom]. There is no second coming in the terms that you are viewing. There will be a manifestation, which will be remanifested of an incorporation of the three into one, which will be connected with your shift, but not in a religious focus.” [session 54, November 12, 1995]

CATHY: Would you give us more information on dispersed essences?

ELIAS: (Grinning) I have been waiting! It is difficult to explain this concept, only for the reason that you may incorporate misunderstanding very easily; for within this interpretation, I am quite limited in expressing to you the difference of these essences. I will ask you to be attempting to conceptualize the idea of essence.

Essence incorporates energy. It incorporates, usually, an energy field; energy fields being different than only energy, for energy fields are directed energy. You, within physical focus, view energy fields as containment; therefore you would equate an essence as being contained by an energy field. Although it is not contained, it does possess energy fields.

Dispersed essences are energy, but do not incorporate energy fields. Therefore, the difference would be likened to a bubble; and the air within the bubble as being one essence, and air with no bubble as being a dispersed essence; both containing the same air, both incorporating the same energy; one incorporating energy fields, one not.

Within the manifestation of essences which are dispersed, they incorporate aspects differently within other focuses. They allow themselves the ability to be connecting with aspects outside, so to speak, of their own essence; as in the same manner that essences incorporate their facets. Therefore, they may be directly involved with aspects, as other essences are indirectly involved with aspects; (pause) Rose being dispersed. (Another pause)

CATHY: Well, I’ll have to read that over a few times to digest that!

VICKI: Is a dispersed essence an experience that is normally chosen, at one point or another, by most essences?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is not viewed as what you would term better or worse, or more advantageous or not. It is only different. Just as you incorporate a thought-focus, and another chooses an emotional-focus, or another chooses a political-focus, some choose to be dispersed. Others do not. It is only a choice for experience. This is not to say that you do not experience equally, for you do. You only experience differently.” [session 64, January 03, 1996]

ELIAS: “I shall offer a small amount of information concerning Rose, for this particular essence may be incorporating much confusion to you, and to others to which you interact with. As this essence is intricately focused with the accomplishment of your shift, it is helpful that you understand these manifestations. They are not ‘set apart’ from you. They are your expressions.

Within consciousness, within other Regional Areas, within an understanding of the action of your shift, collectively you have agreed upon the manifestations of Rose. Within consciousness, this action is the same as that of the pyramid or the twins. Collectively, not only you, but entirely within the focus of this particular planet, which encompasses all of its dimensions, all of its time frames, and all of its focuses, an agreement has been made. In this, the expression, through agreement, has manifest through the essence of Rose. This is a cooperative, collective action. Just as I have expressed to you that The Creating Universal One And Whole is an action, so also is this. Within the movement of consciousness, it has collected together with expressed intent to manifest within what you have agreed to be the most efficient manifestation; therefore dividing into nine individual focuses, within the same time period and dimension, to be affecting of your shift.

You are all, within physical focus, individuals. As I have expressed previously, you are each individual and different. No two are the same. No two express the same; but within other areas of consciousness, ‘outside,’ as you would view this, of physical focus, you are one; holding still your individual vibrational quality and personality, but incorporated all as one. Within essence, figuratively speaking now, you may view a focus individually being orbited by other aspects of each individual focus. These aspects are what you would view to be latent elements or qualities of the individual focus; you. As you travel through your sojourn of your focus, you draw from these orbiting elements, which are what you might perceive as alternate selves. These interact with you continuously, within consciousness. Within physical objective expression, they, at times, exchange places with you. They hold your vibrational tone quality. Therefore, there is an inter-exchange that may be accomplished. In this same manner, figuratively speaking, all consciousness orbits a source as elements of the source. In this, accomplishments within mass expression are not only agreed upon, but acted upon through consciousness, within the all of consciousness, which may manifest singularly, to your perception.

There is no ‘one entity’ of Rose. There is no one entity of William [Gail], or Olivia [Ron], or Shynla [Cathy], or Lanyah [Julie], or Yarr [Jim], or Lawrence [Vicki], or any individual focus. There are essences, which are defined by personality and vibrational tone quality. These are not separate orange sections! They are elements, not ‘parts,’ of the whole; to which, in the same manner that your physical body expresses any action, all elements of this body move within a cooperation of action. All cells are affected. Each blink of your eye is a cooperation of every cell within your physical expression, and each cell, each molecule, is aware and incorporated within the action. In this, in the same manner, each expression within your physical focus is a cooperative action of all, or the one, expressed into your physical perception.” [session 104, July 14, 1996]

NORM: “In the shift, will our bodies and the chemistry of our bodies change at all? As for example, evidently Christ could not take only one body, but took three bodies because of the power that he held. Is that going to be the case? Are we going to change chemistry?

ELIAS: This action of which you speak, you are correct, but this is not relevant to your shift. This action has been repeated within the essence of Rose, which has created nine physical manifestations presently upon your planet, which is relative to your shift. This also, as we move into discussion of Borledim, shall be discussed, for this action is significant.

As to changing within your physical manifestation or body, no. You shall continue within your manifestation of physical body. You have created, within cooperation and agreement, a highly efficient body. Therefore, it is unnecessary to be altering of this. This is not to say that within what you view to be future you may choose to alter physical form once again, although this is a probability, and also is occurring presently! (Grinning at Norm) Do not misunderstand. Your shift will not be producing angelic bodies and all-knowing psyches!” [session 138, December 08, 1996]

CATHY: “I have a little dream question, since you’re here. I was wondering, in my dream where Drew took his glasses off and handed them to me, when I looked through his glasses I saw two of everything. The only thing I can think of is that when I did the mirror exercise I saw two of everything, and if I remember correctly that had something to do with my dispersed essence?

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: Does that perhaps mean that Drew has some kind of dispersed essence or something?

ELIAS: No. This is your language to you, be remembering. This would be a reminder of you and your connectedness and your dispersement, of which extends to this individual also.

CATHY: You mean the remembrance part extends to this individual?

ELIAS: The dispersement.

CATHY: I’m confused now!

ELIAS: Within the focus of your essence, you choose the action of dispersement which allows you a mergence with other essences, as projecting aspects of your essence to other essences; in like manner to Rose, another dispersed essence.” [session 161, March 31, 1997]

JO: “...My Ilda tile, bringing the unknown to the known via Sumari and Vold (5), I would like to know if you would like to offer if this action is what I’m calling ‘Robots,’ and to validate if David is the Vold element in that?

ELIAS: Within your creative endeavor?

JO: Yes.

ELIAS: Correct.

JO: This involves an accomplishing for the Rose, depicting myths in new ways, I believe, which is why I’m getting the back-of-the-head sensation, particularly when I’m doing my bible studies?

ELIAS: This is an opening to consciousness, an allowance to be connecting with subjectively known elements and an allowance of the bleed-through into objective awareness. Many individuals experience actual physical sensations in the action of opening neurological pathways physically that also enable more efficiently the action of bleed-through into objective awareness.

JO: Is this a connection with the Rose essence?

ELIAS: Not necessarily with the essence of Rose, but with the action of the essence of Rose.

JO: Could you help me understand the feelings and the mental images that I seem to be ... well first, could you confirm that it was a Rose presence in the room on Sunday night?

ELIAS: Correct.

JO: Could you help me understand my feelings and imagery around that? I know that a lot of my personal growth has to do with this Rose connection.

ELIAS: Correct.

JO: If you could help me understand a little bit more what I’m going through, I would appreciate that.

ELIAS: Within your focus, and you continue presently, you have blocked much of your intent or your connection with your intent in alignment with this family. Therefore, you create issues within this situation that you have not quite yet addressed to. In this, you draw yourself to this forum and allow an interaction and identification of energy of this essence of Rose. This is being purposefully executed, that it bring to your attention your need to be addressing to your alignment with this family; although within core belief systems, this you view to be painful. Therefore, you focus your attention in other areas. You focus your attention upon the essence family that you belong to and express your interest in this area, therefore distracting yourself from the connection and the intent that you hold within this particular focus and its issues connected with the Borledim family.

JO: I sense that my allergies have something to do with this, that my issues have to do with allowing my environment to nurture me, especially even in the allergy. And I was also wondering if there’s a multidimensional focus issue involved with that?

ELIAS: Partially. All of your focuses are influencing of all of your other focuses, and this focus also; but look to your word, which is a key word in these issues, of nurturing, for this a great element of your denial of your alignment with this family within this focus. You find within this focus that you may be naturally nurturing to other individuals, but do not allow the reverse; this being an area that you hold this block within, within your core belief systems, which creates issues, which also creates physical manifestations, for your physical body is quite obliging to be holding energy for you until you are ready to address to these situations, and you shall continue to manifest as you are not addressing to these issues. This also is no accident that you draw yourselves to this forum presently within this present now, for this be the action that many of you are engaging presently; addressing to core belief systems, base issues, and attempting to move through these and therefore allow yourselves the opportunity and the ability to be accepting. This shall be accelerating. Therefore, you may be strapping yourself for the ride!” (Grinning, and we all laugh) [session 224, October 01, 1997]

JIM: “Okay. You mentioned in one of the sessions that the essence of Jesus, in the focus of Paul or Saul of Tarsus, has merged with Rose – I’m not sure who Rose is – but in nine physical focuses currently. You also mentioned that this essence would be instrumental in altering the reality of our religious element, in closing out our religious era. But then you also say ... maybe I’ve read this wrong, but you also say something about ‘initiating a stronger alignment with religious belief systems throughout the next centuries.’ What am I not understanding here?

ELIAS: I express to you that within your ACCEPTANCE of belief systems, in a manner of speaking you shall in some elements be aligning with the religious belief systems in recognizing that they ARE belief systems and that they do not hold or bind you, but recognizing that many of these belief systems stem from truths within your dimension.

JIM: So that’s what the ‘stronger alignment with religious belief systems’ means, that you recognize the truths behind that particular religious belief system and aligning with those truths?

ELIAS: Correct; which these are all the truths of essence and consciousness that you have merely labeled differently and developed belief systems around. Your concepts within your religious elements are of gods and of heavens. These are you and consciousness. You are the god. The heavens is merely a label for all of consciousness. You have built belief systems upon these concepts and created new ideas. Now, god is an element removed from you; a heavenly being more powerful than yourself. The heavens are a ‘place.’ Hell is a place that you may be IN. In actuality, these are merely words; labels that you have placed within your belief systems upon the concepts of essence, of all of consciousness, and of fear.

But within your shift, as you widen your awareness you also move into more of an awareness of essence and consciousness and a wider awareness of your reality. In this, you shall align with these elements that have been labeled within your religious era and you shall be accepting of the belief systems that surround them. In this, in accepting a belief system, it becomes transparent. It no longer clouds your vision or limits you, for you may view through the belief system.

JIM: Jesus said one time, ‘The kingdom of God is within.’ Was the focus of Jesus somehow more connected with essence than we are?


JIM: No?

ELIAS: The focus allowed more of subjective awareness and therefore held more of an objective awareness than many individuals, but no greater of an ability. It was merely a choice within the value fulfillment of that individual and its intent. You hold the same ability.” [session 254, January 02, 1998]

JO: “I have a question about what you were just talking about. There was some imagery that came up that had to do with biblical imagery that had to do with Rose imagery, and I’m wondering if this is another example of what you described earlier about ...

ELIAS: Many individuals within this time period are connecting with imagery of Rose. Some individuals are connecting with this imagery in physical aspects with the plant or the flower that you term to be rose, and they may be interpreting this as objective imagery in awareness of the movement of this shift.

At times, when there are ‘surge movements,’ so to speak, individuals shall be presenting themselves with more objective imagery of Rose, for this is the reminder objectively to you of this action of the shift. Therefore, at times you may view yourselves to be paying little attention to any imagery in connection with Rose, and then you may view that you involve yourself within a time framework of presenting yourselves with imagery continuously of Rose, and this would be an indication to you that there is an energy surge occurring in conjunction with this shift.

JO: Thank you. With regard to biblical prophecy and Rose imagery, is this an example of a myth that is formed that is of the more accurate variety, as information from Regional Area 3?

ELIAS: This also be my meaning, that many prophecies shall be surfacing, so to speak, presently and within your near future time frameworks from all different areas. Different mythologies, different philosophies, and also your religions shall all be surfacing within their prophecies, and this may be confusing to you if you are allowing yourselves to move into the direction of correlating all of these prophecies too closely with your shift in consciousness. There are some aspects of these prophecies or myths that are in correlation with this shift in consciousness, but the most overt prophecies are not. These have been selected, so to speak – tapped into by individuals within many different time frameworks within this particular dimension – and interpreted in conjunction with the mythology or the religion or the philosophy and made to fit. Therefore, they appear to you as plausible and you may be accepting of these, therefore lending energy to these, and in that lending energy to the potentiality of creating the probability of their actualization.

This is the manner that your fulfilled prophecies occur. There is enough energy lent to that which has been projected, and in that the energy has created the potentiality for creating a probability, and as more energy is lent in that direction, it becomes no longer a potentiality but an actual probability, and as more energy is lent, it then becomes an actualization within your dimension.

As I have stated, you create the probabilities within the moment, not before you. Therefore, the prophecies merely create the potentiality for the probability and its creation, but I wish you to understand that looking to other time frameworks and elements which have been set forth within the dawn of your Christianity, these may be quite distorting and confusing to you. Therefore, I express to you to be watchful as to HOW you are lending your energy.” [session 281, May 17, 1998]

MALE: “Basically, I was interested (inaudible) in the ‘second coming’ of Christ. I’ve been receiving a lot of information that’s kind of fallen into my hands, and so I want somebody to take it a little further. I don’t know exactly where I should go with it.

ELIAS: At our next meeting we shall be discussing the manifestation of Rose, which has incarnated, so to speak, into nine manifestations. Within your game there exists a category of these infants, their names and locations, which have been accessed and entered into your game. These are the nine manifestations of the essence of Rose, and this choice for manifestation is directly related to this shift in consciousness.

All of these small ones have been manifest within this reality within less than two years of each other. They are all male, and each manifestation is representative of one particular essence family. Each is aligned with and belonging to one particular essence family, being the representative of these families and of the Dream Walkers, and shall hold significance in this within the action of this shift.

This is also directly related to what you think of as your prophecies of biblical origins of what you term to be ‘the second coming,’ although that also is a distortion in how it has been offered in information previously, and its predictions also. The actual manifestation and mergence of essences in this action is different from that which has been presented to you biblically. Those are interpretations filtered through religious belief systems and then offered objectively to the masses.

In this, I shall be offering information of these nine manifestations in our next meeting, for as you are aware, there is a great acceleration within energy of this shift presently. You may all be experiencing affects of the acceleration of this shift.

Many individuals experience much conflict or the beginnings of trauma. Some individuals are experiencing great elation. Some individuals experience an overwhelming sense of anticipation or a knowing that there is some element undefined occurring within consciousness presently. These are all correct perceptions, for the energy is accelerating in the action of this shift, in movement toward its accomplishments.

As I have stated, objectively within your time frame you hold little time left, so to speak, to be completely accomplishing of this shift in consciousness. There is much to accomplish and much to alter. The entirety of your reality shall be altered! In this, you need be accelerating quite quickly, (grinning, and laughter) for the entirety of the accomplishment of this shift in consciousness, as I have stated previously, shall be within the third quarter of your next century. This leaves you not much time to be altering globally of all of your realities! But as always, I hold GREAT confidence that you shall be accomplishing QUITE efficiently and immaculately, as always!

Be anticipating information of Rose at our next meeting, for there is great movement occurring within these nine manifestations. They continue to be very small, for in your terms they hold little years, the oldest being not more than three, but already they are affecting within consciousness, and also objectively.

MALE: Are you saying that all nine are the same age, or did you say that there’s two years between them?

ELIAS: They are within the same age group, so to speak; the youngest being of two years, the oldest being of not more than three.

MALE: And they all are in the same location?

ELIAS: No. As you view within your game board, you may recognize that they occupy different locations throughout your globe. There are several, though, that are located within this particular country."[session 287, June 18, 1998]

JEN: “I want to ask a question for my friend Judy, who has found that there’s been many birds in her life; specifically, birds that come in and seem to be giving a message. There was one robin in particular that kept flying into her door repeatedly, day after day after day.

ELIAS: As I have expressed at our last meeting, at our next forum of our young Sumafis I shall be offering information of Rose in connection with this shift. Many individuals may be experiencing imagery which is a projection within energy of Rose, and in this, one of the favored imagery that Rose is projecting of is connected with birds. Therefore, this is an offering of energy in the direction of an acknowledgment of this shift in consciousness and the importance of it and the strength and intensity of its movement.” [session 288, June 20, 1998]

ELIAS: “This one essence, which has been a Dream Walker and that we speak of now, is designated with the translation of tone as Rose. This is not an identification of gender, for within essence there is no gender. It is merely an identification, within language, of a tone. This essence of Rose has chosen within this time framework to become physically manifest. This in itself may be termed to be a revolutionary action, for as I have stated, the Dream Walkers have chosen not to be physically manifest entirely. Within this present now, this essence of Rose is physically manifest within nine physical manifestations upon your planet. Each of these manifestations, as I have expressed previously, holds the gender of male. This also is a purposeful action.

You move into this shift in consciousness and you are altering your reality in a new direction. You have identified your reality within this dimension, to this point in your time framework, as male. You identify everything within your physical dimension in the area of gender, for this is an element of this particular dimension. You have created this dimension for the experience of gender and emotion. Therefore, you separate all of your elements within this particular physical dimension into areas of emotion and gender.

You even separate time frameworks into gender orientation. You separate thought processes into gender orientation. You divide your physical bodies into gender orientations. You identify left/male, right/female. You identify certain elements of thought as being male-oriented and certain elements of thought as being female-oriented. You identify thought as male and emotion as female. Your time framework has moved in the direction, to this point in your identification, as male. The orientation is male and the emphasis has been male, thought-focused and rational, which are also identifications of male. You move now into the action of this shift in consciousness, which you shall identify as female: the emotion, the intuition. Your eastern philosophies shall also mirror this, as they designate that you now move into a time framework of the female.

This is not to say that you are separating and that your female genders shall be ruling your planet! It is merely an identification of the gender in time framework, and as I have stated, you identify all of your elements within this dimension in the area of gender.

The essence of Rose has manifest purposefully as all males. This action is to be helpful within the action of this shift, and also to be providing an example, as we have stated within our analogy of the little saplings. The essence of Rose manifests as males, and as these males continue through their focuses they shall be displaying qualities that shall more be aligned with those qualities that you identify as female, but shall hold the orientation sexually as male. They shall continue through their focuses being identified and recognized the same as yourselves as male, but shall hold the ability of accessing intuition and emotion in the manner that you assign naturally to females. This shall offer examples of the lack of separation within all expressions within physical focus.

It is unnecessary for you to be separating any longer so intensely. You move into the area of more of an awareness, an expanded awareness, and more of a knowing and a remembrance of essence. Therefore, you also drop many of the veils that you hold within physical focus that provide you not only with your singularity, but with your divisions and your separations. In dropping the veils of your separations, you offer yourselves more freedom and more of an ability to access your own creativity.

These manifestations of Rose are now quite small little individuals. They are – all nine – little ones, all in what you may term to be three years or less. Already they begin to display abilities and awarenesses that are uncommon to your physical focus. Their intuitive senses are very highly developed and they already are expressive of this intuitive sense, which is already being recognized, not only by those individuals that are designated as their parents, but also by all individuals that physically encounter them presently. They are already beginning to be affecting within consciousness.

We move into the area of discussing simultaneous time also, for this is quite relative to Rose. It is relative and relevant to all things within your physical focus, but within this discussion of Rose, it holds significance, for certain elements have been created within what you view to be your past and are created presently.

You view manifestations and creations linearly. You view that you create one thing within your present now, which becomes your past, and it is static; it is fixed. You do not view that you create elements within your future and that they are creating of your past. You do not view that you are creating now and it is creating of your past. You speculate that you are creating now and it shall be affecting of your future, but it is not creating your future. But they are all the same, and they are all creating each other NOW.

Within your past, a creation has been enacted of a mergence of essences, which you view to be a prophecy of your ‘second coming.’ Now we enter into another area of belief systems and another window for distortion. I am not discussing your belief systems of the ‘second coming’, for there is no ‘second coming.’ There was no first coming! But your prophecies are not entirely off the mark, for they are interpretations of known remembrances. They are remembrances of what you view to be future events, which are not future!

Let us move into the area of future, present, past. All is simultaneous. All is NOW. Therefore, what you view to be past is past/present, present/past, past/future, future/past. You may view your present as present/present, present/past, present/future. You may view your future as future/past, future/present, future/future. They all hold each other simultaneously.

I have expressed this particular discussion once only previous and that discussion holds no record, for our transcribers have ‘lost’ this particular discussion, so to speak. But it is not lost, for it repeats itself now and the information is offered once again, for all is simultaneous.

(Vic’s note: This ‘lost’ session was a pop-in that didn’t get taped.)

Within what you view to be past was created, as I have stated, a mergence of essences. You have designated the manifestation of one of these essences as those biblical characters that you identify as John your Baptist, Saul of Tarsus, which is Paul, and that manifestation which you term to be Jesus the carpenter. All three of these manifestations are manifestations of one essence. The reason that you move into the area of creating prophecies of a ‘second coming’ is that you have been offered visions, or interpretations of visualizations, which suggest a mergence of essences and a returning into physical focus [of] one of those three manifestations.

Now; your interpretation of this return is that the one manifestation that you designate as the Jesus shall be returning as the new Christ. In actuality, the manifestation which has been designated as the merging focus, to be creating of a fragmentation which is creating of manifestations of Rose, is that of the focus of Paul.

That particular focus of that essence does not return into physical focus, for no focus returns. As I have stated, you are not used parts. You are each new creations and hold your own integrity.

Therefore, the focus of Paul continues within its exploration of consciousness non-physically, but within essence has merged in conjunction with other essences with the essence of Rose. This provides what you may term to be a stimulus which creates a focus into this physical manifestation.

Therefore, one of these nine manifestations of Rose is also that designated second-coming focus, so to speak, although it is not in alignment with your belief systems, which align with the translations of past, which are your prophecies.

Now, within the area of simultaneous time this creation happens now, but it has also happened within your past. Therefore, the designation of this manifestation is a present/past manifestation. Another of these manifestations of Rose is a physically created manifestation presently now, one of the nine, which is a mergence of a focus future. This focus within another essence also has merged in conjunction with other focuses with the essence of Rose, and creates another manifestation physically within this present now. That designation is present/future. There are other manifestations of Rose presently that have merged with essence focuses to be creating of these manifestations which are merged presently. These would be designated as present/present.

Rose has chosen to be incorporating these actions, also purposefully, to be introducing to you the reality of simultaneous time, not merely the concept. Each of you may grasp what you THINK of as the concept of simultaneous time, but these manifestations, these nine small ones, shall be offering helpfulness within consciousness to be creating the understanding of simultaneous time IN REALITY with you.

JUDY: ... I have a question. This has to do with birds, and I guess the way I would phrase the question would be, I’ve had lots of birds that like to bang on my windows at various times in my life, and usually it’s been a robin, and the robin just keeps ... it hasn’t happened in a while, but it happened at one point about two years ago, and then it went away for a while, and when it came back, a robin began ... in a new home, a completely different place, a robin just every morning would bang on my window. And I found it really strange that this happened only to my window in the one house that I had lived in previously, and then a year later it happened again in a new home, and it continued every single morning to bang on my window.

And then other things with birds occurred. For example, a bird coming inside my apartment and banging on the inside out, and then coming home one day and my neighbor telling me that he had heard this big bang, and he walked outside to see what it was, and it was a falcon that had just went right into my window, and fell and died. That was the last episode with a bird, but I just couldn’t understand why birds kept coming into my life like that, and kept insistently banging on my windows.

ELIAS: Let me express to you that this be interesting imagery that you present this evening, for the imagery that is presented by the essence of Rose is that of birds. (Pause, grinning) Rose has offered the imagery of birds to many individuals. You may view this within yourself to be that which may be likened to your own wake-up call!

Let me also express to you that this is quite inventive imagery with yourself, in alignment with the essence family that you align with. And what is the color held by this bird?

JUDY: What is the color held by the bird? It’s a robin, so it’s orange.

ELIAS: Red, and you may be connecting yourself with this essence family, for this be the essence family that you align with within this particular focus, that of the Milumet, which has been offered to you as imagery that you may be connecting to.

Essences choose different manners in which they may be objectively connecting with individuals and attaining their attention. Rose offers the imagery of birds, and attains individuals’ attention with this type of imagery. This has been offered previously and continues to be offered by this particular essence in connection with different individuals, presenting many types of imagery of birds.

Now look to your imagery with birds, in banging outside and banging inside, to be offering you the imagery of noticing what is created in what you view to be outside of yourself, but to be noticing what shall be viewed inside of yourself.

The imagery of birds engaging death, or that which I may term to be disengagement, is merely imagery suggestive of movement from one area in consciousness to another.” (6) [session 298, July 16, 1998]

VICKI: “Just to run an impression by you, I had some interesting imagery a while back that had to do with some dead birds, and my initial impression was that one of the nine babies had croaked, and I’m just wondering now, is there an action of fragmentation going on with some of these babies?

ELIAS: You are correct in this impression. The children are continuing within physical focus and are not moving in the direction of disengagement. They continue to experience and enjoy in your terms fine healthiness, but this essence IS moving into the direction of fragmenting these focuses, these manifestations of these nine small ones. As I have stated, this essence of Rose is a Dream Walker, and although it has chosen partially to engage the action of moving into physical manifestation, it shall be moving into this area differently than other essences, in that each of these nine manifestations shall be fragmented, therefore returning, so to speak, the essence of Rose to its original state of not being physically manifest.

I have begun offering information in this area of Rose and simultaneous time which is pertaining to actions that Rose engages and also to these nine manifestations, and I have begun offering information in the area of fragmentation, which I shall be continuing subsequently. But although the awareness of these young Sumafi is open to many of these concepts, this particular action holds difficulty for individuals within physical focus and their assimilation of the information objectively. Therefore, we shall be moving slowly into the explanations in these areas.” [session 300, July 21, 1998]

RODNEY: “Years ago I discovered that in my random raging of emotional daydreams, I have the power to destroy automobiles. They seem to just malfunction spontaneously (Elias chuckles) and get created into large sinkers – I call them anchors – never to be driven again. I was in one of these tirades one day, and I’d been making strong efforts to be aware of NOT allowing myself to get into them, when one day a large hawk, a red-tailed hawk – they have very substantial wingspreads – swooped down over my car – I was only going about twenty-five miles an hour – swooped down over my car from the back and flew over the front of my hood, about a foot off the hood, straight down the road in front of me. This was a remarkable event!

I was immediately startled into a total awareness of what I doing, why I was doing it, what it was doing to me, etcetera, etcetera, and I was extremely thankful that this message of this eagle was there to show me. It was a mirror, saying, ‘Look, this is what you’re doing.’

ELIAS: Quite. And this also has been a gift.

RODNEY: This is a guide, this eagle?

ELIAS: This is a manifestation of a creation of a gift from the essence of Rose.

RODNEY: Of Rose.

ELIAS: Correct. The essence of Rose moves very many times and quite consistently into manifesting gifts for noticing in the form of birds, and in each encounter of actual physical birds that Rose offers to individuals within physical focus, they hold a profound experience in noticing of some element of their creation and their reality within physical focus. Rose is quite efficient at manipulating the energy consciousness of birds to be interactive with individuals.” [session 303, August 01, 1998]

MARGOT: “I talked with you the last time about the element of the name of Rose being one of Giselle’s [Margot’s essence name] focus indicators. I’d like to ask about two more: one is the eighteen-year-old daughter of close friends, and her name is Sara Rose, and a granddaughter, a very young granddaughter by the name of Jamie Rose. Can you tell me about that?

ELIAS: I shall express to you that this name of Rose is now and shall be becoming, within your language and your expressions of naming of individuals within physical focus, more and more common.

As you may view through your history within different societies, the naming of individuals moves in what you may term to be cycles. Therefore, you may view at any given particular time framework a commonness of certain names. You attribute this to likes and dislikes, and in that you explore no further the significance of the action that you are engaging in this commonality.

As this shift in consciousness accelerates, the identification subjectively of the movement of the essence of Rose and the re-incorporation of Rose as a Dream Walker becomes more and more of an awareness subjectively with many individuals. Although they may not hold an objective awareness of this action, they do hold a subjective awareness, and this is reflected in their action of physical naming of small ones of this name to be correlating with their awareness of the identification of movement of this particular essence.

It is a continuation, a validation to you all objectively of the movement of this shift. It is almost what you may express to yourselves as an objective symbol of your time framework. This particular word becomes more and more and more common and is expressed more and more frequently, and this would be what you are viewing presently and are allowing yourselves an awareness of and a recognition of in this situation.

MARGOT: And this would be the case with Sara Rose and Jamie Rose?

ELIAS: Correct.” [session 306, August 09, 1998]

ROB: “...I’ve had a number of experiences of finding dead birds by the back door of my home. (Elias grins) Does this perhaps relate to Rose?

ELIAS: Yes, and other individuals have also encountered this experience as of late. I have expressed several times previously that Rose is quite fond of incorporating imagery which is involving of these creatures of birds, almost as what you may term to be in physical focus a trademark. (Chuckling)

In this, this particular imagery is suggestive of the movement of this particular essence in the action that approaches, so to speak, of the fragmentation of the manifestations of this particular essence within physical focus. As you are aware, this particular essence holds nine manifestations presently in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and in this, I have expressed previously that there is held a future probability that each of these nine focuses shall be fragmenting and creating of their own essences.

In this, there shall be occurring an unusual dynamic, so to speak, within this action, in returning Rose, in a manner of speaking, to what you may term to be the status of Dream Walker.

I shall futurely be discussing this subject matter more fully, but within this present time framework there are difficulties presented in offering this subject matter, for it is quite abstract, and individuals lean in the direction of thought processes in which they are listening and attempting to assimilate this information in this particular subject matter in too much of a literal type of term, which this particular action that Rose incorporates is quite abstract and does not translate well into your physically focused language and concepts. Therefore, I shall be encouraging individuals to be incorporating and practicing with their inner sense of conceptualization before I am moving in the direction of offering more of this information in conjunction with this essence of Rose.

ROB: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.” [session 326, September 29, 1998]

DEANE: “One night, about a month or two ago, before going to sleep, I asked for help putting all this new knowledge together. I had a dream where a strange-looking person was showing me around ... and what and what not to do. I awoke with this image of a small bird like a sparrow sitting on my shoulder, almost like a companion. Could you help with an explanation of this dream, or was it a dream? There were certain elements that made it seem like it wasn’t a dream.

ELIAS: Let me express to you that this interaction has been a projection within consciousness – that which you term to be an out-of-body experience – and in this experience you have allowed yourself to be connecting and interacting with the essence of Rose, which offers manifestations objectively in the manner of birds. Rose is quite fond of this particular type of manifestation and chooses this expression almost as an objective signature, so to speak.

In this, you have interacted with this essence in conjunction to information concerning your interaction within this shift and your intent, that of which we have spoken within your previous question. This particular interaction follows within that same subject matter, and that essence has been interactive with you also, in different manner to myself, but has offered you energy expressions to be helpful in your accomplishment of your individual intent in this time framework. That essence is quite interactive within this shift in consciousness, therefore is also quite interactive with many individuals within physical focus in the promotion of this shift in consciousness.” [session 383, April 15, 1999]

DEANE: “Speaking of Rose, when you and I met last, you said that I had an out-of-body experience with Rose. (7) Could you enlighten me with some details as to what it was we did? (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: This was an engagement of exchange of energy to be helpful to you in situations that you are creating within your focus in relation to this shift in consciousness – your outward expression in offering information to other individuals – and an offering of that essence to you to be infusing you, in a manner of speaking, with a type of energy that shall be helpful to you in allowing you to hold within your own energy, that you may be participating objectively.

Now; figuratively speaking – underline figuratively – I express to you, in your terms, this may be translated as you have been offered a boost, so to speak, of energy in a strengthening manner, that you may be allowing yourself the ability to be viewing and addressing to issues within your individual experiences which may be challenging but are beneficial to you, and therefore you are creating them purposefully. This shall couple your expression outwardly.

Many times as individuals move into the position of outwardly expressing in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, they may be facing themselves, in a manner of speaking, with opposition, and in this, it may not appear to be the opposition in terms that are in conjunction with your expectations.

Your expectation of the word ‘opposition’ is that individuals may be vehemently in disagreement with you. We do not express this as the force of opposition, but the force of opposition may appear, in your terms, to be much more subtly introduced to you, requiring of you an element of strength within your hold of your energy, not allowing yourself to be moving yourself into greater expressions of duplicity within your own expressions, for this would be defeating of the point of offering helpfulness to other individuals.

What many individuals have not quite grasped in their understanding yet is that in offering helpfulness to other individuals, your greatest expression is to first be accomplishing within self, for if you are not accomplishing within self and if you are expressing yourself in convolution, how shall you be helpful to other individuals as they may be experiencing being convoluted also?” [session 410, June 04, 1999]

DEANE: “Regarding Rose, occasionally a bird will fly into my window here in the computer room. From the force, I know it must hurt the poor thing’s head pretty bad! Does this have anything to do with Rose, since that bird seems to be one of its favorite figures?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

Now; look to the imagery that is presented to you. It is offered in an expression of validation for your noticing. Look to your expression presently: ‘The bird flies to my window and it is smashing of its head,’ which appears to you to be quite painful.

Now; the imagery that is offered to you in this expression is, look to the bird and the quality of beauty that it exhibits to you. Look to its actions and the association that you create in conjunction with its actions of being hurtful to itself, and in this, you present yourself with the understanding of the communication of this essence to you: to be looking to self and recognizing the beauty and the wondrousness of your own creations, and how efficiently you ARE creating your reality. And look to the complications within your creations that are conflicting and hurtful to yourself, for no other individual is being hurtful to you, but you quite effectively may be hurtful to yourself!

DEANE: I see. I think I’ve got some understandings there too. The out-of-body experience that I had with Rose that we discussed before, why was that specifically with Rose? Why not you or someone else?

ELIAS: This essence moves in conjunction with this energy exchange in offering an expression of energy to be facilitating of the objective interaction which is provided, in a manner of speaking, to individuals within physical focus. Therefore, at times, in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, that particular essence of Rose may be choosing to be directly interactive with individuals that are drawing this information to themselves, offering them expressions of validation of self.

This essence of Rose is not concerning itself with expressions directly, so to speak, of instructional quality. What it moves itself into in interaction with individuals within physical focus is the expression of validation, and for the most part, the type of validation that is offered is not necessarily a validation of any particular movement that the individual may be creating or any particular choices that the individual may be creating, but merely a validation of themselves and the beauty and the wondrousness of themselves and how it may be validated. Your very being – and that you ARE – is what this essence presents in reminder to you of your own wondrousness in your creation within physical focus.

DEANE: You said before that the energy Rose had lent me had to do with – or at least one of the things had to do with – helping me in situations I was creating in relation to this shift in consciousness. Can you tell me or be a little more specific regarding these situations and what they are?

ELIAS: In this, as you move more fully into the exploration of yourself and begin to incorporate more and more awareness objectively of yourself and of reality and what you create within your reality, this follows, as you widen your awareness, your individual expression outwardly as your engagement in helpfulness within this shift.

Now; the essence of Rose is quite interactive in lending much energy to the action of this shift in consciousness. This is the direction of attention that that particular essence moves within quite concentratedly, and in this, there is a recognition of individuals that ARE moving into directions of more fully being expressive of their intent in conjunction with this shift in consciousness.

Therefore, this essence of Rose shall be validating to you in offering energy expressions and exchanges and objective imagery at times, so to speak, in moments that you are moving into areas of examination and exploration of self in terms of reality and not merely concept.” [session 421, June 04, 1999]

JULIE: “I do have a question for another Drew. This is the Drew (essence name of Matthew) that you probably speak to more often, and it is about bird imagery, and he’s sort of wondering what all the birds are about.

ELIAS: There is much movement occurring within this final year time framework of this millennium, which I have expressed previously. In this, essences are also quite active within energy in lending expressions that shall be gaining attention in this time framework. Essences also, in conjunction with yourselves – I am speaking now of nonphysically focused essences in conjunction with each of you as essences and focuses of essences – move in harmony within the action of this shift, in offering yourselves and offering expressions to each other that shall gain your attention objectively within your physical focus.

Therefore, what is being presented with many individuals presently is much imagery in relation to birds. This would the expression, as you are aware, of the essence of Rose. The reason that there is imagery presented in this manner is that it may be gaining attention to be redirecting individuals’ attention in physical focus to the action of this shift, for objectively, individuals presently are moving in directions of concentrating too intensely upon self, to the point of distraction and confusion, and in this are thwarting their own efforts, in a manner of speaking, and not moving in conjunction with this shift in consciousness. Therefore, there is imagery offered by Rose to be moving the attention in the direction of the shift.

Each time you are presented with imagery that is of birds, you automatically now hold a thought in conjunction with Rose. Therefore, there is an automatic response, and in this, the intention is accomplished, for there is an offering of the objective expression, and the attention is diverted once again to the direction of this shift.” [session 432, July 28, 1999]

DARYL: “Speaking of roses, I do have a long history of connection with the name Rose. It’s an unofficial middle name for me, and roses are a symbol, and I’ve also been around birds my whole life, and I wondered if those in any way indicate a connection to Rose other than the general shift connection. (Pause)

ELIAS: This is an identification that you hold a conjunction with this essence of Rose in the subjective remembrance of mergence of essences, which has offered to you, or you have offered to yourself within that mergence, the fragmentation and the assimilation of certain qualities of tones that are quite similar in how they are expressed within the essence of Rose.

I am quite understanding that this is quite abstract in what I am expressing to you, but within your language and within the translation into physical, objective, conceptual construct, it is quite difficult to be offering an undistorted explanation in the translation of your understanding.

What I may express to you is that there is an identification of tone which has been assimilated, so to speak, through fragmentation, and [in] this, you have allowed yourself an element of objective bleed-through.

Now; this is also in conjunction with this shift in consciousness. Do not be discounting the tremendous affectingness and energy of this shift in consciousness, for it may be quite consuming, in a manner of speaking, in your attention, for it moves in great intensity, and you have born yourself into a time framework of great acceleration of it. Therefore, it is tremendously affecting.

DARYL: I don’t know how to express this exactly, but it seems to reach backward in linear time in my life, like since the beginning of my life it’s been there, but I didn’t recognize what it was till now.

ELIAS: Quite. This is the factor that you have allowed objectively to be bleeding through and to be influencing of you. This has been quite purposeful in motivating you objectively to be investigating different areas of study, so to speak, which has also moved you into the direction of availing yourself of information in conjunction with this shift in consciousness. As I have expressed to you previously, you move in an intent in this focus which is quite intertwined with the action of this shift.” [session 439, August 05, 1999]

DREW: “For the past six months, I’ve had a lot of very significant bird imagery, which is still going on. Someone asked on my behalf, I think, this question of you in a private, and I think you said it had something to do with communication with the family of Rose, but that means absolutely nothing to me. I was wondering if you could elaborate.

(Vic’s note: For clarification, there is no “family of Rose.” Rose is Sumafi and chooses to represent the Borledim family in certain actions, just as Elias is Sumafi and chooses to represent the Sumari family in certain actions. This is clarified later in this session.)

ELIAS: I shall express to you, all of you are participating in this shift in consciousness, and as you are aware, the families of consciousness of the Borledim and the Vold are – in a manner of speaking – directing this shift in consciousness, and within that movement, as you each individually are allowing yourselves to open and widen your awareness, you are also allowing yourselves imagery and confirmations, in a manner of speaking, of the movement of energy within this shift as it continues.

Many individuals allow themselves the manifestation of imagery in conjunction with the Borledim family, in the recognition of their particular direction in this shift.

Therefore, the essence of Rose is the one essence that you have allowed yourselves to create an identification with – in your objective recognition – in conjunction with the movement of this shift. You offer to yourselves imagery in the form of birds many times, for this is an objective expression of this particular essence of Rose, in which it chooses to offer physical manipulations of energy.

Now; the interaction that individuals create in the imagery of birds is not necessarily continuously an individual expression of the actual essence of Rose. But in a manner of speaking, generally, the essence of Rose projects energy which is manipulated within your physical dimension in conjunction with all of the creations of birds in any form within this physical dimension.

Therefore, as I express to different individuals that they are allowing themselves imagery or connecting to the energy of the Borledim family – or I may be expressing that you are receiving imagery in conjunction with the essence of Rose – ALL of your creatures that are identified as birds within this dimension hold an energy fleck, so to speak, of this essence of Rose, for this is the choice of that essence, to be projecting energy into this particular species within this dimension.

This particular essence holds an affinity for this particular manifestation of consciousness. In like manner to yourselves within physical focus and your preference to a dog or a cat or a bird, this particular essence holds an affinity for the manifestations physically expressed of birds within this physical dimension.

This is not an uncommon expression of essences, that they may identify a particular affinity, so to speak, with a particular type of physical manifestation within an individual physical reality. It may be an expression of rocks, it may be an expression of crystals, it may be an expression of mountains, of water, of a particular creature – this is a physical expression of energy that they hold a preference with in its configuration of energy within the physical dimension.

Also in like manner to your preferences to music or to different tones or different artistic expressions, these are all very similar expressions that you all create as essences, and as I express, this particular essence of Rose projects an aspect, a fleck of energy into all of the physical manifestations of birds within this physical dimension; this also being quite purposeful in the actual physical participation of this dimension without creating an actual physical manifestation – before this point in your linear time framework – of focuses.

Until this time framework, this particular essence has not participated in the physical focusing of attentions in this particular physical dimension, but chooses to be participating in the movement of energy in this physical dimension, and chooses to be participating in the creation of this physical dimension.

There are many different methods, so to speak, that any essence may choose to be participating in any particular physical dimension, and not necessarily manifesting actual focuses of attention ... which are YOU. (Grinning)

In this, as each of you allow yourselves to be noticing and creating your movement in widening your awareness, you also allow yourselves to be connecting with certain expressions of energy that you allow to validate to yourselves your movement – that you ARE participating within the action of this shift, that you ARE creating movement, that you are NOT separated, and that you as individuals are not singularly experiencing a nonparticipation as all other individuals upon your planet are participating in this shift in consciousness.

This allows you objectively an expression of feeling or sensing your own participation, which you translate into the terminology of connecting. You are already connecting, for you already connected!

But in the design of this physical dimension, prior to the initiation of this shift in consciousness, the veil of separation has been quite intense, and you, individually and collectively, have quite intentionally forgotten your interconnectedness and the lack of separation.

Therefore, as you move into the action of this shift and you are allowing yourselves to widen your awareness, you also provide yourselves with imagery – for all of your reality is imagery – and in this imagery, you shall direct your attention to be noticing those elements of your reality that you may identify individually as an expression of this shift.

Your identification within you, in like manner to many other individuals that participate within this forum, is an objective connection with the essence of Rose as a representation of the Borledim family, and this creates several layers of identification within you of movement in this shift in consciousness.

If you are offering yourself objective imagery that you notice and that you may identify with an element that you hold objective knowledge of that is an expression of this shift in consciousness, you shall also automatically offer yourself a validation of your participation in this movement.

This particular expression is quite objective and easily identified by many individuals. It requires little thought process; it requires little concentration. There is an immediate identification.

You create a situation in which you are noticing interaction or connection with these particular creatures in repeated actions. Therefore, this creates an objective thought process of unusualness and you notice, and in that noticing, you draw your attention to a specific direction. This allows you to identify your participation in the movement of this shift in consciousness, for the direction is being manipulated by these two families of consciousness.

Now; individuals do not conversely create a tremendous expression of objective identification and connection, so to speak, with repeated elements as an expression of the Vold family, for they do not allow themselves to be identifying as intensely with the essence that is representative of that family.

This also is quite understandable, for the essence family of Borledim directs attention and intent and energy into the manifestation of physical focuses of essences; physical manifestations and their directions. You hold within yourselves an identification objectively with that intent. It is more familiar to you, for you ARE physically manifest, and you also hold an affinity for this particular family in its expression of allowing the creation of physical manifestations and its direction of energy in that movement.

Few individuals upon your planet shall view a small one and not be responsive in some manner. Few individuals shall express tremendous negativity at a new manifestation of one of you. Regardless of your choice of whether you shall participate in the agreement to be facilitating a new focus into this physical dimension, for the most part, you all create a momentary identification and affinity and affection for infants, for they are new manifestations of yourselves into this physical dimension. This is an underlying identification that you associate with this family of Borledim, and therefore there is an automatic affinity for that particular essence family.

That essence family also identifies with a particular color tone that creates a soothing effect within your physical dimensions – pink. This is a very calming and soothing color vibration.

All of these elements all lend to your identification of this particular essence family, and as you allow yourselves to be opening within your awareness, those of you as individuals that hold elements – strongly expressed within your individual focuses – of fear magnate to this particular essence family and this particular essence of Rose as the representative of that family within this forum, for it is nurturing and calming and offers you an expression of acceptance.

DREW: So, there is significance to the fact that it’s that family, and it’s birds instead of rocks or water – or the awareness of birds as opposed to any of those other things is significant in itself – because it represents a certain need for a certain comfort level because of the fear that I hold or any of us hold?

ELIAS: This is an identification with this one particular essence, not the entirety of that essence family. But underlyingly, you also associate with that particular essence family.

This particular essence holds an affinity for these particular creatures, for within your individual physical dimension, there is an extreme expression of diversity of manifestations of this particular species of creature. There are many, many, many, many different creations of birds. This offers a tremendous expression of diversity with this particular essence and its projection of energy within these particular creatures.

This also would be quite in alignment with the expression of the Borledim family, for there is an extreme expression and involvement of the diversity and individuality and uniqueness of all of you as focuses. Therefore, this is a type of mirror expression in objective terms, and it IS holding significance.

You shall notice that the individuals throughout the engagement of this forum that offer themselves imagery and connection and hold their attention in the direction of this essence of Rose all hold a similar expression in intensity ... which is not to be expressing that it is overwhelming, for intensity holds different qualities.

But you all hold a type of intensity within your own manifestations and expressions of your own energy within this physical dimension that is manifest in the expression of fear, and this particular essence offers a nurturing and comforting expression of energy which is quite accepting, which allows you a subjective identification of that energy which you hold within yourselves, and allows you an opportunity to be tapping into your own expressions of energy, and allows you to allow yourself permission to be moving more into an expression of acceptance of self in an element of ease, for the expression of acceptance counterbalances the expression of the fear. (With a crooked smile) Is this helpful?

DREW: I would never have figured that out myself! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Ah, but eventually, you would! (Chuckling)

PAUL: Elias, I have a question about what you stated as an ‘energy fleck’ in the relationship of Rose as an energy personality essence with birds, which are not an energy personality essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: There’s a relationship between Rose and birds that you call an energy fleck. Is that unique to Rose, or do all of our essences hold similar energy fleck relationships with all of consciousness in this dimension?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the choices of the individual essences.

All essences hold this quality and ability to be projecting these energy flecks, in a manner of speaking, to any element of consciousness. All essences may not choose to be creating that type of action, in like manner to, all essences do not choose to be participating and engaging in certain or all physical dimensions within consciousness. Some essences choose to be creating an exploration within physical dimensions, and some do not. One expression is not better than another expression. They are merely different choices. They are different directions of attention.

Therefore, manifestation into physical dimensions is not lower or worse than manifestations within nonphysical areas of consciousness, and as we have stated many times, you do not occupy a higher plane merely that you choose as essence not to be participating within physical dimensions. They are merely different experiences.

Now; in this, I express this terminology, that you may not become confused in associating with the terminology of aspects, for we have spoken of aspects of essence frequently and much, and in this, you have created an association with that terminology, and you may become confused in the word[s] of ‘a projection of aspects of essence into a creature,’ as I have also stated to you that you do NOT manifest as essence into the form of a creature.

This may be confusing if we are incorporating the terminology of aspects, and in this, it is not an energy concentration of an aspect. An aspect of an essence or of a focus of essence holds a greater energy concentration than would a fleck of energy which is projected by essence into the movement of consciousness in the manifestation of a creature or any element within your physical dimension.

PAUL: So it’s another type of expression of essence, but you differentiate by intensity. It’s a projection versus an actual aspect or a focus of attention?

ELIAS: There are other distinctions. It is not merely intensity. It is not merely an intensity in volume of energy, although these are qualities of the energy which is projected. But also, an aspect of essence shall express personality and the energy signature of the essence or of the focuses of attention of essence.

These flecks of energy may be expressed similarly, within your physical terms, in relation to a small word [i.e fleck] that you create in your language. Each word that you create within your language is verbalized, so to speak, and that is a physical projection of energy. It is an actual configuration of energy, but it is not necessarily an entire expression of you. It is a projection of an element of energy of you, but it is also expressed, figuratively speaking, outwardly from you, and is allowed to be projected and to merely fly free, so to speak.

PAUL: So these energy flecks of Rose as manifest in birds, this is not a unique relationship of Rose to birds or an exclusive relationship of the essence of Rose, ’cause there are other essences that can project energy flecks to birds also.

ELIAS: Correct.

This be the reason that I specify that this is an identification that you allow yourselves within THIS forum, for within this forum and within the context of this information that we have offered to you, there is an identification of this one particular essence of Rose – that is associated as a representative of this family of Borledim – which is not a participant in the family of Borledim.

It is not an essence which is belonging to the family of Borledim. It is merely a representative in this forum of that essence family that allows you an objective association and understanding of that particular essence family, and offers an expression that translates in objective energy that you may understand in conjunction with the family of Borledim.

But you are correct. Any essence may create this type of action, and many essences DO create this type of action. You have been offered increments of information previously by the essence of Seth, which has offered you information also of this type of action; not to the extent of this essence of Rose, which chooses to be projecting these flecks to ALL of the manifestations of this particular species upon your planet, but the action is the same.

PAUL: One final question: so this relationship of Rose is within the context of this forum, and it belongs to the Sumafi family?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Are there ... the other essences that help with the energy exchange that belong to the Sumafi family, but represent, in similar fashion to Rose representing Borledim, the intent the other eight families, are there other essences who have energy fleck signatures that have manifest that we’re aware of, or is this unique to Rose?

ELIAS: Not within this same type of expression. This one essence chooses to be projecting these energy flecks, as I have stated, into the physical manifestations of all of the birds within this particular physical dimension. Within the representation of the essences which facilitate this phenomenon and this exchange, the other essences do not choose to be creating this same type of projection. This is not to say that they do not participate in some projections of these energy flecks, but not in an intensity and consistency of one particular manifestation of species.

PAUL: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

JIM: I have a question. Good evening, Elias.

ELIAS: Good evening.

JIM: In regard to the birds and as an example objectively of bird imagery, up at the ranch, a pigeon flew in for a few weeks. We got to liking the bird, and all of a sudden it disappeared, and then shortly after that, a number of our birds showed up attacked by a bobcat, with their heads missing, and so I’m trying to relate to some of this! But would that be a fearfulness of getting my head bit off or something? (Laughter) Or how I’m expressing myself or something? Because when the pigeon came, I thought of Rose, and it was a really neat bird, and all of a sudden it disappeared, and I’m very curious.

ELIAS: Very well. First of all, let me express to you each that the individuals that offer themselves this imagery of birds in conjunction with the essence of Rose do hold this similar expression or manifestation or energy configuration of fear within their focus, but the imagery that each of you presents to yourself within your expressions that you offer yourselves may not necessarily be addressing to a specific element of fear.

This is merely the commonality that these individuals hold, and why – in a manner of speaking – they choose to be offering their imagery to themselves in conjunction with that particular type of manifestation. The presentment may not be in relation to fear itself, and it may not be an expression to be drawing your attention to fear.

In this situation with Matthew [Drew], this is not an expression to be drawing his attention to a manifestation or an expression of fearfulness, but the reason that he chooses to be manifesting objective imagery in this manner of birds is to be offering himself imagery of validation to himself of his individual movement in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, as an objective identification of a nurturing and accepting expression.

In the situation of the imagery that you are presenting to yourself, this also is not necessarily an expression that you are offering to be drawing your attention to an element of fear, but that you are offering imagery to yourself in drawing your attention to different areas that you are choosing to be addressing to, and this is in conjunction with your allowance, each of you, of your individual movement in widening your awareness.

Therefore, your presentment of this imagery is quite different from that of Matthew [Drew], for this is not an expression of validation of your movement and your lack of separation within the action of this shift in consciousness. This is an expression that Matthew [Drew] offers to himself, for this is the movement that he is creating presently, and therefore it moves in conjunction with his movement.

Your presentment also is in conjunction with your movement, and presently, you are presenting yourself with the identification of certain elements within your reality that you view as distasteful, unacceptable, or that you do not like, and in this, within your movement of energy, allowing certain aspects of beliefs to be surfacing, so to speak, objectively, you present yourself with imagery in different manners that shall invoke a specific response within you.

Matthew [Drew] offers a response within himself of a validation and acceptance in this imagery, a comfort of connection.

You, in your imagery, offer yourself an immediate and automatic response of revulsion and confusion. This is an expression of dislike, and as you offer to yourself imagery in this manner, you offer yourself the opportunity to view many different elements which present themselves within your focus that you are not liking of.

This is the presentment of an opportunity, for as you allow yourself to view these elements, you also allow yourself to be noticing and exploring your reasons why you do not like these elements, and this offers you the opportunity to view the judgments and the expression of the beliefs that are automatically expressed as you interact or encounter, so to speak, elements that you do not like.” [session 502, November 11, 1999]

ANGELIKA: “The nine little ones from the essence of Rose, they are all male?


ANGELIKA: There must be a reason, as we just talked about absolutes (inaudible).

ELIAS: There is a reason, which I have discussed previously. It was purposefully chosen to be an illustration of the alteration of the energy. Throughout your history to this point of the Shift, the dominant energy has been male. In this shift, that is shifting to the female energy, and therefore was purposefully chosen to be males as the example of shifting to a female energy in association with male gender.

ANGELIKA: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I will incorporate two questions.

ANNE: On the Rose question, Jo H. is channeling Rose, from what I understand from the forums, the chat things. Is that the case?

ELIAS: (Pause) Not yet. It is a potential, but no, not yet.” (8) [session 2284, June 02, 2007]

ELIAS: “Good morning!

JO: Good morning!

PAUL: Good morning old friend!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss?

PAUL: We’re going to discuss channeling and energy exchanges today.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: Jo do you want to…?

JO: No, you go ahead.

PAUL: Do you want me to set the stage here?

JO: Yeah.

PAUL: Back in April Joanne was working with the Ouija Board and began some sort of energy exchange with an essence that identified itself as Rose. And she started autotyping and doing some voice channeling, and I’m using different words and I know you define these words in your own way, and we can come back to that, too.

I also want to reference the June session in Vienna where Anne asked a question about Jo engaging an energy exchange with Rose and your answer was pretty grey, and you said, ‘No, not yet.’ I’m paraphrasing here, and there was no follow up question. So that’s part of our impetus today, that we finally have enough experience for us all (laughs) to ask some questions about this.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: I know you make a distinction between energy exchanges with another essence and channeling one’s own essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: And I know you’ve also made a distinction between what we can generally call trance channeling, which is what Mary is doing right now, and on the other side of the spectrum that has a middle area, too, what we’d call conscious channeling. And the first example I had of that was really Ron engaging Patel autotyping. (9)

I know you’ve commented on that saying, ‘There is no unconscious, etc. etc.’ And yet we know from our experience that there is a degree where Mary ‘steps aside,’ in our terms dissociates, and doesn’t remember through this trance state. On the other side we have a more conscious channeling where the focus personality is aware to varying degrees of what’s going on.

So I’m just setting the stage with of my knowledge, experience, and understanding of the information you’ve delivered to date.

The other thing I wanted to put on the table, while I’m doing this introduction, is just to review two other sources of information. One is from the leading scholar, a parapsychologist named Jon Klimo, who we just had the pleasure of meeting last month at the Colorado Seth Conference. He has what we’ll just call a ‘taxonomy of channeling.’ And he covers it, and I’ll add it to the notes of this session (10).

But he says there’s full trance, sleep channeling, dream channeling, conscious or light trance channeling, clairaudient, clairvoyant, automisms, open channeling, and physical channeling. As he has studied hundreds, if not thousands, of different cases he’s just trying to ballpark different functionality that’s going on.

The other thing, then, is the information you’ve given on the energy exchanges within the nine essence families: Sumafi, Milumet, Gramada, etc. And it’s quite beautiful because that range covers a very similar range to what Klimo is talking about. For example, the Vold hear voices, the Gramada work principally with dream states and inspiration, Milumet deal with mystical beings and altered states and dreams, and so on so forth.

So there’s a wide variety of potentials here in what we can call energy exchanges and channeling.

ELIAS: Quite so. And ALL of them are valid.

PAUL: Right, and I know you’ve been very clear about that and know that it’s easy to distort this Sumafi thing that we’re all very interested in, and part of for quite some time, with the intent of least distortion.

The other point I will throw out there, too, in two main areas with any energy exchange. We do want to focus on levels of distortion and seek least distortion, but then the other part of it is that as others read the information, or engage through speech or any other energetic exchange, they have to interpret the information as well. And there’s plenty of for distortion, as you’ve pointed out repeatedly, and we all have examples of ourselves over the years with your information of doing just that and learning the subtleties. We were just talking about that with Mary today about how much time goes by and until perhaps we finally get some of these concepts.

So with that preamble I would love for you to offer your opinion on what’s been happening with Joanne for the last six months.

ELIAS: Very well. First of all, I will clarify for you what I expressed in that group interaction. For at that time it was not yet entirely what you would term to be an energy exchange. It was partial, but not entirely, which perhaps may be somewhat confusing. But in that (pause)… in certain types of interactions, the individual engaging an essence may be initially excited but also hesitant, and therefore they may partially allow for some interaction, but not completely. That was the point of the potential.

PAUL: Okay.

ELIAS: I would express agreement that this has become an energy exchange…

PAUL: Alright. That’s cool to hear!

ELIAS: … [and] therefore would validate that this is actually what you are engaging. I would also express you are aware that names are a partial translation of the tone.

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: Therefore, in that partial translation of the tone, names can be repeated and not necessarily be the same essence. Are you understanding?

PAUL: Yes. And let me just give an example and then you can clarify. Let’s say Kris, channeled by Serge Grandbois, refers to Serge as Joseph. Seth channeled by Jane Roberts referred to Rob Butts as Joseph, and Kris has said it’s not the same essence. It’s the same name but it’s a different variation of tone. At least that’s my understanding. Is that what you’re…

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: …meaning?

ELIAS: Yes, that is correct. And I will express that within this forum I also identified an individual’s essence name as Joseph and expressed that it is not the same essence as that one that you are referring to in association with Seth. (11)

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: Therefore, that being expressed, what I will express to you in clarification is that this essence of Rose is not the same essence of Rose as that which participates in this energy exchange.

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: But it is another essence and you are engaging an exchange. And I will express to you in encouragement – it matters not how you engage the exchange, it is ALL valid.

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: And I would also express to you an encouragement in a manner to not necessarily concern yourself overly with the factor of distortion. For I will express to you that as you become more at ease with the exchange, and as you become more open to it, there will be less and less of that distortion. Therefore, it is not a matter to actually concern yourself with.

AND I will also express to you that each essence that engages an exchange with an individual within physical focus is generating that with their own purpose. And therefore the benefit of each one is different, and in that it genuinely is not necessary to concern yourself with distortion, for it is MORE significant to discover the direction of that essence and what that essence is offering in benefit to you.

PAUL: Mmhm. Yes.

ELIAS: And you are quite correct. Regardless of what is being presented by any essence, the information will be filtered through individual’s beliefs, their associations, their perception, and therefore it may be distorted. BUT it matters not, for if it is accomplishing its purpose and if it is accepted information from whomever engages it, it is valid. And it can be helpful and informative.

PAUL: Yes.

ELIAS: I am greatly encouraging of you both.

JO: Thank you!

PAUL: Thank you. And we were just saying to Mary beforehand that this is the tenth anniversary of our very first private session with you ten years ago to the day. So that’s an interesting anniversary that we’re celebrating jointly today!

ELIAS: (Laughs loudly, then slyly) And there are no coincidences.

PAUL: Yes!

ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express that that is very creative in your experience.

PAUL: Absolutely, because both are very memorable occasions for us, including today. So it’s wonderful talking to you, as always, in a private, and it’s also wonderful to get more information about this energy exchange.

Jo do you have some questions?

JO: Yeah, we’re still strapped in for the ride, which is what you referred to (laughing) ten years ago today. (12) Now more than ever perhaps!

ELIAS: (Laughs)

JO: Thank you for what you said. It’s very encouraging, and one of the things I also don’t want to over-worry is this Rose ontology, whether or not my Rose is your Rose. And I just wanted to see if you find this accurate. The way she described it to me is that she has described herself as this essence that is a progenitor of other essences, and doesn’t have any physical focuses. So she sounds a lot like yours, but the way that she’s described herself is as a ‘well of energy’ and through the filter of myself she becomes filtered by my intent, and through coming through you and Mary, she becomes filtered through YOU. And therefore she isn’t the same Rose because of that, although there is a certain energy that perhaps we’re both referencing or tapping into. Is that accurate?

ELIAS: Yes, that would be accurate, and I would express to you that this is insightful of you to notice that this essence is expressing to you that it does not incorporate physical focuses, and the other essence does.

JO: Which essence? Your essence does? (Laughs) Your Rose does?

PAUL: The nine children. (13)

JO: Oh yes! Okay.

ELIAS: Yes, correct. And in that I will express to you that that does not prevent you or this essence at times from tapping into the energy of the other Rose, and combining that with your own energy exchange.

PAUL: Right, that’s clear. And Rose has delivered some preliminary information that says the same thing essentially. (14) So it’s a little cloudy, it’s a little grey, and at that level, not level, but that Regional Area of Self, that’s as far as I’m going to speculate about how it all works anyway, but it seems….

ELIAS: (Interrupting) For I will express to you that within nonphysical areas of consciousness there genuinely is no separation.

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: And therefore the energies are continuously mingling. And in that, any essence can merge with any other essence and can draw different angles or directions, so to speak, from other essences. This is also the reason there are many essences participating in this energy exchange that I engage. For in that, it allows for a greater source of energy, which allows for a more powerful exchange. In this, your exchange with Rose CAN incorporate the same type of action and CAN mingle with the other essence of Rose, and therefore generate some differences in energy and in information through its own mingling.

BOTH: Right.

PAUL: And we’re starting to get some hints of that through the interaction thus far. It’s only been six months, so it’s still very, very new.

ELIAS: (Slyly chuckles)

BOTH: (Laugh)

JO: (Chuckling) And Elias, you know I’m pretty well versed in your teachings so I guess it’s no accident that Rose is very consonant with your teachings to a large degree, for example, with the families of consciousness. She’s also going to be using the orientations, pointing to your teachings and so on. And I guess along with my Borledim intent and alignment, she will be helping to reach to people in simpler language.

But some of things, too, that she said differ a little bit from what you’re teaching. So I imagine that some people may see these things as contradictory but they really aren’t. I’m reminded of some of the information that was slightly different between you and Kris, and so I sense that you are both, well, all you dead guys and gals are in cahoots, and I just wanted to know if you would comment on that.

ELIAS: I would quite agree, and let me express to you what may SEEM to be contradictory is not necessarily. And in this, I would express that different essences choose to engage language differently. Therefore, WORDS can be viewed quite literally and they may not necessarily be.

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: Many words can be incorporated to express one meaning. Therefore, they may not necessarily be contradictory. They may SEEM to be, superficially, but in actuality I would agree that, in your terms, we are all in cahoots (laughs).

BOTH: (Laugh)

ELIAS: As we are all in similar direction and may choose to incorporate different words, but generally speaking I would express that essences are not paradoxical, or in disagreement, or that we are engaging different directions. We are merely expressing them in different manners.

PAUL: Right. And that comes back to what you’ve mapped as the essence family intents. That’s where those nine main forms, you get nine styles or nine types. So you’re going to get a nice rainbow of potential translations and styles, right?

ELIAS: Correct. AND I will express that there may be more than nine. Those are the basic…

PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: …or the most common. But there are many, many, many different manners in which an exchange can occur. And there are many manners in which individuals can tap into information within their own essence. Remember, your own essence is no different than any other essence. You incorporate the same information as any other essence and therefore it is equally as valid in channeling energy from your own essence, and providing information, as an energy exchange with another essence.

At times, channeling energy from your own essence may be MORE personal and, as I have expressed, is easier. And in that, you are ALL privy to the same information that any other essence can provide. But that is not the situation that you are engaging presently. You are engaging an energy exchange and that is different only in association with the energy itself, and the affect that it engages in association with you as a physical manifestation. (Pause)

JO: Okay. I don’t have a follow-up question. I’m pleased to hear that because part of Rose’s agenda will be to encourage people to connect with their intent and their mode of channeling or providing an energy exchange. So this helps make it, I think, a little bit more accessible to also hear you say that. Thank you.

ELIAS: (Laughs slyly)

JO: (Laughs)

PAUL: I have a follow-up question Elias about the, let’s just call it the sub-families. We know that the nine families are what we call in our integral work ‘orienting generalizations.’ They ballpark us, and as you’ve stated before, there’s many, many variations of those things in the sub-families. I just wanted to explore a little bit here about Joanne’s alignment and belonging to, as you have given it as Ilda belonging to and Borledim aligning with. Is that still her tone?


PAUL: Okay. In your energy exchange typology with the Borledim energy exchange, you’ve not given a lot of information on that, but you mention the one example of ‘children’s invisible friends.’ And I was struck by that as I revisited the information initially because here, with Joanne, is an adult with an ‘invisible friend,’ in that Joanne can engage Rose consciously to varying degrees. It’s like having an invisible friend. So that’s just one thing I wanted to put out there.

The other thing is that with her Ilda belonging to as a dominant tone from your perspective, as she engages this energy exchange with Rose, this Rose… I want to pick the word carefully… I’ll say ‘cloud’ to give it some generalness. As her Ilda belonging to engages this exchange, it is part of what’s coloring what’s coming through. And we got the term ‘Sumilda’ as sort of a hybrid Sumafi/Ilda layer in this exchange with her.

So I’m just putting that out there: the Borledim alignment, the invisible friend, the Sumilda essence layer, and this Rose cloud and see what your comments are on that. I know it’s pretty esoteric (laughs).

JO: (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Laughs) I would agree with the analogy of the Borledim, and I would express that that is quite consistent with the qualities of that family. I would also express that the Ilda allows for the type of direction that you are beginning to move within. You are already beginning to identify the direction of this essence and therefore your own direction in participating with this essence in sharing information. And those qualities of the Ilda facilitate that, and allow you to generate that more easily.

JO: The conversations that I have with Rose, or the intention of distributing this information more commonly among more people, or both?

ELIAS: Both. And what you express in association with what you are already identifying, that your understanding is, that this essence is moving in a direction of encouraging other individuals to be more freely tapping into their own essences, their own information, and perhaps other essences.

JO: Right.

ELIAS: And therefore, you already are beginning to recognize certain elements that are creating a direction with yourself and this essence.

JO: Right.

ELIAS: And in that, the Ilda is quite helpful, for it allows you to move in that direction more easily.

JO: Yes, she’ll say something, and I’ll laugh while speaking for her because I am present to some degree. (Laughing) It’s just…

ELIAS: (Laughs)

JO: …really strange. You know, just the actual state that I’m in when I’m doing that. Yup, thank you.

ELIAS: As for the other essence family qualities that your subdivision or hybrid, whichever you choose to identify it as, that would be a drawing of energy from the other essence – an incorporation of those qualities.

JO: You taught me well! (All laugh) I’ve become more like you in the process of learning to engage Rose’s Sumafi energy.

PAUL: So that’s where this Sumilda hybrid makes some sense?


PAUL: Right.

ELIAS: It is quite understandable, for in incorporating those qualities also, it generates an effective combination to accomplish the direction that you are moving in.

JO: You know you just reminded me of something you said to me years ago about ‘you can connect any dots,’ you know. But I think what this does is to provide an orientation to my intentionality of knowing which dots I want to connect, and if they’re accurate dots.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

JO: So that fits. I’m pleased about that. I’ve finally become a member of the tribe (laughing). (15)

ALL: (Laugh)

ELIAS: Perhaps you may engage your own tribal celebration and dance!

BOTH: (Laughing) I think we just might!

PAUL: Well that answers all my questions for today. Jo do you have any….

JO: I just have one that comes to mind. When we first met you in Elmira I asked you about my Borledim intent and alignment, and I said, ‘I’m infertile so what do you mean? I might be having children?’ And you said, ‘You don’t need to be bearing twelve children to be Borledim aligned.’ And you made a mention that was very innocuous of having a child late in life, and I kind of think this is what you were talking about. (16) Am I right?

ELIAS: Yes you are.

JO: So you saw these probabilities, of course, at that time.

ELIAS: Potential, yes. They were not actual probabilities yet, but potential. (17)

JO: Well, thank you. (Laughing) This has been quite a wild ride, and I look forward to many more years of this and I just want to thank you for all your loving support, you know – objectively, subjectively, and everything.

PAUL: Ditto!

ELIAS: You are very welcome my dear friends. I offer you tremendous encouragement in your journey and BE GENTLE with yourself, for energy exchanges can be challenging, but remember the most important factor is to remain balanced, although that also may be the most challenging.

ALL: (Laugh)

ELIAS: But, be encouraged for remember, there is NO harmful action with an energy exchange. Therefore, I am greatly acknowledging of you and greatly encouraging of you, and offer my energy of tremendous supportiveness.

JO: Thank you Elias.

PAUL: Thank you so much.

ELIAS: To you both in dear friendship, in tremendous appreciation, and in great lovingness. Au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.” [session 2358, October 01, 2007]

End Notes:

(1) Paul’s note: Elias plays a game with forum participants, in which they try and connect their impressions of various categories of objects, people, even concepts to the nine essence families. The goal is to learn how to recognize the working together of our intuitions and our intellect through our impressions.

In each public session, participants can offer their impressions and Elias usually responds with an answer of one point, acceptable, or less probable.

Digests: find out more about the game.

(2) Paul’s note: I’m including information from the Seth Material, channeled by Jane Roberts from 1963-1984, because Elias and Seth share interesting similarities.

Jane first published some of, what she termed, “Christ material” in The Seth Material (1970), Chapter 18, The God Concept – The Creation – The Three Christs. However, Seth only actually names John the Baptist and Jesus Christ saying that he would offer the third name at a later date.

In Seth Speaks, (1972), Chapter 21, The Meaning of Religion, session 586, Seth talks about the ‘Christ entity’ in terms of three physical focuses: John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and Paul or Saul of Tarsus. Seth also mentions that the twelve disciples were fragment personalities of the ‘Christ entity’ and the historical figure named “the teacher of righteousness” was a probable self. All this to say that Seth’s version of the ‘Christ entity’ phenomenon is multidimensional in nature.

According to Elias, these three primary physical focuses – whom we know today as John, Jesus, and Paul – were also manifestations of a single essence. But in addition, Elias has offered that this ‘Christ essence,’ so to speak, belongs to the Milumet essence family.

(Vic’s transcript note: Jene expressed irritation during the break with Elias’ refusal to answer [my earlier] question about essence naming [for the focus of Jesus Christ]. She also said that this is the first time she has felt irritation with Elias during a session. I am sharing this for the benefit of folks who don’t attend sessions because quite often, information delivered after a break is directly related to conversation during the break.

ELIAS: “Continuing: (To Jene) I shall offer, for your clarification and curiosity ...

JENE: Thank you.

ELIAS: ... essence family.

JENE: Okay. That’s cool.

ELIAS: For you are correct that we are focused upon the actions of essence families, and this holds significance. Therefore, I shall express the essence family. This particular essence in question, which was manifest within three physical manifestations, is of the family of Milumet.

As to a distortion, you are partially correct in that the manifestation within the intent of the family of Milumet was to be expressing of what you now term to be spirituality. In the actual expression, it was to be reminding you of your connections with essence. You are correct, in a sense, that this information has been distorted, although you have purposefully chosen the progression that you have created throughout your history, leading you within your progression of probabilities to this experience of your present shift.

Therefore, you may in one respect express that you have distorted the information offered of essence, but within another respect you have changed the information for your own experience. This essence family, within initiating of your religious time period, focused upon the intent of a remembrance of no separation of essence. This was translated symbolically, physically.” [session 141, December 22, 1996]

Later, Elias also provided the essence name for this ‘Christ essence’ during a later session :

VIVIEN: “The other thing I wanted to ask is the essence names of Mary and of Jesus. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name held by the focus of Mary, Sheen. Essence name held by the focus of Jesus, Telleth.

VIVIEN: Telleth. Okay, thank you.” [session 382, April 12, 1999]

According to Seth, it was Paul who, in creating the organization of the church that was left unsatisfied, in that he had not fulfilled his original intent. Both John and Jesus succeeded in fulfilling theirs’. So that unfulfilled intent forms the basis for Paul’s “return,” so to speak, to help make human kind more aware of their connection with All-That-Is, no longer requiring the direct mediation of priesthoods and calcified bureaucracies to directly experience the Divine Within.

While Seth speaks of this so-called “return” in very singular terms, Elias expands and diverges at this point. According to Elias, that unfulfilled intent forms the basis for the focus of Paul’s mergence with the essence of Rose to remanifest as nine male children and lend energy to our shift.

Digests: find out more about the nine children of Rose.

Digests: find out more about mergence.

Finally, for those interested, Paul (Patel) offered the essence family alignments for the three primary focuses of the ‘Christ essence’ during an online chat, dated March 10, 1998:

PATEL: “Greetings this energy has been quite encompassing of you all tonight.

PAUL: Hi Patel!

TOM: Greetings Paul (Patel).

MJ: Hello Paul (Patel).

PAUL: Yes it has!

TOM: Yes, we have felt you.

PATEL: Certain questions have arisen that may well be answered by yourselves but I shall be available to you if you so choose.

PAUL: ... A question from Tyl [Joanne]; what are the family alignments of the three focuses of the Milumet essence?

PATEL: Apologizing for delay, Olivia [Ron] has issues within this exchange.

PATEL: Focus of Jesus, Vold.

PATEL: Focus of John, also Tumold.

PATEL: Focus of Paul, Tumold.

PAUL: Thank you very much!”

Digests: find out more about Paul (Patel).

Summary of the ‘Christ essence’
names and family connections
essence name: Telleth (source: Elias)
essence family belonging to: Milumet (source: Elias)
essence family alignment: John the Baptist/Tumold (source: Patel)
essence family alignment: Jesus Christ/Vold (source: Patel)
essence family alignment: Paul/Saul of Tarsus/Tumold (source: Patel)

Digests: find out more about essence families; belonging to/aligning with.

(3) Paul’s note: it’s significant that Elias introduced the inner senses early on with the small group in Castaic, CA. He pointed out the crucial need for transrational knowing (the eye of spirit) and the limits of rational knowing (eye of mind) in order to grok those BIG concepts mentioned in my opening note.

Digests: find out more about the inner senses; an overview.

(4) Paul’s note: Elias presented an exercise in which he challenges anyone interested to construct their own portion of an inner city. The goal is to insert a “ready for prime time” version into a future probability.

Exercises: find out more about the city exercise.

Digests: find out more about the city.

(5) Paul’s note: Joanne refers to this tile she gleaned in Elmira, NY at the June 1997 Sethnet Int’l. conference.

Jojo’s tile”

Digests: find out more about the tiles.

(6) Vic’s note: this was fascinating to me personally, as I had my own imagery with birds on June 15, 1998. Briefly, I found a large dead bird in the house, and several hours later, Ron found another one. The most unusual thing was that both birds were apparently untouched, which is very strange in our house! We have three cats that all consider birds to be one of their favorite toys! Both birds were whole. There wasn’t one feather out of place. Later, I connected this imagery to the fragmentation of the nine babies.

(7) Paul’s note: Just in case you’re not paying attention, Deane refers to his previous phone session (#383, April 15, 1999) in which he shared a dream with Elias for interpretation.

(8) Paul’s note: (Written in July, 2007 before we had a chance to speak directly to Elias) Joanne H. began an energy exchange on April 05, 2007 with an energy personality essence that identified itSelf as Rose. To read about Joanne’s experiences check out: Knocking on the Door of Self: An Interview with Rose.

This exchange between Anne and Elias is a good example of the need to obtain more information before reaching any black and white, true/false, conclusion about truth claims made by Elias, or any channeled source for that matter. Note that there were no follow-up questions or additional information presented. Anne’s question was framed in a very black and white context. No one asked, for example, “if Jo’s not engaging an energy exchange, according to your definition Elias, then what has been going on with her?” Anne doesn’t know Joanne first-hand, and can only go by her own impressions from various sources.

For more information on Elias' views on energy exchanges of essence, see energy exchanges; Elias, Paul (Patel).

Knowing that Elias does not portray himself as an infallible source, it is my opinion that Jo has indeed begun some kind of energy exchange with an Aspect self, or energy personality essence, identifying itSelf as Rose. For instance, from the beginning Joanne was and continues to be “state trained” to access Rose via three main states: 1. waking state (where she can engage internal conversation with her “imaginary friend” at will), 2. “resting in Rose,” which is a more alpha-based hypnogogic state, and akin to what Jon Klimo calls open channeling, and 3. “waking dream,” which hints at being a more REM-like state with theta and delta signatures that is akin to what is called trance-channeling.

Joanne has reached the waking dream state several times, as Rose is helping her to acclimate her to its feeling-tone by pointing this state out as she falls asleep and wakes up. Initially, Joanne often engages the first two states. After all, it’s only been a little over two months, and if we look at what Jane Roberts was doing in her first two months, we find something very similar phenomenologically. That’s why I’m calling it “the Frank Withers” stage right now.

On the other hand, Kris, channeled by Serge Grandbois, is on the record as saying Joanne is engaging the beginnings of an energy exchange. On April 22, 2007 Joanne wrote an email to Serge inquiring about Hildegard Von Bingen, the 12th century mystic, composer, and writer who according to Kris shared lifetimes with many of us and was inspired by interaction with Kris. Note that Kris uses the essence name Rosalie for Joanne:

KRIS: “Now then we trust that you have enjoyed your break. Now Joseph [Serge] would like us to address an inquiry from Rosalie [Joanne].

MARK: Right.

KRIS: Now Rosalie [Joanne] is correct when she describes the link between ourselves and Hildegard von Bingen. If you know anything about the life of this individual, she was very much of an Avant-Garde individual and very prone to mediumistic tendencies. Her mysticism tapped directly into but was also translated through her religious beliefs. But suffice it to say that we did withhold information concerning Hildegard the several times we mentioned [in previous sessions]. We were somewhat elusive.

MARK: Surprise, surprise.

KRIS: The reason is that up to that time, not everyone needed to know that we were often the source of Hildegard’s inspirations and mystical experiences. There was enough controversy at those times. Now that the controversy has settled down it is time to bring it back and we had in the past established a link in the bloodline between Rosalie’s focus and that focus’ progeny which led to Hildegard. Do you recall?

MARK: Yes, I do. Also Arindal [Marcie].

KRIS: Indeed, several individuals we have known before. Now Hildegard was quite an interesting experience, as without sounding crude, but in the most fascinating experimentation in multiple focus connection, several Essences working together through the formation of one individual personality structure. Thus, her multi-faceted experiences, the depth of her journey into mysticism all translated through the venues of her time. It could not have been any other way, the times being as they were. Do you understand?

MARK: Yes. I have a question.

KRIS: Only one?

MARK: No, it’s a group thing. (Laughs) You say you were the source of her inspiration.

KRIS: One of them, yes.

MARK: One of the three that...

KRIS: Including Rosalie [Joanne] ....and several others.

MARK: The three of you were also the source of her being?

KRIS: Indeed. This does not invalidate Hildegard’s own unique individuality.

MARK: I understand that, now looking at this from a primary, secondary, tertiary [aligning with and belonging to], the three had more influence than the normal primary, secondary, tertiary? It’s almost like three primaries.

KRIS: Correct. Hildegard – and there have been many others throughout your human history – but Hildegard was a unique individual, still very prominent almost a thousand years after her passing. And a deeper exploration of her mysticism will reveal many tidbits that appear in our material. And if you but look for it, you will find it, even if it is veiled in religious terminology. It can be found. This is at Rosalie’s [Joanne’s] request since Rosalie has been able to communicate directly with the one you call Jo. Now Rosalie [Joanne] needs to also understand a few principles. This is the very beginnings of her communications with this energy exchange, and it will change form and shape. It will grow and expand as she allows it. Do you follow?

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: So that should be understood and allowances made for this progression as the boundaries and resistances dissolve, then more openings are allowed, more information and a transformation of the material will naturally evolve and mature, as it has to. That is its nature.” ~ Open Discussion, April 22, 2007

Joanne also had the opportunity to ask Kris additional questions on a recent visit to Toronto:

JO: “I guess I would just like to thank you for your [private] session with me last year. You were saying that there is this teacher aspect of myself and couldn’t tell me any more. Now I realize it was this Rose.

KRIS: Indeed and if you reflect upon the time that has passed since, you will remark that your events, however quiet or tumultuous....or should we say ‘Tumold-tuous’... have been most necessary in helping to settle the ground for some kind of foundation. And as you are discovering, these aspects of the multi-dimensional structure of being are still considered so foreign and strange that you react almost naturally with a kind of trepidation, as it should be.

You do want to establish a certain pattern of care, exploration, even to challenge what you are going through as a necessary procedure to clear the ground of any debris or of any unwanted seeds that can still settle in it. These seeds are usually considered to be doubt, fear, in some ways even a kind of shame, a shame related to going counter-culture. Do you understand that?

JO: Oh, very much, thank you. That’s a beautiful metaphor and I feel that that’s very much the process that I’m going through right now.

KRIS: Indeed. Do expect ups and downs, your own self-doubt to kick in once in a while, until you learn to accept that as part of your own thought processes and give them less and less attention. And consider that you do have a network of friends whom you can call upon simply to discourse. This kind of evolution in your human nature both is extremely ancient – it has been in your culture in different forms for a very long time in your terms – and yet it is ever so new.

Each time, EACH TIME an individual crosses that threshold, a new awakening for humankind takes place, whether it is in the classic channeling sense, whether you tap into your intuitive nature – however you wish to define it – thoughts, their intent, the very nature of the energy behind the thought and the intent, literally does spread like wildfire through the spectrum of human emotional nature. It influences growth. That is part of what you call your Shift, and the Shift does involve, in some ways, much shit hitting the fan!

(Group laughter)

JO: There is shit in shift, after all!

KRIS: Indeed! It is merely a matter of perspective.

PAUL: Shift happens.

KRIS: So all of you here – and do consider we are not saying this to flatter you, we would not demean your intelligence in that way – each of you when you explore this type of material, when you consider and appreciate the truly impactful nature of your presence and influence within the scope of material energy, you send out ripples, waves of influences.

Others are entirely free to enjoy the ride much like the surfer rides the crest of the wave. Others may simply watch it, and others are not interested, they are riding their own wave. But nonetheless you still influence the very construction of material nature. The universe is idea construction and it is good to be reminded of this every once in awhile. Therefore what is the nature of the ideas that you are toying with like a child and his alphabet blocks?

JO: Me in particular?

KRIS: All of you.

JO: Well, one idea that I think you probably agree with is the idea that everyone is a channeler, depending on the definition, and that there is a wonderful opportunity to be helping people connect with their interior selves and express it in exterior ways, which is generally how Rose has described it.

KRIS: Indeed. And the question is also rhetorical. You may simply ponder upon it. As for the term ‘channeling,’ it is an expression of transformation and each one of you, all 6.5 billion human beings on your planet, are involved in that action: you transform apparently non-physical energy into apparently physical energy. You transform it from one state to another....just as now you can transform clean shoes to muddy shoes!

PAUL: (Laughing) As we walk through a puddle of water!

JO: (Jokingly) Wow, that’s amazing how we just did that!

CATHY: Yeah, we walked through it, not on it.

KRIS: So do keep in mind that the channeling process is another kind of transformation of energy. The word ‘energy’ is extremely broad, but nonetheless, you understand the principle. It is a communication that needs to be translated through your own psychological fields, neurological processes, biological energies, and made physical for you and your present experimentations. You are also simultaneously involved in hundreds, if not thousands, of different kinds of transformative experiments, not only in this reality, but in many others. So do consider that you are always more than the sum of all of your parts. And we do know you understand how we utilize the word ‘parts.’ There is not an arm here and a leg there.

ELLEN: It just kind of occurred to me as you were talking about that, that everybody has these channeling possibilities, and what Emmy is exploring right now [with her World War II focus personality, Yosef], and how there’s these interconnections....the thought just came to me that there’s a possibility of a kind of a network of a group doing a kind of interconnected channeling.

KRIS: There are indeed. Even your present world population represents such an energy network creating your present civilization, as has been done before, as will continue to be done.

ELLEN: So telepathy, actually, is....

KRIS: Indeed, and within certain groups there are sub-groups, other divisions with slightly different experiments coming out of various intents, still interwoven within the global or more collective intent. Just like, you rarely ever go to the supermarket for one banana!

(Group laughs)

You usually go to the supermarket to get your week’s list of groceries, or at least more than one item. So you come into physical reality, in a manner of speaking, with many different projects in mind, and you engage those actions as best you can in line with your own value fulfillment.

ELLEN: It can be such a wonderful learning exploration, but also so much fun as well as...being healing of course, or being very therapeutic, also.

JO: It also seems to be about loosening up our own self-identity.

ELLEN: Oh, yeah.

JO: To be not as focused on us as focus personalities, but to embrace others as aspects of ourselves and other focuses and so on, that we’re actually widening our perspectives about who we are in the process.

KRIS: Indeed. As we have suggested over the last few weeks, you do fluctuate between the official and the unofficial lines of consciousness constantly and consistently and as you do so, you discover that were you NOT able to do so, your own personality structure would dry up in the same way that the stream would dry up were its source completely dammed up.

JO: No man is an island.

KRIS: And no woman, either.” ~ Kris Walk – Lotus Mind Weekend, June 08, 2007

Still, I take Kris’ advice with a grain of salt as well, and the bottom line is always the same, either Rose/Joanne will produce information that has utility and practical application or she won’t. The source is secondary in that regard, though of great interest to me personally, as I continue to be fascinated by the channeling phenomenon and its many, many different manifestations in people. We also hope to provide an accurate map of how things unfold for Rose/Joanne in the months and years ahead so that others may learn to use the same ability within their own intent, desires, and creative expressions.

(9) Paul’s note: Ron Churchman has been an important part of the Elias forum since the beginning. He engages an energy exchange with a “dear friend” of Elias’ through autotyping whose essence name is Patel and focus name is Paul.

For more information see: Digests: Paul (Patel).

(10) Paul’s note: Parapsychologist Jon Klimo wrote Channeling: Investigations on Receiving Information from Paranormal Sources (1998). It’s perfect for those who want a scientific approach to the wide spectrum channeling phenomena. Jon provides a clear historical overview that reaches back to the first recorded histories in the West. His book helps to demystify channeling as a human intelligence we all possess.

Elias presented a typology of for each of the nine essence family intents and how they engage energy exchanges. In summary:

  • Sumafi = spoken or written language.
  • Milumet = with mystical beings via altered states and dreams.
  • Gramada = within dream states and inspiration.
  • Vold = hearing voices.
  • Ilda = to promote “legends of encounters of unusual origin or unusual factors.”
  • Sumari = conventional psychic phenomenon (long list!).
  • Tumold = within energy exchanged through other physically focused individuals.
  • Zuli = within physical forms.
  • Borledim = with children (“invisible friends”).

For more information see: Digests: essence families; energy exchanges (Dream Walker interaction).

(11) Paul’s note: Joseph is the essence name given a participant in the early forum in Castaic, CA named Jo in the transcripts (not to be confused with Joanne Helfrich). I have yet to find the exact session where Elias says this, and will include it when it’s found, because it helps to clarify the subtle distinctions being made here.

(12) Paul’s note: Jo refers to our first private:

ELIAS: … This also is no accident that you draw yourselves to this forum presently within this present now, for this be the action that many of you are engaging presently; addressing to core belief systems, base issues, and attempting to move through these and therefore allow yourselves the opportunity and the ability to be accepting. This shall be accelerating. Therefore, you may be strapping yourself for the ride! (Grinning and we all laugh) [session 224, October 01, 1997]

(13) Paul’s note: Elias introduced the nine children of Rose as part of what I call his “messiah mythos,” since it deals with the Christian belief system of a messianic figure that returns to straighten things out on a global scale. However, in Elias’ version, he describes nine male children that represent the nine main essence family intents. All were born from roughly 1993 to 1997, according to Elias, so that would make them roughly ten to fourteen years old as of this writing.

For more information see: Digests: the nine children of the essence of Rose.

(14) Jo’s note: Here’s what Rose says about this subject, which to me is consonant with what Elias expresses:

ROSE: Your Elias provides an exchange with Rose, so your Mary, you would say, would, but not really. She would provide a filtered version of Rose as well: filtered, you see, through Elias. …No, there would not be a direct connection with Rose due to your way of finding her, for you would be considered a genuine article in your terms only, not in a worldwide sense. Your Rose would be channeled in your Rose’s terms in many ways, but she would not be in direct ways the Rose Elias has expressed. The Rose Elias has expressed exists only in your Elias’ problematic picture. We say problematic for your hierarchies indeed get in your way of understanding us. But we will say your Rose would be Elias’ Rose as long as she didn’t come through you. Rose would not be considered Elias’ Rose as long as she came through anyone but Mary….

We suggest you can think of Rose as a means for our Rose story to enfold your world. Your Rose is as good as Elias’ Rose. We are aware you are thinking what we will say: (humorously) your Rose can beat up Elias’ Rose as easily, as your Rose can be allowed to be beaten, but you are aware this is only a great joke.

JO: So I think I'm getting this. Just as someone else could provide an energy exchange with, say, Elias, and that Elias would be THEIR Elias, one dimension removed from that, Rose would operate in the same way….

ROSE: Your Rose is Elias’ Rose, but when she comes your way, she is not Elias’ anymore in a simplistic sense. She will be Elias’ Rose only as long as she doesn’t exchange energetically with anyone else but Mary. We will be saying more, as we suggest this sounds impossible in some ways to understand….

The Rose you have is Elias’ Rose only in your implicit ways, indeed not in explicit ways. Explicitly, only Mary can channel her Rose, which you would say would be Elias’ Rose…. So you were incorrect in your way of saying you would not be channeling Elias’ Rose, you are, but in expression it wouldn’t be Elias’ Rose anymore.

JO: I get that. Rose is a kind of well that gets colored when exchanges happen, and is colored by intent…

ROSE: Yes, that is a very good example. You would consider your Rose also as a well you can drink from at anytime, and your words would be colored by your engagement of your Rose selves. So you can think of Rose as being a great big well of fundamental energies that expresses herself in ways that enrich individuals in many ways, that would be interested in ways they would best put their energies to use.

The Rose self is indeed an energetic field, not an individual, so your Rose will come through in a variety of ways: energetically, creatively, artistically, in ways you can imply would be innumerable. So you can say she is a big body of water, an ocean to drink from that will be as valued, as we suggest your water in your wells would be. We suggest she is so vast to imply your infinity, for she is Rose of your way of spirit, as well as sometimes infinite numbers of individuals in your world. For she is indeed earthbound in our terms, so she indeed allows interest in or physical dimensions in ways she cannot possibly describe. [session 137, September 17, 2007]

(15) Jo’s note: When we moved to Castaic, CA in 1998 we proceeded to work on the Elias book and website, which required editorial guidelines for assuring least distortion of Elias’ words. This was challenging due to sensitivity around “least distortion,” which was understandable. But at one point, my family alignments (Ilda/Borledim) were questioned, and because “I wasn’t Sumafi” there was doubt about my ability to portray Elias’ words accurately. My response was, “But I am Sumafi,” because as Elias said early on that we each have characteristics of all the families in different degrees.

ELIAS: You may exchange these individual words within all of your essence families, and each word will apply equally to each family. I may incorporate the word spiritualist to each essence family, and it will be correct. I may apply healing or communication, and it will be correct in referring to each essence family. As to an understanding within your accepted definitions and belief systems, I have offered definitions to you, and explanations of your essence families, so that you may connect with and understand more easily why your desires manifest within the direction that they do. [session 91, May 01, 1996]

So this was just my way of intuiting how my own Sumilda intentions would play out some day through this energy exchange with Rose.

(16) Paul’s note: Jo refers the first group sessions we had with Elias during the 1997 Sethnet Int’l Elmira conference in Room 106 where he first gave her essence family alignment (Borledim) and belonging to (Ilda), and answered Jo’s question about being infertile.

JO: I have another question about the alignment from the other family ... I don’t know how to pronounce it ... Borledim?

ELIAS: Borledim. (Correcting pronunciation)

JO: It seems to be a family of breeders. I seem to be infertile so far, in this reality! (Laughter)

ELIAS: This is a very limited explanation!

JO: I understand that, and you warned me about that, and I know that there of course are interpretations. I think that might be a good starting point for understanding the alignments of the families.

ELIAS: We have been offered within this forum an example of another individual which is aligned with this family of Borledim which also physically manifests in this same manner, of inability to produce stock. Therefore, do not confuse yourself that you must be bearing twelve children (laughter) to be aligned with this family! Many, many actions occur between these families and within these families. Within the intent, energy is distributed by individuals that do not bear for the accomplishment of bearing within others.

Also, it is not limited to the bearing of young. There is much more involved within this intent of this family. It does not only center upon breeding. It centers quite heavily upon the quality of the stock – the education and the nurturing, the acknowledgment of the magnificence of each individual within their creation and their being. This is more to do with the focus of these individuals aligning with this family, whom hold great affection and connection to small ones regardless of their ability to produce them physically.

I shall explain to you also: Within the action of manifestation, you do not choose your child. The entering focus chooses all. The entering focus chooses its parentage, its family, its genetics, its heritage, its alignment. It manipulates all energy to be creating of the physical focus – every molecule, every atom, even each egg and sperm that shall meet. This is the choice of the entering focus. As you have allowed yourself also this experience in allowing yourself birth, you also allow for different experience in accepting this manifestation and the choices of another focus. Your only agreement within this is to be bearing of this child.

Therefore, some of your stories within your history that you read biblically are not fantasy or mythology but reality, that individuals may produce at ages far beyond those that you believe are physically possible. This is not to say that you have chosen this probability. I am only suggesting elements that you may not hold awareness of presently which are also reality. Be remembering the tremendous influence within energy and consciousness that these individuals aligning with this family of Borledim contribute to the manifestations of all of your earth stock, not only those that they individually bear. You may be contributing to all these small ones about you, regardless of your physical production of them. (Smiling)

JO: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. [session 186, June 22, 1997]

(17) Paul’s note: though I didn’t mention it, Jo’s comment reminded me of a similar yet subtle prognostication Elias made during a private session in 1999 that hinted of rosy things to come down the road, though at that time I was wrestling with personal issues, the newness of Elias’ information, and having moved so far away from home. So I asked Elias if I was experiencing what he calls trauma of the shift in consciousness, and he said very tenderly and reassuringly:

ELIAS: In part, yes, you each are incorporating an element of this within yourselves and you are experiencing your individual elements of trauma, and as these expressions are collectively experienced also, you may view the incorporation of mass events that incorporate trauma, but this all springs from the individual trauma which is being experienced.

In this, I offer to you much energy, much encouragement, and much acknowledgment, that you may be recognizing that this also is temporary and that you hold choices to be moving through this trauma and incorporating a new expression of joyfulness in a manner that you have not experienced within this focus yet, but shall be experienced in fullness and in intensity, and you hold the ability to be creating of this! It is merely a choice. [session 455, August 25, 1999]

I highlighted “but shall be experience in fullness and in intensity” to show the part that really struck me when first delivered, in that I sensed Elias was “seeing” probable futures that sounded quite joyous. This development with Joanne and Rose is certainly that!

Digests – see also: | accepting self | alternate selves | aspects of essence; an overview | “before the beginning” | belief systems; an overview | choices/agreements | the city | Creating Universal One And Whole/all of consciousness | dimension | dispersed essence | Dream Walkers; an overview | duplicity | energy exchanges; Elias, Paul (Patel) | energy fields | energy signatures | elements of essence (emotional, political, religious, thought) | essence; an overview | essence tones | essence families; an overview | essence families; belonging to/aligning with | essence families; intents | focus of essence; an overview | fear | forum | fragmentation | game | imagery | information | inner senses; an overview | inner senses; conceptualization | inner senses; empathic | intents | manifestation | mass events | mergence | noticing self | objective/subjective awareness | out-of-body experiences | probabilities | prophecy | pyramid focuses | Regional Areas of consciousness; an overview | Regional Area 3 | religious era | Rose; the nine children of | Seth/Jane Roberts | shift in consciousness | trauma of the shift | time frameworks | truth | twin focuses | widening awareness |

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