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Regional Area 3 (RA3)

Elias “gems”

ELIAS: “Continuation of subject matter; we will be introducing Source or Master Events this evening. I will express to you first, there is a difference, within consciousness, as to Regional Area 2 and Regional Area 3. At our last interaction, we were discussing collective consciousness incorporated within Regional Area 2. I have expressed previously that the area of collective consciousness is Regional Area 3, therefore I am understanding that you may incorporate some confusion.

Within Regional Area 2, all physically focused consciousness, collectively and individually, is originating. All of your manifestation that is created in Regional Area 1 originates within Regional Area 2; therefore collectively, within consciousness, your mass events also originate within this area of consciousness.

Within the area of consciousness of Regional Area 3, there is a distinction. I have expressed previously that this area incorporates transition. It also incorporates collective consciousness, but in different terms. We have spoken of world views of consciousness; energy of consciousness deposited as within a ‘consciousness library.’ This would be in the area of Regional Area 3. My transmission, so to speak, to you passes through Regional Area 3, and is translated to you into this area of consciousness of Regional Area 1.

(To Jeff) I am understanding of your confusion. These individuals may be helpful in explanation as to the definition of these Regional Areas of consciousness. It is only a term that I incorporate for the purpose of explanation of areas of wider awarenesses.

(To group) Regional Area 3 incorporates non-physically focused consciousness interacting with physical focus; not in creation into this focus, but within interaction in consciousness, the connection is made in this area of consciousness. It is a wider awareness; what you would term to be your ‘next step outward,’ what I would term to be your ‘next step inward’ (smiling) within consciousness.” [session 85, April 10, 1996]

ELIAS: “As to thought processes within Regional Area 3, this is ... shall we say confined to individuals within the action of transition, for there are other actions within this area of consciousness that are not transition, in which thought as being an objective creation would not be incorporated. Therefore, essences focused within Regional Area 3, within connection to physical focus in their intent and desire, as you have witnessed, do not incorporate thought processes. This a limitation to transition action.” [session 139, December 12, 1996]

ELIAS: “There are different areas of consciousness. These are related to attention. All of consciousness is all of consciousness. It is all the same. There are no planes. There are no levels. There are no better or higher places within consciousness. All is the same. There are different focuses of attention. In this, there are created what we term as areas of consciousness. These are not places. These are not things. They are not space. There are no sections of space that are designated as areas of consciousness. They are directions of attention. In this, they are also influenced by intent. Each essence occupies all areas of consciousness.” [session 157, March 09, 1997]

Elias “gems”

CATHY: “Okay. How about some more information on Regional Area 3?

ELIAS: (Grinning at Cathy) In which direction would you be wishing to move into Regional Area 3?

CATHY: I didn’t know I had an option of directions. All I know is that it’s a transition place. I can’t remember much more than that, at this particular second.

ELIAS: And you are wishing information of transition? (Grinning)

CATHY: Sure!

ELIAS: (Grinning at Vicki) We may write a book on this subject! Transition may be a manifestation, within non-physical focus, of anything that you believe. (Pause) That was quite good! Very concise and to the point! (To Vicki) Write this down! (Pause)

CATHY: I’m sure you have a question, Vic. Come on, go!

VICKI: Well, my question about Regional Area 3; I was curious. It came up the other night when we put our little pieces of paper into the bowl, and I was so intent on everybody focusing, and Shynla’s [Cathy’s] little piece of paper just happened to have that on there, and I know that you’ve mentioned this has to do with our collective consciousness, so to speak?

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And I just think that maybe these four individuals, with this pyramid ‘thingy,’ (laughter) are probably doing some kind of connecting in Regional Area three, and I’m a little curious in that direction. (Great formulation of a question, Vic! Not!)

ELIAS: This is also correct, incorporated with other essences. I will express to you that Regional Area 3, with its incorporation of a collective consciousness, is much greater than our small group.

The collective consciousness is the whole of the physically focused consciousness. This incorporates your entire globe. Therefore, tapping information of this Regional Area would be advantageous, if you incorporate a political-focus ... or not! (Grinning) All of you are ultimately connected. We have spoken of this previously. All of you are involved with all other individuals upon your planet, and all of their experiences. This is the area to which you connect with all of these individuals.” [session 64, January 03, 1996]

ELIAS: “As to your questioning of scientists or mathematicians occupying any area of consciousness non-physical, I express to you that scientists or mathematicians are relative to physical focus. Therefore, there are areas of consciousness that may hold deposits which have been designated as world views. These are areas of consciousness; concentrations of impression upon consciousness that are available to all to be drawn upon; information and knowledge in what you may think of as ‘stored’ within areas of consciousness, although they are not archives! They are flowing action of energy which may be accessed by any individual within physical focus.

Each physical focus holds its own relative science, in your terms. Not all physical focuses use this word, for they each hold their own individual language; but within your terms and language, each different area of physical focus or dimension holds their own concept of science and mathematics, or an equivalent of these. Therefore, each is relative only to their individual physical focus. These are languages that you have created for your own explanations within physical focus. Mathematics is relative to this Earth focus; this particular dimension. Within another dimension and physical focus, this concept, this language, holds no meaning. It holds meaning to you, for you have created this as a language. Scientists use mathematics as a language, for this is what it is.

NORM: The scientists and mathematicians in this focus have attempted to explain, and not very well, the true reality. I agree that it’s a long way away from the true reality of this focus or Region 1, but we are attempting to understand the operation. Because of the operation of this physical focus, we’ve developed a technology. One of the questions would be, has the technology that we’ve developed here in this physical focus helped our species? But then, is there also a curiosity in Region 3 about the operation of how the physics of operation of Region 3 operates? And so there are two questions here. Has our mathematics and physics and engineering technology helped the species here in Region 1, and wouldn’t there be an equivalent that would help in Region 3 also?

ELIAS: As to your initial question, your technology has benefited your species. You always benefit your species!

You create continuously. You view this in terms of progress. You view this in terms of linear movement, as learning and growing and moving forward. I express to you that this movement is an allowance of more of your creative abilities. As you widen your awareness of self and of consciousness and of All-That-Is (1), you also become more creative within your expressions. Therefore, you express more, and you express more creatively. This is not to say that you expressed inefficiently within different eras. You express efficiently within each given era. You choose certain experiences which you, within your linear time frame, may look at and see a history.

You, within your perception, may look to your past, so to speak, and you may make sense of your progress, for you may follow a progressive learning pattern of development. In actuality, this is not the physics or mechanics of what you create; although partially it is, for it is your creation! You have created this method quite efficiently; but within other terms, each century creates its own focus and its own inventions, so to speak, in accordance with its intent and desire.

Therefore, you may also look to your history linearly, and you may find inconsistencies. You do not view these, for you eliminate this from your thought process. Those elements that do not agree with your thought process linearly and historically are eliminated. Therefore, you block this information. If you are realistically looking at your history, you may find time periods, centuries, in which your achievements, in your terms, are equally great to those of your present time. You may view certain time periods of certain achievements that surpass present-day achievements, even with all of your technology!

NORM: ... Getting back to Region 3 and the operation of Region 3, it’s been stated that nobody knows everything, and everybody is using their creativity and their action to try to understand whatever region they are in. That is a true statement; that everybody, no matter what region they are in, they always have a problem understanding the operation of that region?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is dependent upon their desire and intent. Many individuals move through individual focuses non-questioning.

NORM: So they don’t need to know the answers.

ELIAS: Some individuals question, some do not. It also is dependent upon your manifestation. There are many elements that you may consider to be involved within the reasoning of this action of which you speak, but it is not necessary that every individual questions the area of consciousness that they occupy. It also is not the case that all individuals question. Some individuals question.

As to your questioning of Regional Area 3, this is an area of consciousness of transition. There are other actions that occupy this area of consciousness also, but within your understanding and your awareness of action, you may be more closely aligned with the notions of the action of transition for this area of consciousness.

As to the idea of the mechanics of this area of consciousness, or the physics of this area, or the mathematics, or method (pause, grinning) …

NORM: Operation.

ELIAS: … of this area of consciousness, you are thinking in terms of physical focus. You are attempting to reach into another area of consciousness, and translate the action of that area of consciousness into this area of consciousness; which, they are different actions. They are different languages. There are some translations, but these translations also, in some elements, hold distortions; for you automatically translate into terms that you understand.

NORM: I’m looking at group analogies here, group characteristics of operations in Region 3 and Region 1. The operations there could be entirely different, but there still could be a characteristic of those that could be the same. I’m just trying to tie it together in terms that I’m aware of.

ELIAS: This is correct. All areas of consciousness translate, although you may not understand the translation, for they are all connected and intertwined. There are actions that occur within Regional Area 3 that are connected with this Regional Area 1.

NORM: But they’re also connected ...

RETA: Let me ask a question. If you say Area 3, Region 3, is more or less for transition, then what is Region 4?

NORM: Transition to what, is really the question.

RETA: No, transition is ...

NORM: It’s a transition to what ...

ELIAS: (Interrupting) This area of [Regional Area] 4 is the area of consciousness that Elias occupies.

RETA: There you go! I understand that.

NORM: It’s Region 3.

RETA: No, 4. Transition meaning from life to death? Change?

ELIAS: Correct.

RETA: Transition is 3 where you change, and 4 is where Elias is. I had that one right.

NORM: Oh, I see. Okay.

RETA: How about 5? Or 6? Am I going too far? (Elias is grinning)

NORM: It goes on and on. Is that true?

ELIAS: Infinite.

NORM: And Mary, as Michael, is a facilitator of your communication from Region 3 and 4 to Region 1. Then there would be somebody in your region that can communicate to Region 5 and 6, like Michael [Mary] is doing here?

ELIAS: There are many differences. There is not the thickness within these areas of consciousness that you hold within your time element within physical focus. You not only hold your time element or dimension, but you also hold your singularity; and in this, you create a thickness of consciousness. Within other non-physical areas of consciousness, this thickness is not a concern. Therefore, it is unnecessary for a medium for crossing over other areas of consciousness. I presently am focused within many areas of consciousness.

NORM: I’ve wanted to develop a lot of capabilities, and I always felt that one of the capabilities that I should do is to be able to be like a medium, because when I get up in Region 3 or Region 4 or wherever, I should have that capability there too, and I want to prepare myself to do that, but evidently it’s going to be easier to do it if I get there.

RETA: Once you get there.

NORM: Once I get there, or whatever.

ELIAS: I shall express ... the term of ‘easier’ may be misleading! (Laughter) It shall be different.

NORM: It shall be different, but you’ll have the experience and the confidence that you can do it. That helps, to have that experience.

ELIAS: This being the reason that you engage Elias presently; for your desire in accomplishing the action of transition, and also an action of engaging the shift within this physical focus; therefore preparing yourself previous to what you think of as departure from physical focus.

... You engage the action of what you term to be out-of-body experiences within waking state, within sleeping state, consciously, unconsciously, in your terms, within altered states, in your terms. You may experience out-of-body action, so to speak, within what you term to be a daydream. Within missing time, as you experience, you are experiencing an out-of-body. You experience this action much of your time. You are not aware objectively of this action, for you do not translate into your objective language the action that you are engaged in.

As to your thinking while you are engaged in this action of out-of-body; the action of physical thought is quite valuable if you may train yourself to be consciously, objectively consciously, aware within the action of out-of-body experience. Thought processes are a creation of physical focus. You think in terms of language, which is symbolic. Thoughts, within physical focus, are symbolic energy. They are symbols. They are a language. Therefore, it would be helpful to you if you allowed yourselves to train your objective consciousness, your thought processes, to mingle with your subjective activity and create an efficient language for translation of subjective activity into objective knowing. You do not remember your experiences out-of-body, for you have not created this language to be translating subjective activity. Therefore, you have no frame of reference within your objective, waking state. You then are left with ‘blank space.’

NORM: Not even feelings or intuition.

ELIAS: You are attempting to translate non-physical, subjective consciousness action into objective consciousness; this being the same as what you expressed earlier within the action of Regional Area 3, and wishing to know the mechanics of this area of consciousness. You are attempting to label experiences which do not fit within this area of consciousness. Therefore, they must be translated. All that you view is a translation. All that you think is a translation. Within other areas of consciousness, thought is not what you ‘think!’” [session 135, November 24, 1996]

ELIAS: “Some of you have chosen the action of transition within this physical focus, intending to not be remanifesting physically. Others are choosing remanifestation, but the action of your shift in many respects is very similar to the action of transition. Therefore, we shall concentrate upon Regional Area 3 and the action that transpires within this area of consciousness, for your further understanding.

Those of you who have chosen to be not remanifesting within physical focus and have chosen this particular focus as what we have designated as your final physical manifestation are already beginning to be experiencing elements of transition. Those of you who are choosing to be remanifesting are beginning to recognize more unofficial information in conjunction with your shift.

The subject of transition is lengthy and complicated. It is also quite individual within the actualization and movement. There are some commonalities that we may discuss that individuals may experience, although even within these there are variances; for each focus experiences different elements and events within transition.

NORM: ... In my dreams, in my unconscious or that action of my consciousness, can I not go into transition, Regional Area 3?

ELIAS: The action of transition is consuming of the entirety of your focus. It is not limited to only your dream state. It is a complete engagement of belief systems while physically focused. It is also a mergence of subjective and objective consciousness. In this, you engage belief systems. Subjective activity appears different from objective activity. Objective activity is imagery of subjective activity. It also is a translation. The translation deals with a different type of information. It deals with sensory information. Subjective activity does not engage sensory information. Therefore, as this bleeds through to your objective awareness, it is unfamiliar. It seems different. At times, it seems untranslatable. Therefore, you become confused, for you do not understand any longer your experiences.

NORM: Can you not just record it and attempt to integrate it later? I had a dream like that the other night. I was trying to see if I could confuse myself, I think. I was looking at five unique characters that were made up of unusual objects, like one of them had a wine glass for a head. I was communicating with it, I believe. It was one of those things that I’ll attempt to explain later. Maybe not completely now, but later.

ELIAS: This is what you may classify as the opposite action, of objective consciousness bleeding through into subjective activity, which you are offering yourself [as] an objective perception. Within the action of transition, you may choose to be engaging transition within physical focus or you may choose to be engaging transition within non-physical focus.

It is not a case of ‘I shall place this experience on hold and evaluate later.’ It is an action of spontaneously experiencing. You have chosen this. If you wish not to be engaging this action, you shall not choose this; although as I have stated, even those of you not choosing to be engaging transition within physical focus, as a final manifestation or otherwise, will still engage the action of the shift, which is quite similar to those aspects of transition that you experience within physical focus.

NORM: I guess I cannot substitute senility for a dream reality.


NORM: I’m not clever enough to do what people do in the senility disease.

ELIAS: You may choose to be manifesting within this mass belief system and create senility. Within this forum, the objective is to be creating of this action without engaging senility.

NORM: But dreams don’t necessarily help.

ELIAS: They are quite helpful, but they are not the entirety.” [session 158, March 16, 1997]

ELIAS: “You hold much more awareness and knowledge than you THINK you hold. You are continually tapping into what I have termed to be Regional Area 3 of consciousness, which is a collective conscious. In this collective, you may access very much information and you may cross dimensions to be accessing information.

In this crossing of dimensions, you allow yourselves as individuals and as cultures to be connecting with other cultures and other individuals within your dimension and expressing yourselves in like kind. This offers you an objective connection that you may objectively view, that no matter that you be upon what you term to be opposite sides of your planet or that you do not hold communication within the technology that you hold in this present now, you continue to be connected and not separated within consciousness, and you continue to offer each other information and the confirmation of this through your objective expressions.” [session 280, May 14, 1998]

ELIAS: “There are many aspects to Regional Area 3. This one of the collective consciousness holds significance in offering you many answers to questions that you have held for much time period, and also may be helpful in your understanding of certain elements of this shift in consciousness.

You have been offered prophecies previously, and you have also gathered information of all different types which also lend to certain prophecies and create many of your myths. The information that is connected to is that information which is within Regional Area 3. Individuals tap into this information quite often, but in translating the information that they tap into within Regional Area 3, they also create interpretations and speculations as to the meaning of this information. Therefore, they create your myths to be fitting this information into your particular dimension and creating some sort of reasonable explanations for imagery that they do not understand. This may be viewed in many different aspects.

Some individuals tap into this area of consciousness and receive information not pertaining to this particular dimension. Therefore, you have created situations of individuals espousing upon the connections between yourselves and beings within other dimensions. You have also created myths in the areas of your mythology partially, and in areas of Atlantis, which also do not belong in this particular dimension, but parallel enough that the information is formed to fit into this dimension, and therefore creating of myths.

This information which is tapped through Regional Area 3 also creates a situation for prophecies. There are many prophecies that are being espoused on presently in conjunction with your new millennium.

As your century turns, so to speak, you look to all types of signs of a new age. You look to prophecies of elements which have been stated, that there is the possibility or the probability for many actions to be occurring. These may be destructive actions or they may be what you term to be positive actions. Either direction matters not, in one respect. In the respect that it is all information that is being gathered from Regional Area 3 and is not necessarily information that may be connected to your particular dimension, this would be the information in itself mattering not, but in gathering such information and sharing objectively this information and the interpretations of the information which then become distortions, there is much energy lent to these myths, which become prophecies. In this, the energy lent to them creates the possibility for probabilities. In this, the information which is tapped and inserted into your dimension begins to matter, for it may be altering of your reality in directions that you may not necessarily choose to have be accomplished.

In this, you may look to many different types of information which has been tapped through Regional Area 3. Presently, individuals occupy themselves with much attention in the areas of all of your pyramids upon your planet and all of the cultures that have surrounded those structures, these being in your Egyptian cultures and also in your Central and South American cultures, for they bear similarities to each other. The reason that they bear similarities to each other is that they have been created through tapping information within Regional Area 3.

You are all connected through this tissue of consciousness, which you may all tap into and you all share. I have stated many times to you that one individual in one location of your planet may be experiencing one action, and another individual halfway round your globe may be experiencing the identical same action in connection with the first individual. Your sciences demonstrate this also with the behavior of your atoms and your electrons. Your photons behave in similar manners. It matters not their physical location, for their communication is instantaneous. It is not a communication in the manner that one is expressed and another received. It is an instantaneous knowing of the same information.

In like manner, you all as individuals within this dimension create the same action, and then you marvel at yourselves that you may be creating of quite similar expressions and expressing to yourselves that you hold no objective knowledge of other cultures which create the same expressions, and this becomes a wonderment to you! As I have stated, the reason that these elements are created so very similarly is that you are all tapping into the same storehouse, so to speak, of information and sharing this information. Not only do you create physically similar structures, but your cultures develop in similar manners.

Now; the reason this information holds importance is that I wish you to be recognizing that information tapped through Regional Area 3 is not always in conjunction with your particular dimension. Therefore, there is a vast area that may be distorted in this. In this situation, you shall be viewing futurely many areas of distortion. As individuals move more actively into the action of this shift in consciousness and begin to open to their awareness, they shall also allow more of a flow of information, which flows through Regional Area 3. In this, there shall also be many interpretations of the information which is tapped. This has already begun.

You may look about you and be listening to other individuals and they shall be expressing of great movements which shall be occurring, in their interpretation, in connection with ancient civilizations. You may observe situations that shall be expressed, such as prophecies of Mayan civilizations that shall be occurring futurely, alignments with certain cultures, new powerful energy sources that may be being produced within the area of your Arabic countries holding the great pyramids. What is occurring in these actions is that individuals are opening their awareness, and in this they are also connecting with information which is held within Regional Area 3. But, not holding the information of WHAT they are tapping, they view themselves to be receiving revelations, and in these revelations they are expounding on these and offering their own interpretations, which many other individuals subsequently collectively join in agreement to these speculations and interpretations. This creates a situation not only of distortion, but of lending energy to those distortions.

(Intently) The more energy which is lent in the direction of these distortions, the more those distortions move into the area of potentiality for actualization of probabilities. Therefore, it is important that individuals be offered information and allow themselves the opportunity to recognize their interpretations through their belief systems of what they speculate to be true, for not all of the information that they may be receiving in their revelations is relative to this particular dimension.

You may offer yourselves many examples of this throughout your history and upon your bookshelves presently. You may account for many such instances in which individuals have tapped information which is not relative to your particular dimension, but has been made to fit in a manner which is being accepted. This becomes dangerous in that your objective is to be creating the least amount of trauma in this shift in consciousness, and with the influx of information there may be much confusion within the distortion, and therefore there may be trauma as individuals are swayed into distraction and not necessarily paying attention to the actual shift in consciousness itself, but awaiting strange developments which may not be occurring, for they are not relative to this dimension. (All very deliberately) Or, you may be creating of certain actions which are less desirable, as you have lent them much energy in creating new belief systems based upon the speculations and interpretations of information from Regional Area 3 that does not belong in your particular dimension.

Now; the area that this becomes quite confusing is that Regional Area 3 also provides much information which IS pertaining to your particular dimension. There are many aspects of information which to this present now have been ignored, so to speak, which are validating of the information which I offer to you and other teachers have offered to you previously.

We speak of nine essence families. Within your ancient cultures that you look to for prophecies presently, there are also mentionings of nine ‘masters’ or nine ‘guides,’ nine ‘spirits of night.’ These are the hidden elements, so to speak, within the information which is contained within Regional Area 3 which also has been tapped, but does not provide the sensationalism or the drama that may be provided to you in ideas of famine and earthquakes. Therefore, you pay little attention to these aspects of connective tissue, but you magnate to the elements of distortion and lend energy to these distorting factors, which then, as I have stated, creates the potentiality for creating probabilities in these areas. (Ten-second pause)

Shall you be little mice once again? (Grinning, and laughter) I am so captivating, am I not? (Chuckling) And I may drone on all evening to your waiting little ears, and you shall hang upon every word, shall you not?? (A slightly ‘evil’ chuckle here)

DAVID: Are you open for questions now?

ELIAS: You may.

JO: I have a question about what you were just talking about. There was some imagery that came up that had to do with biblical imagery that had to do with Rose imagery, and I’m wondering if this is another example of what you described earlier about ...

ELIAS: Many individuals within this time period are connecting with imagery of Rose. Some individuals are connecting with this imagery in physical aspects with the plant or the flower that you term to be rose, and they may be interpreting this as objective imagery in awareness of the movement of this shift.

At times, when there are ‘surge movements,’ so to speak, individuals shall be presenting themselves with more objective imagery of Rose, for this is the reminder objectively to you of this action of the shift. Therefore, at times you may view yourselves to be paying little attention to any imagery in connection with Rose, and then you may view that you involve yourself within a time framework of presenting yourselves with imagery continuously of Rose, and this would be an indication to you that there is an energy surge occurring in conjunction with this shift.

JO: Thank you. With regard to biblical prophecy and Rose imagery, is this an example of a myth that is formed that is of the more accurate variety, as information from Regional Area 3?

ELIAS: This also be my meaning, that many prophecies shall be surfacing, so to speak, presently and within your near future time frameworks from all different areas. Different mythologies, different philosophies, and also your religions shall all be surfacing within their prophecies, and this may be confusing to you if you are allowing yourselves to move into the direction of correlating all of these prophecies too closely with your shift in consciousness. There are some aspects of these prophecies or myths that are in correlation with this shift in consciousness, but the most overt prophecies are not. These have been selected, so to speak – tapped into by individuals within many different time frameworks within this particular dimension – and interpreted in conjunction with the mythology or the religion or the philosophy and made to fit. Therefore, they appear to you as plausible and you may be accepting of these, therefore lending energy to these, and in that lending energy to the potentiality of creating the probability of their actualization.

This is the manner that your fulfilled prophecies occur. There is enough energy lent to that which has been projected, and in that the energy has created the potentiality for creating a probability, and as more energy is lent in that direction, it becomes no longer a potentiality but an actual probability, and as more energy is lent, it then becomes an actualization within your dimension.

As I have stated, you create the probabilities within the moment, not before you. Therefore, the prophecies merely create the potentiality for the probability and its creation, but I wish you to understand that looking to other time frameworks and elements which have been set forth within the dawn of your Christianity, these may be quite distorting and confusing to you. Therefore, I express to you to be watchful as to HOW you are lending your energy.

PAUL: Does this work for all prophecy then? Are you saying that all prophecy, as it manifests in our probable realities here, that it contains the potential first, or primarily?

ELIAS: Correct. Precognition also filters through Regional Area 3, although this is an action of tapping into one very precise event, and for the most part, tapping this type of information, in your terms, holds a very limited time framework. You do not tap into precognitive information or what you think of as precognitive information in extended time frameworks, but short or limited time frameworks, which is different from prophesying.

PAUL: So someone like Nostradamus ... I’m just trying to think of his work that he did and seeing things. I’m not an expert on gauging the accuracy, but my question is about accuracy and what would be helpful for individuals who are tapping into this information to think of in terms of accuracy. That may not be the right question, but how is someone like Nostradamus seemingly so accurate, or was he not? Did he have great distortion also, in your terms?

ELIAS: This be the area that you hold such confusion. You look to an individual which has tapped information within Regional Area 3. Now; to your thinking, you THINK that this individual holds this information, and therefore this also is truth. He is creating of predictions, and in this, as you view that these predictions materialize, you credit the individual with having held the information and therefore having been the catalyst for the creation of these probabilities. In actuality, the individual merely taps information and then interprets the information into your objective reality, which may be extreme distortions, but they provide you with an objective explanation of the vision in terms that you may be accepting, and in this the collective lends energy to the actualization of that very speculation which has been set forth.

This be the reason that I offer you this information and caution you to be aware of what information you are lending energy to, for you have many examples of prophecies that you collectively HAVE actualized. Those prophecies were not set forth as a probability before you, and that you merely awaited its occurrence as an inevitable action. Those prophecies are set forth as an interpretation by an individual of information that has been tapped within Regional Area 3 which may not necessarily be relative to your particular dimension, but within the interpretation and within the lending of energy – the acceptance of the interpretation and the lending of energy to this interpretation – you then create the actualization.

You collectively are creating the actualization. The element was not existing previously and you were merely awaiting its materialization. You are creating of it as you are lending energy in the acceptance of what is set forth.

PAUL: So just to use a Nostradamus example, there was a famous prediction he made in his time about King Henry II, who would have a jousting accident and would pass away that way, and that came to manifest. So in the way that you’re explaining it to us, is that an example of him tuning into a potential, putting it out there, and Henry, in his probable present moment, choosing to manifest that in the collective for all the political and mass event ramifications that the death of a king would have? Is that an example of the collective manifesting a prophecy? The follow-up question is, was that a distortion of an other-dimensional thing, or is that an example of where Nostradamus did tune into something that he didn’t distort as much, in terms of it relating to this dimension?

ELIAS: You may use this as a very good example. The information – the impression and the visualization – which was tapped by Regional Area 3 was not of the king, but of certain objects which were unfamiliar within the visualization, and the translation of the objects and the action of these objects was set forth in an interpretation of the closest possible physical manifestation of similar objects. In this, the individual of Nostradamus creates an interpretation; views that this must be what this vision is expressing. This interpretation is directly influenced by the known elements of the individual’s reality and their held belief systems. Now in this, as this is set forth to the masses, the energy is lent in the direction that the individuals lean towards; what they are choosing for the creation. Therefore, it is influencing in energy of the probabilities, which then become actualized. Now in this also, the individual acting out the probability is also a participant, for the individual themself also is influenced by the belief system and the strength of the energy.

You may express this also in other terms. You all presently occupy a location which has developed a reputation for shaking Earth. You have been offered information and explanation as to the creation of this and how you are creating of this. An individual may be projecting and prophesying that you may be creating of one of your earthquakes, and if lent enough energy by the collective which occupies this area, you may manifest and actualize this probability, which was a prophecy with merely the potential to be a probability but not actualized, and an individual may express that certain individuals may be disengaging in the action of this earthquake. The individual may prophesy that a specific location may be more involved with this earthquake than another location and that this shall cause great damage and loss of life, so to speak. In lending energy to this prophecy, you collectively may create this, and those individuals which shall be affected in loss of life, so to speak, are also participants in accepting the belief of the prophecy, and also themselves lending energy to its creation. Therefore, they are not victims and the collective has not created their reality for them, but they are active participants in creating the whole of the reality, even to the point of their disengagement.

VICKI: So basically, are you saying that a fascination with a prophecy, whether it’s a biblical prophecy or an other-dimensional reality like Atlantis or the myth of the destruction of Atlantis, a fascination with those things can be affecting of actualizing those types of probabilities here?

ELIAS: Correct. In focusing much attention in these areas, you are distracting yourselves from the action of your shift and the lessening of trauma in this shift, and focusing upon elements which you have created within your mythologies and your prophecies, and in that you are lending energy to the potentiality of the creation of the probabilities.

BOBBI: Considering that these prophecies are so talked about and widely known, is just being what you term ‘a good little sapling’ (2) enough? Is the interconnectedness of all consciousness just doing that, is that enough to deflect or sort of neutralize those probabilities?

ELIAS: Your objective and your subjective work within harmony. If it be merely enough to be subjectively lending energy and offering information, I would not be speaking with you. But it is also important that you hold an objective awareness of the actions of this shift, that there may be individuals that may be offering information to other individuals, as a tree branching out continuously.

I offer the information to you in continuation of information that has already been offered to you, that you may also be offering information to other individuals, and in this you may be helpful in the lessening of trauma within this shift, and also, in a manner of speaking, deflecting that energy which is lent in the direction of the potentiality of the probabilities for trauma.” [session 281, May 17, 1998]

MICHAEL: “I asked something of the dead, and I was wondering if they heard me.

ELIAS: Let me express to you: first of all, in response to your question, yes. But also let me continue with this answer, that you may hold more clarity. As you speak of the dead, these are focuses of essences that have merely emerged from physical focus into another area of consciousness, but in terms of reality are very much alive!

In this, many individuals communicate to individual focuses or groupings of focuses, that which you term to be persons. I express the terminology of focus. Many individuals pray, many individuals speak, many individuals communicate with these focuses, these other individuals that they perceive to be in some ‘beyond.’ In actuality, if you are focusing your attention within the belief systems of death and are expressing to focuses ... or the dead, for within belief systems this indicates individuals that have lived physically manifest and have died. Therefore, it is a classification, and in actuality, what you are speaking to are those focuses which occupy an area which is termed to be transition.

Now; individuals occupying an area of consciousness of transition and engaging the action of transition non-physically shall hear you, so to speak, but shall also for the most part not concern themselves with one individual focus, for they occupy the area of transition in which all of their focuses are occurring simultaneously objectively before them, and in this their action is to be shedding all of their belief systems which have been held within physical focus, and to also be moving away and shedding their objective awareness, moving into complete subjective awareness, that they may move into other areas of consciousness and continue upon their choices of becoming.

Now; I may also qualify and express to you that there are areas of consciousness which are occupied by essences which are non-physically focused which are directly involved with physical focuses. Therefore, in accessing these essences, you may also access helpfulness and a tremendous lending of energy.

In accessing essences – the ‘dead’ within transition – you may communicate much, and what you may receive is mischief, for one focus is merely one camera lens in thousands to these individuals within transition. Therefore, it matters not their expression, and many times they may be quite mischievous – not hurtful, but mischievous and playful – which may be interpreted within physical focus as fearful or hurtful, although it is not, but within your belief systems it may hold this interpretation.

Therefore, I shall offer you the suggestion that you may direct your energy and your attention to this area of Regional Area 3 in consciousness, which holds one aspect of transition [and] another aspect of mass consciousness or collective consciousness directly associated with this particular dimension. But also, there is an element of Regional Area 3 that is occupied by those essences which choose to be interactive with, interconnected to, and helpful to individuals occupying Regional Area 1, which is you. Regional Area 1 is your waking reality within this particular dimension.

There are essences that manifest also into focuses in this particular dimension, which are associated and connected with essence within Regional Area 3, which concentrate upon loosening the barriers and the veils between yourselves within your objective awareness within your reality in this dimension and essence within non-physical areas. In this, you may direct your inquiries and your wishes to these essences, which shall be much more helpful than these essences occupying transition, for their focus is different. Their attention is directed differently.” [session 285, June 11, 1998]

TOM: “I have some [questions] I was going to ask you too. I guess more always come up as I’m speaking to you. One was about Regional Areas 3 and 4. Within these areas, my impression is that you can manifest physical type projections, but they don’t seem as solid, so to speak. Is this because of multiple attention areas, or is this a different action?

ELIAS: Within Regional Area 3, you are correct; you may be creating of a type of physical projection. You are also correct that it shall not appear quite as solid. It may at times hold a quality that appears solid, much in the manner that you may be creating within your technology presently and futurely of your holograms. These are also projections, and not necessarily an actual solid form.

You may be creating of these similar types of projections within Regional Area 3. The reason that they are not solid in the manner that you perceive solidity within Regional Area 1 – in your physical focus – is that you are not incorporating physical time.

The solidity of what you term to be matter within your physical dimension is a quality that is incorporated directly being influenced and affected by your creation of physical time. This creates a thickness, so to speak, within your physical dimension, which allows you to manipulate energy in a certain manner, which shall create physical solid objects.

Within Regional Area 3, you may be creating a type of time element, but it is different from the creation of time within this physical dimension. In a manner of speaking, the insertion of time into Regional Area 3 may be likened to an illusion. It is also merely a projection in like manner to a hologram, but is not in actuality a creation of a time framework.

Regional Area 3 does not incorporate a time framework. Therefore, you experience within simultaneous time. In this, you may choose temporarily to be projecting a creation of time, but this is merely a temporary situation. It is an insertion into the natural state of Regional Area 3, very similar to what you view within your physical focus as a motion picture. The motion picture is not your actual interaction within your focus. It is a simulation of your physical focus. In like manner, the insertion of a time framework into Regional Area 3 – to be providing an element of solidity or creating scenery or objects – is a type of simulation of objective imagery.” [session 379, March 28, 1999]

End Notes:

(1) Paul’s note: Seth/Jane Roberts’ term for expressing the concept of God as an action of eternal becoming, inseparable from and contained within Everything, incomprehensible in Its Totality.

This information was first introduced in The Seth Material, Chapter 18, The God Concept – The Creation – The Three Christs, (1970), sessions #426-428, (no date given.)

Elias initially used the term “Creating Universal One And Whole” to describe the same Reality. This was subsequently replaced by “all of consciousness.”

Digests: find out more about Creating Universal One And Whole/all of consciousness.

Digests: find out more about Seth/Jane Roberts.

(2) Paul’s note: a reference to the “straight little sapling” allegory that Elias often refers to when he discusses our need to trust, accept, take full responsibility for only ourselves.

Digests: find out more about the sapling story.

Digests – see also: | aspects of essence; an overview | becoming | belief systems; an overview | bleed-through | choices/agreements | connective tissue of consciousness | Creating Universal One And Whole (All-That-Is) | disengage (“death”) | dimension | dimensional veils | dis-ease and healing | energy deposits (world views) | essence; an overview | essence families; an overview | fear | focus of essence; an overview | forum | imagery | imagination | information | mergence | objective/subjective awareness | probabilities | prophecy | Regional Areas of consciousness; an overview | Regional Area 1 | Regional Area 2 | Regional Area 4 | Rose; an overview | sapling | separation | shift in consciousness | Source Events | time frameworks | transition | trauma of the shift | widening awareness |

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